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MaDalton 04-11-2019 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22449843)
Still unable to print a simple list of why Europe needs to be ruled from the centre

Still too busy otherwise to play with you, old man!

Struggle4Bucks 04-11-2019 07:49 AM

Paul is like a fish… he cannot think more than 3 seconds ahead. That's why he sees an unperfect EU; unelected EU bureaucrates (Paul only accepts buttrapes from bureaucrates that were elected. Thats a huge difference… only the outcome: buttrapes, is the same!LOL); money going from rich too poor countries (yes thats going to last forever lol! no were not developing markets, we are just giving free money away there is no plan to back it up or justify it LOL); and then he considers the EU as FAILED! Only fishes and samelike fucktards cannot see that the EU is a work in progress! A transition! For that being able to see you must be able to look 3 seconds ahead!


So Paul is looking at his 3 seconds timespan of TODAY and thinks… hummm we can fix all shit with tradedeals! TRADEDEALS!!! blahblahmehmeh!!!
Geopolitics is looking 30 years ahead… but Paul wants to save the UK with tradedeals LOL!@!!! Tradedeals will be the least of Britains concerns 20 years from now… but Paul wants to save britain with Tradedeals! Jesus Christ you sound like a downer with a syfilis infected brain!

Ok lets see where is the world heading…
We have America picking up an isolationist attitude. Trumpstar is even debating NATO allready. With all respect but without NATO America could even risks loosing a war against Russia or China or risks at least very large damages…

We have China... they stepped up on the world stage... they are not stepping down anytime soon. They now slowly starting to think that they are obliged to their stature (and they are correct on this) to dominate their region. Because thats what every superpower ends up doing… dominating it's region. I can see how that gives a conflict with the USA.

We have Russia... What does it say about Russia that they regularly enter EU territory with heavily armed bombers aircrafts? Pure provocation…. What does that say? It is at least a very hostile attitude. What does it say Paul? Sure… they cant do anything in the world of today… and in Paul's world it is forever today!

Pauly Paul and the funny bunch think that the world is a fairground. That EUs wealth is here because the rest of this friendly world says: hey Europe! We like you! Here are our resources! Good luck with it and happy wealth!!!! Fact is: Europes wealth is backed by guns and bombs and was gained by killing and exploiting complete continents! Not because our entrepeneurs are soooo much smarter! Is this bad? No its human nature. I rather be the buttfucker then the buttfucked!!!

So now that we know this world is not a fairground Paul. Now that we know that Europe’s wealth is not LAW of nature.... What are 28 shitty Tiny armies going to do against geopolitically argressive, proven to be hostile countries with huge armies allready provocating all over the place! You suggest tradedeals you old fucktard?

Struggle4Bucks 04-11-2019 07:51 AM

Russia want to dominate and influence its region Paul! And Europe is that region! You go out there and fix us Some tradedeals you fuckturd

Struggle4Bucks 04-11-2019 07:59 AM

Superpowers scaling up in the battle for resources... Paul wants to scale down and fix us Some tradedeals lol

Struggle4Bucks 04-11-2019 08:02 AM

Last time britain declared war they dived right into Londons Subway to hide for 5 years from all the bombs.
But hey! Paul Will fix us Some tradedeals!

LOL

thommy 04-11-2019 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 22449901)
Last time britain declared war they dived right into Londons Subway to hide from all the bombs.
But hey! Paul Will fix us Some tradedeals!

LOL

at least the brits still did not lost their humor...

halloween day for brexit hahahaha - if this is not an omen....

Trick or Treat
Smell my feet
Give me something good to eat.....

Sarn 04-11-2019 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22449740)
you forget one thing:
russia is still celebrating every year the victory over nazi-germany.

