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Struggle4Bucks 04-11-2019 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22450117)
but letīs not forget: when germany run into poland from the west the russians did it the same time from the east.

Correct! And i think Poland also still remembers. If I was Poland i might be thinking about maybe some sort of missile defense shield or something....

Oh wait....

NatalieK 04-11-2019 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22450006)

:1orglaugh

heīs a rude ignorant childish twat :helpme



If the 50% of Americans that wanted him in cannot see how much an idiot he is by now, help them, they need mental help :Oh crap

Sarn 04-11-2019 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 22450096)
Yeah... i’ve read today that the brexit will take another 6 months...

It English guys)) they will take Merkel's money for not leave EU, so much as only she can pay them. More time = more money :2 cents:
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22450059)
Not for the better off countries.

Bureaucrats ruined Union for the low-cost price :1orglaugh
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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 22450101)
Ahhh I unraveled your babblings.... The Russians helped defeating the nazis; they sure did not provided or contributed to 70 years of peace...
From the last 70 years... The russians were hungry 60 of them...
You cant provide peace with an empty stomach...

with fat ass provide peace better? :1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22450117)
but letīs not forget: when germany run into poland from the west the russians did it the same time from the east.
history isn't really something russians know a lot about. forgive him - he just doesn't know any better.

poor stronk poland :1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22449738)
...
Germany always did better than the other european nations
...

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22450128)
you really sound like a supremacist
Do you know that you're scaring the young people who read here?
...

:1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 22450160)
Correct! And i think Poland also still remembers. If I was Poland i might be thinking about maybe some sort of missile defense shield or something....

Oh wait....

pay for it to Trump and put :1orglaugh we move some very deadly into Poland border too :1orglaugh

NatalieK 04-11-2019 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 22450096)
Yeah... i’ve read today that the brexit will take another 6 months...

most brits that wanted Brexit are now so against it, knowing the things they do, they just want to remain.

I watched the news and they asked 100īs of Brexit voters, they all said the same thing, what a nightmare, just forget leaving, forget deals...

remain :2 cents:

The Porn Nerd 04-11-2019 02:53 PM

Europe needs someone to make the trains run on time.
But, you know, a nicer version of it. :D

:pimp

thommy 04-11-2019 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22450229)
Europe needs someone to make the trains run on time.
But, you know, a nicer version of it. :D

:pimp

the EU is a VERY VERY old idea - and it was actually a french and english idea NOT a german.

but europe knew already in the 60s that they can not survive long term without some kind of union.

everybody knew that it will be hard to get things in common and the biggest problem of the EU was, that they did not adapt the freedom from the single EU countries and make it a common standard - they took the prohibitions. a little bit more balance would have been better.

on the other hand every kind of union is based on compromises. even when you have a girlfriend or a wife you have to agree to a compromise. now image you have 28 girlfriends.

the EU is nothing for egoists who do not care others or the furture of their own children.
everbody kenw it from the start. what they did not know was that the internet have such a power to spread lies and influence people with wrong or half true information.
conspiracy theories were always welcome in the world of the dumb ones that do not really how how the world is spinning.
the smart ones are also here not the problem. the uneducated haters are the problem.

unfortunately we can not throw the dumb ones out of the EU (what would make mostly a lot more sense as to throw the immigrants out). it is the responsability of each single country to educate their citizens. if they donīt do or allow to promote lies in the name of freedom of speech - we will end up in civil wars and possibly worldwide wars again.

Sarn 04-11-2019 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22450229)
Europe needs someone to make the trains run on time.
But, you know, a nicer version of it. :D

:pimp

someone who loves Islam and corrupt bureaucracy?

https://medialeaks.ru/wp-content/upl...8/07/02755.jpg

MaDalton 04-11-2019 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22450229)
Europe needs someone to make the trains run on time.
But, you know, a nicer version of it. :D

:pimp

in case i understand the joke correctly it's a really shitty joke. :2 cents:

klinton 04-11-2019 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 22450021)
Putin paid trolls cant write or read english... im doing my best but mostly do not understand one single fuck about what you say lol!

