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You all just got theologically trolled . . .

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No, you've just randomly proclaimed yourself "winner" and me an "islamophobe" without any debate or being able to refute anything i've said whatsoever... just as before that you randomly proclaimed yourself "winner" and me a "racist" while failing to explain either.

you are 100% full of shit.

i'm not afraid of islam... i'm just honest with myself about what it is and what it demands of its followers, who actively murders men, women and children in crowded public places and even mosques and which book they use to justify it.. and with regards to that book, I am honest about who was telling the story


you're just a feeble minded asshole who has nothing to say other than "you're racist" and "you're an islamophobe" because you're not smart enough to actually argue a point without getting smashed.

you cannot argue at all against the facts that mohammed was a rapist, a liar, a murderer, a thief, a warlord, a slave merchant and a child rapist. in fact, there are many out there offering substantial rewards if you can refute those facts.

"We're all Gods children! God is all loving and all merciful and all forgiving and all compassionate... oh, speaking of which, I just bought 3 of Gods children at the Medina slave market the other day"

Uh huh......

At least the devout Muslims in Saudi Arabia finally outlawed slavery..... in the 1940s.

Ok I'll help you understand.

I was always anti religious all my life.. Pretty hardcore anti religious...

Then something happened in my life where I needed something to happen that was impossible for me to make happen through my own means...

so I just prayed for it... for a while..

and it happened... coincidence? maybe... But all I know is that I prayed for a very specific thing that was out of my control... and I got it.

so at that point.. I chose to believe.. Not hurting me any to believe..

But it might be hurting you if you don't. :winkwink:

curious , which religion you were born into ? :winkwink:

Muhammad was human. He made MANY mistakes. Quran doesn't say do as Muhmmad did, Quran says do what God says. There is no quranic verse you can point to that say "rape, kill, etc". All you can. Do is point to "he say she say" secondary sources proven in the Islamic world to be full of fraudlent statements and to be approached with caution. Those are called hadiths, and different sects of Islamic has different sets of Hadith collections, etc. They are just stories.

-The official Islamic punishment for rape is death

-Lying is prohibited in islam

-the punishment for stealing in Islam is getting your hand cut off

-you guys equate slavery in Islam to that barbaric shit authorized in Christianity. Reality is, Islamic slavery is the equivalent of mordern prisoners. Every country has prisoners lol. Sauce: https://islamqa.info/en/answers/94840/islam-and-slavery

-as far as being a warlard, what are you? A hippy now?

-as far as the fucking the kids thing, all 3 abrahamic religions allow it. Don't make me post the Bible verses. I'm trying to be civil lol. Difference is Islam says "follow the law of the land you live in". If it's 18 where you live, it is against Islam to break that law. Not for christians and such tho, who make up the vast majority of child molesters on the planet.

...etc, etc.

Just admit, you're an islamophobe. BTW, it is Haram for me to deal with pork (squealers) so, I ask Allah for forgiveness and I'm out :-)

all religions are "just stories" you brainless twit. You are aware that the books were written by men right? God for some reason didn't bother to create a publishing house and just left it all up to illiterate, uneducated goat herders to figure out.

Strange way to "spread a message" of such vital importance... 14 to 30 centuries later 3 Abrahamic religions are still trying. God created the earth in 7 days but couldn't send a simple message to more than one person at a time, more than a dozen times in 1400-3000 years. Maybe God is just shy? But then again, he doesn't mind burning entire cities to the ground or killing every man woman and child in a city to make a point. So many odd contradictions.... then punishing those who never heard the message to begin with.

in Islam, both the Quran and "these stories" are used to justify mass murder, killing innocent women and children, slave trades, sex slaves, child brides, pedophilia, lying and cheating etc etc etc.

And not that it matters because you're just going to talk in circles... I don't defend any religion and their heinous past. I don't defend Christianity. That's all you and the typical irrelevant "whataboutism" response which is all you're left with.
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What one religion did has absolutely nothing to do with excusing and summarily dismissing the obviously heinous acts of another.

Just the fact that Islam could condone slavery and modern Muslims dismiss it cause "everyone was doing it" should be a red light to any person with common sense. At least Christianity had the fucking sense to create a new "messiah" and an updated message which corrected a lot of this stupidity and obvious logical contradictions. Islam came along and doubled down on the fire and brimstone, eye for an eye, God is a vengeful God ,... based on "revelations" which mostly served to enrich mohammed and his inner circle.

For anybody truely interested in the Quran tho ,whether interested in real Islam or just want to actually know what they're talking about when debating against a Muslim, here's some cool shit you'll find out:

-the Quran accurately describes the speed of light

-accurately describes the blurred vision and nausia of space travel

-accurately describes the missing pieces of the Bible only recently discovered

-accurately describes the known scientific age of the universe

-accurately describes human embryos and how they form

-accurately describes the different parts of the human brain and their function

-accurately describes evolution, what the sun is made of, atoms, plantary orbits, tectonic plates, etc etc etc.... I can go on forever.