You not like it? ))

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22449740)
russians, americans, english are still seeing theirself as the ones that cleaned the planet from people that thought EXACTLY like you.

another lie

Anti-miscegenation laws were a part of American law in some States since before the United States was established and remained so until ruled unconstitutional in 1967 by the U.S. Supreme Court in Loving v. Virginia. The term miscegenation was first used in 1863, during the American Civil War, by American journalists to discredit the abolitionist movement by stirring up debate over the prospect of interracial marriage after the abolition of slavery. In those of the original Thirteen Colonies that became states and enacted such laws, they were enacted as state law in the early 18th century; a century or more after the complete racialization of slavery.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-m..._United_States

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22449738)
the problem is that many of you guys are blinded by paroles from people that are afraid from the economic power that a european union represents.

sure that a lot of countries are afraid of the same or even more power from a united europe. and sure that those countries do all to destroy it.
and the best way to destroy it is to give you the wrong facts or only parts of the facts.

a europe without the EU will be a very poor europe - we would be slaves of the existing superpowers and possibly end up in a war against each other again.
especially because of people like trump, putin, edogan, kim and a few others who do not care or even ask allies, it is important to have a united europe that is first of all a strong economic power that can´t be overseen.

Germoni failed EU)) Merkel did it - not Kim :1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22449738)
it might be possible that this right wingers in germany have this intension you fear - but you can be sure that Germany will never be a brown country anymore. german´s love the peace they had in the last 70 years and keep it as their highest good.

believe me :1orglaugh
https://searchforvegan.ru/sites/defa...getarianec.jpg

Sarn 04-11-2019 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 22449856)
Very simple: because else it will be ruled from the outskirts...

very simple :1orglaugh
https://scontent-amt2-1.cdninstagram...ninstagram.com

Paul Markham 04-11-2019 10:35 AM

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the problem is that many of you guys are blinded by paroles from people that are afraid from the economic power that a european union represents.
Is that economic power driving the Euro, GDP, economy, living standards for the better off countries of Europe. Or pre-occupied trying to drag the lesser nations up by giving them loads of money?

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sure that a lot of countries are afraid of the same or even more power from a united europe. and sure that those countries do all to destroy it.
and the best way to destroy it is to give you the wrong facts or only parts of the facts.
The better off countries.

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a europe without the EU will be a very poor europe - we would be slaves of the existing superpowers and possibly end up in a war against each other again.
especially because of people like trump, putin, edogan, kim and a few others who do not care or even ask allies, it is important to have a united europe that is first of all a strong economic power that can´t be overseen.
The next world war will be the end of the Earth. So no more scare stories.

It would be great if the EU were led by super intelligent elite who didn't make fools of themselves. The evidence points in the other direction. Politicians aren't the brightest the country has to offer. Today clever people go into business and steer clear of politics.

Antonio Tajani

Donald Tusk

Jean-Claude Juncker

Angela Merkel

Emmanuel Macron

This is the quality of our political elite the Thommy is convinced will lead us into a brave new world. Which one has achieved anything? Even in politics they fuck up. The list of mistakes they make is longer than their list of achievements. Driven by political ideals that limit them.

The only reason they're playing hard ball with the UK deal to leave the EU is to warn other countries not to have a referendum. Because that will signal their end. The deal on the table ties the UK to the EU with no get out clause, evidence they intent to rule Europe whether Europeans want it or not.

Sarn 04-11-2019 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 22449876)
...
We have America...
We have Russia...
I rather be the buttfucker then the buttfucked!!!
...

this buttfuckers in your list provide 70 years peace :1orglaugh

pimpmaster9000 04-11-2019 10:51 AM

the paul markham alzheimer dunning kruger: politicians are supposed to score blinding wins, global economy is easy, all problems have simple win/win solutions :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


dumb mother fucker :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Sarn 04-11-2019 10:54 AM


:1orglaugh

Struggle4Bucks 04-11-2019 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22449999)
this buttfuckers in your list provide 70 years peace :1orglaugh

Putin paid trolls cant write or read english... im doing my best but mostly do not understand one single fuck about what you say lol!

