Except you never earned that "attitude" Rochard.

And I have been a person who has always changed and evolved.

But you are such a moron that you don't understand that talking to people who have NO business for me doesn't include "changing" and "evolving".
I already have billing. I already have hosting.

I already monetize what I do in every conceivable way. And just who the fuck do YOU think is going to tell ME how to do things???
Jesus you are fucking dense.

Is someone there going to teach me how to use my camera? How to set up my lights? My storylines?
I'm fucking successful with all of that already.

And again: THERE WERE NO PORN PEOPLE THERE ROCHARD.

Just billers, hosting, and webcam people. I got all that covered already.

It's not a point of being a "Know it all". It's a point of being really good at what I do and there being nobody there to make money with for being an actual pornographer.

Your company tries to sell people on emailing. How did that go? Did you do a lot of new business and make money? If so...with WHO???
Who among hosting companies and billing companies and webcam girls needed YNOT's email service?

Anybody new?

Well...for me, there is NOBODY left at the shows to make money with. No porn companies were there. No porn models were there (just cam girls) to shoot content with.

As for you...just make sure to continue to stay away from me. I have nothing to ever say to you.

You film your wife getting fucked and put it on the internet for money. I've seen escort ads for your wife! If your wife left you you'd be fucked! Some evolution there!

That's STILL your business model after all these years.

Guess what.... Your wife is not getting any younger. Your business model needs to change, and it won't, because in all these years you still haven't evolved. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Rochard has EVOLVED he has a successful brick and mortar business, in addition to porn work, unlike you. I'm not hating on you I'm just being honest with you okay? None of us are getting any younger. Dealing with reality now will help you in the long-term.

That sounded a tad puritanical . . .

You are judgemental :P

Escorting and having your wife work in porn is not the issue.

The issue is she is getting older, she's in her 50s now. She can't be very profitable as content in the adult industry much longer. That was my point.

This is nothing against Robbie or his wife at all.

This is about us all getting older and having to adapt to a changing industry, our age when we're part of the content, technology, etc.

That's because he isn't a pornographer. He has no idea what I've done in my career in the adult industry either.

Hell, people who know me know that I have done very well with Claudia Marie's site. But I made even MORE money in adult during the 11 years prior to opening her site in 2007.

How the fuck these discussions turn into attacks on individuals never ceases to amaze me.

I pointed out the fact that the shows no longer have pornographers. Hell, there weren't any porn company's that produce porn even in attendance at the TPF this year.
Again, not CC Bill's fault.

It's just the state of the industry. The show had no purpose for me. Especially when I compare the amazing business that I used to do there back in the 2000's when the place was jumping with affiliates, paysite owners, and talent to shoot.

I'm sure that maybe there was some biz there for billing and hosting and webcams. But nothing for me.

Somehow...that gets Rochard telling ME that I don't know what I'm talking about.
No idea why.
But his statement about me being a "know it all" and needing to "evolve" and "change" was just pure ignorance.

Why are you lying?

I've been filming content for 20 years for my own websites, which I run myself, and have run for 20 years.

I've had my sites with CCBill since 2005 & I currently have multiple merchant accounts.

Why are you lying about me? When it's so easy to prove you wrong?

I told the truth about you to help you.

You lie about me to try and hurt me (fail)

What does that say about you?

You make the first attack on an individual in this thread and then you complain about threads turning into attacks on individuals.

You ok?

they will be back

Indeed.

I met quite a few people, gosh, 15 years ago? that I still do business with today.

never went... never planned on going. skype, text, email and icq(stopped working have 2 fix) work fine

Robbie nailed it.

Japanese Yen?

And I am one of them that met you back in 04.. and now I host with you. :thumbsup

And I stand behind what Rochard said about helping fellow webmasters. I remember hanging out with a guy from metart that gave me solid advice about billing practices that helped me greatly.

Looks like we got explanation why bladewire is "bladewire" :1orglaugh

I'M TALKING ABOUT THE INDUSTRY AS A WHOLE. Not a small operator picking up the dumped sites and making peanuts, yes peanuts whatever you say.

Sending traffic isn't sharing tips of how to do business. Did I ever teach other content producers how or what to shoot and where to sell? No because giving out those sort of tips only helps them compete with me.

Offering people who have given up on their sites a way of making a little bit of money isn't rocket science. The proof in your success would be you paying a good price for sites having new content shot and lots of affiliates singing your praise. Not you saying you make millions.

Dating isn't really porn. It's a mainstream way of couples meeting. You singing it's praise only confirms the fact the porn industry has declined. The fact that affiliates are turning to porn is more proof the porn industry is in decline.

