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Struggle4Bucks 04-19-2019 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22455024)
Every reason you've come up for the EU to be ruled by a centralist group dominated by small group of people I've countered with good reasons for not rule by a centralist group.

Simply not true! Its the other way around: Thommy completely destroyed all your arguments!!!!

Sarn 04-19-2019 08:28 AM

Ukraine will be in EU.)) Who will pay them?))

Sarn 04-19-2019 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22455031)
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i think they call that DEMOCRACY

Brexit it was a democracy. Peoples want to leave. You do not care about them - they not care about your EU. Tommy it easy for understanding))

Tasty1 04-19-2019 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22455031)
this is completely wrong - they all knew it but played the game as long it worked.



all and everything in the EU is decided by votes.
tell me wich decision was not based on a vote.

and yes - every voting system have the problem that there will always be a minoroity that does not get it the way they want.
i think they call that DEMOCRACY

So all bankers went short and became rich, if they knew. They have the knowledge how they could profit, but only a handfull did.


There was never a vote that the EU would become a political union with so many influence. Now you vote for a party in Holland that will sent a person to the EU. There they must work together with other EU parties to get a majority. So you vote CDA in Holland, but realy profiting is bunga bunga party Berlusconi who is in that same group.

I just have a question. Without looking it up, what are the biggest EU parties and what German parties are connected to what EU party?.... That are the people ruling us.

We had a 'referendum' twice in Holland. The politicians asked a question, the people answered and the politicans ignored it twice cause the outcome didn't fit. So the completely banned referenda now. Better not let people vote to many times… too much democracy. just like in England.

klinton 04-19-2019 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 (Post 22455146)
We had a 'referendum' twice in Holland. The politicians asked a question, the people answered and the politicans ignored it twice cause the outcome didn't fit. So the completely banned referenda now. Better not let people vote to many times… too much democracy.

:helpme:helpme:helpme:helpme:helpme:helpme:helpme
lol lol lol this is just ridiculous, if it wouldnt be so sad......

Struggle4Bucks 04-19-2019 03:34 PM

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Paul Markham 04-20-2019 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22455031)
this is completely wrong - they all knew it but played the game as long it worked.



all and everything in the EU is decided by votes.
tell me wich decision was not based on a vote.

and yes - every voting system have the problem that there will always be a minoroity that does not get it the way they want.
i think they call that DEMOCRACY

Again you show how foolish you are.

I've consistently said the most intelligent are not in politics of bureaucrats. They didn't see the crash coming, not in America, EU, UK, Iceland or anywhere. The bankers did and knew they were too big to fail and would get bailed out by the people. Not the politician, bureaucrats or banks. So why do you claim the EU is led by superior thinkers? The evidence shows NO.

Sarn 04-20-2019 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 (Post 22455146)
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We had a 'referendum' twice in Holland. The politicians asked a question, the people answered and the politicans ignored it twice cause the outcome didn't fit. So the completely banned referenda now. Better not let people vote to many times… too much democracy. just like in England.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh so progressive so tolerant so european
democracy and freedom :1orglaugh

Sarn 04-20-2019 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 22455384)

:thumbsup :1orglaugh exactly

pimpmaster9000 04-20-2019 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22455591)
. So why do you claim the EU is led by superior thinkers? The evidence shows NO.

paul should explain to everybody why his brexit magic beans are not growing

https://media.giphy.com/media/kKdgdeuO2M08M/giphy.gif

pimpmaster9000 04-20-2019 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22455608)
paul should explain to everybody why his brexit magic beans are not growing

https://media.giphy.com/media/kKdgdeuO2M08M/giphy.gif

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Paul Markham 04-20-2019 10:07 AM

https://gfy.com/22455812-post43.html

thommy 04-20-2019 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22455591)
Again you show how foolish you are.

