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Grapesoda 03-23-2019 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 22435629)

love mary berry!!!

onwebcam 03-23-2019 07:51 PM

I hear they are trying to remove her as we speak.

lovebitch 03-23-2019 07:59 PM

I thought they rule the world.

optics 03-23-2019 11:14 PM

Why is this your business, OP?

It's not your country. Keep your inter-generational shame to yourself.

MaDalton 03-24-2019 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22438675)
how can you expect an answer from someone that does not even know what the EU is and what it is made for.

paul does not even realize the britain´s GDP DOUBLED UP in the time between joining the EU and the referendum.
but the 76 € per head and year for this effect is too expensive for morons like paul. (ntw. Germany pays double as much per head and year)

how many times did he prove here that he have ZERO knowledge about economy ?
he will not change - no matter what you ask him. dumb is dumb. there´s no medicine against that.

A guy I met in Scotland keeps posting the same nonsense on his Facebook - blaming the EU for almost anything and whenever I look into it, it turns out it's just the UK government that is shite.

They are good at one thing though: shifting the blame for their incompetence.

thommy 03-24-2019 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22439132)
A guy I met in Scotland keeps posting the same nonsense on his Facebook - blaming the EU for almost anything and whenever I look into it, it turns out it's just the UK government that is shite.

They are good at one thing though: shifting the blame for their incompetence.

true !

and normally nobody should care when they jump from the cliff..
but unfortunately there are millions of brits who know what´s going on. i feel really sorry for them that they must run the rules made from complete, unskilled idiots, brainwashed with lies and populist nonsense.

i often ask my self what would happen if we split the world in 2 parts and let the idiots have the other half. I think in less than 20 years we would have this part also because they wiped each other out.

Paul Markham 03-24-2019 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22438398)
Name things that the EU rules over you and against your will and that affect your life negatively personally.

And that will be "better" after Brexit and that are worth giving up EU membership for.

I'm listening.

Migration, illegal migration, Court of Justice of the European Union , trade negotiations, Inefficient policies, Problems of the Euro, More bureaucracy less democracy, Leaving Is A Problem, Takes Power From Governments, Serves The Interest As A Whole, Not A Country, Schengen treaty, unable to fix problems, food prices.

The real reason is there's no need for the EU. The EU has done nothing that other countries haven't or can't do better without handing power over to a centralist bureaucracy.

Paul Markham 03-24-2019 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22439132)
A guy I met in Scotland keeps posting the same nonsense on his Facebook - blaming the EU for almost anything and whenever I look into it, it turns out it's just the UK government that is shite.

They are good at one thing though: shifting the blame for their incompetence.

Do tell us about the incompetence ofthe British Government.

Name me some thing the EU has done that non-EU countries haven't or can't do.

In the 25 years of being in the EU the wage of the working classes and lower middle classes have plummeted. The Euro is a complete mess with no solution insight, even though it's an unmitigated disaster Czech is still pressured to join.

And the EU is still passing more and more legislation on it's way to rule from the centre.

So again I ask you what has the EU done for you that could not have been achieved prior to it's creation?

And Thommy is so stupid he doesn't know the Common Market is responsible for some of the UK growth. https://researchbriefings.parliament...mmary/CBP-7851

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UK imports from the EU were £341 billion (53% of all UK imports). ... The UK had an overall trade deficit of -£67 billion with the EU in 2017. A surplus of £28 billion on trade in services was outweighed by a deficit of -£95 billion on trade in goods. The UK had a trade surplus of £41 billion with non-EU countries.
You see dumb ass Thommy, the Common Market does well from the UK. Not only do we take your low skilled, non-skilled and unemployed migrants we buy more from the CM than we sell.

Struggle4Bucks 03-24-2019 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22438342)
Why will you not accept that Brits and probably most of Europe want to rule themselves and not by some centralist bureaucracy?

Extra Extra! Read all about it:

“Re-located immigrant rather have decentralized bureaucracy”.

“Mr Markham rather sees himself ruled by Brits while relocated in CZ”

“Brits are so arrogant they even dont accept foreign rule when living overseas”.

“Brittish nationalist pensionadas who fled to the continent love britain so much that they spend their brittish money overseas”.

Struggle4Bucks 03-24-2019 04:27 PM

Paul... most immigrants who moved to the UK since the EU were Europeans with a higher education than the local pale-turd-community. Thats how much UK government fucked up... In need of immigrants because of a lack of educated locals.

Paul Markham 03-25-2019 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 22439479)
Paul... most immigrants who moved to the UK since the EU were Europeans with a higher education than the local pale-turd-community. Thats how much UK government fucked up... In need of immigrants because of a lack of educated locals.

So why not implicate a filtering system so only the more educated are allowed in?

Why not spend more in getting Brits up to standard?

Why allow EU migrants to access welfare?

Blair is responsible for the mess the UK are now in. He allowed an open door policy and didn't introduce strict rules on benefits.

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.u...labour-market/

What were the terms of reference for this. https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.u...labour-market/

Does it include the cost of a house?

I'm not anti-migration, my immediate family includes one UK residing family. My Brother, parents and me all emigrated from the UK. But we contributed in very positive ways. Which is something all migrants should do.

