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Rochard 05-09-2019 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 22466801)
Your problem, and it is definitely a problem, is that you will not accept anything Trump has done as positive; you give all credit to Obama.

It is no wonder that no one is jumping up to try and explain something to someone whose catchphrase is "I don't understand."

You (and Grapefruit Juice) keep telling me I need to give Trump credit for the economy, and I keep asking what he has done for our economy to get credit. Trump walked into office with a unemployment rate that had been dropping for over five years.... He walked into office with a perfect, flawless economy. What has he done to make the economy better? What bills has he signed to make the economy better? What decisions has he made that has helped the economy?

https://fee.org/media/31863/msnbc-ch...07754442649434

How does Trump get credit for this? Trump wasn't in office in 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017....

Why can't you tell me what he has done. I don't want a copy and paste of some list from website; I want a direct answer.

baddog 05-09-2019 11:43 AM

Like I said.

Bladewire 05-09-2019 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22466847)
You (and Grapefruit Juice) keep telling me I need to give Trump credit for the economy, and I keep asking what he has done for our economy to get credit. Trump walked into office with a unemployment rate that had been dropping for over five years.... He walked into office with a perfect, flawless economy. What has he done to make the economy better? What bills has he signed to make the economy better? What decisions has he made that has helped the economy?

https://fee.org/media/31863/msnbc-ch...07754442649434

How does Trump get credit for this? Trump wasn't in office in 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017....

Why can't you tell me what he has done. I don't want a copy and paste of some list from website; I want a direct answer.

All they have is sarcasm

Knowledge is obsolete

For Trump supporters

imabro 05-09-2019 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22466214)
When did you serve in the military?

And what was your confirmed kill count?

Rochard 05-09-2019 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 22466849)
Like I said.

Trump has been in office for over two years. Can you show me one thing Trump has done to help our economy?

The thing that you don't understand is I can name things Trump has done for the economy that has helped. But I want someone from the Republican side to say "This is what Trump has done to help the economy" or even "something Trump did that was good" and I met with crickets.

crockett 05-09-2019 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 22466213)
Sure, he has figured out how to take up residence in your head. Not sure why you think I am a Trump fan, I didn't vote for him.

Do you have a felony? Is that why you didn't vote for him?

baddog 05-09-2019 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22466977)
Trump has been in office for over two years. Can you show me one thing Trump has done to help our economy?

The thing that you don't understand is I can name things Trump has done for the economy that has helped. But I want someone from the Republican side to say "This is what Trump has done to help the economy" or even "something Trump did that was good" and I met with crickets.

How many times have I said I am not a Republican? Sometimes you can be pretty dense.

Rochard 05-10-2019 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 22467098)
How many times have I said I am not a Republican? Sometimes you can be pretty dense.

I am sorry. I failed to check my spreadsheet to keep track of which GFY posters are Republican or Democrat.

So... basically you are just being a dick for the sake of being a dick.

Rochard 05-10-2019 07:59 AM

Where are we at now? Oh yea.....

Day Seven.

Seven days where not one Trump supporter can give me a single thing Trump has done for the economy. Or anything Trump has ever done that is good.

Here is all of the things he has failed at....

Obamacare
Fixing the VA
Better relations with Russia
Better relations with China
Better relations with North Korea
Solving the Middle East problem
Fixing the Opioid crisis
Building a wall

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gP93ibc3MMs/maxresdefault.jpg

Rochard 05-11-2019 04:43 AM

Day eight.

Not one Trump supporter / Russian troll / fake nick can give me one single "good thing" Trump has ever done.

Now it seems this morning Trump is being accused - of all things - stealing a golf ball from a child to win a golf championship.

Rochard 05-12-2019 06:57 AM

Day Nine.

Bladewire 05-12-2019 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22468315)
Day Nine.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

Rochard 05-13-2019 05:37 AM

Day Ten.

Over a week now and still no one from the Trump side can give an accomplishment.

I have one. Trump promised to move the US embassy to Jerusalem. Congrats. One accomplishment. It doesn't matter that this single act pissed the Palestinians, dooming any chance for any kind of lasting peace in the Middle East.

