Are you sure about?

A quick look at your website tells me you are missing a huge step in capturing lost sales from people who visit your site but don't sign up? Too bad you didn't go to Phoenix Forum and sit in on a seminar where this was discussed.

Dating isn't really porn?

When I was at Dating Factory one of my biggest affiliates ran a pegging site.

Sad state of affairs with him & his sites.

He clearly has no 5 year plan either. He's going to become even more moody, erratic & irrational as the reality of old age comes knocking harder on his door.

I am not telling you that you don't know what you are talking about. I am trying to explain to you that ALL of us, no matter how much of an expert we think we are, have room to grow, learn, and improve.

Robbie, I am fifty years old. I am taking a "leadership" class. I thought to myself I didn't need to take it... I was a combat instructor in the Marines; I had hundreds of Marines who took orders from me. I worked at the phone company and I had two hundred and fifty employee who reported to me. When I was at Playboy I had seventy-five people reporting to me at four different locations. I don't need to take a class on leadership, right? I took the class because I thought it would look good on my resume and help me expand contacts here locally.... What I learned was mind blowing and changed the way I think about people and relationships, business and otherwise. I thought I knew everything I needed to know, and I was wrong. You can ALWAYS learn more.

But not Robbie. You know everything about everything.

When you were at Dating Factory................

Today the industry has moved on and I stated why.

When I shot porn on Beta Cam ......................

The difference is beta cam is something that most people never heard of, while online dating is still a huge thing.

dude, have your battles with Paul, i don't mind, actually i find it amusing

but stop talking shit about things you have no idea of - especially when your whole knowledge about CZ comes from one weekend in Prague fucking hookers.

kthxbai

https://www.forbes.com/sites/billros.../#62daa2051c9c

:winkwink:

To my numerous Czech friends: I know CZ is not a 3rd world country, that was just a dig at Paul. :)

Oh - and StefanG: I lived in Europe for months last summer and spent weeks in Prague (and Brno) so my experience with CZ is more than just a weekend fucking hookers (although that is pretty fun, too).

:)

PS: When Paul moved to CZ it was pretty fucking close to a 3rd world country. Now, not so much but 20 years ago? Yah it was. Just sayin'. :)

Paul you always want to sum up my business and life, thinking you KNOW what my sites are, which ones I still shoot for, which ones I recently purchased (or created), etc. But you do not. I have over 3000 affiliates and those who make bank with my various Programs DO "sing my praises", here and elsewhere.

But it's ok, keep thinking I work for peanuts and do not even make 200K a year. It's highly amusing to me. :thumbsup

You look like a fool, acting like a showoff and pretending to be a baller.

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Whoever giving this nerd shit, i hope you actually in the industry and doing numbers.

Cause if bro asks for receipts and you aint got em, you gonna look like a broke hater.

Just sayin.

RIP TFP, it was a fun ride!!

Ps, great thread.

Lol, first alexa is not relevant for traffic numbers, second paysites are never high traffic sites, as people dont have tendency going to paysites as they rather go to tube sites. And third, what i know, how in order to make money , it is more important to have targetted traffic then having a lot of traffic. For example, better to have 5 people day which are willing to pay for membership then 10000 freeloaders a day.

Neither do you know what others have done?

great shows was there :thumbsup

You might as well say YT is adult because it has videos of girls in bikinis.

Porn is the business of people fucking, solo, couples and groups plus a few fetishes. Once you start going into the mainstream like Dating, which has replaced meeting people in bars, work, etc. It's no longer porn, it's a mainstream industry. See how far you get putting up picture of couples on Dating Factory.

PN can put up figures of his own any time he pleases. Until then we have to rely on Alexa.

Online it's easy to make a good estimate of the value of a site and it's income. https://www.google.com/search?source...53.UqzJxHlrfwc Look at the views and viewers scores on the videos.

https://www.pornnerdnetwork.com/

How many of "Todays Updates" are brand new, HD and more than amateur? That comment goes for the entire site. HD is now the only format available, even my phone shoots HD.

