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OneHungLo 01-24-2019 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 22403199)
back up your numbers ... and please do no show your asshole and shit coming out of it , unless Currently Sober requests it.....

Your original claim :

No wonder you are a Trumptardski ....

30 countries allow it (per your own link). There are 195 countries in the world.

84.6153846154% of countries don't allow it. Better?



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Bladewire 01-24-2019 11:25 AM

Racial insecurity is a mental disorder.

Notice how the racially insecure on GFY are the ones you can't have an honest conversation with?

pimpmaster9000 01-24-2019 11:55 AM

you will never ban this because it will be a great thing to get people to rally against you come next elections...you can ban it until next elections :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

fuck you OP :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

OneHungLo 01-24-2019 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22403338)
you will never ban this because it will be a great thing to get people to rally against you come next elections...you can ban it until next elections :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

fuck you OP :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

cruci is a great litmus test for everything in the US. He hates us and would love nothing more if we were reduced to rubble and ashes.

So whatever he is for, go against.

He hates Trump = You should love Trump.
He loves illegal invaders = You should hate illegal invaders.
He loves islam = You should hate islam.
He loves socialism = You should hate socialism.
He loves open borders = You should hate open borders.

And so on...

shake 01-24-2019 08:11 PM

I think it makes more sense that children aquire the citizenship of their parents rather than the country where they were born. Kind of an old fashioned idea with the cheap travel you can do today.

kane 01-24-2019 08:22 PM

In the past I have said we need to end birthright citizenship at least for a little while or modify it to make it that at least one of your parents is a citizen.

IMO we don't need a wall. The wall won't help very much. If we want to be serious about ending illegal immigration we need to stop birthright citizenship so people won't come here, have babies, then use them to get welfare. And we have to go after businesses that hire illegals. I'm not talking about small places that might accidentally hire an illegal who has a good fake ID, I'm talking about big companies that hire many illegals. The agriculture, construction, and food prep industries in this country operate heavily on the backs of illegals.

If people know they won't be able to get welfare or a job when they come here illegally, they will stop coming here illegally.

OneHungLo 01-24-2019 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 22403627)
In the past I have said we need to end birthright citizenship at least for a little while or modify it to make it that at least one of your parents is a citizen.

IMO we don't need a wall. The wall won't help very much. If we want to be serious about ending illegal immigration we need to stop birthright citizenship so people won't come here, have babies, then use them to get welfare. And we have to go after businesses that hire illegals. I'm not talking about small places that might accidentally hire an illegal who has a good fake ID, I'm talking about big companies that hire many illegals. The agriculture, construction, and food prep industries in this country operate heavily on the backs of illegals.

If people know they won't be able to get welfare or a job when they come here illegally, they will stop coming here illegally.

I agree with everything you said. Only problem when I say it I get called a racist :1orglaugh

The thing with Mexicans is they have quite a few things going against them. A few being the majority of them are low on the IQ spectrum, they do low-skilled jobs that pay shit and when you couple all that with their high birth rates, most if not all end up on some form of government assistance.

I saw some statistics that said 60-70% of Mexican (illegal and legal) immigrants receive some form of welfare whereas only 7% of UK immigrants do. That's a huge disparity you can't ignore.

mce 01-24-2019 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye (Post 22402978)
Fuck no. Foh. It's a constitutional right. If you consider ending any of it, take yo ass to Russia bro. Weirdo.

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Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
The text in bold above is viewed by RIGHTWING legal scholars to preclude birthright citizenship

The problem with that analysis? EVERYONE on US soil is subject to US jurisdiction otherwise local, county, state, or federal authorities can't prosecute and jail you....

The only exception? Accredited diplomats

Indeed, the legilsative record (minutes of congress folk deliberating the amendment) talk about diplomatic consequences...

Paul Markham 01-25-2019 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22403298)
ask a human some time. Maybe you'll get it. Probably not..


Also.. why is it mostly only the unemployable that complain about such things?

So you can't answer my questions, so resort to abuse.

pimpmaster9000 01-25-2019 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22403725)
So you can't answer my questions, so resort to abuse.

its not abuse if somebody states the truth...you are a low skill high school drop out who could not afford to go back to his country but stayed in a cheap one like some anchor husband :thumbsup

NoWhErE 01-25-2019 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22403637)
I agree with everything you said. Only problem when I say it I get called a racist :1orglaugh

The thing with Mexicans is they have quite a few things going against them. A few being the majority of them are low on the IQ spectrum, they do low-skilled jobs that pay shit and when you couple all that with their high birth rates, most if not all end up on some form of government assistance.