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.u...labour-market/

https://fullfact.org/europe/are-ther...u-migrants-uk/

https://race.bitc.org.uk/sites/defau...aged_16_64.jpg

NewNick 03-25-2019 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 22439463)
Extra Extra! Read all about it:

“Re-located ECONOMIC MIGRANT rather have decentralized bureaucracy”.

“Mr Markham rather sees himself ruled by Brits while relocated in CZ”

“Brits are so arrogant they even dont accept foreign rule when living overseas”.

“British nationalist pensionadas who fled to the continent love britain so much that they spend their brittish money overseas”.

Fixed that for you.

I wonder if Paul realises that he might have to fuck off back home should "no-deal" become a reality ?

NewNick 03-25-2019 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22439674)
So why not implicate a filtering system so only the more educated are allowed in?



What level are you educated to Paul ?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Paul Markham 03-25-2019 03:44 AM

The problem with the EU is they have achieved nothing that non-EU countries have done.

All the claims are rubbish when one looks around the world at other countries. Trade, Commerce, Economy, Law and Order, Migration, Border Security, Terrorism, etc. The facts prove that the EU is often worse at regulating these areas. Weighed down by a suffocating bureaucracy, the mission to create something to please everyone and achieves in pleasing no one. Even the simple act of launching a single currency was beyond them.

They were more interested in getting the Euro into as many countries as possible, they abandoned simple rules. Such as a Central Bank controlling borrowing and spending, then allowed countries with a bad fiscal record to join the Euro. This is the result. https://www.statista.com/statistics/...c-product-gdp/

So please tell us all what are the benefits of the EU, that non-EU countries can't achieve?

Paul Markham 03-25-2019 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 22439677)
What level are you educated to Paul ?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Explain why a filtering system is so hard. After all most countries have one, it's only the EU that doesn't.

We can test your level of education.

nico-t 03-25-2019 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22435439)
Amusing, you might say.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47614074



Thing is: EU would not allow any other deal to be submitted than the one that was negotiated for two years now.

Which leaves two options - no deal (which was just denied by the parliament but legally they wouldn't be bound to it) or a delay (which all 27 EU members would have to agree to - which they only would do if anything substantial was presented by the UK)

Meanwhile Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson are still paid by taxpayers but fucked off from their responsibilties for this mess.

Congrats. :glugglug

I find it very odd that you seem to be enjoying how May and the EU are sabotaging a democratic vote by the majority of the British people.

Paul Markham 03-25-2019 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 22439693)
I find it very odd that you seem to be enjoying how May and the EU are sabotaging a democratic vote by the majority of the British people.

He's not a supporter of Brexit. Even his last comment implies that everyone must agree with him.

MaDalton 03-25-2019 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22439418)
Migration, illegal migration, Court of Justice of the European Union , trade negotiations, Inefficient policies, Problems of the Euro, More bureaucracy less democracy, Leaving Is A Problem, Takes Power From Governments, Serves The Interest As A Whole, Not A Country, Schengen treaty, unable to fix problems, food prices.

The real reason is there's no need for the EU. The EU has done nothing that other countries haven't or can't do better without handing power over to a centralist bureaucracy.

just throwing words around is no answer, Paul. How does the court of justice of the EU affect you negatively?

How does the Schengen treaty affect you negatively, Paul? Considering that you personally are benefitting from it.

No answers, Paul, no answers. As usual.

MaDalton 03-25-2019 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 22439693)
I find it very odd that you seem to be enjoying how May and the EU are sabotaging a democratic vote by the majority of the British people.

a vote that was based on lies and misinformation (as even admitted by Nigel Farage).

what's your solution in regards to the back stop btw?


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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22439861)
He's not a supporter of Brexit. Even his last comment implies that everyone must agree with him.

Of course I am not a supporter of Brexit. Because it's stupid.


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In January 2019 Britain will officially switch from a pro-Brexit to an anti-Brexit country, and this is how we know
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-a8541576.html


Also:

https://static.independent.co.uk/s3f...31/11/jrm1.jpg

So- why is that suddenly no option anymore? An informed decision after 2 years of negotiations?

Paul Markham 03-26-2019 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22439910)
a vote that was based on lies and misinformation (as even admitted by Nigel Farage).

what's your solution in regards to the back stop btw?

Why should there not be a backstop on the side of Eire. If the EU insists, let them carry the blame. Even splitting up the UK would suit me, why should the democratic process be denied.

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Of course I am not a supporter of Brexit. Because it's stupid.
Stupid to want more control over the people who rule you. Is that how the Nazis got in?

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Also:

https://static.independent.co.uk/s3f...31/11/jrm1.jpg

So- why is that suddenly no option anymore? An informed decision after 2 years of negotiations?
To get the best deal the UK needed a strong leader. One that told the EU there would be no negotiations on a divorce bill, no guarantying of EU migrants in the UK before a trade deal was negotiated. To tell the EU that a second referendum was going to happen after the negotiations was to guaranty a bad deal.

As you can't give good reasons for the EU other than losing democracy is stupid. Here's prime reason for leaving the EU.

Why allow countries with such bad economies, poor GDP, bad government spending to join the EU. Other than they provide a huge low wage work force? The markets to sell aren't great as we've seen and these countries get money pumped into them, which makes getting their votes easy.


Come on Stefan you're making this easy for me.

MaDalton 03-26-2019 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22440496)

Come on Stefan you're making this easy for me.

I am making it indeed very easy to expose your stupidity, that's correct :thumbsup


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