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

in soviet russia english writes YOU !

klinton 04-11-2019 11:24 PM

So many people are preoccupied and worried about Brexit, and they are not even from UK...
it amazes me. what amazes me even more is how all Germans are preoccupied by UK decision..same with France...
damn, dudes. get over it. they made a decision already. respect it. maybe in the future they will want to come back, maybe the decision is bad or wrong...maybe they wont do it at all...but they made a decision...

All these laments from German and French side prove only one thing - that Brexit will be potentially harmful for said countries, not especially for UK...
So why you lamenting about Brexit ? Just respect it !

Struggle4Bucks 04-12-2019 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22450497)
So many people are preoccupied and worried about Brexit, and they are not even from UK...
it amazes me. what amazes me even more is how all Germans are preoccupied by UK decision..same with France...
damn, dudes. get over it. they made a decision already. respect it. maybe in the future they will want to come back, maybe the decision is bad or wrong...maybe they wont do it at all...but they made a decision...

All these laments from German and French side prove only one thing - that Brexit will be potentially harmful for said countries, not especially for UK...
So why you lamenting about Brexit ? Just respect it !

I understand what you are saying. I think we can all accept Brexit. Its more harmfull to the UK than to The EU! Its just that we cant accept and cant deal with the gigantic annoying stupidity of Pauly Paul and the Funny Bunch!!!!!

If it turns out that Paul actually have brains... then he should give them to science! Because i have never saw that much sciencefiction coming from 1 brain!

thommy 04-12-2019 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22450497)
So many people are preoccupied and worried about Brexit, and they are not even from UK...
it amazes me. what amazes me even more is how all Germans are preoccupied by UK decision..same with France...
damn, dudes. get over it. they made a decision already. respect it. maybe in the future they will want to come back, maybe the decision is bad or wrong...maybe they wont do it at all...but they made a decision...

All these laments from German and French side prove only one thing - that Brexit will be potentially harmful for said countries, not especially for UK...
So why you lamenting about Brexit ? Just respect it !

I am not worry - but it hurts when you see that people get tricked into an election, after they voted it comes out that they got fooled and now they have to eat it.

the pro-brexit part is in the meantime at 35% !!!!
they are able to do the same voting in the parliament 4 times and still with the same result. but people that got fooled do not get a second chance to fix the mistake they did under wrong information.

THIS is the mess and THIS is the point where democracy does not get respected.

I would not say a word if polls would not tell SO CLEAR that a third of pro brexit vortes have changed their mind. and donīt forget: it was a very thin victory they had.

so where are here the voices to let people decide?
I thought THIS is what the whole thing was made for ?

pimpmaster9000 04-12-2019 01:19 AM

bitches, why aint the brexit magic beans growing? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

whaddup NHS bus? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

thommy 04-12-2019 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22450524)
bitches, why aint the brexit magic beans growing? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

whaddup NHS bus? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

you mean NHS lie bus ?

astronaut x 04-12-2019 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 22449876)
Paul is like a fish… he cannot think more than 3 seconds ahead.

or at least until tube sites.

Paul Markham 04-12-2019 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22450128)
you really sound like a supremacist

Do you know that you're scaring the young people who read here?

no - not because of your crazy theses, but they probably all believe that they all end up like you when they get older.

when i am as old as you and start to give such nonsense of me i hope that someone is there and pulls the plug from the internet. don't you notice which clown you make out of yourself?

I am a supremacist and make no apologies for it. I believe the best will rise to the top, I believe the strongest win every time and that the weak must be seen as that and allowed and encouraged to get ahead but not given hand outs to keep them weak.

The EU would be a great union if it was reserved for the better European countries. The shame is now the bureaucrats see it as a Union for everyone with no real barriers to entry. While those smaller economic countries are allowed to trade they should not be allowed a vote in the EU, freedom of movement, Euro and not be bound by European rules other than trade rules.

Once you do you get a voting bloc that out weighs the votes of the economic strong countries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting...European_Union this will show you the problem now and it will get worse when the UK leaves. When the smaller countries join, you're fucked.