The porn industry, that's producing and selling porn, was dealt a terrible blow when BW dropped to a price so low giving porn away to sell ad space was made profitable. Ever since then is has continued to shrink.

Bit players telling us how many millions they make isn't going to change the fact. The demise of the boards, shows, affiliate programs not paying, content producers, designers and every other aspect that made a living off producing porn proves me right.

The only way porn can be revived is the cost of BW going back to 2005 levels, then over night you will see sites popping up.

That's realistic as expecting people to start buying magazines again :1orglaugh

I understand that, but without BW going back to a level where giving porn away for free isn't profitable. The porn industry will continue to decline.

Web Camming has taken over as the #1 sector of the porn industry. 100s of sites, 10,000s of girls, but does it have 10,000s of affiliates earning their living from promoting Cam Girls?

Where are the Cam Sites promoting themselves, where are the cam girls, where are the affiliates? The industry has changed a lot in the last ten years, the need to network with fellow professionals in person is disappearing. It's easier and cheaper to contact each other online. It's easier and cheaper to buy traffic if what you have is good enough and if it isn't no one will buy no matter how friendly they are at a show.

Also the large companies are taking over and don't need the independents as much as they used to. Dating is going that way and I predict in the next 5 years most Dating Sites will decline, the days of Tindr and Grinder are here. And the need to fill out a long complicated form are over. No one knows anyone profiles when they walk up to them in a bar, today Social Media tells you all you need to know.

Adapt of Die.

There is facebook offering dating as well.

Haha Paul you continue to assume no one makes any money in this business. Or those that do we are making "peanuts". Paul, a couple facts here:

1. YOU never made a high six figure income in your entire life as a pornographer. EVER.
2. You never generated millions of dollars in revenue ONLINE. Ever.
3. The "peanuts" I make that you disparage would allow you to live like a King in the Czech Republic dude.
4. If you were such a Baller "back in the day" then you would not have retired to a 3rd world country and live off the dole (and the generosity of your Czech wife).
5. You cannot do basic math (obviously) since you cannot divide "millions" by 10 years in this Industry.

What do you get out of constantly crying that Adult is dead? Does it make you feel better about you life choices and how you missed the boat during the "Golden Age" of online porn? Sad really.

GET OFF MY LAWN YOU CRAZY PORNOGRAPHERS!!! LOL

Paul gonna keep waiting around for bandwidth prices to drop so the magic join links on his cookie cutter sites will work again.

Meanwhile, them girls he was touching all weirdly are probably on the tubes and social media doing numbers on their own with no useless middle-men (big pun)... with no weird dudes touching them for gfy fame anymore, etc.

Adapt "of" die!

Yeah i think i need to correct your "3rd world country" claim, as CZ is currently country with least unemployed on world, something what even Germans couldn't beat. And cost of living is rising by every year due huge immigrant flow,unless you live in village like Paul do :1orglaugh

I said your sites make peanuts, I'm sure there are other sites making money. The reasons I gave are there to see, I will repeat them.

You're not buying up sites. You're not commissioning good new content, no affiliates are here singing your praises, you pick up old for revenue share deals or pennies on the dollar prices.

$200,000 a year would be a good living in the porn industry today. I still don't think you make that much. 10 x $200,000 = $2,000,000 which will just put you into the "millions" category.

I have never said porn is dead. It's still very much alive and today there are 100,000s of millions consuming it for free on sites like these.

https://www.xvideos.com/channels/porn-nerd-asia

https://www.fux.com/channels/porn-nerd-asia

And numerous other Tubes where your content is free.

You took this as a personal dig at you, it was a comment on the industry as a whole. You cannot even claim to know the know the state of the industry before free porn became an option, I do.

Yes, more evidence that Dating is a mainstream industry.

Does Mojohost rely on the porn industry for the significant part of it's income?

Here we go...

So now you move the bar for those of us left in the industry that you say is impossible to survive :1orglaugh

"Bit players" today are those making millions, something you yourself never did.

Are you sure about?

A quick look at your website tells me you are missing a huge step in capturing lost sales from people who visit your site but don't sign up? Too bad you didn't go to Phoenix Forum and sit in on a seminar where this was discussed.

Dating isn't really porn?

When I was at Dating Factory one of my biggest affiliates ran a pegging site.

Sad state of affairs with him & his sites.

He clearly has no 5 year plan either. He's going to become even more moody, erratic & irrational as the reality of old age comes knocking harder on his door.

