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Cruci and his shit country will be fine in the EU. They will get billions from the richer nations, workers can migrate to places of higher wages and put native workers out of a job and get jobs from companies relocating for cheaper labour.

That was pre-Common Market and the improvement in living standards is due to the Trade Deal. The British were never given a vote on whether it wanted to join the EU, until now and they voted NO. So get over it.

Today things are different.





Now let me explain why it's so bad for the British.

Freedom of movement has led to a huge influx of EU cheap labour, taking jobs and lowering wages. This puts tremendous pressure on the welfare system. Don't tell me non-EU migrants were more recently. They're regulated and it's recent. They also don't qualify for benefits.

Companies have moved to Eastern Europe to enjoy the lower wage and running costs. Also they get financial help from the richer countries. Again destroying jobs, wages and tax revenue for the richer countries.

£350 million a day goes into the EU, any money the UK gets back theEU controls how it's spent.

Globalisation has decimated the manufacturing industries in the West and the EU does little to protect EU jobs, wages and tax revenues.

If the EU is so great, why not hold a referendum country by country and allow those who want out to leave with a trade deal? The deal that was in place with the Common Market.

Well let me explain it to you then.

Moving money from A to B only works for B. Also if companies are moving to enjoy cheap labour, the money transferred is less when it lands in B. Saving companies a lot of money. Then the people of A don't just disappear. They're left looking for work, getting lower wages and many relying on welfare.

Even worse is the loss of revenue from the companies. Businesses pay a lot in taxes, via the workers, health insurance, building taxes, fuel, corporation taxes, etc. To lose all that money devastates tax revenue at a time when extra pressure is put on it.

Let this educate you. https://www.google.com/search?source...._ IIX_XSGs1g

here's what the dude thinks what will save Germany and the western world - Beatrix von Storch :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :error

https://image.stern.de/7517856/16x9-...von-storch.jpg

of course she's not a nazi because her grandfather was a nazi - she's just a piece of shit that first posts how she would have no problem to shoot women and children and then tried to excuse herself by saying she slipped with the mouse (no kidding).

of course lowlifes attract other lowlifes - hence that party has become an assembly of human feces and all the half way reasonable people who once started it under a completely different pretense have left by now.

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you should better care about all the workers from UK that can not go into the EU anymore to find a job.

UK was it that killed the industry there -NOT the EU.

UK gave a shit on industry production and education of high skilled workers because they wanted to be the financial services capital of the world and thought that nothsea oil will go to 500 dollar per barrel.

where are the financial services now?
fleeing to frankfurt and amsterdam to deal with the EU and to new york to deal with the rest of the world.

tell me in WHAT can UK compete with the rest of the world ?

french fries with vinegar ?

i will tell you what the competition will be after brexit:

it will be a tax oasis that is not producing ANYTHING and it will be a paradise for the upper 10.000. it will be like cyprus that have more companies located there as the complete rest of the EU and where the average monthly income is 1000 euros.

THIS is the future of the UK.

Dear Paul, I have a Bachelor degree in business management and had to do courses also in national economics for that.

You dropped out of school at 13 and can't even correctly write "should have" in your own language.

I am always happy to learn new things, also from you when it comes to producing porn (at least back in 2003), but other than that you have proven repeatedly that you have no clue what you are talking about.

Enjoy your day, it's great weather, go outside.

one last thing - it has been already debunked that it is 350 million a week (even by your hero Nigel Farage) - now you claim it's 350 million a day?

i have written like 5 times now that the net contribution to the EU for the UK is 1.25% of the UKs annual total budget.

that's all the brexit people have: lies and deception

if everyone would have been honest from the start - about all the good but also the bad - it would not have come so far.

this is exactly the problem with people that talk about something that they have never learned or understand the logic.

i mean what a fuck people like you and me went to university and studied that shit when someone who left school with 13 (obviously because he knew all and they let him go) know everything better than one who have spend YEARS in understanding it and proved it with diplomas?