This is 1400 years ago. What islamophobes called Muslims crazy for, all turned out to be scientifically proven lol.

That's something to think about.

To help us give you a better answer, what is your exact race/ethnicity so we can get a better understanding of what angle your are coming from for this thread.

Race/Ethnicity Example - Italian, french, German, Chinese, Israeli, Spanish, British - by descent

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Roman Catholic.

I personally am religious because I am a god of my own reality you feel me

Thoughts you project, manifest into reality because humans can bend spoons and don't even realize it.

Agreed. So why do you want more of these people to mix in our community? After all you so multiculturalism works.



I saked if Buddhists are currently killing people in Myanmar. You then troll us with great reasons why they are killing. Are you denying the fact I gave or givingus the reasons and agreeing with me?

https://www.google.com/search?ei=t7J...iz.BO1xCnSIaZk

This will show my original statement is correct.

I prefer to read the Quran for my views on what it says.

Clearly the views of primitive Man.

Also this is interesting.

So why laws on blasphemy because people reach different conclusions to Muslims?

Why did it take so many tries for an omnipotent being to create Homo Sapiens?

Why were Homo Sapiens created so long after the creation of the Earth, when dinosaurs evolved into birds, sharks, crocodiles and other creatures have been on Earth for 100s of millions years?

https://www.islamicity.org/8028/the-...lahs-creation/

""...(Such is) the artistry of Allah, Who disposes of all things in perfect order."

Evolution proves that perfect order is not the way evolution works.

pauls ability to learn anything is demonstrated by his photography...dude failed at pressing a button :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

paul should open a youtube channel for entertainment..."1 minute alzheimers expert on any subject"...you give him a complex subject he knows shit about (any subject really) and he googles for an answer and gets confused :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

paul has the magic ability to skip decades of research other scholars spend on a specific subject and just "google it" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Explain why god allowed so many Humans to exist before exposing himself?



And why he needed so many tries at getting it right.







Surely this thows out the window the idea of creation by ""...(Such is) the artistry of Allah, Who disposes of all things in perfect order." And I've only included the Humanoid species, the examples across the animal kingdom are so many Evolution can't be denied.

Why are you even here Paul? What purpose do you serve on this forum?

So an imperfect man reveals the perfect text? Doesn't that send up red flags to you?

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/7233...-crime-of-rape Gives rapist excuses for raping victims. Being out alone, at home, not dressing properly.

Why is a married rapist not given the same punishment as an unmarried one.

Prisoners a=have committed a crime. Slaves haven't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milita...er_of_Muhammad

So why do so many Muslims in the West want to be ruled by Sharia law?

Why are so many Muslims raping under age girls in Britain? Saying the Quran isn't for bending and having so many failings shows you're wrong.

why are so many catholic priests butt fucking young boys?

why are jewish rabbies biting babies dicks off?

*tons of random bullshit links nobody will ever click on*

What are angels? This again shows you're wrong about the Quran not being changed as knowledge grows.

https://classroom.synonym.com/origin...uran-6278.html This is 100% wrong. Humanoids existed before and alongside Homo Sapiens.

This doesn't say how old the Earth and universe is. It says they didn't know.

Scientifically proven isn't not knowing. The Quran isn't a book scientists go to for facts.

i will really never understand why a man in your age have never learned in his life that you will never get any answer if you see things from your point of view.

one of the most important gifts that evolution has given man is empathy.

without empathy we would not exist today on this planet because we would have exterminated each other long ago.

empathy is the instrument that makes us understand things that are strange to us. empathy makes us help each other and it is this apparent selflessness that ultimately brings us the greatest progress.

empathy is not characterized by the fact that an empathetic person understands another empathetic person but it does not require any counter-empathy at all and thus creates it.

instead of thinking about sense and nonsense of religions you should try to deal with them and ask yourself the question why.
then you would also find out that religion also has logical and helpful aspects that have secured our survival in the millennia of human history.

and yes there are still many uneducated people today (you are one of them) who can be impressed with divine and supernatural things and can even be made to think.

i will tell you an example that impressed me deeply and changed my opinion about freedom, equality and democracy in a certain way.

as you know i live a large part of my time in thailand and like every country thailand has its sunny sides and its shady sides.
for me, one of these shadow sides was the garbage, the air pollution and the desiinterest of the population in these issues. thais don't sit down with it because they don't think they can change anything anyway.

