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wankawonk 04-15-2019 11:06 AM

Keto is a great way to LOSE weight, for a simple reason:

Your body burns free carbs first, then switches to fat reserves. "keto" is the state, of burning fat reserves.

When your body switches from carbs to fat, it makes you feel very hungry for a little while (30 minutes to a few hours). Think about how a few hours after breakfast, you will feel very hungry for a little while...but if you don't eat, it passes.

That's your body switching to burning fat. Once the switch is made, you feel fine. But during the switch, you feel very hungry.

So, keto is fantastic psychologically for losing weight--you never go through the hunger-inducing switch from free carbs to fats. So you end up eating less, because you feel hungry less often.

As a long-term solution, keto is terrible. It's hard on your body. If you want to be healthy long term, you eat a good mix of unsaturated fats, complex carbs, and complete proteins. It's really very simple.

CaptainHowdy 04-15-2019 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22452552)
maybe you are just projecting what you want to see instead? not all runners look like marathon champions. get out more...

I just like my advice with a hint of provocation (or "edge" if you prefer it).

When I'm out on my kantian stroll, and at a certain distance, I can't tell if it's a male or a female runner coming my way.

Kittens 04-15-2019 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22452551)
How is it possible that you are always wrong?

Keeping carbs in moderation to match activity keeps your body in a state of KETOSIS and keeps you lean. So you do 'keto' already you are just too stupid to realize it.

The fact you had ice cream the other day and don't have to worry about it is because you are (supposedly) low in body fat already and your metabolism allows for you to be able to balance that. Or even gives you the chance to get back into ketosis faster and helps you with muscle gains. where someone who is, even moderately, overweight would not have that same affect.

btw... get some calipers and throw away your dumb scale.. nobody walks around at 10%, especially not full time mirror watchers...

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Get 'em Glen.

bronco67 04-15-2019 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22452551)
How is it possible that you are always wrong?

Keeping carbs in moderation to match activity keeps your body in a state of KETOSIS and keeps you lean. So you do 'keto' already you are just too stupid to realize it.

The fact you had ice cream the other day and don't have to worry about it is because you are (supposedly) low in body fat already and your metabolism allows for you to be able to balance that. Or even gives you the chance to get back into ketosis faster and helps you with muscle gains. where someone who is, even moderately, overweight would not have that same affect.

btw... get some calipers and throw away your dumb scale.. nobody walks around at 10%, especially not full time mirror watchers...

I used to be into keto a few years ago so it's a subject I know about. Not because I read about it or watched a youtube video...but I was actually peeing on those little strips to check my state every day.

Carbs in moderation is not keto. Being in ketosis is keto. It takes a lot of work to get that pee strip all the way to deep purple.

and I do have calipers...but a tape measure at the waist always tells me where I am fat gain wise. It doesn't tell me a body fat number, but when my waist is 32 and I can see my iliac veins sharply, that means I'm 10% because I've had my BF professionally tested while in the same state.

I also don't walk around at 10% all year, but I spend a few months (during the warmer months) there.

But thanks for always being there to educate me, because you know everything and what the fuck do I know?...I've only been in great shape for several years straight.

Everything I post is based on empirical knowledge. I don't sit around spitting out science because in practice it never seems to pan out the way they say. All I can talk about is what I've experienced.

and when did I mention anything about a scale, other than saying don't use one? I didn't say that exactly, but I think watching your "weight" as a number is counterproductive. Keep your bullshit to yourself.

mce 04-15-2019 03:31 PM

I'm surprised at how resilient this lifestyle mod is

Cauliflower crust pizza anyone?


PR_Glen 04-16-2019 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by mce (Post 22450493)
I lost 28 pounds in 7 days on a Low Carb / High Fat diet...

Then I kept running into study reports like this https://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/...an-early-death

I've increased exercise but am at an impasse....

Should I ditch my KETOGENIC diet and just go PLANT BASED or WHOLE FOODS?

Here's Canada's version of the ideal meal plan (no influence from Food industry) https://food-guide.canada.ca/en/

Who to believe?

if you ditch something that is giving you this much progress because of a random news article i would suggest a therapist instead of rethinking your diet...

The ONLY reason keto gets a bad rap overall by mass markets is because it's unsustainable to the masses as a reasonable food source. In other words, if everyone ate only meat and vegetables our resources would run out and it would be impossible to compensate a mass amount of people living and eating this way. Wheat, starches and sugars can feed the masses by comparison.

Now, that being said, does that make those things healthier for you? No... but they will do all they can to provide you with circumstantial evidence and incomplete studies to talk you out of it. Sweden is one of the few countries who have actually admitted to its people the long known truth. that eating a carb heavy diet is detrimental to health and eating animal fats are not only healthy but down right essential. The growth of disease in older people in the past 30 or longer in western nations are due to them being given super low fat diets for prolonged periods of time. The ones who live at home and ignore those diets are the ones who keep their minds and tend to have less disease. It's simple as that. Does that mean you should start shovelling in the red meat and bacon?? No, that isn't really healthy either, but keto with responsible balance in both meats and vegetables can help with a lot of issues, not only just weight loss.

If you are really that concerned still just cycle off it for a few weeks and start up again. I have always found that changing things up from time to time gets better results long term anyway.

VRPdommy 04-16-2019 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mce (Post 22450505)
I'm feeling stronger than ever, Brosephus.

There's something about feeding your body off your FAT STORES that unleashes energy. Clean energy at that.

I missed this in my original read over.
You are correct. It seems when your body 'thinks' it is staving, it switches modes.
It will change the regulation of your metabolism and adrenaline.

OneHungLo 04-16-2019 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 22452562)
I just like my advice with a hint of provocation (or "edge" if you prefer it).

When I'm out on my kantian stroll, and at a certain distance, I can't tell if it's a male or a female runner coming my way.

Nah you're right. "Runners" in the sense that they run 5-7 miles a few times a week do have feminine looking bodies. They usually don't lift weights so they have toned legs and zero upper body muscle. Of course i'm not talking about the guy who casually runs 2-3 miles on off days.

mce 04-19-2019 01:57 AM

https://i.imgur.com/tPFugiF.jpg

bronco67 04-19-2019 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mce (Post 22454973)

The human body is amazing...and so is that transformation.

mce 04-19-2019 05:13 AM

Good news? Coke Zero doesn't throw you out of KETOSIS https://www.healthline.com/nutrition...sulin#section4


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