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Paul Markham 02-03-2019 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye (Post 22409435)
Muhammad was human. He made MANY mistakes. Quran doesn't say do as Muhmmad did, Quran says do what God says. There is no quranic verse you can point to that say "rape, kill, etc". All you can. Do is point to "he say she say" secondary sources proven in the Islamic world to be full of fraudlent statements and to be approached with caution. Those are called hadiths, and different sects of Islamic has different sets of Hadith collections, etc. They are just stories.

So an imperfect man reveals the perfect text? Doesn't that send up red flags to you?

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/7233...-crime-of-rape Gives rapist excuses for raping victims. Being out alone, at home, not dressing properly.

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The punishment for rape in Islam is same as the punishment for zina, which is stoning if the perpetrator is married, and one hundred lashes and banishment for one year if he is not married.
Why is a married rapist not given the same punishment as an unmarried one.

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-you guys equate slavery in Islam to that barbaric shit authorized in Christianity. Reality is, Islamic slavery is the equivalent of mordern prisoners. Every country has prisoners lol. Sauce: https://islamqa.info/en/answers/94840/islam-and-slavery
Prisoners a=have committed a crime. Slaves haven't.

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-as far as being a warlard, what are you? A hippy now?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milita...er_of_Muhammad

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The military career of Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, lasted for the final ten years of his life, from 622 to 632. After he and his small fellowship were pushed out of the holy trading town of Mecca, controlled by the powerful Quraish tribe, he started an insurgency harassing Meccan caravans.
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-as far as the fucking the kids thing, all 3 abrahamic religions allow it. Don't make me post the Bible verses. I'm trying to be civil lol. Difference is Islam says "follow the law of the land you live in". If it's 18 where you live, it is against Islam to break that law. Not for christians and such tho, who make up the vast majority of child molesters on the planet.
So why do so many Muslims in the West want to be ruled by Sharia law?

Why are so many Muslims raping under age girls in Britain? Saying the Quran isn't for bending and having so many failings shows you're wrong.

pimpmaster9000 02-03-2019 03:27 AM

why are so many catholic priests butt fucking young boys?

why are jewish rabbies biting babies dicks off?

*tons of random bullshit links nobody will ever click on*

Paul Markham 02-03-2019 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye (Post 22409448)
For anybody truely interested in the Quran tho ,whether interested in real Islam or just want to actually know what they're talking about when debating against a Muslim, here's some cool shit you'll find out:

-the Quran accurately describes the speed of light

-accurately describes the blurred vision and nausia of space travel

-accurately describes the missing pieces of the Bible only recently discovered

-accurately describes the known scientific age of the universe

-accurately describes human embryos and how they form

-accurately describes the different parts of the human brain and their function

-accurately describes evolution, what the sun is made of, atoms, plantary orbits, tectonic plates, etc etc etc.... I can go on forever.

This is 1400 years ago. What islamophobes called Muslims crazy for, all turned out to be scientifically proven lol.

That's something to think about.

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Speed of Light = 12000 Lunar Orbits/Earth Day

1400 years ago it was stated in the Quran (Koran, the book of Islam) that angels travel in one day the same distance that the moon travels in 1000 lunar years, that is, 12000 Lunar Orbits / Earth Day. When the geocentric frame is inertial 12000 Lunar Orbits / Earth Day turned out to be the known speed of light!
What are angels? This again shows you're wrong about the Quran not being changed as knowledge grows.

https://classroom.synonym.com/origin...uran-6278.html This is 100% wrong. Humanoids existed before and alongside Homo Sapiens.

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The Quran also states that human life on Earth began with Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden, a belief shared with the Christian and Jewish faiths. In Islam, every act of creation – whether that of the universe as a whole or human life – is considered a confirmation of the power of Allah
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Islam https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth#Islam

Islam, as per the Quran says that the Earth was created in 6 days by Allah,[10]. However it should be noted here that the word yaom which is literally translated as "days" have different spans of time, as in time is not of a fixed unit but that it stretches and compresses as Allah wills.[11]. This is evident when in one verse a "day" is equated to "fifty thousand years"[12] while in another verse a "day" is "one thousand years" [13] Hence, Muslims in general believe that the word "yaom" indicates a long period of time, the measure of which is unknown,[14]. Many people wrongly assume that Islam refers to the same story as Christianity does, that earth is 6000 years old. However, Muslims do not believe that the Earth is 6,000 years old. Islam does not specify how long it has been since the creation of the Earth [15] therefore the age of the Earth is left ambiguous.
This doesn't say how old the Earth and universe is. It says they didn't know.