There was a reason the United States never moved our embassy to Jerusalem. This President and his family staff is too dumb to understand why it was a bad move.

Good job!

Rochard 05-14-2019 05:52 AM

Day Eleven.

Oddly enough not a single Trump support can come forward with an accomplishment.

I have one. Trump promised to walk away from the Trans-Pacific Partnership - and he did!!!! Good job!

Now we caught in a serious trade war with China, tariffs are going up, Americans are paying for it, farmers are going bankrupt, and... The one single thing that might have helped us here would have been the Trans-Pacific Partnership.... LOL.

Oh the irony....

Rochard 05-15-2019 07:44 AM

Day Twelve.

No worries. We are now in a full out trade war with China. Trump said today he will "Handle it when the time is right". Sure sure.

In other Trump news, the fourth-largest coal producer in the US files for bankruptcy... No worries however.... Trump, with all of his vast business knowledge (of running companies into the ground) will fix this. "When the time is right".

https://arstechnica.com/information-...or-bankruptcy/

Rochard 05-16-2019 06:40 AM

Day Thirteen.

Not once Trump nutter can give us a short list of accomplishments. Why is that?

Rochard 05-17-2019 07:17 AM

Day Fourteen.

We have a new accomplishment this morning.... Trump yesterday decided to cut funding for the high speed train in California. And all this time Trump nutters thought he was for infrastructure.... LOL.

Vendzilla 05-17-2019 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22471106)
Day Fourteen.

We have a new accomplishment this morning.... Trump yesterday decided to cut funding for the high speed train in California. And all this time Trump nutters thought he was for infrastructure.... LOL.

As usual you don't know shit, did you hear where the new rail was going to be between? Of course not, fucking waste of money

Vendzilla 05-17-2019 08:54 AM

And I'd give you a list, but you would deny everything noting the Obama administration was responsible, well ok, Obama administration was responsible for over 50 deaths of vets waiting for an appointment at the VA. Trump changed the rules about firing people that work at the VA and over 1,000 employees have been fired. The VA has way better communication, I get texts, emails and phone calls when it's time for something.

King Mark 05-17-2019 08:56 AM

Lol. Basically these people are now "not trump fans", they just get a joy out all the fuckshit he does...

That's they're new stance because they cant list a single great thing he's done, they just happy the black guy is gone...

Vendzilla 05-17-2019 09:08 AM

A Democrat walks into a bar and asks the bartender what's the most popular drink, the bartender replies a Russian Colusion, the Democrat says that sounds great, give me one of those. Ok said the bartender, and gave him an empty glass!!!

Vendzilla 05-17-2019 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye (Post 22471158)
Lol. Basically these people are now "not trump fans", they just get a joy out all the fuckshit he does...

That's they're new stance because they cant list a single great thing he's done, they just happy the black guy is gone...

Yeah, didn't think you were smart enough to read

Vendzilla 05-17-2019 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22464618)
What changes? A tax cut for the rich? Deregulation?

I got a tax cut

Vendzilla 05-17-2019 09:12 AM

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/w...romise-keeping that's an old list, but 289 and counting

Bladewire 05-17-2019 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22471176)
I got a tax cut

Liar

Why is telling the truth and being honest so difficult for you?

Vendzilla 05-17-2019 09:20 AM

Day one, Rochard is still counting

Rochard 05-17-2019 02:00 PM

LOL. New accomplishment today.... Trump decided to lift the tariffs with Mexico and Canada. Dumb ass. The new NAFTA (which is really the original NAFTA with a handful of changes that don't change much) won't get approved when we have tariffs in place against the other two founding members.

Bladewire 05-17-2019 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22471185)
Day one, Rochard is still counting

The truth is your enemy, says a lot about the deterioration of your mind :2 cents:

Vendzilla 05-17-2019 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22471355)
LOL. New accomplishment today.... Trump decided to lift the tariffs with Mexico and Canada. Dumb ass. The new NAFTA (which is really the original NAFTA with a handful of changes that don't wchange much) won't get approved when we have tariffs in place against the other two founding members.

Um, there were only three countries involved in NAFTA, what other two members are you magically involving in this ?

Vendzilla 05-17-2019 05:04 PM

And why haven't you answered the rest of it?

