Never will happen

As you didn't think about I will explain.

Once you give the rights to private owners to over ride the government on one subject you give it to them on all subjects. Stopping roads, bridges, houses, etc being built. You can't only give a pass for those opposed to a Wall.

Of course I understand the downside. If the promises are too far fetched then he won't get elected.

The emergency has been created by the Democrats wanting to stop Trump by all means. Much like the Republicans wanting to stop Obama by all means. Confrontational politics no longer works when confrontation is the go to point on all points.

Dems don't want to stop trump - they want to stop his ridiculous plans.

Taking alot of money they don't have, for an emergency that doesn't exist, to build a wall that won't work, is just fucking insane. Trump has zero basis for his fears and thanks to all the new lawsuits, he will have to provide paperwork that does not exist, to prove that his fear of the brown man is justified.

I'd like to say that this is by far the stupidest thing Trump has ever done, but I'm not sure sure. I'll just toss it on the pile.

Crockett, you are clueless beyond belief !! A bump stock effectively turns a semi auto into a full auto. And no, gun nutters were NOT outraged. No one gives a shot about bump stocks because they greatly reduce accuracy. They are seen as a novelty, basically a joke. Like everything you post. :1orglaugh

Walls work so your post is pointless. Unless you want them to work 100% and even stop those who overstay a Visa, those who tunnel and those who come by boat.

The savings are huge. Reducing the working population will force employers to offer more, take the long term unemployed off welfare and add more to the tax revenues.

Why bring race into the debate?

Did republicans erase the word DEFICIT from their dictionnary ... and replace it by KINGDOM ?

If you look at my post you will see that i said Military STYLE weapons and by that i mean AR-15s and similar readily available rifles that are quite cheap compared to the M16s and M4s

^^ Well said, Paul. It's simple economics, logic, and common sense. The border fence will pay for itself by reducing the massive cost of non-citizens here illegally. The leftists are race-baiting and stirring division.

The Cost of a Border Wall vs. the Cost of Illegal Immigration

Based on the NAS data, illegal border-crossers create an average fiscal burden of approximately $74,722 during their lifetimes, excluding any costs for their U.S.-born children. If a border wall stopped between 160,000 and 200,000 illegal crossers — 9 to 12 percent of those expected to successfully cross in the next decade — the fiscal savings would equal the $12 to $15 billion cost of the wall.

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The truth sounds like hate to those who hate the truth :2 cents:

That's a great question but you forget - this is GFY - home of the Trump / Gun / Nutterz. Common sense ideas like that won't penetrate their freedoms bubble.

But then again, the NRA has been exposed as the shit that they are, and are reportedly going broke. So maybe without those clowns smelling up the halls of the US congress something can finally get done.

^^ Gun grabbing commies please F off! This is America, Jack! :flagface

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...26&oe=5CEBFA4E

And you clowns actually like Pelosi, Schumer, & Schiff?? :1orglaugh

Illegal immigration has been down since before Trump took office. Right wings morons are amplifying specific events to blow it out of proportion.

Example the caravan.. They do this every year its nothing new. No they never all get in. They only ever let a small amount of these people in on asylum requests.

Meanwhile people like you who dont know actual facts see only what the right wing media wants you to see.

The facts are there is no illegal immigration crisis. Yes there are illegals and always will be but it's not anything of a crisis..

You are brainwashed by people using your ignorance of the subject for their political gain.

The worse part is the very people brainwashing you and using you also use illegals on their work force. Yet you accept what they say hook line and sinker because you are uninformed but think you know it all..

News flash, you dont even live here..

Crockette, please look at these search results and then tell us there is no border crisis:

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=illegal+al...es&t=h_&ia=web

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=illegal+al...rs&t=h_&ia=web

Fact is it's YOU Crockett who is falling for the left-wing media's narrative, and you rabidly defend it even though it's based on lies.

duckduckgo ..... really !!!!!!

Does it hurt to be as stupid as you ??????

What's wrong with Duckduckgo? Are they fabricating search results? You seem unhinged. Consider seeking help for your TDS.

It only takes a few seconds to find video of all the major players in the Democrat Party talking about how bad illegal immigration is for the working men and women of the country.
ALL of the Democrats.

Remember? Before Trump, the Democrats were the champions of the working people and the unions.

Not anymore..

So can you guaranty illegal immigration will continue to fall?

Your definition of what's not a crisis doesn't mean it's right.

It's easy to find the facts on the true costs of illegal immigration.

Just one statistic.

https://thehill.com/opinion/immigrat...criminal-alien

Now add the cost of catching the criminals, sentencing them and the harm they do to ordinary citizens.

https://eu.azcentral.com/story/news/...omy/691997002/ Can onlyargue the cost isn't as high as some think. The key words are "as high". So is it 10% lower 20% lower?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...ca-not-n950981 Another stupid article claiming it's "Not nearly as much as Trump claims."

The worse part is the very people brainwashing you and using you also use illegals on their work force. Yet you accept what they say hook line and sinker because you are uninformed but think you know it all. Even when presented with facts your brain washed thinking refuses to accept it. Now come back with facts.

what an idiotic statement.

so you agree that the problem is decreasing since more than 2 decades but you also think that a decreasing problem is a reason for a national emergency ?

BTW: It is 76% decrease between 2000 and 2018 with NO WALL !!!


don´t you think that "emergency comes 20 years too late ?

not mentioned that nearly 70% of all illegal immigrants come with a regular visa.

the numbers do already prove that there is no emergency and that the problem is to resolve without a wall.

but the very biggest number of illegals in US is not even to stop with a wall or a complete deny of every single visa. this is because the most illegals are BORN IN THE USA.

so tell me how a wall or any other idea can stop illegals that are already in the US (near to 40% of them are even house owners) from getting babies !!!
with what kind of wall you want to resolve that ?

everyone who is wanting this wall is a proven idiot and does not know the facts.

There is a real emergency and that is getting rid of the twat in the oval office and replacing him with someone who really cares about America and its people. Not some self aggrandizing, bumbling fool who only cares about himself.