Scientifically proven isn't not knowing. The Quran isn't a book scientists go to for facts.

thommy 02-03-2019 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22409630)
So an imperfect man reveals the perfect text? Doesn't that send up red flags to you?

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/7233...-crime-of-rape Gives rapist excuses for raping victims. Being out alone, at home, not dressing properly.

Why is a married rapist not given the same punishment as an unmarried one.

Prisoners a=have committed a crime. Slaves haven't.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milita...er_of_Muhammad





So why do so many Muslims in the West want to be ruled by Sharia law?

Why are so many Muslims raping under age girls in Britain? Saying the Quran isn't for bending and having so many failings shows you're wrong.

i will really never understand why a man in your age have never learned in his life that you will never get any answer if you see things from your point of view.

one of the most important gifts that evolution has given man is empathy.

without empathy we would not exist today on this planet because we would have exterminated each other long ago.

empathy is the instrument that makes us understand things that are strange to us. empathy makes us help each other and it is this apparent selflessness that ultimately brings us the greatest progress.

empathy is not characterized by the fact that an empathetic person understands another empathetic person but it does not require any counter-empathy at all and thus creates it.

instead of thinking about sense and nonsense of religions you should try to deal with them and ask yourself the question why.
then you would also find out that religion also has logical and helpful aspects that have secured our survival in the millennia of human history.

and yes there are still many uneducated people today (you are one of them) who can be impressed with divine and supernatural things and can even be made to think.

i will tell you an example that impressed me deeply and changed my opinion about freedom, equality and democracy in a certain way.

as you know i live a large part of my time in thailand and like every country thailand has its sunny sides and its shady sides.
for me, one of these shadow sides was the garbage, the air pollution and the desiinterest of the population in these issues. thais don't sit down with it because they don't think they can change anything anyway.

10 years ago the environmental movement here consisted of a handful of activists who didn't listen.
they tried to make people realize that it's better to use public transport or bicycles instead of smog in bangkok by standing in traffic jams for hours - without any result.

then a smart guy a few years ago came up with the idea of doing the "bike for dad" campaign, which simply consisted of the announcement that you should honour the king by doing without motorcycles and cars for a day and riding your bike instead.

shortly after the call there were no more bicycles to buy in thailand. you had to order them from china, india and europe and on the "bike for dad"-day you couldn't see a car on the streets of banok. only millions of thais on bicycles with yellow t-shirts waving laughing at each other.

since that day thailand has changed.
today no one throws a plastic bottle on the floor anymore - you collect it and win crude oil again.
the supermarkets no longer give plastic bags for free - air measurement systems are installed, the import of plastic waste from europe and the USA has been stopped, electric cars are not only subsidised here - they are built here.
solar systems that were almost impossible to find before are increasingly being seen on all new buildings, and people are talking about the environmental problems they have been turning a blind eye to for many years.

and all this because of a cult to a king, which the thais follow unconditionally.

why do you think eat muslim no pork?
why do you think they have to pray 5 times a day and wash their hands and feet every time?
which hygienic problem of slaughtering has caused schaechten and halal?

you should ask yourself why, then many things would not make you so angry anymore just because you don't understand.

maybe you would come to a point where you recognize the problem by its true root - because that means education. and we created this problem.

first of all british, french, israelis, spanish and americans have to grab their noses before they blame others.
we now pay the bill that has accumulated in hundreds of years.

AdultKing 02-03-2019 04:03 AM

Can someone go to Brno and take Paul's keyboard?

MaDalton 02-03-2019 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 22409652)
Can someone go to Brno and take Paul's keyboard?

https://media1.tenor.com/images/6c11...itemid=5223560

AdultKing 02-03-2019 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22409681)

:1orglaugh

Well played :)

Paul Markham 02-03-2019 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22409650)
i will really never understand why a man in your age have never learned in his life that you will never get any answer if you see things from your point of view.

one of the most important gifts that evolution has given man is empathy.

without empathy we would not exist today on this planet because we would have exterminated each other long ago.

empathy is the instrument that makes us understand things that are strange to us. empathy makes us help each other and it is this apparent selflessness that ultimately brings us the greatest progress.

empathy is not characterized by the fact that an empathetic person understands another empathetic person but it does not require any counter-empathy at all and thus creates it.

instead of thinking about sense and nonsense of religions you should try to deal with them and ask yourself the question why.
then you would also find out that religion also has logical and helpful aspects that have secured our survival in the millennia of human history.

and yes there are still many uneducated people today (you are one of them) who can be impressed with divine and supernatural things and can even be made to think.

i will tell you an example that impressed me deeply and changed my opinion about freedom, equality and democracy in a certain way.

as you know i live a large part of my time in thailand and like every country thailand has its sunny sides and its shady sides.
for me, one of these shadow sides was the garbage, the air pollution and the desiinterest of the population in these issues. thais don't sit down with it because they don't think they can change anything anyway.

