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thommy 04-08-2019 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 22447864)
You forgot about Moscow! Lol

it´s telling a lot that the russians are dreaming from a 3rd worldwar, isn´t it?

now that they know that a war with germany only will eliminate 50 million russians, they want to find out the number that will come out of a war against europe or even the whole world.

that´s the reason why i don´t drink vodka - it kills the brain cells.

Paul Markham 04-08-2019 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22447866)
oh i forgot to write things without a proof is a privilege from you.

turkey is since 20 years an official candidate for the EU but this is based on a much older agreement from 1963 - the so called ankara agreement gives them the RIGHT to be a candidate.

Did you read the articles in my link. Do so and then reply.

wehateporn 04-08-2019 06:08 AM


Paul Markham 04-08-2019 06:13 AM

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If you would know what the EU is and know the rules of the EU you would also know that
a country with a bad economy can not join til they have a solution.

the EU rules are very clear in that.
So how did they miss Greece? Do you see how bad the EU is at keeping to it's own rules? Also if all the economies are good, why are over half the EU net receivers of funds from the other countries? https://www.cer.eu/insights/eurozone...poor-countries

And why are these even on a list to join? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future...ummary_t able

Do you really want to see an enlargement of the countrieswho take out more than they put in? BBC NEWS | Europe | Paying for the EU budget

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and if you would understand the dublin contract and the geneva convention you would also know that NOBODY is wanting ILLEGAL immigrants. and as soon as they are identified as illegal they get kicked out - even in Germany.
Againshit at keepingtothe rules. All the refugees who left |Turkey to go to States where they get more money are illegal migrants. People fleeing war stop when they reach a safe country. Then there are the 100,000s coming from Africa.



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again - read the dublin agreement that was signed by britain.
I do not want to talk about countries anymore who will be soon out from the EU because they refused to stand for what they have signed.
go with god but go.
Yes our leaders are fucking us up. We need direct access to people who will represent the people who elect them.



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this is an oxymoron - but you will also not understand that.
how can europe pusuit to rule europe ?

if a community agrees TOGETHER to do something it is not ruling.
you sound like a criminal who is complaining that it is not allowed to kill.
When that community is a tiny elite and not the people of the country. The results are fuck up.



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many natioanl laws can not be touched by the EU.
why do you think that german webmasters go to jail when they make a pornsite without the strict german AVS and a dutch webmaster is still free?

almost all taxes and social laws are a matter for the federal states.

most things you know as "influence of the EU" (like standards for cucumbers or bananas) where made under pressure from the agriculture of the individual countries to negotiate a price based on standards.

again: if you would take the time to read the lisbon contract and then be smart enough to understand it, then you would not even ask such stupid questions.

Your cry for the right that EU citizens have to decide each thing is a cry to make the donkey a gardener. what you want is the opposite of a government and the opposite of democracy. governments are elected to keep this work from the people that are not familiar with the complex issues.
if people like you would have the right to decide - this world would be in ashes already.

we have been shown by the brexit how little the ordinary citizens understand about the laws of the economy.
UK has voted out its own prosperity to the delight of the russians, who now have 2 big enemies dealing with so many problems that they have become incapable of action.
You still fail to give one example of something the EU has achieved that non-EU countries haven'tor can't


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and this is the real sad part of all that you guys do not even see how you got brainwashed.
Neither can you. You can't give reasons for the EU to rule Europe from the centre and if you think that's not the eventual aim, you're mistaken.

Individual rules will always apply, but they will be small things the major issues will all be under central control. https://www.ft.com/content/8fa3569c-...e-7aedca0a081a

You said a very interesting thing.

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governments are elected to keep this work from the people that are not familiar with the complex issues.
Do you really think central government is able to resolve issues that effect different countries, cultures and economies? As far apart as Greece and Germany or the UK and Bulgaria, etc?

Your problem is keeping the EU together. Many of it's citizens are so sick of it they vote for the only option dedicated to undoing it's hold. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36130006 No one is talking about doing away with the trade agreements, the cross border cooperation, visa free travel or any of the good things the EU has brought. They're simply scared of the way the centralist have taken hold.