I saw some statistics that said 60-70% of Mexican (illegal and legal) immigrants receive some form of welfare whereas only 7% of UK immigrants do. That's a huge disparity you can't ignore.

You are a bigoted racist. Plain and simple.

Deny it all you want. It doesnt change the fact that your way of thinking is a disease caused by ignorance. You are the cancer in today’s society.

kane 01-25-2019 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22403637)
I agree with everything you said. Only problem when I say it I get called a racist :1orglaugh

The thing with Mexicans is they have quite a few things going against them. A few being the majority of them are low on the IQ spectrum, they do low-skilled jobs that pay shit and when you couple all that with their high birth rates, most if not all end up on some form of government assistance.

I saw some statistics that said 60-70% of Mexican (illegal and legal) immigrants receive some form of welfare whereas only 7% of UK immigrants do. That's a huge disparity you can't ignore.

You get called a racist not because you think birthright citizenship should be ended and that law enforcement should go after people who hire illegals. You get called a racist because of the shit you write. Take this post as an example. You complain about being called a racist then immediately after just make the blanket statement that most Mexican people have low IQ's.

King Mark 01-25-2019 12:26 PM

Mexico is so dumb that they didn't let trump trick them into pay... Nevermind.

I already know nothing will change the mind of a racist. However, this is not an attack. I fully believe in every regular American citizens right to be as racist as they want. I would just appreciate it if they were honest about it, however it's also their right to deny it.

OneHungLo 01-25-2019 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 22403793)
You are a bigoted racist. Plain and simple.

Deny it all you want. It doesnt change the fact that your way of thinking is a disease caused by ignorance. You are the cancer in today’s society.

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 22404084)
You get called a racist not because you think birthright citizenship should be ended and that law enforcement should go after people who hire illegals. You get called a racist because of the shit you write. Take this post as an example. You complain about being called a racist then immediately after just make the blanket statement that most Mexican people have low IQ's.

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye (Post 22404099)
Mexico is so dumb that they didn't let trump trick them into pay... Nevermind.

I already know nothing will change the mind of a racist. However, this is not an attack. I fully believe in every regular American citizens right to be as racist as they want. I would just appreciate it if they were honest about it, however it's also their right to deny it.

The average IQ of a Mexican is 88. It's low. And it drops almost 10 basis points when you hit Central America. Their birth rate is 20% higher than Americans. 60-70% of undocumented and legal Mexican Americans access welfare programs


If I said Mexicans are shit, yeah that might be xenophobic. But I dropped facts. So are facts racist? I'm really confused. Help me understand this.

Bladewire 01-25-2019 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22404227)
The average IQ of a Mexican is 88. It's low. And it drops almost 10 basis points when you hit Central America. Their birth rate is 20% higher than Americans. 60-70% of undocumented and legal Mexican Americans access welfare programs


If I said Mexicans are shit, yeah that might be xenophobic. But I dropped facts. So are facts racist? I'm really confused. Help me understand this.

Your shit is always dodgy bullshit.

Anonymous domain registration on that "IQ" site.

That's a French site with an app (App Theory) that they base "IQ" results from.

Not a real IQ test.

Not real IQ results.

OneHungLo 01-25-2019 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22404236)
Your shit is always dodgy bullshit.

Anonymous domain registration on that "IQ" site.

That's a French site with an app (App Theory) that they base "IQ" results from.

Not a real IQ test.

Not real IQ results.

Here. Now what?

King Mark 01-25-2019 04:11 PM

Mexicans do not have an average low iq. Just lower than ours, like Russia... But Russia was able to fool our entire country. Lulz.

OneHungLo 01-25-2019 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye (Post 22404243)
Mexicans do not have an average low iq. Just lower than ours, like Russia... But Russia was able to fool our entire country. Lulz.

Is English your native language? If their average IQ is 88 their average is low. And Russians aren't invading out country. And if they were, 70% of them probably wouldn't be on welfare.

King Mark 01-25-2019 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22404246)
Is English your native language? If their average IQ is 88 their average is low.

It is my native language, however I'm not an IQ number expert. 88 seems aight until I do more research.

Bladewire 01-25-2019 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22404240)
Here. Now what?