MaDalton 04-11-2019 11:37 AM

Here's the reality people like Markham can't or don't want to see. The problem is: when this takes full effect Markham will be dead and the young folks will suffer from it.

Then again: should have voted remain then instead of playing with their smartphones and jerking off

The strategic outlook for the UK automotive industry beyond Brexit
https://www.sbs.ox.ac.uk/news/death-thousand-cuts

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Since the Brexit referendum all but one major decision have gone against the UK: Daimler cancelled its joint project with Nissan for Sunderland, Jaguar Land Rover moved production of the Discovery model to Slovakia, Honda announced the closure of its Swindon plant (even turning around the ship that was bringing production equipment to make the electric version of the Civic in the UK), and Nissan announced that the next generation of the X-trail SUV would be produced in Japan (making good use of the EU-Japan free-trade deal that has just come into force and will see import tariffs on cars taper away to zero). In addition, Toyota and BMW have both put out stark warnings that their UK production is under threat in a no-deal Brexit scenario. Toyota’s recent announcement to produce a Suzuki-badged version of its Corolla estate in the UK surely was welcome news in this context, while of course this will neither lead to new employment nor significant additional investment. Not surprisingly, overall investment in the industry has dropped by 80% over the last three years.

Paul Markham 04-11-2019 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 22449845)
Because it reduce administration costs.

Not for the better off countries.

Struggle4Bucks 04-11-2019 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22450058)
The problem is: when this takes full effect Markham will be dead

Yeah... i’ve read today that the brexit will take another 6 months...

Struggle4Bucks 04-11-2019 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22449999)
this buttfuckers in your list provide 70 years peace :1orglaugh

Ahhh I unraveled your babblings.... The Russians helped defeating the nazis; they sure did not provided or contributed to 70 years of peace...

From the last 70 years... The russians were hungry 60 of them...
You cant provide peace with an empty stomach...

pimpmaster9000 04-11-2019 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 22450096)
Yeah... i’ve read today that the brexit will take another 6 months...

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

thommy 04-11-2019 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 22450101)
Ahhh I unraveled your babblings.... The Russians helped defeating the nazis; they sure did not provided or contributed to 70 years of peace...

but let´s not forget: when germany run into poland from the west the russians did it the same time from the east.

history isn't really something russians know a lot about. forgive him - he just doesn't know any better.

thommy 04-11-2019 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22450059)
Not for the better off countries.

you really sound like a supremacist

Do you know that you're scaring the young people who read here?

no - not because of your crazy theses, but they probably all believe that they all end up like you when they get older.

when i am as old as you and start to give such nonsense of me i hope that someone is there and pulls the plug from the internet. don't you notice which clown you make out of yourself?

Struggle4Bucks 04-11-2019 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22450117)
but let´s not forget: when germany run into poland from the west the russians did it the same time from the east.

Correct! And i think Poland also still remembers. If I was Poland i might be thinking about maybe some sort of missile defense shield or something....

Oh wait....

NatalieK 04-11-2019 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22450006)

:1orglaugh

he´s a rude ignorant childish twat :helpme



If the 50% of Americans that wanted him in cannot see how much an idiot he is by now, help them, they need mental help :Oh crap

Sarn 04-11-2019 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 22450096)
Yeah... i’ve read today that the brexit will take another 6 months...

It English guys)) they will take Merkel's money for not leave EU, so much as only she can pay them. More time = more money :2 cents:
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22450059)
Not for the better off countries.

Bureaucrats ruined Union for the low-cost price :1orglaugh
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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 22450101)
Ahhh I unraveled your babblings.... The Russians helped defeating the nazis; they sure did not provided or contributed to 70 years of peace...
From the last 70 years... The russians were hungry 60 of them...
You cant provide peace with an empty stomach...

with fat ass provide peace better? :1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22450117)
but let´s not forget: when germany run into poland from the west the russians did it the same time from the east.
history isn't really something russians know a lot about. forgive him - he just doesn't know any better.

poor stronk poland :1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22449738)
...
Germany always did better than the other european nations
...