Tell us why you are still in favour of losing your democratic rights to the centre? Do Germans see it as a way of running Europe? They've had two goes at that and look where those tries took us. You run the risk of being at the mercy of small countries https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future...ummary_t able with those countries votes out weighing the stronger nations.

thommy 04-08-2019 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22447889)
Did you read the articles in my link. Do so and then reply.

what you want to proof me with that? that 85% of the europeans are NOT RADICAL RIGHT WINGERS ???

because exactly THIS is what i can see in your links but you obviously not.

NewNick 04-08-2019 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22447903)
what you want to proof me with that? that 85% of the europeans are NOT RADICAL RIGHT WINGERS ???

because exactly THIS is what i can see in your links but you obviously not.

FFS have you nothing better to do ?

Spending your time arguing with Paul Markham is a very serious waste of time.

thommy 04-08-2019 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22447901)
So how did they miss Greece? Do you see how bad the EU is at keeping to it's own rules? Also if all the economies are good, why are over half the EU net receivers of funds from the other countries? https://www.cer.eu/insights/eurozone...poor-countries

again you do not understand what the EU is.
the example greece is a bad one as you and everybody else know that they falsificated their balance to get into the EU.

yes that did happen but you can be sure that it will not happen a second time.

but anyway - greece is on a good way and the day is not so far when they will be a payer and not a receiver anymore.

the falsification of the balance had only one really bad effect, that their own growth after the 2008 crisis went to hell.

their growth rate was at -11% and not it is at +2.1 - so you still think the EU can not do nothing for a country that is in trouble ?


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And why are these even on a list to join? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future...ummary_t able

very simple: because they are in Europe and they have a right to be in the EU as soon as they are matching the rules.

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Do you really want to see an enlargement of the countrieswho take out more than they put in? BBC NEWS | Europe | Paying for the EU budget

why did you not kill your daughter when she was born. she only cost you money !

one thing that you definitely not get is that economy is a longterm thing.
if you want a buyer you have to help him to get into a position that he CAN BUY.

all aides we send to third world countries is an investment in the future.
china is a good example. china is the number one buyer in the world.
if you delete china and india from the buyers list because they are "shit holes" you can
forget ALL economies on the fucking planet.

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Againshit at keepingtothe rules. All the refugees who left |Turkey to go to States where they get more money are illegal migrants. People fleeing war stop when they reach a safe country. Then there are the 100,000s coming from Africa.
come one paul - why do you lie. show me ONE country in the world that says yes to ILLEGAL immigrants.

what do you think means the word "ILLEGAL" ?????

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Yes our leaders are fucking us up. We need direct access to people who will represent the people who elect them.

and these are people with YOUR understanding ?

or people like boris johnson that tells people lies and after they vote for this lies he even admits that he have lied ?


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When that community is a tiny elite and not the people of the country. The results are fuck up.
now you sound like KKK

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You still fail to give one example of something the EU has achieved that non-EU countries haven'tor can't
you failed to read and listen - and thats why i will not reapeat it again and again.

see your country failing - and keep in mind that the rest of europe will applaude when that happens.

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Individual rules will always apply, but they will be small things the major issues will all be under central control. https://www.ft.com/content/8fa3569c-...e-7aedca0a081a
aha and what does britain like to do?
getting hitler elected or return to the death penalty but stay in the EU ?

you are afraid on one hand that countries with very other world views and standards COULD POSSIBLY join the EU and on the other side you see those standards as a burden.

WHAT EXACTLY do you want ?????

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You said a very interesting thing.

Do you really think central government is able to resolve issues that effect different countries, cultures and economies? As far apart as Greece and Germany or the UK and Bulgaria, etc?

you are the very best example WHY we have governments that give goals in hands of people who have the skills.

it is funny that people who do NOT have the skills know it better.

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Your problem is keeping the EU together. Many of it's citizens are so sick of it they vote for the only option dedicated to undoing it's hold. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36130006 No one is talking about doing away with the trade agreements, the cross border cooperation, visa free travel or any of the good things the EU has brought. They're simply scared of the way the centralist have taken hold.

nope - the problem is that even in europe we still have around 20% uneducated idiots.
you are one of them but you are the MINORITY and this is what you do not get.