As for the young. What young do you refer to, the Youth Unemployed or the upper middle class youth? https://www.statista.com/statistics/...-eu-countries/ a few more years and they will realise the EU has delivered nothing.

Paul Markham 04-12-2019 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 22450185)
If the 50% of Americans that wanted him in cannot see how much an idiot he is by now, help them, they need mental help :Oh crap

Even some of his supporters realise that he's not the greatest. They just preferred him to Hillary. Now get over it.

The problem is with the Democrats and their failure to address the issues effecting A lot of American lives.

Paul Markham 04-12-2019 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 22450189)
most brits that wanted Brexit are now so against it, knowing the things they do, they just want to remain.

I watched the news and they asked 100īs of Brexit voters, they all said the same thing, what a nightmare, just forget leaving, forget deals...

remain :2 cents:

I'm starting to think that you're right. The EU is terrified to give the UK any sort of a decent deal. So staying in and destroying it's hold on Europe from the inside is the best way of freeing Europe. https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ists-democrats

The centre parties that some foolishly believe are full of superior minds have fucked up. So time to kick them out and try a new route. My opinion is to keep the good things, Trade, cross border cooperation, etc and lose the bad things. Any government that can't decide on a single place to run from, Brussels and Strasbourg, is unfit for purpose.

Paul Markham 04-12-2019 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22450253)
the EU is a VERY VERY old idea - and it was actually a french and english idea NOT a german.

but europe knew already in the 60s that they can not survive long term without some kind of union.

everybody knew that it will be hard to get things in common and the biggest problem of the EU was, that they did not adapt the freedom from the single EU countries and make it a common standard - they took the prohibitions. a little bit more balance would have been better.

on the other hand every kind of union is based on compromises. even when you have a girlfriend or a wife you have to agree to a compromise. now image you have 28 girlfriends.

the EU is nothing for egoists who do not care others or the furture of their own children.
everbody kenw it from the start. what they did not know was that the internet have such a power to spread lies and influence people with wrong or half true information.
conspiracy theories were always welcome in the world of the dumb ones that do not really how how the world is spinning.
the smart ones are also here not the problem. the uneducated haters are the problem.

unfortunately we can not throw the dumb ones out of the EU (what would make mostly a lot more sense as to throw the immigrants out). it is the responsability of each single country to educate their citizens. if they donīt do or allow to promote lies in the name of freedom of speech - we will end up in civil wars and possibly worldwide wars again.

The EU was a good idea when it was the Common Market, a bloc of countries setting the same trade rules, cross border cooperation, visa rules, etc and reserved for countries with a sound economic structure. It turned bad when it became the EU and started to enlarge taking in weaker countries, giving them the vote, allowing workers to move from country to country and need welfare support from their new country.

Cameron tried to change the rules when he renegotiated the treaty. Denied a stop to unregulated EU immigrants he turned to welfare benefits and Poland said NO. All he got was a temporary stop.

I've linked you time and again to the problems, showing you EU stats. So no bullshit about lies. And every time you try to give a reason why Brussels and Strasbourg should rule Europe you fail to give a reasonable answer.

Because the only changes unique to the EU are disasters. So much for you theory on we have to trust politicians and bureaucrats to get it right.

Paul Markham 04-12-2019 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22450511)
I am not worry - but it hurts when you see that people get tricked into an election, after they voted it comes out that they got fooled and now they have to eat it.

the pro-brexit part is in the meantime at 35% !!!!
they are able to do the same voting in the parliament 4 times and still with the same result. but people that got fooled do not get a second chance to fix the mistake they did under wrong information.

THIS is the mess and THIS is the point where democracy does not get respected.

I would not say a word if polls would not tell SO CLEAR that a third of pro brexit vortes have changed their mind. and donīt forget: it was a very thin victory they had.

so where are here the voices to let people decide?
I thought THIS is what the whole thing was made for ?