10 years ago the environmental movement here consisted of a handful of activists who didn't listen.
they tried to make people realize that it's better to use public transport or bicycles instead of smog in bangkok by standing in traffic jams for hours - without any result.

then a smart guy a few years ago came up with the idea of doing the "bike for dad" campaign, which simply consisted of the announcement that you should honour the king by doing without motorcycles and cars for a day and riding your bike instead.

shortly after the call there were no more bicycles to buy in thailand. you had to order them from china, india and europe and on the "bike for dad"-day you couldn't see a car on the streets of banok. only millions of thais on bicycles with yellow t-shirts waving laughing at each other.

since that day thailand has changed.
today no one throws a plastic bottle on the floor anymore - you collect it and win crude oil again.
the supermarkets no longer give plastic bags for free - air measurement systems are installed, the import of plastic waste from europe and the USA has been stopped, electric cars are not only subsidised here - they are built here.
solar systems that were almost impossible to find before are increasingly being seen on all new buildings, and people are talking about the environmental problems they have been turning a blind eye to for many years.

and all this because of a cult to a king, which the thais follow unconditionally.

why do you think eat muslim no pork?
why do you think they have to pray 5 times a day and wash their hands and feet every time?
which hygienic problem of slaughtering has caused schaechten and halal?

you should ask yourself why, then many things would not make you so angry anymore just because you don't understand.

maybe you would come to a point where you recognize the problem by its true root - because that means education. and we created this problem.

first of all british, french, israelis, spanish and americans have to grab their noses before they blame others.
we now pay the bill that has accumulated in hundreds of years.

Can someone go to Brno and take Paul's keyboard?

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Well played :)

You quote my response to Dead Eye, which is about Islam. Let others start quoting about Judaism, Christianity etc, for my responses to those religions.

As for we now pay the bill, I will use Dead Eyes answer and say the bad people weren't me.

I see you've dropped the nonsense about Buddhists killing people.

the point is that you know a fuck about ANY religion.
you just copy and paste phrases from your stupid sources.

did you ever read the quaran, the thoram the kaballa, the bible, the sutras, mahavastu or the scripts from the dalai lama?

i did and i am NOT religious !

but i found in each one something what i can use for my life.

so let us collect some really bad things brits have done and let´s agree that all of them are exactly like this.

i did not - i explained you that malaysians are killing rohingya. but as so many things you don´t understand that either.

brains that don't have room for complex things tend to generalize.
you can see this in many animal species and unfortunately also in many people.

Thereare many things in the bible I use. But I don't need the bible to make me abetter person.



No one has ever claimed the Brits are the Nationof Peace.



What religion are those Malaysians and why are they allowed to travel to Myanmar to kill people?

Or are you just trolling by moving the goal posts?

It doesn't matter when muzzies get exterminated by Buddhists, evicted by zionists from their own homes, invaded because of lies, etc.

The only thing that matters is when muzzies fight back. How dare they.

Paul has probably never heard of the rohingja, which is odd because unlike the Jewish Holocaust, this one is happening now and theres plenty of undisputable footage lol.

Them damn muzzies tho.

but as you know it is from the bible it seems you know at least some parts of it.
and that means that you have been religious sometime in the past.

than let´s jail them to their island.
all of them - no matter if they are good or bad.



you know that typing mistakes can happen?

but that doe not change the fact that here are not religions against religions.
here. ethnic cleansing is taking place here. neither in the name of buddha nor in the name of allah.

Maybe, but you certainly need something.

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What he needed was better oral hygeine. Too late now tho.

lol the crazy Mormon and scientology shit seems more believable then the bible or the Quran. Fucking sheep.

Israel evicting Muslims is a crime against humanity, so is Muslims killing Muslims, Jews and Christians, Germans killing millions, Turks killing Armenians, Buddhists killing Muslims, Serbian killing Muslims, Africans killing Africans, Americans killing Indians, etc. The list is very long. History can't be changed but we can learn from it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._by_death_toll

But we don't. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genoci...Eastern_Europe

Today people are trying to kill their neighbours, some because of their religion.

Never been religious, but I needed to know why. So studied a lot.

Please reread my statement. Or remove your head from your ass. I stated Buddhists are currently guilty of killing Muslims. You immediately found ways to deny facts. By bringing up crap https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genoci...istory#Myanmar

https://www.google.com/search?ei=FPl...iz.lR41ELzpTV8 Maybe it would improve your knowledge if you used Google prior to posting. After all cutting and pasting requires reading first. :thumbsup

Scientology is proof that starting a religion is something anyone with a bit of knowledge can do.



https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...of+scientology There's more crap about them here. Scientology was started to make money and control people. So no different from other religions.

Mormonism is also proven to be crap. When the inventor of a "religion" makes a firm claim that doesn't happen. You know someone is lying.

https://centerforinquiry.org/blog/di...dict_doomsday/

The problem for so many religions is they all make the same mistake.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...alyptic_events

You see a predictable theme here. Threatening the apocalypse is imminent if the plebs don't do as the leaders tell them. They get burned in Hell. But the sheep get to live in heaven. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End_time The reality is neither are true, we are just more developed animals who in a very short time have gone from scratching an existence to sending Man into space and inventing bombs that would destroy the Earth. And reproducing at a rate that is destroying the planet.

Its an interesting question.....but:

Science cannot yet explain it . . . . . . . therefore God.

You might as well say "Science cannot yet explain it . . . . . . therefore Aliens.

Inserting "God" wherever science cannot explain something is very weak.

It does not take a genius to know that.

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