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Tell us why you are still in favour of losing your democratic rights to the centre? Do Germans see it as a way of running Europe? They've had two goes at that and look where those tries took us. You run the risk of being at the mercy of small countries https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future...ummary_t able with those countries votes out weighing the stronger nations.
what democratic right do I lose when I can not decide with whom and it what kind of contract the EU should make deals?

but you will be very happy when britain is able to deliver war tools to the terrorists and war countries again without someone that stop them from doing that.

and you will be the first that complaints when the first UK citizen died from a british bomb.

you are a dreamer and so far from reality that it is a shame for a nation to have such dumb citizens.

Sarn 04-08-2019 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 22447864)
You forgot about Moscow! Lol

:1orglaugh oh yes
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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22447870)
it´s telling a lot that the russians are dreaming from a 3rd worldwar, isn´t it?

now that they know that a war with germany only will eliminate 50 million russians, they want to find out the number that will come out of a war against europe or even the whole world.

that´s the reason why i don´t drink vodka - it kills the brain cells.

Russia always has a defensive military strategy, not attacked.
But after the UK leaving EU, poor Poland will stay in the home alone with guys which kill 50 million civilian unarmed peoples ))

thommy 04-08-2019 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 22447907)
FFS have you nothing better to do ?

Spending your time arguing with Paul Markham is a very serious waste of time.

i have to admit that you are right.

it is my weakest point that I still believe that there must be a way to teach a parrot to understand einstein´s relativity theory.

i already teached a parrot to say it but i guess that parrot did not understand it even after many years.

paul is my second try as he is a parrot too and just repeats what he got teached to say.

CaptainHowdy 04-08-2019 07:07 AM

I'm just here to see the Master Troll at work . . .

thommy 04-08-2019 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22447911)
:1orglaugh oh yes

Russia always has a defensive military strategy, not attacked.

that´s only more or less correct. but you are right that russia mostly used the arm power to kill their own people.

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But after the UK leaving EU, poor Poland will stay in the home alone with guys which kill 50 million civilian unarmed peoples ))
they can poxit too.

but i doubt they will as the IQ balance there is quite the same as in the rest of europe.
80% smart and 20% who are too stupid to tie their own shoes.

the funny part is that this 20% always think that they are representations of the majority.

stupidity is incurable. therefore we probably have to live the rest of human history with the stupid ones.

but education helps to keep the number small. sorry that you did not win this price.

MaDalton 04-08-2019 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DraX (Post 22447812)
So you're a supporter of the German green party? :1orglaugh

I heard how they talk and they're more interested in immigration topics than working for a better environment.

where did I say that? I just stated polls.

but let me guess which party you support...

Sarn 04-08-2019 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22447922)
that´s only more or less correct. but you are right that russia mostly used the arm power to kill their own people.
...

the result of the leftist policy
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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22447922)
...
80% smart and 20% who are too stupid to tie their own shoes.
the funny part is that this 20% always think that they are representations of the majority
...

ok ok you in smart majority :1orglaugh

DraX 04-08-2019 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22447929)
where did I say that? I just stated polls.

but let me guess which party you support...

It was a question pointed at you with a question mark at the end of sentence.

It's psychology Stefan and how you out of the blue mentioned the green party in a favorable position. I'm not actually saying you vote on them but you at least identify yourself with them.

Sarn 04-08-2019 08:56 AM

‘Ruxit’ would be ‘blow’ similar to Brexit – Council of Europe chief

If Russia is forced to leave the Council of Europe around the same time the UK leaves the EU, it will have disastrous consequences for the continent, Secretary General of the Council of Europe, Thorbjorn Jagland, has warned.
“I believe many people do not understand what a blow it will be for Europe if we get Brexit and Ruxit at the same time. However, it can happen soon,” he told Norwegian news agency NTB, about the possibility of Russia leaving the organization this summer.

https://www.rt.com/news/455807-russi...europe-brexit/

MaDalton 04-08-2019 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DraX (Post 22447957)
It was a question pointed at you with a question mark at the end of sentence.

It's psychology Stefan and how you out of the blue mentioned the green party in a favorable position. I'm not actually saying you vote on them but you at least identify yourself with them.

sorry but those things are just happening in your head, I have only stated poll numbers that contradict Markhams ramblings.