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22450128)
you really sound like a supremacist
Do you know that you're scaring the young people who read here?
...

:1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 22450160)
Correct! And i think Poland also still remembers. If I was Poland i might be thinking about maybe some sort of missile defense shield or something....

Oh wait....

pay for it to Trump and put :1orglaugh we move some very deadly into Poland border too :1orglaugh

NatalieK 04-11-2019 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 22450096)
Yeah... i’ve read today that the brexit will take another 6 months...

most brits that wanted Brexit are now so against it, knowing the things they do, they just want to remain.

I watched the news and they asked 100´s of Brexit voters, they all said the same thing, what a nightmare, just forget leaving, forget deals...

remain :2 cents:

The Porn Nerd 04-11-2019 02:53 PM

Europe needs someone to make the trains run on time.
But, you know, a nicer version of it. :D

:pimp

thommy 04-11-2019 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22450229)
Europe needs someone to make the trains run on time.
But, you know, a nicer version of it. :D

:pimp

the EU is a VERY VERY old idea - and it was actually a french and english idea NOT a german.

but europe knew already in the 60s that they can not survive long term without some kind of union.

everybody knew that it will be hard to get things in common and the biggest problem of the EU was, that they did not adapt the freedom from the single EU countries and make it a common standard - they took the prohibitions. a little bit more balance would have been better.

on the other hand every kind of union is based on compromises. even when you have a girlfriend or a wife you have to agree to a compromise. now image you have 28 girlfriends.

the EU is nothing for egoists who do not care others or the furture of their own children.
everbody kenw it from the start. what they did not know was that the internet have such a power to spread lies and influence people with wrong or half true information.
conspiracy theories were always welcome in the world of the dumb ones that do not really how how the world is spinning.
the smart ones are also here not the problem. the uneducated haters are the problem.

unfortunately we can not throw the dumb ones out of the EU (what would make mostly a lot more sense as to throw the immigrants out). it is the responsability of each single country to educate their citizens. if they don´t do or allow to promote lies in the name of freedom of speech - we will end up in civil wars and possibly worldwide wars again.

Sarn 04-11-2019 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22450229)
Europe needs someone to make the trains run on time.
But, you know, a nicer version of it. :D

:pimp

someone who loves Islam and corrupt bureaucracy?

https://medialeaks.ru/wp-content/upl...8/07/02755.jpg

MaDalton 04-11-2019 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22450229)
Europe needs someone to make the trains run on time.
But, you know, a nicer version of it. :D

:pimp

in case i understand the joke correctly it's a really shitty joke. :2 cents:

klinton 04-11-2019 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 22450021)
Putin paid trolls cant write or read english... im doing my best but mostly do not understand one single fuck about what you say lol!

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

in soviet russia english writes YOU !

klinton 04-11-2019 11:24 PM

So many people are preoccupied and worried about Brexit, and they are not even from UK...
it amazes me. what amazes me even more is how all Germans are preoccupied by UK decision..same with France...
damn, dudes. get over it. they made a decision already. respect it. maybe in the future they will want to come back, maybe the decision is bad or wrong...maybe they wont do it at all...but they made a decision...

All these laments from German and French side prove only one thing - that Brexit will be potentially harmful for said countries, not especially for UK...
So why you lamenting about Brexit ? Just respect it !

Struggle4Bucks 04-12-2019 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22450497)
So many people are preoccupied and worried about Brexit, and they are not even from UK...
it amazes me. what amazes me even more is how all Germans are preoccupied by UK decision..same with France...
damn, dudes. get over it. they made a decision already. respect it. maybe in the future they will want to come back, maybe the decision is bad or wrong...maybe they wont do it at all...but they made a decision...

All these laments from German and French side prove only one thing - that Brexit will be potentially harmful for said countries, not especially for UK...
So why you lamenting about Brexit ? Just respect it !