this is why trump is so popular within this creatures because he also talk shit the whole day no matter if he knows or not.
did you see the twitter post how he wanted to enlighten the french how to put out a fire in a 1000 year old building?

i would not wonder if he twitters tomorrow how to enjoy pushing contractions on the birth process.

take all of them on a table - don´t give them access to internet and just talk with them. then you see clearly that they have nothing but hot air at the place where normal people have a brain.

we will not get billions, the EU and USA took billions from us with crippling sanctions and loan shark loans right after the destruction of our economy...you are gangsters and I hope we develop a weapon to keep you out....fuck your aid, fuck your values...you are the shit ones :thumbsup

Why won't skilled British workers or self employed get or need Visas? Isn't that cuttingyour nose to spite your face?

Industry isn't dead in the UK.

How can NY, Singapore, Hong Kong, etc financial services do business in the EU and London can't?

The EU needs to be able to do business with the UK to save millions of jobs. You talk a lot of bollox.

Now explain how everyone will be a new elite.

Then explain to everyone here how it works and how companies moving production don't do it to cut costs.

Whoops I made a typing error. Shoot me.

And countries like Czech get given money, that's unfair.

The 1.25 does that include the cost of welfare, unemployment, extra housing, healthcare, education, prisons etc? Or not?

So explain it to everyone here. Because the reality is very different fort hose at the bottom, or are they part of your new elite? :1orglaugh

https://www.google.com/search?ei=Fvi...75.Mut2tZfuWNo

Paul markhaming...moving production to cheap countries to cut costs and then being a fucking hypocrite about it LOL!

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...-eu-countries/

Doesn't need a Bachelor's degree to see that your figure of 5% was wrong or is it a Bachelor degree for bullshit. 14.9% for the EU.

what "skilled" british workes you are talking about - you don´t have any.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...rkers-britain/

i think the problem is not for those to find work in the EU - the problem is that britain have a BIG problem to find workers.

look here

and this with a number of emplyed persons that britain NEVER had before

look here

no ? how comes that the industry part of the GDP is only 9,4% and gives work for 8% of all workers?

all offshore paradises - that´s what britain will try to be soon.but the americans will not let you do - the asians will not let you do and the europeans you did not want.

you think 60 million can shoulder that problem but 500 million will not?

from who do you think will the rest of the world buy when they can chose between a SELLING market of 60 and 500 million.
and WHAT shall they buy from britain. with what kind of price you can compete when your productivity is in average so much lower as in US and the EU ?

and how can your national gross product grow when all the highpaid workers that come mainly from the financial sector are gone.

WHO buys than the Jaguars ? the farmers that voted for the brexit?

after the brexit britain will even rely MORE on the export as now.
but you have left the biggest trading community in the world because you think you can do better. good luck !

everyone EXCEPT YOU !!!!

To think that Paul does not even use 98.75% of his brain capacity. Can you imagine if he starts to use more then 1.25%?
Or am i mixing percentages up now? All the numbers in this thread..... pfffffff

i think he is even using 100% - the problem is at the brainsize 100% from nothing is....let me get my calculator......

if you tape a camera to a monkey and press record, the monkey would make better scenes than paul...pauls superpower is sucking balls at absolutely everything :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

LOL!!!

You are right now I remember: The net contribution to the EU for the UK is 1.25% of UK’s annual total budget.

Its so easy to mix these numbers up.

Just a proof of your narrowed feminized mind agreeing on anything the established media and politics are telling you.

AFD is the only opposition in Germany, Afd exists for a reason, reasons the rest of the political parties doesn't deal with. It's very simple.

brexit magic beans did not grow :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Nope... Paul tried to moisten the bean field with flying water tankers...
Destroyed the field! No beans this year!:Oh crap

good action for destroying the middle class, exeption worker class.
local workers, it main patriotic army power

The UK will issue work visas for EU skilled workers. The benefit of leaving is they are now freer to issue them to non-EU workers.



