Invader, you can parrot you "saddam had wmd" version of events all you want...we will forbid you from ever mentioning us LOL...fun times ahead...

So... your thinking is that one day Serbia will matter?

Doesn't seem likely to happen in our lifetimes unless suddenly the world needs advice on mass murder of Albanians or on how to raise goats and chickens for currency.

Anybody with an amp of bacteria will matter very very much...you will not sleep when serbia has elections LOL

I'm well aware of Chinese numbers, and the single biggest number is "between 2009 and 2030, the country will add 850 million to its middle class" That's 42 million NEW consumers a year. Xi has said since 2010 that he want's that market opened up, he has no choice.

we are now halfway though that prediction.. and Chinas right on target.

For every country trading with China, it should be the single biggest growth in export earnings.. in history. For America it will take slightly longer because of American's addiction to cheap "Crap"... but at some stage the needle swings from more exports than Imports., no trump wand, Obama magic, Bush charm involved..

Just BIG FUCKIN NUMBERS

The one thig that will fuck any country is if the leader of that country manages to convince the Chinese public.. not to buy a product based on its country of origin.

Sadly Australia.. and the USA are walking into that trap

They USA is fucking itself out of the china market hard...

Same thing 90 years in making

https://ep60qmdjq8-flywheel.netdna-s...chart-1929.jpg

Wow it did not gain shit in a year...MAGA!

And in a year, Serbia is still 100% irrelevant to anyone, anywhere for any reason.

Great gains tho...0 in a year...what a record!...records shattered tho...but still 0 in a year...impressive!..but still 0...but still wow!

How do you figure it has gone up 40% in two years? When Trump started his term the Dow was at around 21,000. Today it is around 26,000. That is about a 20% increase.

Just as a comparison, when Obama walked into office the Dow was around 8,600. Two years later it was around 12,000 which is a 30% gain.

Look, you tried to genocide a race of people off the face of the earth and the USA led NATO forces bitch slapped you back into the last century.

You need to let go. You're still carrying a lot of anger that your little Albanian passion project was halted by the USA.

You need to let that shame, embarrassment and guilt go, learn to forgive yourself for butchering unarmed men, women and children and for all the mass graves,... and then you can look forward and start working on the fact that Serbian GDP is still measured in sheep and chickens and goats.

Maybe one day, with enough hard work focusing on your own backwoods gangster state... Serbian opinions will even matter?

Not anytime soon of course... but maybe one day.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...tard-owned.jpg

The dow gained 0 in one year and you are posting winning memes...your despair amuses me...thanks...

The fact that you're an irrelevant person in an irrelevant "country" with delusions of grandeur and a misguided sense of self importance, believing your opinion matters in the slightest as you dance around naked wearing an Albanians skin as a suit troubles me.

If somebody asked me how the dow did this year, I would be forced to say: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA! Oh what a desperate pussy boy you are...I bet you take it in all 3 holes!...how many made in china maga hats do you own?

Imagine what it would have been if Hillary was President.

Two years of Trump and we STILL don't have a plan for the middle east, the opioid crisis, or an infrastructure plan. Sigh.

Well if you're going by his inauguration date the dow was at 19,827.25. and that to 26k is 31%.

I came to the 40% because I counted from his election night. The dow closed that day @ 18,332.74. The market was digesting his tax and repatriation plans and that gave a huge boost to the market. That's why I counted it from there because obviously any rise from that point on was due to Trump.

So if you take it from election night or his inauguration it's either 31% or 41%.

Yeah but those were pretty rare circumstances. The facts are the market was at 14K a year before Obama took office and were 18k when he left. Again, it is not disputed that Obama reigned over the worst recovery in history. Even with QE and interest free loans for 8 years, it was abysmal.

It's already the 3rd week in Feb... have you killed any Albanians this year?

Name one thing Hillary has done in 40 years besides line her pockets from her pay-2-play foundation. :1orglaugh

I'm not going to debate math. That said, I do love the qualifications. Somehow it's Obama's fault the stock market crashed in the year before he took office? Did he also start the Great Chicago Fire and crash the Titanic?

You can think whatever you want but I would say this. You love to rail against those you say have Trump Derangement Syndrome. You need to take a breath, look in the mirror, and realize that shit goes two ways.

I dunno did you find any invisible saddam wmd to murder 500.000 people over a lie? Awkward!...we will be free from you one day...we all think you are shit LOL...you know we do...enjoy being an invader hypocrite...

Well there's not much to debate. Your numbers were off. This is historical data you can look up. The Dow was at 19,827 at his inauguration or 18,332 at his election. So it's either up 31% or 41%. Your pick. Either one is a great return.

And I never said Obama had anything to do with the crash. That was GW's administration. But he did preside over the recovery. And if you ask any economist he will tell you it was a failure. These are quantifiable numbers here not conjecture. And on top of that, Obama implemented massive federal regulations and compliance issues that costs employers in the trillions of dollars (look it up yourself).

I voted for Obama in 08. If you go through my post history around that time i'm sure you find me praising him and slamming GW. I just think Obama was bad for business and even worse for race relations.