Are you ignoring the facts? The British and other countries voted to join the Common Market. Then denied another vote on whether they wanted to join the EU or ignored when they voted the wrong way. Every 4/5 years different countries get to change their leadership. Not so with the EU until now. Previously both Centre Right and Left were in control and very much for the EU. Now a coalition of Far Right and Leave parties are set to destroy from the inside (the point of this thread) and you are very much against democracy.

MaDalton 04-12-2019 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22450559)
The EU is terrified to give the UK any sort of a decent deal.

Bullshit.

A deal has been negotiated for two years and been accepted - the problem is that the DUP and enough Tories do not accept the Irish back stop. And the EU rightfully doesn't give up on that.

So, Paul, what is your solution to that?

I have asked you repeatedly and you never answered it.

CaptainHowdy 04-12-2019 04:02 AM


thommy 04-12-2019 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22450554)
I am a supremacist and make no apologies for it. I believe the best will rise to the top, I believe the strongest win every time and that the weak must be seen as that and allowed and encouraged to get ahead but not given hand outs to keep them weak.


I am not surprised. it is an obvious thing that the dumbest clowns that arenīt good for anything think, they are the crown of creation.

if I send a 6 year old average intelligent african out of the bush for 10 years to school
he will be the supremacist in compare to you.

he just did not get the chance but you had it and made nothing out of it.


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The EU would be a great union if it was reserved for the better European countries. The shame is now the bureaucrats see it as a Union for everyone with no real barriers to entry. While those smaller economic countries are allowed to trade they should not be allowed a vote in the EU, freedom of movement, Euro and not be bound by European rules other than trade rules.
wouldnīt it be great when china had joined the EU while it was a shithole - just a few years ago?

now EU can be glad when they can join a deal between ASEAN and the EU.
btw. ASEAN trade countries are by far the biggest market in the world.

to get into that as a small country you have to pay a lot of entry fees.
so away from the EU is not much left for britain. maybe putin will do.


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Once you do you get a voting bloc that out weighs the votes of the economic strong countries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting...European_Union this will show you the problem now and it will get worse when the UK leaves. When the smaller countries join, you're fucked.
as you see on this list the strong countries have the higher voting rights.
and you can be sure that they know that formula very well. but if you are unsure you can ask them. maybe they will give you a medal because you showed them something that they created themselves but would have forgotten without you.




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As for the young. What young do you refer to, the Youth Unemployed or the upper middle class youth? https://www.statista.com/statistics/...-eu-countries/ a few more years and they will realise the EU has delivered nothing.
this is not a problem from the EU - this is a problem of the whole world and it will become worse. but i am sure britain will resolve it alone.
british pakistanis will be glad to help you teaching your kids how to make carpets.

deep inside I was willing to believe that you are not that dumb in real as you show here every fucking day. I thought in the beginning you're just acting stupid to kid all of us. but you prove again and again the hard fact that you are simply stupid.

MaDalton 04-12-2019 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22450571)
Bullshit.

A deal has been negotiated for two years and been accepted - the problem is that the DUP and enough Tories do not accept the Irish back stop. And the EU rightfully doesn't give up on that.

So, Paul, what is your solution to that?

I have asked you repeatedly and you never answered it.

every time I ask this question these threads die...

thommy 04-12-2019 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22450708)
every time I ask this question these threads die...

he gives a shit on the problems between northern ireland and ireland.

he is anyway in CZ and will not be effected in any way by a border.

the U in UK is less worth than the U in EU.

thatsīwhy these people donīt feel well in any union because it means for them that all have to do what they want.

they are using the word democracy but meant is dictatorship.
but ONLY when THEY are the dictators.

the only way out is to send them back to school or wait til they are sharing their thoughts with the earthworms.

Sarn 04-12-2019 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22450726)
he gives a shit on the problems between northern ireland and ireland...

:1orglaugh

Bladewire 04-12-2019 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22450571)
Bullshit.

A deal has been negotiated for two years and been accepted - the problem is that the DUP and enough Tories do not accept the Irish back stop. And the EU rightfully doesn't give up on that.

So, Paul, what is your solution to that?