Where are the videos that makes one think this guy has to be making $200,000 a year profit and keeping 3,000 affiliates sending traffic?

* 75+ HD Theaters included free Is this 75 scenes or a lease deal from another site?

* Thousands of full-length DVDs When were the DVDs produced and by whom?

* Thousands of real amateur videos Can be picked up for pennies on the dollar and would be in HD if they were shot recently.

Content is now as cheap as dirt, especially of the "Amateur" kind. Couple will shoot themselves for a meagre amount. Most people can produce it, so where are the new videos?

Someone making claims about online success in the porn industry opens himself up to a quick investigation, especially when he links his claims to abuse another. I'm not saying Porn Nerd isn't making a living, I'm saying I don't think he's made millions in the last 10 years. He can't even afford to update his site.

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I welcome Porn Nerd's reply with all his new HD videos.

A hunnet grumpy old men

Wise words.

This industry has degenerated to position where 5 people a day willing to pay for membership needs 10000 freeloaders a day. In some cases it's even worse.

Count the number of views on samples, not the number who can be bothered to buy.

The reasons are simple. Rarely do we see something that inspires enough to warrant someone to click and even less to buy after taking a tour. Because the free version is the better. There are exceptions but few and far between. Even back in the good old days the only reason people bought was they had to, remove that and it's downhill all the way.

Sad news. I decided to skip it this year and catch it in 2020. Sign of the times...

I do agree with you on quality of porn.
But having said that...there is some damn good stuff being shot right now. Jules Jordan is killing it. So are the Madison's (Kelly Madison productions), Evil Angel, Joanna Angel, and a few others as well.

The real reason that free porn is killing the industry isn't the quality of stuff though. The real reason is that once a guy jerks off...he's done.
When the full scenes were tucked behind a members area paid login, then they would buy.

But once they cum for free? No way that they will THEN pull out the credit card and purchase.

But that's an old argument that I had a thousand times right here on GFY for many years.

Just got told to "adapt or die". Which would just mean stop shooting porn and go to work for a big tube site (pirates up until a couple of years ago).

But we held in there. Found more revenue streams for our content. Made some channels on the big and NOW legit porn tubes and monetized that too.

I guess you could say I stuck in there doing what I like to do and instead of "adapt or die" we did a "adapt and on life-support" instead. lol

But they still do pull out their credit cards. They sign up directly from Pornhub.

Free porn has always been out there.... Tube sites are the new TPG galleries. Then add in Tik Tok.

But Robbie knows all of this so he doesn't need to go to shows. Or maybe he doesn't know.

LOL. Is Robbie using Tik Tok to get customers?

Porn isn't dead, it's alive a thriving. Paying for it is becoming a thing of the past and even though a site can get 1-40,000 views on a Tube. This is a far cry from the days of making people buy to view.

Back in the day I sold sample videos, made up of clips from the girls scenes for $8 a time, I sold 1,000s a month. I sold the full 1 hour tapes featuring a solo girl for $40 a tape and sold at least 1,000s a month. This was in the UK so limited to that market. The profit margins were huge. This is the power of forcing people who want to jerk off to porn, to buy porn. There were other companies in the UK doing exactly the same.

The birth of the Internet was the start of giving away free porn to get traffic and ratios fell.

I said there were some.

You ran a TGP site so made money from giving away free porn, complaining now because others give away more free porn than you do is a bit rich. The only thing limiting what TGPs gave away was the ROI on costs of BW.

All that's needed to sell porn is a link to a tour, the tour has to be vanilla porn and access to the hard stuff has to be only for people who pay. Then people will find out the real power of selling porn online.

Huh? I was running TGP since you had to pay 250$ a month for 2 gb of bandwidth only and it was working perfectly fine with huge amount of traffic. BW is issue only with tube sites.

If the cost of BW were to return to those prices, ratios would return to the times of TGPs. Giving away less free porn means more people will pay. Imagine the sales that would come from 100 million a day.

Thank you for confirming what I said.

Would Net Neutrality cripple Tube sites?

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