The lion does not concern itself with the opinions of the sheep.

And the dow does not concern itself with growth...

One last math thing

Trump on his inauguration day 19,827
Trump on Jan 22, 2019 25,607
Change = 33%

Obama on his inauguration day 7,550
Obama on Jan 20, 2011 11,823
Change = 37%

Dude you're just cherry picking data. You can either go from Trump's election or his inauguration. Either a 31% or 41% gain. Your pick :pimp

OK I was just going off what the dow closed at Friday. Again, either one is good :)

Also you're comparing to vastly different scenarios :2 cents:

The stock market really moves on news and future results. GW set that QE in motion and bailed out those banks which gave that big boost to the market. I'm being honest here...I don't see anything Obama did that had much to do with that.

in the last 10 years the dow has grown 400%...this is 40%/year...trump at 20%/ year at best and 15%/year at worst is seriously under performing and it has nothing to do with cherry picking...I can not help but notice the simple math...sorry about the dow gaining 0 in the last year tho...big MAGA for sure...

Cut him some slack. His only frame of reference for understanding is the Serbian Stock Market pictured below. The Serbian Financial Market rallied on Friday Closing with a record trading volume of 18 carrots, 4 cabbages and 35 potatoes.

http://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/t...=f&x=725&y=236

still better than 0 in a whole year like the DOW :thumbsup

Successfully defended herself from over a dozen investigations without a single indictment.

so you tell us here and now that china will import 1 TRILLION of goods more than before, right ?

you mean that china will now buy 1.18 trillion of goods from US instead of 180 billion ?
this mean 655 % MORE than before !!!

what a fuck a you dreaming in the night ?
who do you think believes this shit you are spreading around ?

the US is indeed an important trade partner for China but far not the biggest.
the US is the third biggest export market for CHina and US is also the 3rd biggest trading parting for IMPORTS to China.
actually the exports from China to US are 22% of their total export volume.

do you think they fuck up the other 78% for your dumb sociopath ?

out of that you might have seen only in this very small scenario how much the US export industry depends on China. 80% of all exports to other countries than China would not work without cheap Chinese imports.

what you do not understand seems to be the fact that your economy will struggle without imports from China. 80% of all exports are effected. it concerns even the agricultural products which without the imports from China could not go at a competitive price on the world market at all.

you depend more on china as china depends on you.
and chinese still have a lot of money reserve as their dept to GDP is only 46% while the dept on GDP of USA is already 105% and in this 105% are a lot of loans FROM china.

chinese are simply not interested to slow down the world economy - but if they use this as an option the US is the first country that is fucked completely.

the one and only argument trump have in his hands is that he is willing to fuck the world economy to get what he wants. with other words: he is willing to fuck you all and excuse it as a collateral damage.

why don´t you guys wake up, get educated, do the maths and find out that what trumps wants to do is IMPOSSIBLE !

the stocks market is NOT a mirror of the economy in general.
it is the samer as with cybercoins and if people buying stocks the price will increase.

the majority of stocks sold after the tax break have been sold to the companies that gave them out.

they used the tax cutt to produce an unnatural demand.

80% of the shares in DOW are HEAVILY overpriced !!!

the next fact is that nearly ALL big share companies in DOW are depending on the world economy. a better local market have nearly zero influence on their values. but even a local market depends on the world market. when the world market struggles there is nothing that local workers can produce because there is no demand. they would lose their jobs and lost jobs are killing the local market.

so if you think that the branch of the tree you are sitting on can not break then you have overlooked that this branch is hanging on a tree which trump is sawing off right now.

yes this is exactly what they think...it is hard to retard my mind enough to MAGA levels but this is how I think their brain works: Xi will go on china TV and say "dear people of china, we must all buy more american goods, please go to your shop and buy some american shit" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

or maybe I am giving them too much credit and they just think that china will buy US shit and stock pile it somewhere...it is hard to emulate the MAGA mind without shutting off vital brain functions like breathing and thinking :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

BTW Obama 1st term...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_...f_Barack_Obama

Tuesday, January 20, 2009
Dow = 7,949.09 at Days End.

Flip forward 765 days.. (Exact same time Trump has been in)

We look at Feb 18, 2011: Dow was 12,391.25

Obamas market went up.. 55.88% for the exact same time of..765 days

Despite being handed the worst American Government portfolio of any president.. Bush's mess.

BUT - obama did not give the companies a tax cutt to buy their own shares back and create an unnatural demand.

AND
obama got a country in his hand that was in the biggest financial crisis since 100 years - trump got a healthy economy in his hands when he joined office.

so there is a HUGE difference between both and what you see in DOW now is not the reality. already 3 month after the tax cutt the effect was gone. US economy is not healthy anymore - all newer numbers are proving that.
US citizens can not borrow more as they already did to fire up a already healthy economy. now comes the time where they have to pay this loans back and this will hurt a lot because this money will be missed in the consumption.

i don´t really know what is so hard to understand on this logic for the trumpers.
the emperor´s new clothes did never exist.

Hey, I'm well aware that trump broke every piggy bank the USA had and spent it gold gilding his friends apartments... don't think it could be described any other way.