I have asked you repeatedly and you never answered it.

Paul doesn't answer tough questions that require knowledge.

You could you give Paul a bit of knowledge today and ask him to remember it and a week from now he'll claim he doesn't know what you're talkin about.

thommy 04-12-2019 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22450741)
:1orglaugh

Sparta has gone more than 2200 years ago.
kicked ass by the Achaian League - one of the first big unions.

keep on dreaming!

klinton 04-12-2019 11:29 AM

150 Germans worried by Brexit + 1 drunk Ruskie on his shift

Sarn 04-12-2019 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22450748)
Sparta has gone more than 2200 years ago.
kicked ass by the Achaian League - one of the first big unions.

keep on dreaming!

Sparta destroy the Achaian League with help Rome



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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22450824)
150 Germans worried by Brexit + 1 drunk Ruskie on his shift

Time for Poland stay independent :)

MaDalton 04-12-2019 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22450824)
150 Germans worried by Brexit + 1 drunk Ruskie on his shift

I put drunk russki on ignore, that was kind of relieving

and why do i care about Brexit?

Because I do like the UK and I hate that a few criminal liars have tricked so many into believing the bullshit that made them think the EU is such a huge burden on them

Reminder: the UK net contribution to the EU is 1.25% of their annual GDP.

And almost none of the actual problems the UK has, is in any way based on the fact that they are member of the EU.

CaptainHowdy 04-12-2019 01:31 PM

Paul is the very (award winning) best . . .

pimpmaster9000 04-12-2019 01:34 PM

The brexit magic beans did not grow doooo daaa dooo daaaa
Pauls meager pension is about to shrink da da doooo daaaa day!

Sarn 04-12-2019 01:39 PM

Donald Trump defends UK and warns 'brutal' EU on Brexit - ‘It all comes back to bite you'
https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...e-50-extension

Struggle4Bucks 04-12-2019 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22450998)
Donald Trump defends UK and warns 'brutal' EU on Brexit - ‘It all comes back to bite you'
https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...e-50-extension

:1orglaugh Owh how selective :1orglaugh So now Trump is someone to recognize… Tomorrow you think it's an idiot again!:1orglaugh

The EU is rreally really scared now!

klinton 04-12-2019 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22450950)
and why do i care about Brexit?

Because I do like the UK and I hate that a few criminal liars have tricked so many into believing the bullshit that made them think the EU is such a huge burden on them

Reminder: the UK net contribution to the EU is 1.25% of their annual GDP.

And almost none of the actual problems the UK has, is in any way based on the fact that they are member of the EU.

If you really like someone, then you set him free :o. You allow him to make any decision he wants, and later maybe, if you still like him, welcome him back, like lost son. If he will want it of course...

And what I saw from EU side (at the begining at least) was the urge to "punish" UK and "set them" as an example...I dont think that this is what real gentlemen/ friends clubs do. Sounded more like thug/ mafia style clubs.

Nonethless, before they leave they should pay what is genuinely owed to EU..

"And almost none of the actual problems the UK has, is in any way based on the fact that they are member of the EU."
well actually I could find few ones. First one that comes to my mind - hordes of emigrants from Eastern / Central Europe (including Poland) f.. up their real estate market even more than it was f... before. From the renters (especially) /buyers (less) point of view of course.
I think that UK is too big country to lose a lot during Brexit. They will be fine, somehow. Maybe not at the beginning but after 5-10 years. Maybe they will even improve.

"I hate that a few criminal liars have tricked so many into believing the bullshit" - unfortunately this is the dark side of democracy, and your country before was the best example for that - how it can easily be ruined by band of criminals that know how to exploit supportive "ground" of its times.
how can you have good democracy btw if most of the people/voters have troubles with comprehending information and critical reception of it ?

klinton 04-12-2019 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 22451014)
:1orglaugh Owh how selective :1orglaugh

its a typical Ruskie style.
This + silence when faced with really disturbing question.
+ classical confusion of the facts and mixing them with some emotional semi- truths.