10 years ago the environmental movement here consisted of a handful of activists who didn't listen.
they tried to make people realize that it's better to use public transport or bicycles instead of smog in bangkok by standing in traffic jams for hours - without any result.

then a smart guy a few years ago came up with the idea of doing the "bike for dad" campaign, which simply consisted of the announcement that you should honour the king by doing without motorcycles and cars for a day and riding your bike instead.

shortly after the call there were no more bicycles to buy in thailand. you had to order them from china, india and europe and on the "bike for dad"-day you couldn't see a car on the streets of banok. only millions of thais on bicycles with yellow t-shirts waving laughing at each other.

since that day thailand has changed.
today no one throws a plastic bottle on the floor anymore - you collect it and win crude oil again.
the supermarkets no longer give plastic bags for free - air measurement systems are installed, the import of plastic waste from europe and the USA has been stopped, electric cars are not only subsidised here - they are built here.
solar systems that were almost impossible to find before are increasingly being seen on all new buildings, and people are talking about the environmental problems they have been turning a blind eye to for many years.

and all this because of a cult to a king, which the thais follow unconditionally.

why do you think eat muslim no pork?
why do you think they have to pray 5 times a day and wash their hands and feet every time?
which hygienic problem of slaughtering has caused schaechten and halal?

you should ask yourself why, then many things would not make you so angry anymore just because you don't understand.

maybe you would come to a point where you recognize the problem by its true root - because that means education. and we created this problem.

first of all british, french, israelis, spanish and americans have to grab their noses before they blame others.
we now pay the bill that has accumulated in hundreds of years.

You quote my response to Dead Eye, which is about Islam. Let others start quoting about Judaism, Christianity etc, for my responses to those religions.

As for we now pay the bill, I will use Dead Eyes answer and say the bad people weren't me.

I see you've dropped the nonsense about Buddhists killing people.

thommy 02-03-2019 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22409696)
You quote my response to Dead Eye, which is about Islam. Let others start quoting about Judaism, Christianity etc, for my responses to those religions.

the point is that you know a fuck about ANY religion.
you just copy and paste phrases from your stupid sources.

did you ever read the quaran, the thoram the kaballa, the bible, the sutras, mahavastu or the scripts from the dalai lama?

i did and i am NOT religious !

but i found in each one something what i can use for my life.

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As for we now pay the bill, I will use Dead Eyes answer and say the bad people weren't me.
so let us collect some really bad things brits have done and letīs agree that all of them are exactly like this.

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I see you've dropped the nonsense about Buddhists killing people.
i did not - i explained you that malaysians are killing rohingya. but as so many things you donīt understand that either.

brains that don't have room for complex things tend to generalize.
you can see this in many animal species and unfortunately also in many people.

Paul Markham 02-03-2019 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22409725)
the point is that you know a fuck about ANY religion.
you just copy and paste phrases from your stupid sources.

did you ever read the quaran, the thoram the kaballa, the bible, the sutras, mahavastu or the scripts from the dalai lama?

i did and i am NOT religious !

but i found in each one something what i can use for my life.

Thereare many things in the bible I use. But I don't need the bible to make me abetter person.



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so let us collect some really bad things brits have done and letīs agree that all of them are exactly like this.
No one has ever claimed the Brits are the Nationof Peace.



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i did not - i explained you that malaysians are killing rohingya. but as so many things you donīt understand that either.

brains that don't have room for complex things tend to generalize.
you can see this in many animal species and unfortunately also in many people.
What religion are those Malaysians and why are they allowed to travel to Myanmar to kill people?

Or are you just trolling by moving the goal posts?

King Mark 02-03-2019 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22409725)
the point is that you know a fuck about ANY religion.
you just copy and paste phrases from your stupid sources.

did you ever read the quaran, the thoram the kaballa, the bible, the sutras, mahavastu or the scripts from the dalai lama?

i did and i am NOT religious !

but i found in each one something what i can use for my life.



so let us collect some really bad things brits have done and letīs agree that all of them are exactly like this.



i did not - i explained you that malaysians are killing rohingya. but as so many things you donīt understand that either.

brains that don't have room for complex things tend to generalize.
you can see this in many animal species and unfortunately also in many people.

It doesn't matter when muzzies get exterminated by Buddhists, evicted by zionists from their own homes, invaded because of lies, etc.

The only thing that matters is when muzzies fight back. How dare they.