Your response to my outing your fake IQ site is to ignore responding to my facts.

Says a lot

King Mark 01-25-2019 04:22 PM

Wiki says 88 too tho.

OneHungLo 01-25-2019 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22404253)
Your response to my outing your fake IQ site is to ignore responding to my facts.

Says a lot

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye (Post 22404254)
Wiki says 88 too tho.

Yeah, I'm just speaking in facts. Every interaction i've had with Mexicans has been positive. I've been to Mexico a dozen times from the west coast to the east and in between. Same with blacks. I grew up with many playing sports. Same thing with PR peeps. Had many friends that were Puerto Rican. But I know that flooding our country full of them will not be good. Facts speak for themselves.

Funny thing is I just rented a unit to a black women (with good credit and a well paying job) and her young son. First thing she said to me are there any other blacks here. I said no and she said good. Take that as you may.

Bladewire 01-25-2019 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye (Post 22404254)
Wiki says 88 too tho.

Race and intelligence | Wikipedia

Bladewire 01-25-2019 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22404261)
Yeah, I'm just speaking in facts.

Your fake minority IQ test site, based on an app, is not fact based on standardized valid IQ tests.

When you have to lie to support your stance you know that you're on the wrong side.

OneHungLo 01-25-2019 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22404266)
Your fake minority IQ test site, based on an app, is not a fact based on standardized valid IQ tests.

When you have to lie to support your stance you know that you're on the wrong side.

Dude I just dropped a peer reviewed study. I can't help it if you ignore facts.

Bladewire 01-25-2019 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22404267)
Dude I just dropped a peer reviewed study. I can't help it if you ignore facts.

You dropped a fake IQ site based on an app in France.

Then ignored the fact you did so after I outed you.

Then drop something else that I haven't looked at because you failed to respond to the fake data yoy pointed me to in the first place.

OneHungLo 01-25-2019 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22404270)
You dropped a fake IQ site based on an app in France.

Then ignored the fact you did so after I outed you.

Then drop something else that I haven't looked at because you failed to respond to the fake data yoy pointed me to in the first place.

You just can't handle the facts. I post facts and you cry because you're now confused. My position you declared racist but once you examine the facts you see them as true and you now hold the same position you criticized me for.

So just Hifive me you damn racist. :pimp

NoWhErE 01-25-2019 06:44 PM

Staright up question for onehunglo:
Are you a racist?

kane 01-25-2019 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22404227)
The average IQ of a Mexican is 88. It's low. And it drops almost 10 basis points when you hit Central America. Their birth rate is 20% higher than Americans. 60-70% of undocumented and legal Mexican Americans access welfare programs


If I said Mexicans are shit, yeah that might be xenophobic. But I dropped facts. So are facts racist? I'm really confused. Help me understand this.

Let's assume the 88 is accurate. That isn't that bad. The average person has an IQ somewhere between 90-110. That means they would fall on the low end of average. Could it be better? Sure, but you make it out like they are a country full of blubbering idiots. Also, the high rate of welfare use compared to UK immigrants likely has less to do with IQ and more with language issues.

Here's an idea to help you sound a little less racist. Don't lump an entire country together and just dismiss them based on some stats you have found. You come off as someone who is obsessed with using stats to prove anyone who is not white is a bad person.

King Mark 01-25-2019 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22404261)
Yeah, I'm just speaking in facts. Every interaction i've had with Mexicans has been positive. I've been to Mexico a dozen times from the west coast to the east and in between. Same with blacks. I grew up with many playing sports. Same thing with PR peeps. Had many friends that were Puerto Rican. But I know that flooding our country full of them will not be good. Facts speak for themselves.

Funny thing is I just rented a unit to a black women (with good credit and a well paying job) and her young son. First thing she said to me are there any other blacks here. I said no and she said good. Take that as you may.

Oppressed people always have worse stats. No matter the race and no matter the stats.

BaldBastard 01-25-2019 08:12 PM

The average North Korean has an higher IQ than 88% Americans

Now I doubt that means fuck all to most Americans, but according to OneHungLo it makes them genetically superior to you.

Bladewire 01-25-2019 08:22 PM





OneHungLo 01-25-2019 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22404346)
The average North Korean has an higher IQ than 88% Americans

Now I doubt that means fuck all to most Americans, but according to OneHungLo it makes them genetically superior to you.

haha not at all what I'm saying. But I bet if they came here they would do just fine..even with a language barrier.

https://i.imgur.com/SpEQ7DD.png

Bladewire 01-25-2019 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22404351)
haha not at all what I'm saying. But I bet if they came here they would do just fine..even with a language barrier.