I am not telling you that you don't know what you are talking about. I am trying to explain to you that ALL of us, no matter how much of an expert we think we are, have room to grow, learn, and improve.

Robbie, I am fifty years old. I am taking a "leadership" class. I thought to myself I didn't need to take it... I was a combat instructor in the Marines; I had hundreds of Marines who took orders from me. I worked at the phone company and I had two hundred and fifty employee who reported to me. When I was at Playboy I had seventy-five people reporting to me at four different locations. I don't need to take a class on leadership, right? I took the class because I thought it would look good on my resume and help me expand contacts here locally.... What I learned was mind blowing and changed the way I think about people and relationships, business and otherwise. I thought I knew everything I needed to know, and I was wrong. You can ALWAYS learn more.

But not Robbie. You know everything about everything.

When you were at Dating Factory................

Today the industry has moved on and I stated why.

When I shot porn on Beta Cam ......................

The difference is beta cam is something that most people never heard of, while online dating is still a huge thing.

dude, have your battles with Paul, i don't mind, actually i find it amusing

but stop talking shit about things you have no idea of - especially when your whole knowledge about CZ comes from one weekend in Prague fucking hookers.

kthxbai

https://www.forbes.com/sites/billros.../#62daa2051c9c

:winkwink:

To my numerous Czech friends: I know CZ is not a 3rd world country, that was just a dig at Paul. :)

Oh - and StefanG: I lived in Europe for months last summer and spent weeks in Prague (and Brno) so my experience with CZ is more than just a weekend fucking hookers (although that is pretty fun, too).

:)

PS: When Paul moved to CZ it was pretty fucking close to a 3rd world country. Now, not so much but 20 years ago? Yah it was. Just sayin'. :)

Paul you always want to sum up my business and life, thinking you KNOW what my sites are, which ones I still shoot for, which ones I recently purchased (or created), etc. But you do not. I have over 3000 affiliates and those who make bank with my various Programs DO "sing my praises", here and elsewhere.

But it's ok, keep thinking I work for peanuts and do not even make 200K a year. It's highly amusing to me. :thumbsup

You look like a fool, acting like a showoff and pretending to be a baller.

http://i64.tinypic.com/332450p.jpg
http://i66.tinypic.com/282dslk.jpg
http://i67.tinypic.com/2u62ues.jpg

Whoever giving this nerd shit, i hope you actually in the industry and doing numbers.

Cause if bro asks for receipts and you aint got em, you gonna look like a broke hater.

Just sayin.

RIP TFP, it was a fun ride!!

Ps, great thread.

Lol, first alexa is not relevant for traffic numbers, second paysites are never high traffic sites, as people dont have tendency going to paysites as they rather go to tube sites. And third, what i know, how in order to make money , it is more important to have targetted traffic then having a lot of traffic. For example, better to have 5 people day which are willing to pay for membership then 10000 freeloaders a day.

Neither do you know what others have done?

great shows was there :thumbsup

You might as well say YT is adult because it has videos of girls in bikinis.

Porn is the business of people fucking, solo, couples and groups plus a few fetishes. Once you start going into the mainstream like Dating, which has replaced meeting people in bars, work, etc. It's no longer porn, it's a mainstream industry. See how far you get putting up picture of couples on Dating Factory.

PN can put up figures of his own any time he pleases. Until then we have to rely on Alexa.

Online it's easy to make a good estimate of the value of a site and it's income. https://www.google.com/search?source...53.UqzJxHlrfwc Look at the views and viewers scores on the videos.

https://www.pornnerdnetwork.com/

How many of "Todays Updates" are brand new, HD and more than amateur? That comment goes for the entire site. HD is now the only format available, even my phone shoots HD.

Where are the videos that makes one think this guy has to be making $200,000 a year profit and keeping 3,000 affiliates sending traffic?

* 75+ HD Theaters included free Is this 75 scenes or a lease deal from another site?

* Thousands of full-length DVDs When were the DVDs produced and by whom?

* Thousands of real amateur videos Can be picked up for pennies on the dollar and would be in HD if they were shot recently.

Content is now as cheap as dirt, especially of the "Amateur" kind. Couple will shoot themselves for a meagre amount. Most people can produce it, so where are the new videos?

Someone making claims about online success in the porn industry opens himself up to a quick investigation, especially when he links his claims to abuse another. I'm not saying Porn Nerd isn't making a living, I'm saying I don't think he's made millions in the last 10 years. He can't even afford to update his site.

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I welcome Porn Nerd's reply with all his new HD videos.