I've consistently said the most intelligent are not in politics of bureaucrats. They didn't see the crash coming, not in America, EU, UK, Iceland or anywhere. The bankers did and knew they were too big to fail and would get bailed out by the people. Not the politician, bureaucrats or banks. So why do you claim the EU is led by superior thinkers? The evidence shows NO.

so you mean the most intelligent are the people out there???

ok so what about this?


https://whatukthinks.org/eu/question...ould-you-vote/


38% pro brexit - now explain me WICH people you are referring to when you talk about the will of the people ?

if there is another referendum and it goes in the other direction, will you fight for the will of the people also ?

i doubt it because you arenīt a person that accepts democracy. you are just like the other right wing assholes that want to USE democracy with the goal to destroy it.

unfortunately you do not realize that in this world of your dreams dumbs are the last ones that will profit - you are just cannon fodder for those that easy brainwash you.

Sarn 04-20-2019 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22455825)
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i doubt it because you arenīt a person that accepts democracy. you are just like the other right wing assholes that want to USE democracy with the goal to destroy it.

unfortunately you do not realize that in this world of your dreams dumbs are the last ones that will profit - you are just cannon fodder for those that easy brainwash you.

in the end, Tommy said - democracy it is bad because people choose not right guys, not from his destructive liberal sect

thommy 04-20-2019 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22455901)
in the end, Tommy said - democracy it is bad because people choose not right guys, not from his destructive liberal sect

you should maybe read what i said and not try to interpret what i said.
these are just simple and very easy to understand words. nobody is that dumb to need a translation from a vodka addicted russian that glorifies nazi ideology.

Paul Markham 04-21-2019 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22455825)
so you mean the most intelligent are the people out there???

ok so what about this?


https://whatukthinks.org/eu/question...ould-you-vote/


38% pro brexit - now explain me WICH people you are referring to when you talk about the will of the people ?

if there is another referendum and it goes in the other direction, will you fight for the will of the people also ?

i doubt it because you arenīt a person that accepts democracy. you are just like the other right wing assholes that want to USE democracy with the goal to destroy it.

unfortunately you do not realize that in this world of your dreams dumbs are the last ones that will profit - you are just cannon fodder for those that easy brainwash you.

If you would have been as intelligent as you claim. You would have noticed the Thread title and my consistent stance through this thread. It's to stay in the EU and destroy it from within.

Proof you're not as bright as you claim.

If as this video claims MEPs are not as powerful as we are led to believe, then the EU isn't democratic.

You just can't win can you? Try picking on someone with the same level of intelligence as you. You'll find them in kindergartens.

Paul Markham 04-21-2019 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22455907)
you should maybe read what i said and not try to interpret what i said.
these are just simple and very easy to understand words. nobody is that dumb to need a translation from a vodka addicted russian that glorifies nazi ideology.

So if the Right Wing make significant advances in the coming election, you will support their cause.

pimpmaster9000 04-21-2019 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22455608)
paul should explain to everybody why his brexit magic beans are not growing

https://media.giphy.com/media/kKdgdeuO2M08M/giphy.gif

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

DraX 05-06-2019 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22448003)
sorry but those things are just happening in your head, I have only stated poll numbers that contradict Markhams ramblings.

But: I would vote Green anyday over any right wing party. Because I rather hang out with a bunch of hippies than a bunch of nazis.

but maybe that's just me.

Perhabs that is more fitting your kind who has no principles whatsoever.

I guess you rather hang out with hippies like Daniel Cohn-Bendit who resides within the green party in Germany and also has a spot in the EU parliament and friend with Guy Verhofstadt.

What he said in a tv-show many years ago would ruin most politicians:



Just want to emphasize the fact that this is a youtube accepted video and nothing illegal.

Paul Markham 05-07-2019 03:00 AM

Voting for parties that will cripple the EU and do away with the Centralist power groups is essential if you want to keep your democratic rights.

The #1 essential element of the EU is a trade deal between European nations, that was in place before the creation of the EU and destroying the EU will not destroy the trade deal.

thommy 05-07-2019 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22465227)
Voting for parties that will cripple the EU and do away with the Centralist power groups is essential if you want to keep your democratic rights.

The #1 essential element of the EU is a trade deal between European nations, that was in place before the creation of the EU and destroying the EU will not destroy the trade deal.

why donīt you invite some al kaida terrorists to your birthday party ?

you are such a fool !


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