OneHungLo 01-25-2019 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22404354)




:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Bladewire 01-25-2019 10:26 PM


Paul Markham 01-26-2019 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 22403071)
why not just cut to the chase? Switch your red hats for pointy white hoods and go rally a bit. We all know where this is headed anyways. So why keep beating around the bush?

This has nothing to do with racism, but nice try in trying. :321GFY

It applies to all illegals what ever their race is.

Paul Markham 01-26-2019 02:41 AM

Changing the Constitution isn't impossible. https://www.google.com/search?source...j0.TjdQ-Zz3u8c

In fact the original Constitution was racist. https://www.google.com/search?hl=cs-...71.prohO9dma6w

Modern times need to have laws that fit the 21st Century. For instance most people in the States as illegals should not be given the right to stay by popping out an Anchor Baby.

The question of benefits and taxes paid is interesting. If illegal immigrants receive no welfare they have to get jobs. Jobs that would have gone to Americans, but disloyal American bosses employ them because they work cheaper. Which raises less tax. Even the argument of they do jobs Americans won't do is stupid. Legal immigrants can do those jobs, but they want more money.

Americans want even more money. So think about illegals doing your job and sponsors paying very low commission, are you in favour of that? The sponsors are.

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The best estimates come from research by the Institute of Taxation and Economic Policy, a Washington, DC, think tank, which suggests that about half of undocumented workers in the United States file income tax returns. The most recent IRS data, from 2015, shows that the agency received 4.4 million income tax returns from workers who don’t have Social Security numbers, which includes a large number of undocumented immigrants. That year, they paid $23.6 billion in income taxes.
How much comes from illegal immigrants?

Look here at the jobs illegal immigrants do. Why care about undocumented immigrants? For one thing, they've become vital to key sectors of the US economy Nice one for the employers, sucks if it was your job though. And that's what you have to consider.

NoWhErE 01-26-2019 06:36 AM

Here is the definition of a racist from the dictionary:
a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another.

Doesn’t matter if you try to hide behind “facts”. Your claims are racist. This makes you a racist. Be a man and own up to it

Paul Markham 01-26-2019 06:40 AM

There's a very simple guide line to go by. Not 100% but pretty good for people to observe.

Those who come into a country legally have to pass that countries criteria, those who enter a country illegally don't and probably can't.

So the ones coming in illegally are by definition the worse kind, unable to get into the country legally. They will be the least skilled, criminals, dependants, etc.

The Left and Liberals tell you they should be counted all as one,they should be allowed in, not sent home if they have a baby in the new country. But consider the costs of one child.

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The cost of having a baby isn't cheap — in the United States, at least. The average cost to have a baby in the US, without complications during delivery, is $10,808— which can increase to $30,000 when factoring in care provided before and after pregnancy
In some States it's much higher.

Then add the cost of educating that child.

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There are huge differences between how the U.S. and other countries fund schools. The United States blows away all other budgets, spending about $12,000 per child, according to the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD). However, looking at global math scores, the U.S. average was 481 (out of 600) in 2012, closer to the likes of Russia and Lithuania which spend far less on education, than of top-performing countries like China and South Korea.
So how does one family of three, two parents and one child, pay enough taxes to cover just the costs of birth and education? This is assuming the illegal worker isn't taking a job from the Citizen. And they stop having children at one.

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There were approximately 11.3 million unauthorized immigrants in the U.S. in 2016, roughly unchanged from the prior year but well below the 12.2 million peak in 2007. There were an estimated 8 million unauthorized immigrants in the U.S. civilian workforce in 2016, roughly 5%. The Congressional Budget Office reported in 2007 that "the tax revenues that unauthorized immigrants generate for state and local governments do not offset the total cost of services provided to them" but "in aggregate and over the long term, tax revenues of all types generated by immigrants—both legal and unauthorized—exceed the cost of the services they use." Unauthorized immigrants demand goods and services while an estimated 50 to 75 percent pay taxes. Due to cheaper labor, they contribute to lower prices in the industries where they work, such as agriculture, restaurants, and construction
Do you see how they use clever tactics there to lump legal and illegal? They admit that illegal workers are cheaper, driving down salaries and pushing welfare up.


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