But: I would vote Green anyday over any right wing party. Because I rather hang out with a bunch of hippies than a bunch of nazis.

but maybe that's just me.

DraX 04-08-2019 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22447922)
but i doubt they will as the IQ balance there is quite the same as in the rest of europe.
80% smart and 20% who are too stupid to tie their own shoes.

the funny part is that this 20% always think that they are representations of the majority.

stupidity is incurable. therefore we probably have to live the rest of human history with the stupid ones.

but education helps to keep the number small. sorry that you did not win this price.

I was talking to a doctor the other day outside the persons profession and we came into discussing politics. I was mighty surprised when it was revealed the person talked about the German people as brainwashed and the news are all lies and truth twisting etc etc.

How does a highly educated individual voting AFD fit your stupidity narrative Thommy? :1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22448003)
sorry but those things are just happening in your head, I have only stated poll numbers that contradict Markhams ramblings.

But: I would vote Green anyday over any right wing party. Because I rather hang out with a bunch of hippies than a bunch of nazis.

but maybe that's just me.

See I was right, I couldn't care less if you vote for Green or not, but you make a wrong conclusion believing everyone voting for a right-wing party like AFD are Nazis.

There are consequences Stefan with your and EU's naive political stand point. Guess what? More right-wingers, more brown shirts, more nazis, more anti-establishment opinions and more anti-eu. I don't see any tries to rectify or balance the European politics, it's only a slim corridor of opinions allowed and anyone that dare to be outside this corridor of opinions are Nazis.

You and GFY thommy should be worried about the future of Europe.

This girl was raped by 4 immigrants in the U.K. 2007, she's more committed than ever:

https://twitter.com/AwesomeAngel40

MaDalton 04-08-2019 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DraX (Post 22448018)
I was talking to a doctor the other day outside the persons profession and we came into discussing politics. I was mighty surprised when it was revealed the person talked about the German people as brainwashed and the news are all lies and truth twisting etc etc.

How does a highly educated individual voting AFD fit your stupidity narrative Thommy? :1orglaugh



See I was right, I couldn't care less if you vote for Green or not, but you make a wrong conclusion believing everyone voting for a right-wing party like AFD are Nazis.

There are consequences Stefan with your and EU's naive political stand point. Guess what? More right-wingers, more brown shirts, more nazis, more anti-establishment opinions and more anti-eu. I don't see any tries to rectify or balance the European politics, it's only a slim corridor of opinions allowed and anyone that dare to be outside this corridor of opinions are Nazis.

You and GFY thommy should be worried about the future of Europe.

This girl was raped by 4 immigrants in the U.K. 2007, she's more committed than ever:

https://twitter.com/AwesomeAngel40

one sign of right wing delusion: people like you think they are smarter than everyone else.

and ps: not every AFD voter might be a nazi - but every AFD voter votes for a party that harbours and employes former members of neo nazi parties. and that is not even open for debate

so what does that make an AFD voter - a nazi sympathizer or just plain stupid? your choice.

Struggle4Bucks 04-08-2019 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DraX (Post 22448018)

This girl was raped by 4 immigrants in the U.K. 2007

I was waiting for WeHatePorn to step in and inform us she did a Jussie Smollett on us, but i quess that when it comes down to conspiracies it only works the left uhhh i mean the other way around!

wehateporn 04-08-2019 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 22448058)
I was waiting for WeHatePorn to step in and inform us she did a Jussie Smollett on us, but i quess that when it comes down to conspiracies it only works the left uhhh i mean the other way around!

I've never heard of him unfortunately

I'm non-partisan by the way and will call out any corruption wherever I find it

Bladewire 04-08-2019 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 22448061)
I'm non-partisan by the way


thommy 04-08-2019 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22447965)
‘Ruxit’ would be ‘blow’ similar to Brexit – Council of Europe chief

If Russia is forced to leave the Council of Europe around the same time the UK leaves the EU, it will have disastrous consequences for the continent, Secretary General of the Council of Europe, Thorbjorn Jagland, has warned.
“I believe many people do not understand what a blow it will be for Europe if we get Brexit and Ruxit at the same time. However, it can happen soon,” he told Norwegian news agency NTB, about the possibility of Russia leaving the organization this summer.