Imagine how they dont give a shit about this forum if they sent someone that barely speaks English and even pay him for that :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
HUGE disrespect.

Sarn 04-13-2019 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22450950)
I put drunk russki on ignore, that was kind of relieving

Twelve years ago, Russians consumed roughly 15 litres of alcohol per person a year, which put them in fourth in the world rankings of the hardest-drinking countries. Now, in Russia, the per capita average is closer to 10 litres. (By comparison, Canada drinks eight litres per capita per year.)
Russia now ranks 14th in terms of alcohol consumption globally, and is comparable to France and Germany.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/russia...king-1.4949099

https://www.alcohol.org/guides/globa...-demographics/
https://www.alcohol.org/app/uploads/...6/asset1-2.png
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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22451183)
its a typical Ruskie style.
This + silence when faced with really disturbing question.
+ classical confusion of the facts and mixing them with some emotional semi- truths.

Imagine how they dont give a shit about this forum if they sent someone that barely speaks English and even pay him for that :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
HUGE disrespect.
https://ki.ill.in.ua/m/670x450/24318535.jpg

:)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 22451014)
:1orglaugh Owh how selective :1orglaugh So now Trump is someone to recognize… Tomorrow you think it's an idiot again!:1orglaugh

The EU is rreally really scared now!

Why selective? Another side :1orglaugh


Exclusive: EU tariffs to target 20 billion euros of U.S. imports - diplomats
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-us...-idUKKCN1RO1VO

MaDalton 04-13-2019 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22451181)
If you really like someone, then you set him free :o. You allow him to make any decision he wants, and later maybe, if you still like him, welcome him back, like lost son. If he will want it of course...

And what I saw from EU side (at the begining at least) was the urge to "punish" UK and "set them" as an example...I dont think that this is what real gentlemen/ friends clubs do. Sounded more like thug/ mafia style clubs.

Nonethless, before they leave they should pay what is genuinely owed to EU..

"And almost none of the actual problems the UK has, is in any way based on the fact that they are member of the EU."
well actually I could find few ones. First one that comes to my mind - hordes of emigrants from Eastern / Central Europe (including Poland) f.. up their real estate market even more than it was f... before. From the renters (especially) /buyers (less) point of view of course.
I think that UK is too big country to lose a lot during Brexit. They will be fine, somehow. Maybe not at the beginning but after 5-10 years. Maybe they will even improve.

"I hate that a few criminal liars have tricked so many into believing the bullshit" - unfortunately this is the dark side of democracy, and your country before was the best example for that - how it can easily be ruined by band of criminals that know how to exploit supportive "ground" of its times.
how can you have good democracy btw if most of the people/voters have troubles with comprehending information and critical reception of it ?

well, I said it before on here, I want them to leave now.

because otherwise they will cry forever how it was the EUs fault they couldn't leave, even though voting a hundred times in their own parliament never brought a majority for anything. But just like with all the other crap - blaming the EU is much easier.

and just two things in regards to the other points you made:

it was the UK government that allowed Poles, Czechs etc to migrate immediately after they joined the EU, other countries (like Germany) restricted it

Quote:

United Kingdom: Welfare restrictions only, need to register though. This decision was controversial: politicians later admitted that they had only decided against barring freedom of movement under the assumption that all of the other EU countries would make the same decision: in fact only Ireland and Sweden followed suit. This decision led to a rise of anti-migrant sentiment, and is credited with inspiring Brexit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_e...European_Union

Once again - UK politicians are to blame, not the EU.

And in regards to the housing market:

https://www.theguardian.com/news/201...ts-dirty-money

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/b...-a8274106.html

If you let Russians, Chinese and Arabs buy themselves into your country and help them to hide their money which then drives up property prices - how is this the fault of the EU and not your own governments fault?

There is plenty of crap that the EU is to blame for but I would prefer we concentrate on that and try to solve it.

But you can't solve things on EU level that do not fall under EU competency.

And yet that is exactly what people like Markham think (have been made to think) - that they are powerless under EU rule.

Which is nonsense once you look closer.

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