Paul has probably never heard of the rohingja, which is odd because unlike the Jewish Holocaust, this one is happening now and theres plenty of undisputable footage lol.

Them damn muzzies tho.

thommy 02-03-2019 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22409780)
Thereare many things in the bible I use. But I don't need the bible to make me abetter person.

but as you know it is from the bible it seems you know at least some parts of it.
and that means that you have been religious sometime in the past.

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No one has ever claimed the Brits are the Nationof Peace.
than letīs jail them to their island.
all of them - no matter if they are good or bad.



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What religion are those Malaysians and why are they allowed to travel to Myanmar to kill people?

Or are you just trolling by moving the goal posts?
you know that typing mistakes can happen?

but that doe not change the fact that here are not religions against religions.
here. ethnic cleansing is taking place here. neither in the name of buddha nor in the name of allah.

newB 02-03-2019 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22409780)
I don't need the bible to make me abetter person.

Maybe, but you certainly need something.

Bladewire 02-03-2019 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by newB (Post 22409812)
Maybe, but you certainly need something.

BOOM! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

King Mark 02-03-2019 11:21 AM

What he needed was better oral hygeine. Too late now tho.

huey 02-03-2019 08:46 PM

lol the crazy Mormon and scientology shit seems more believable then the bible or the Quran. Fucking sheep.

Paul Markham 02-04-2019 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye (Post 22409782)
It doesn't matter when muzzies get exterminated by Buddhists, evicted by zionists from their own homes, invaded because of lies, etc.

The only thing that matters is when muzzies fight back. How dare they.

Paul has probably never heard of the rohingja, which is odd because unlike the Jewish Holocaust, this one is happening now and theres plenty of undisputable footage lol.

Them damn muzzies tho.

Israel evicting Muslims is a crime against humanity, so is Muslims killing Muslims, Jews and Christians, Germans killing millions, Turks killing Armenians, Buddhists killing Muslims, Serbian killing Muslims, Africans killing Africans, Americans killing Indians, etc. The list is very long. History can't be changed but we can learn from it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._by_death_toll

But we don't. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genoci...Eastern_Europe

Today people are trying to kill their neighbours, some because of their religion.

Paul Markham 02-04-2019 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22409803)
but as you know it is from the bible it seems you know at least some parts of it.
and that means that you have been religious sometime in the past.

Never been religious, but I needed to know why. So studied a lot.

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you know that typing mistakes can happen?

but that doe not change the fact that here are not religions against religions.
here. ethnic cleansing is taking place here. neither in the name of buddha nor in the name of allah.
Please reread my statement. Or remove your head from your ass. I stated Buddhists are currently guilty of killing Muslims. You immediately found ways to deny facts. By bringing up crap https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genoci...istory#Myanmar

https://www.google.com/search?ei=FPl...iz.lR41ELzpTV8 Maybe it would improve your knowledge if you used Google prior to posting. After all cutting and pasting requires reading first. :thumbsup

Paul Markham 02-04-2019 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by huey (Post 22410017)
lol the crazy Mormon and scientology shit seems more believable then the bible or the Quran. Fucking sheep.

Scientology is proof that starting a religion is something anyone with a bit of knowledge can do.



https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...of+scientology There's more crap about them here. Scientology was started to make money and control people. So no different from other religions.

Mormonism is also proven to be crap. When the inventor of a "religion" makes a firm claim that doesn't happen. You know someone is lying.

https://centerforinquiry.org/blog/di...dict_doomsday/

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The offending passage is one sentence long: “Joseph Smith, founder of the Mormon church, called a meeting of his church leaders in February 1835 to tell them that he had spoken to God recently, and during their conversation he learned that Jesus would return within the next 56 years, after which the End Times would begin promptly.”

My source for this is Doctrine and Covenants 130:14-17, written by Joseph Smith:
The problem for so many religions is they all make the same mistake.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...alyptic_events

You see a predictable theme here. Threatening the apocalypse is imminent if the plebs don't do as the leaders tell them. They get burned in Hell. But the sheep get to live in heaven. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End_time The reality is neither are true, we are just more developed animals who in a very short time have gone from scratching an existence to sending Man into space and inventing bombs that would destroy the Earth. And reproducing at a rate that is destroying the planet.

NewNick 02-04-2019 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye (Post 22408912)
I believe you guys have the right to feel however you want to feel. I respect it. But can one of you geniuses explain, scientifically, how things exist? From nothing?

Its an interesting question.....but:

Science cannot yet explain it . . . . . . . therefore God.

You might as well say "Science cannot yet explain it . . . . . . therefore Aliens.

Inserting "God" wherever science cannot explain something is very weak.

It does not take a genius to know that.

:thumbsup


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