https://www.rt.com/news/455807-russi...europe-brexit/

correct - but imagine - the rest of the EU is still a union and can shoulder it.

who will shoulder it with britain?

the next steps you can wait for is that scottland and northern ireland will leave the UK and join the EU.

at the end a few poor farmers in north england will be the ones that are not part of the EU.

every year 5 times more pro brexit voters are dies than contra brexit.
does that tell you something about the fuck they give to their next generation?

klinton 04-08-2019 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22447911)
But after the UK leaving EU, poor Poland will stay in the home alone with guys which kill 50 million civilian unarmed peoples ))

:(:(:( help us Ruskie.
bring Ruskie-Asian-Golden Horde-Mongol quality and standards to Europe
http://files.myeburg.net/images/fun/chumasik/1.jpg
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

klinton 04-08-2019 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22447922)
80% smart and 20% who are too stupid to tie their own shoes.

its just the opposite way worldwide, unfortunately.
20/80

Sarn 04-09-2019 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22448113)
correct - but imagine - the rest of the EU is still a union and can shoulder it.
who will shoulder it with britain?
the next steps you can wait for is that scottland and northern ireland will leave the UK and join the EU.
at the end a few poor farmers in north england will be the ones that are not part of the EU.
every year 5 times more pro brexit voters are dies than contra brexit.
does that tell you something about the fuck they give to their next generation?

As i know scotland already voted for independence and say "no". They, of course, can leave :1orglaugh But I think EU now closes as the project, they can stay alone without uk and eu.


Inside Europe: The possibility of a Polexit
As Poland celebrated the centenary of regaining its independence there were pro and anti-EU marches. The government held a nationalist march in Warsaw which was joined by far-right supporters. Those who see their future in a united Europe rallied around the President of the EU Council, Donald Tusk, in Lodz. He warned Poles against the idea of leaving the EU - a Polexit. Julian Berner reports.
https://www.dw.com/en/inside-europe-...it/av-46312699



POLEXIT THREAT Poland could follow Britain out of the EU after Brexit as top Eurocrat admits ‘Polexit is possible’
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/767185...t-is-possible/

Polish opposition kicks off election campaign with 'Polexit' warning
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-p...-idUSKCN1RI09Z

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22448342)
:(:(:( help us Ruskie.
bring Ruskie-Asian-Golden Horde-Mongol quality and standards to Europe
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Poland time to stay stronk and build eastern european empire :1orglaugh
https://coub.com/view/11umqe

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ace_Agency.png
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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22448343)
its just the opposite way worldwide, unfortunately.
3/97

shhh not talk about it Thommy, he in the smart majority :1orglaugh

Paul Markham 04-09-2019 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22447903)
what you want to proof me with that? that 85% of the europeans are NOT RADICAL RIGHT WINGERS ???

because exactly THIS is what i can see in your links but you obviously not.

I would say higher than 85% of Europeans aren't radical Right Wingers. But more and more are voting right wing because they see them as the only party to offer solutions.

All the other parties are clueless about illegal immigration, which they are according to all the treaties you dug up. So will you admit to being wrong on that one?

pimpmaster9000 04-09-2019 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22448394)
But more and more are voting right wing because they see them as the only party to offer solutions.
?

yes this is because the right wing is not constrained by the truth and will offer "solutions" to anything just as long as you suckers vote them in :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Paul Markham 04-09-2019 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22447910)
again you do not understand what the EU is.
the example greece is a bad one as you and everybody else know that they falsificated their balance to get into the EU.

yes that did happen but you can be sure that it will not happen a second time.

but anyway - greece is on a good way and the day is not so far when they will be a payer and not a receiver anymore.

the falsification of the balance had only one really bad effect, that their own growth after the 2008 crisis went to hell.

their growth rate was at -11% and not it is at +2.1 - so you still think the EU can not do nothing for a country that is in trouble ?

Again you prove yourself clueless or drinking the EU Cool Aid. The fact that Greece isn't an economy on par with any of the stronger states is obvious. But then you ignore all the other failed States. https://www.statista.com/statistics/...c-product-gdp/ How many have the Euro? How many have debt falling or rising? How many will ever contribute to the EU? How many have had GDP increase by importing companies from across the EU?

