No, that is not the law. Prove it. Show me where it says that. The law has been published, go get it, read it and show me where it says that. It doesn't.

I am so surprised that a gay man, a member of a population that had to fight like hell to get their life de-criminalized, had to fight like hell to get the basic right to exist as they are, would have so little regard for a woman to have the right to control what happens to her body.

This is a post from someone a couple of years ago, on Facebook:

That is what this law is mainly about. Moving abortion from the criminal statutes into the medical realm.

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You're right, that's why the law is pretty vague.

"So the measure will make late-term abortions legal at the discretion of a health-care practitioner based on the viability of the fetus or if the woman's life or health is in jeopardy."

It gives the healthcare provider, which could be a midwife, total discretion.

Yeah I've posted that already. It's about making abortion a states right so abortion won't be illegal when Roe vs Wade is overturned.

I'm a pro choice blue dog Democrat and you're attacking me on this abortion issue as if I was a pro life Trump supporter :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

That is not the only reson. It recognizes that Abortion is a medical procedure and should not be handled by just a criminal statute as it was.

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Yes I know. Now killing a 9 month baby inside you by legal abortion isn't punishable by the penal code, this takes it out of the Roe vs Wade federal jurisdiction.

I will repeat:

I am so surprised that a gay man, a member of a population that had to fight like hell to get their life de-criminalized, had to fight like hell to get the basic right to exist as they are, would have so little regard for a woman to have the right to control what happens to her body.

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Indeed...

"In 1920, Russian Soviet Republic became the first country in the world to allow abortion in all circumstances"

Firstly well done to Bladewire for seeing sense and opposing this, I had expected this to be a celebration thread, so it is a big relief to see it is not.

Secondly, it is time to boycott New York in every way you possibly can, The City of Satan, start today.

What part of me being pro-choice do you not understand?

It's every humans right to control their body.

That doesn't mean I have to like a woman killing a 7 month old baby inside her, or 9 month old baby. Or her right to give birth to a baby she knows is going to be severely retarded.

Being able to do what you like with your body doesn't preclude being responsible for your body.

Fiddy old white guys deciding what a woman can do with her body.

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IT MUST BE HARD HATING TRUMP EVERYDAY WHEN you agree with most, if not all, of his policies.

https://i.imgur.com/O6trcNq.png

You just have to face the facts, Sarettah. Aren't you a little too old to be this liberal?

Sarettah is slightly to the left of libtards.

Suprisingly, onehung seems more like a racist lefty than a righteous righty.

Oh yeah, Omar Hamada is such an un-biased source.

An Alt-Right, Southern Baptist Minister and Doctor isn't going to be one-sided, is he? He is just open minded and honest as can be, eh?

Omar Hamada | Fighting for Faith, Family and Freedom




The fact of the matter is that The Supreme Court ruled in Roe v Wade that you cannot deny a woman an abortion in ANY PART of her pregnancy if her health or life is in danger.

https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-supre...t/410/113.html

This is NOT something new. It has been the law of the land for 45 years.

The change is that now, if a pregnancy becomes non-viable at anytime then the fetus may be removed. That means that women no longer must carry a dead or dying fetus.

But again, react to things that are bullshit and pretend that the world has changed because your masters are telling you so.


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"Midwives" can now perform abortions

I can just see the religious right referring to midwife's as witches :1orglaugh

"except where it is necessary, in appropriate medical judgment, for the preservation of the life or health of the mother."

This phrase gives "midwives" and doctors the discretion to abort a 9 month old if the mother wants to get rid of the baby. No baby should ever be aborted at 9 months old. You're insane. You're liberal judgment has clouded your reasoning.

Yeah, that's insane. Midwives are just RN's with a training certification. They can now decide, at their discretion, if a 9 month baby can be aborted. Sarettah you're OK with this?

Disturbing.


And you know you'll have crazy mothers shopping around for midwives that will do this procedure. Again, call that OBGYN a kook, but he's right - no baby should ever be aborted at 9 moths old. Delivered, yes, aborted, never.

The phrase you qouted has been U.S. Federal Law since 1973. It is not new.

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Midwives were not allowed to perform abortions in 1973, but they are now

Abortion was not accomplished by administration of a pill in 1973 either, but most abortions are done that way now.



btw, have you researched the requirements to be a midwive in New York? The licensing requirements? The education requirements?

It is a whole lot more than saying, "Hey, I think I'll be a midwife."

NYS Midwifery:Laws, Rules & Regulations:Article 140

NYS Midwifery:Laws, Rules & Regulations:Subpart 79-5

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I never said being a midwife was such a low bar.

Being a midwife is a very low bar compared to being a physician.

Yes I read what you put in bold.

Having a relationship with a physician in a facility is not being a physician in a facility.

License Requirements

Any use of the title "Midwife" within New York State requires licensure.

To be licensed as a midwife in New York State you must:

be of good moral character;
be at least 21 years of age; and
meet education and examination requirements.
You must submit an application for licensure and the other forms indicated, along with the appropriate fee, to the Office of the Professions at the address specified on each form. It is your responsibility to follow up with anyone you have asked to send us material.

The specific requirements for licensure are contained in Title 8, Article 140, section 6955 of New York's Education Law and Subpart 79-5 of the Commissioner's Regulations.

You should also read the general licensing information applicable for all professions.

Fees
The fee for licensure is $322.

The fee for a limited permit is $70 (the limited permit fee is not refundable).

https://www.midwifeschooling.com/new-york/

Um that's a big jump to abortions now being done at 9 months. It's sick and if you think people out there won't abort a 9 month old you're nuts.

You control your body

Very simple

When you want to cut your balls off I will disagree and puke, but it's your body, your right.

If you want to cut your eyes out, I'll cry, but your body your right.

If you want to cut your head off, I will weep and pray for you but your body your right.

A man releases his control the moment he gives his sperm to a woman.

Very simple

Bingo. This is it.

This new law does not mean you can have an abortion any time you want during the pregnancy. It means that if the child will not live through the delivery or cannot live outside of the womb, a late term abortion is permittable.

The way the old law worked was that if the child was having issues and would not live, after a certain point you had to carry the child full term, knowing that the baby would die during childbirth AND put the mother at extreme risk.

I am tired of the spin Fox News puts on everything.

I'm on your side here dummy. I was defending your position.