I understand what you are saying. I think we can all accept Brexit. Its more harmfull to the UK than to The EU! Its just that we cant accept and cant deal with the gigantic annoying stupidity of Pauly Paul and the Funny Bunch!!!!!

If it turns out that Paul actually have brains... then he should give them to science! Because i have never saw that much sciencefiction coming from 1 brain!

thommy 04-12-2019 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22450497)
So many people are preoccupied and worried about Brexit, and they are not even from UK...
it amazes me. what amazes me even more is how all Germans are preoccupied by UK decision..same with France...
damn, dudes. get over it. they made a decision already. respect it. maybe in the future they will want to come back, maybe the decision is bad or wrong...maybe they wont do it at all...but they made a decision...

All these laments from German and French side prove only one thing - that Brexit will be potentially harmful for said countries, not especially for UK...
So why you lamenting about Brexit ? Just respect it !

I am not worry - but it hurts when you see that people get tricked into an election, after they voted it comes out that they got fooled and now they have to eat it.

the pro-brexit part is in the meantime at 35% !!!!
they are able to do the same voting in the parliament 4 times and still with the same result. but people that got fooled do not get a second chance to fix the mistake they did under wrong information.

THIS is the mess and THIS is the point where democracy does not get respected.

I would not say a word if polls would not tell SO CLEAR that a third of pro brexit vortes have changed their mind. and don´t forget: it was a very thin victory they had.

so where are here the voices to let people decide?
I thought THIS is what the whole thing was made for ?

pimpmaster9000 04-12-2019 01:19 AM

bitches, why aint the brexit magic beans growing? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

whaddup NHS bus? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

thommy 04-12-2019 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22450524)
bitches, why aint the brexit magic beans growing? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

whaddup NHS bus? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

you mean NHS lie bus ?

astronaut x 04-12-2019 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 22449876)
Paul is like a fish… he cannot think more than 3 seconds ahead.

or at least until tube sites.

Paul Markham 04-12-2019 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22450128)
you really sound like a supremacist

Do you know that you're scaring the young people who read here?

no - not because of your crazy theses, but they probably all believe that they all end up like you when they get older.

when i am as old as you and start to give such nonsense of me i hope that someone is there and pulls the plug from the internet. don't you notice which clown you make out of yourself?

I am a supremacist and make no apologies for it. I believe the best will rise to the top, I believe the strongest win every time and that the weak must be seen as that and allowed and encouraged to get ahead but not given hand outs to keep them weak.

The EU would be a great union if it was reserved for the better European countries. The shame is now the bureaucrats see it as a Union for everyone with no real barriers to entry. While those smaller economic countries are allowed to trade they should not be allowed a vote in the EU, freedom of movement, Euro and not be bound by European rules other than trade rules.

Once you do you get a voting bloc that out weighs the votes of the economic strong countries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting...European_Union this will show you the problem now and it will get worse when the UK leaves. When the smaller countries join, you're fucked.

As for the young. What young do you refer to, the Youth Unemployed or the upper middle class youth? https://www.statista.com/statistics/...-eu-countries/ a few more years and they will realise the EU has delivered nothing.

Paul Markham 04-12-2019 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 22450185)
If the 50% of Americans that wanted him in cannot see how much an idiot he is by now, help them, they need mental help :Oh crap

Even some of his supporters realise that he's not the greatest. They just preferred him to Hillary. Now get over it.

The problem is with the Democrats and their failure to address the issues effecting A lot of American lives.

Paul Markham 04-12-2019 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 22450189)
most brits that wanted Brexit are now so against it, knowing the things they do, they just want to remain.

I watched the news and they asked 100´s of Brexit voters, they all said the same thing, what a nightmare, just forget leaving, forget deals...

remain :2 cents:

I'm starting to think that you're right. The EU is terrified to give the UK any sort of a decent deal. So staying in and destroying it's hold on Europe from the inside is the best way of freeing Europe. https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ists-democrats

The centre parties that some foolishly believe are full of superior minds have fucked up. So time to kick them out and try a new route. My opinion is to keep the good things, Trade, cross border cooperation, etc and lose the bad things. Any government that can't decide on a single place to run from, Brussels and Strasbourg, is unfit for purpose.