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very simple: because they are in Europe and they have a right to be in the EU as soon as they are matching the rules.
So it's no longer the economic trading union we were told, it's now the United States of Europe. Once you're in there's no leaving. Thank you for clearing that up.

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why did you not kill your daughter when she was born. she only cost you money !
The EU is not my family. My daughter will one day be self supporting and in my wife's later life able to support her. Can you say the same about Greece?

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one thing that you definitely not get is that economy is a longterm thing.
if you want a buyer you have to help him to get into a position that he CAN BUY.Do
More bullshit. Growth can only be achieved by taking business from A and moving it to B. We all know how that works on a local and global scale. Any new ad selling can only deplete the sales of existing. Czech is doing very nicely thank you with all the Northern EU companies moving here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._by_GDP_growth

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator...G?locations=EU

How much of that is because of rising debt?

I could go on but you are clearly clueless on how economies work and the hidden costs of moving companies to low wage countries. Which happens outside the EU so not unique to the EU.

Won't read any more of your bullshit until you list the things unique to the EU that other countries are incapable of. In an easy to read list.

Even the Euro is of limited use as the world is still able to trade and do business with different currencies. And all the Euro has achieved is putting countries like Greece, Italy, Portugal, etc into more debt or austerity.

Paul Markham 04-09-2019 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22447922)
that´s only more or less correct. but you are right that russia mostly used the arm power to kill their own people.

He was referring to War 2

https://www.google.com/search?biw=13...03.38CaiwX7eBI

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they can poxit too.

but i doubt they will as the IQ balance there is quite the same as in the rest of europe.
80% smart and 20% who are too stupid to tie their own shoes.

the funny part is that this 20% always think that they are representations of the majority.

stupidity is incurable. therefore we probably have to live the rest of human history with the stupid ones.

but education helps to keep the number small. sorry that you did not win this price.

Why should Poland leave. So long as they can keep out the EU fuck up illegal immigrants they will stay in the club that gives them money.

Do you loom at the facts before you post?

Paul Markham 04-09-2019 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22448024)
one sign of right wing delusion: people like you think they are smarter than everyone else.

And left wingers.

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and ps: not every AFD voter might be a nazi - but every AFD voter votes for a party that harbours and employes former members of neo nazi parties. and that is not even open for debate

so what does that make an AFD voter - a nazi sympathizer or just plain stupid? your choice.
And left wing parties harbour communists.

Europeans are waking up the fact that the ultimate aim of the EU is to rule all Europe in a form of United States of Europe. With all major decisions being made by unelected bureaucrats situated in Brussels and Strasbourg. Regional governments will be relegated to minor issues. Even Euro will be controlled from the centre to survive.

The problem is who will make the decisions? Look at the current crop at the head the of EU. Not a brains trust by any degree. The danger is the States who take out will have the deciding majority over the contributing States.

For what benefits? The EU has done nothing that non-EU countries haven't or can't achieve, Except for the Euro and freedom of movement which has led to disaster for many. Even when I ask directly for reasons to be ruled from the centre you can't give me anything non-EU countries haven't done.

So why do you and Thommy want to give up a part of your democratic rights for?

Paul Markham 04-09-2019 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DraX (Post 22448018)
See I was right, I couldn't care less if you vote for Green or not, but you make a wrong conclusion believing everyone voting for a right-wing party like AFD are Nazis.

There are consequences Stefan with your and EU's naive political stand point. Guess what? More right-wingers, more brown shirts, more nazis, more anti-establishment opinions and more anti-eu. I don't see any tries to rectify or balance the European politics, it's only a slim corridor of opinions allowed and anyone that dare to be outside this corridor of opinions are Nazis.

You and GFY thommy should be worried about the future of Europe.

This girl was raped by 4 immigrants in the U.K. 2007, she's more committed than ever:

They do exactly the same with anti-mass migration supporters, saying they're all racists. Thommy and him do it by accusing people of being dumb.

It saves them from entering a debate they can't win.

Sarn 04-09-2019 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22448397)
yes this is because the right wing is not constrained by the truth and will offer "solutions" to anything just as long as you suckers vote them in :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

"liberal" destructive sect offer for all commit mass suicide during mass rape :1orglaugh.
magic beans much better - here have a hope :1orglaugh
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22448401)
...
So it's no longer the economic trading union we were told, it's now the United States of Europe. Once you're in there's no leaving. Thank you for clearing that up.
...