Let me explain what dead means. It would have to be at 0% to be dead. Did your economics degree leave that part out.



So why do does Europe need to ruled from the centre? You're quoting the benefits of the Common Market. If all EU countries were given the option of going back to the Common Market or stay in the EU. The EU is finished.

Give us reasons for the EU, not reasons for a trade deal within Europe.

Do you suffer from selective opportunistic babblings or do you agree paysites are not dead??????????????????????????????

Should the people vote to destroy the EU from within?
 

Should the people vote to destroy the EU from within?

As we can see the two Germans on the board are against democracy within the EU. They continually come up with reasons for a good trade deal between European countries and little else. Even Stefan's reasons are pretty insignificant against the fuck ups the EU bureaucrats keep making.

Euro
CAP
Freedom of movement.
Illegal immigration.
Eurozone Growth
Unemployment
https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/2...kes-of-the-eu/

https://www.cer.eu/insights/eu-must-...er-past-decade

This is the quality of the people the EU have to rule a Union of countries so diverse it's impossible to come up with any law that suits everyone.

When you examine the list of Eurozone countries you see how inept these leaders are. Decisions driven by economics and sound monetary policies were thrown out to give it to anyone who asked. Then when central controller on spending and borrowing against the Euro, that was ignored. To their peril.

Even the enlargement of the EU is driven by sentiment rather than sound economic reasons. Allowing countries like Bulgaria, Romania, Croatia, Malta, Cyprus, etc into the the EU achieved nothing. Giving them voting rights in a parliament is a recipe for disaster. All avoidable with just a trade deal.

So where are the reasons to continue down the road to Centralist rule?

Thommy still waiting for you to explain how everyone will be elite in your new world.

Explaining it is crucial if you want to be taken seriously.

maybe dumbass paul should explain why the magic beans aint growin'?

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-br...-idUKKCN1RT1HM

https://www.politico.eu/article/parl...on-projection/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...ean-elections/


Will the undemocratic EU allow the people to destroy it?

you bore me to death.

no matter what I or other people, (that have spent many years learning what they are talking about) tells you - you don't understand.

you may still be alive - which I am really happy about - but your brain has probably already crossed the rainbow bridge during the birth process.

honestly, i personally don't see you as one at the lowest moral level. i even believe that you are firmly convinced that your recipes serve the good of mankind.

however, your intelligence level is at a really frightening level. i really wonder how you manage to turn on the computer without outside help.

if unworldliness, uneducation, ignorance and unprofessionality need a common name at some point, they should take yours.

Clearly Thommy believes he's part of the 1% elite, an arrogant clueless dipshit unable to think outside his own bubble. :1orglaugh

https://i.imgflip.com/do61c.jpg?a432096

Oh thommy, This week I convinced two more Germans to vote AFD in EU election. Good stuff.

maybe dumbass paul should explain why the brexit magic beans aint growing? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

There where many bankers with big university degrees, 99% didn't see the crisis coming. Many of those well educated people didn't also see Trump winning the elections. There is a good movie about that where 1 man went short on the housing market, he found out the problem before the crash.

Last time the dream of a 1 big Europe collapsed also cause there where some countries (1 to be exact), that wanted to rule everyone and dictate how to live and kill the people who rejected that view. You see the same happening again, not much killing yet though. But that can change when politicans get murdered. We must see if the bullet comes from the left or the right.

https://i.imgur.com/NPXS9i3.jpg



Debate the points raised in the video.

Every reason you've come up for the EU to be ruled by a centralist group dominated by small group of people I've countered with good reasons for not rule by a centralist group. So you resort to insults. Now tell me how the populist movement is anti-democratic.

this is completely wrong - they all knew it but played the game as long it worked.

all and everything in the EU is decided by votes.
tell me wich decision was not based on a vote.

and yes - every voting system have the problem that there will always be a minoroity that does not get it the way they want.
i think they call that DEMOCRACY

His wife turns the computer on every morning before she leaves for work.