Paul Markham 04-12-2019 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22450253)
the EU is a VERY VERY old idea - and it was actually a french and english idea NOT a german.

but europe knew already in the 60s that they can not survive long term without some kind of union.

everybody knew that it will be hard to get things in common and the biggest problem of the EU was, that they did not adapt the freedom from the single EU countries and make it a common standard - they took the prohibitions. a little bit more balance would have been better.

on the other hand every kind of union is based on compromises. even when you have a girlfriend or a wife you have to agree to a compromise. now image you have 28 girlfriends.

the EU is nothing for egoists who do not care others or the furture of their own children.
everbody kenw it from the start. what they did not know was that the internet have such a power to spread lies and influence people with wrong or half true information.
conspiracy theories were always welcome in the world of the dumb ones that do not really how how the world is spinning.
the smart ones are also here not the problem. the uneducated haters are the problem.

unfortunately we can not throw the dumb ones out of the EU (what would make mostly a lot more sense as to throw the immigrants out). it is the responsability of each single country to educate their citizens. if they don´t do or allow to promote lies in the name of freedom of speech - we will end up in civil wars and possibly worldwide wars again.

The EU was a good idea when it was the Common Market, a bloc of countries setting the same trade rules, cross border cooperation, visa rules, etc and reserved for countries with a sound economic structure. It turned bad when it became the EU and started to enlarge taking in weaker countries, giving them the vote, allowing workers to move from country to country and need welfare support from their new country.

Cameron tried to change the rules when he renegotiated the treaty. Denied a stop to unregulated EU immigrants he turned to welfare benefits and Poland said NO. All he got was a temporary stop.

I've linked you time and again to the problems, showing you EU stats. So no bullshit about lies. And every time you try to give a reason why Brussels and Strasbourg should rule Europe you fail to give a reasonable answer.

Because the only changes unique to the EU are disasters. So much for you theory on we have to trust politicians and bureaucrats to get it right.

Paul Markham 04-12-2019 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22450511)
I am not worry - but it hurts when you see that people get tricked into an election, after they voted it comes out that they got fooled and now they have to eat it.

the pro-brexit part is in the meantime at 35% !!!!
they are able to do the same voting in the parliament 4 times and still with the same result. but people that got fooled do not get a second chance to fix the mistake they did under wrong information.

THIS is the mess and THIS is the point where democracy does not get respected.

I would not say a word if polls would not tell SO CLEAR that a third of pro brexit vortes have changed their mind. and don´t forget: it was a very thin victory they had.

so where are here the voices to let people decide?
I thought THIS is what the whole thing was made for ?

Are you ignoring the facts? The British and other countries voted to join the Common Market. Then denied another vote on whether they wanted to join the EU or ignored when they voted the wrong way. Every 4/5 years different countries get to change their leadership. Not so with the EU until now. Previously both Centre Right and Left were in control and very much for the EU. Now a coalition of Far Right and Leave parties are set to destroy from the inside (the point of this thread) and you are very much against democracy.

MaDalton 04-12-2019 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22450559)
The EU is terrified to give the UK any sort of a decent deal.

Bullshit.

A deal has been negotiated for two years and been accepted - the problem is that the DUP and enough Tories do not accept the Irish back stop. And the EU rightfully doesn't give up on that.

So, Paul, what is your solution to that?

I have asked you repeatedly and you never answered it.

CaptainHowdy 04-12-2019 04:02 AM


thommy 04-12-2019 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22450554)
I am a supremacist and make no apologies for it. I believe the best will rise to the top, I believe the strongest win every time and that the weak must be seen as that and allowed and encouraged to get ahead but not given hand outs to keep them weak.