European Union of Soviet Socialist Republics not United States of Europe :1orglaugh

pimpmaster9000 04-09-2019 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22448422)
"liberal" destructive sect offer for all commit mass suicide during mass rape :1orglaugh.
magic beans much better - here have a hope :1orglaugh

European Union of Soviet Socialist Republics not United States of Europe :1orglaugh

Mass rape bullshit...immigration is a keyword red herring...the real problems are not even being addressed...

thommy 04-09-2019 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22448394)
I would say higher than 85% of Europeans aren't radical Right Wingers. But more and more are voting right wing because they see them as the only party to offer solutions.

All the other parties are clueless about illegal immigration, which they are according to all the treaties you dug up. So will you admit to being wrong on that one?

but at the moment we can only see that 85% are NOT voting extrem right - this is the status quo and you can not change it.

and you can repeat it again and again - post a link where ANY EU country accepts ILLEGAL immigrants - NONE of them does - also not germany.

but I can not see why you are so unhappy - your home country did what you think is the right thing.
so get your ass out of the EU country, where you enjoy EU-benefits and enjoy your freedom there. it is quite simple.

Struggle4Bucks 04-09-2019 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22448422)
European Union of Soviet Socialist Republics not United States of Europe :1orglaugh

Lol! Nah.... were not there yet... Russia’s army ranks 30th place on worlds most powerfull armies list. I mean... even the shitiest of the 29 NATO countries is more powerfull then Russia. Lol!

Paul Markham 04-10-2019 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22448654)
but at the moment we can only see that 85% are NOT voting extrem right - this is the status quo and you can not change it.

and you can repeat it again and again - post a link where ANY EU country accepts ILLEGAL immigrants - NONE of them does - also not germany.

but I can not see why you are so unhappy - your home country did what you think is the right thing.
so get your ass out of the EU country, where you enjoy EU-benefits and enjoy your freedom there. it is quite simple.

Still incapable of posting examples of what the EU has achieved.

Let me explain how democracy works.

If the people vote for politicians dedicated to taking power away from the EU, the EU dies. The next round of MEP elections will show you the trend. 20 years ago there were no Right Wing politicians. Today there are many, even in Germany.



https://www.google.com/search?source....0.4R8Zjb8VyX8

thommy 04-10-2019 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22448971)
Still incapable of posting examples of what the EU has achieved.

Let me explain how democracy works.

I think even Erdogan could explain that better than you

Quote:

If the people vote for politicians dedicated to taking power away from the EU, the EU dies. The next round of MEP elections will show you the trend. 20 years ago there were no Right Wing politicians. Today there are many, even in Germany.
1. we have now (HOPEFULLY) a very good example what happens to a country that thinks they can do all better alone than together.
BTW: the "HOPEFULLY" stands there because I doubt meanwhile that the UK will ever be able to make this step as they do not really know what they want and the country is splitted in extreme opposite standpoints. this is what putin wanted when he helped top spread the lies with the goal to destroy the EU.

if there would be another brexit vote today the result would be COMPLETELY different.
for now it look that they will stay in the EU til the next public elections. and if the new pro-EU/anti-BREXIT party will be established til than this will be the second referendum.

2. if people take the power from their own politicians, they can also get rid of them because it does not make sense to have politicians without power.
to establish a real democracy like the one in switzerland, it would need 2-3 generations of EDUCATED people. so how can you expect that beer bar politicians with absolutely NO CLUE about anything can handle things better? WHAT do you think would full-blooded politicians like putin or xi or even kim do with them? eat them for breakfast?
WHERE did this happen ever before?
it is against EVERY existing logic that an amateur can do things better than a professional.

how many times we have seen new politicians getting into power everywhere in the world and after they have been there there was nothing left than hot air. do you think this is because they are ALL corrupt? NO ! this is because they found out that things are working very different as they have expected after they looked behind the curtain and started to understand the rules of action and reaction.

why do you think obama could not realize 10% of his ideas. why do you think trump can not fullfill a fucking promise? because they all faced the reality what people like you or other farmers in the woods of northern england never did.

you claim to be on your right but what you say are communist slogans, do you know that?
where in human history has it ever worked that a country is led by its stupidest?

you haven't even managed to build a company as a porn producer that has any value. but you know how to solve the world's problems and how business works? don't you notice how ridiculous that sounds?

if today the smartest man in the world came and claimed he could solve all the problems, he would be also the biggest liar.
what do you call the stupidest person in the world who attributes this ability to himself?

i would call him a thief because he robs other people with unrealistic blabbering the time you could use for realistic solutions.

Sarn 04-10-2019 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22448425)
Mass rape bullshit...immigration is a keyword red herring...the real problems are not even being addressed...
https://media.giphy.com/media/joV1k1sNOT5xC/giphy.gif

:1orglaugh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 22448746)
Lol! Nah.... were not there yet... Russia’s army ranks 30th place on worlds most powerfull armies list. I mean... even the shitiest of the 29 NATO countries is more powerfull then Russia. Lol!

some countries so stronk ))

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22448993)
...
BTW: the "HOPEFULLY" stands there because I doubt meanwhile that the UK will ever be able to make this step as they do not really know what they want and the country is splitted in extreme opposite standpoints. this is what putin wanted when he helped top spread the lies with the goal to destroy the EU.
...

Putin bad :1orglaugh

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22448993)
...
to establish a real democracy like the one in switzerland, it would need 2-3 generations of EDUCATED people. so how can you expect that beer bar politicians with absolutely NO CLUE about anything can handle things better? WHAT do you think would full-blooded politicians like putin or xi or even kim do with them? eat them for breakfast?
WHERE did this happen ever before?
it is against EVERY existing logic that an amateur can do things better than a professional.
...

not educated and hard working people - are people too))
Peoples bad :1orglaugh

PS: EU good, but all leave :1orglaugh

Paul Markham 04-10-2019 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22448993)
I think even Erdogan could explain that better than you



1. we have now (HOPEFULLY) a very good example what happens to a country that thinks they can do all better alone than together.
BTW: the "HOPEFULLY" stands there because I doubt meanwhile that the UK will ever be able to make this step as they do not really know what they want and the country is splitted in extreme opposite standpoints. this is what putin wanted when he helped top spread the lies with the goal to destroy the EU.

if there would be another brexit vote today the result would be COMPLETELY different.
for now it look that they will stay in the EU til the next public elections. and if the new pro-EU/anti-BREXIT party will be established til than this will be the second referendum.

2. if people take the power from their own politicians, they can also get rid of them because it does not make sense to have politicians without power.
to establish a real democracy like the one in switzerland, it would need 2-3 generations of EDUCATED people. so how can you expect that beer bar politicians with absolutely NO CLUE about anything can handle things better? WHAT do you think would full-blooded politicians like putin or xi or even kim do with them? eat them for breakfast?
WHERE did this happen ever before?
it is against EVERY existing logic that an amateur can do things better than a professional.

how many times we have seen new politicians getting into power everywhere in the world and after they have been there there was nothing left than hot air. do you think this is because they are ALL corrupt? NO ! this is because they found out that things are working very different as they have expected after they looked behind the curtain and started to understand the rules of action and reaction.

why do you think obama could not realize 10% of his ideas. why do you think trump can not fullfill a fucking promise? because they all faced the reality what people like you or other farmers in the woods of northern england never did.

you claim to be on your right but what you say are communist slogans, do you know that?
where in human history has it ever worked that a country is led by its stupidest?

you haven't even managed to build a company as a porn producer that has any value. but you know how to solve the world's problems and how business works? don't you notice how ridiculous that sounds?

if today the smartest man in the world came and claimed he could solve all the problems, he would be also the biggest liar.
what do you call the stupidest person in the world who attributes this ability to himself?

i would call him a thief because he robs other people with unrealistic blabbering the time you could use for realistic solutions.

Still incapable of posting examples of what the EU has achieved. Non-EU countries can't achieve.

klinton 04-10-2019 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 22448746)
Russia’s army ranks 30th place on worlds most powerfull armies list. I mean... even the shitiest of the 29 NATO countries is more powerfull then Russia. Lol!

did you write this ranking by yourself ? Russia is in TOP 3 military worldwide

wtf lol....


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