I am not surprised. it is an obvious thing that the dumbest clowns that aren´t good for anything think, they are the crown of creation.

if I send a 6 year old average intelligent african out of the bush for 10 years to school
he will be the supremacist in compare to you.

he just did not get the chance but you had it and made nothing out of it.


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The EU would be a great union if it was reserved for the better European countries. The shame is now the bureaucrats see it as a Union for everyone with no real barriers to entry. While those smaller economic countries are allowed to trade they should not be allowed a vote in the EU, freedom of movement, Euro and not be bound by European rules other than trade rules.
wouldn´t it be great when china had joined the EU while it was a shithole - just a few years ago?

now EU can be glad when they can join a deal between ASEAN and the EU.
btw. ASEAN trade countries are by far the biggest market in the world.

to get into that as a small country you have to pay a lot of entry fees.
so away from the EU is not much left for britain. maybe putin will do.


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Once you do you get a voting bloc that out weighs the votes of the economic strong countries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting...European_Union this will show you the problem now and it will get worse when the UK leaves. When the smaller countries join, you're fucked.
as you see on this list the strong countries have the higher voting rights.
and you can be sure that they know that formula very well. but if you are unsure you can ask them. maybe they will give you a medal because you showed them something that they created themselves but would have forgotten without you.




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As for the young. What young do you refer to, the Youth Unemployed or the upper middle class youth? https://www.statista.com/statistics/...-eu-countries/ a few more years and they will realise the EU has delivered nothing.
this is not a problem from the EU - this is a problem of the whole world and it will become worse. but i am sure britain will resolve it alone.
british pakistanis will be glad to help you teaching your kids how to make carpets.

deep inside I was willing to believe that you are not that dumb in real as you show here every fucking day. I thought in the beginning you're just acting stupid to kid all of us. but you prove again and again the hard fact that you are simply stupid.

MaDalton 04-12-2019 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22450571)
Bullshit.

A deal has been negotiated for two years and been accepted - the problem is that the DUP and enough Tories do not accept the Irish back stop. And the EU rightfully doesn't give up on that.

So, Paul, what is your solution to that?

I have asked you repeatedly and you never answered it.

every time I ask this question these threads die...

thommy 04-12-2019 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22450708)
every time I ask this question these threads die...

he gives a shit on the problems between northern ireland and ireland.

he is anyway in CZ and will not be effected in any way by a border.

the U in UK is less worth than the U in EU.

thats´why these people don´t feel well in any union because it means for them that all have to do what they want.

they are using the word democracy but meant is dictatorship.
but ONLY when THEY are the dictators.

the only way out is to send them back to school or wait til they are sharing their thoughts with the earthworms.

Sarn 04-12-2019 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22450726)
he gives a shit on the problems between northern ireland and ireland...

:1orglaugh

Bladewire 04-12-2019 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22450571)
Bullshit.

A deal has been negotiated for two years and been accepted - the problem is that the DUP and enough Tories do not accept the Irish back stop. And the EU rightfully doesn't give up on that.

So, Paul, what is your solution to that?

I have asked you repeatedly and you never answered it.

Paul doesn't answer tough questions that require knowledge.

You could you give Paul a bit of knowledge today and ask him to remember it and a week from now he'll claim he doesn't know what you're talkin about.

thommy 04-12-2019 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22450741)
:1orglaugh

Sparta has gone more than 2200 years ago.
kicked ass by the Achaian League - one of the first big unions.

keep on dreaming!

klinton 04-12-2019 11:29 AM

150 Germans worried by Brexit + 1 drunk Ruskie on his shift

Sarn 04-12-2019 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22450748)
Sparta has gone more than 2200 years ago.
kicked ass by the Achaian League - one of the first big unions.

keep on dreaming!

Sparta destroy the Achaian League with help Rome



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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22450824)
150 Germans worried by Brexit + 1 drunk Ruskie on his shift

Time for Poland stay independent :)


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