Rochard 05-17-2019 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22471418)
Um, there were only three countries involved in NAFTA, what other two members are you magically involving in this ?

Wow. Just wow.

There are three countries involved in NAFTA. They are Canada, United States, and Mexico. The United States has (or had) tariffs on two of the three countries involved in NAFTA.

Can you tell me which countries we had tariffs on? I'll give you a hint.... One of them is NOT the United States.

The correct answer is the United States had tariffs on Canada and Mexico. If you got the answer correct, you get a gold star!!!

Do the see the logic here? Trump was trying to get his new NAFTA passed, but there was no way in the world Canada or Mexico would approve it being as we had tariffs in place.

But it's a moot issue. The new NAFTA might pass or it might not, but all they did was take the same framework of the original NAFTA and made a few changes.

Just to give you an example of the changes, under the new plan employees who make automobiles must make $16/hour (or face a small tariff). The concept here is to make it less profitable to make cars in Mexico, or Canada. But the truth is the tariff is small and the costs will be passed onto Americans. You had a problem with math earlier, so me explain it you in simple terms....

Cars will still be made in Canada and Mexico, but will cost us more.

But Trump really needs a "win" to make it look like an accomplishment.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/phillev.../#7a4d48ef5d0c

Vendzilla 05-17-2019 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22471355)
LOL. New accomplishment today.... Trump decided to lift the tariffs with Mexico and Canada. Dumb ass. The new NAFTA (which is really the original NAFTA with a handful of changes that don't change much) won't get approved when we have tariffs in place against the other two founding members.

Hey shit for brains, you said above that Trump has decided to lift sanctions then you say it won't get approved if we have sanctions? Are you fucking kidding me, if he lifted them, then how can there still be tarrifs?

Vendzilla 05-17-2019 06:11 PM

Also, even Hillary said that NAFTA needed to be changed, you twatwaffle

Rochard 05-17-2019 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22471438)
Hey shit for brains, you said above that Trump has decided to lift sanctions then you say it won't get approved if we have sanctions? Are you fucking kidding me, if he lifted them, then how can there still be tarrifs?

I understand it's difficult for you to understand these things.

Right now Trump has regular tariffs in place. News reports are telling us that he plans to remove them or has removed them.

However, in NAFTA 2.0 there are provisions for tariffs to automatically kick in if certain conditions aren't met. I explained it once, but perhaps if I repeat myself in a larger and bolder font it would help you to understand better.

....under the new plan employees who make automobiles must make $16/hour (or face a small tariff). The concept here is to make it less profitable to make cars in Mexico, or Canada. But the truth is the tariff is small and the costs will be passed onto Americans.


So.... tariffs were removed but will go back into place again because plants in Mexico aren't about to pay anyone $16/hour so.... Again the costs are passed onto Americans.

OneHungLo 05-17-2019 06:33 PM

Is rochard in here still making a fool out of himself?

Vendzilla 05-17-2019 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22471443)
Is rochard in here still making a fool out of himself?

Yeah, he's saying there are tarrifs and there aren't any tarrifs on the same breathe. But tarrifs might kick in, it's fucking hilarious how stupid he sounds

Rochard 05-17-2019 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22471440)
Also, even Hillary said that NAFTA needed to be changed

Sure. The agreement is twenty-five years old and needs to replaced. But Trump, because of the complete incompetence of his administration, isn't replacing it but instead keeping the basic framework in place. This will have zero impact on American jobs, zero impact on our GDP, and will raise prices (due to automatic tariffs) on some large ticket items for Americans.

This isn't a win. It's not an accomplishment. They didn't replaced it; They changed a handful of things and renamed it. In the end, it will be WORSE for Americans.

Vendzilla 05-17-2019 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22471445)
Sure. The agreement is twenty-five years old and needs to replaced. But Trump, because of the complete incompetence of his administration, isn't replacing it but instead keeping the basic framework in place. This will have zero impact on American jobs, zero impact on our GDP, and will raise prices (due to automatic tariffs) on some large ticket items for Americans.

This isn't a win. It's not an accomplishment. They didn't replaced it; They changed a handful of things and renamed it. In the end, it will be WORSE for Americans.

Yeah you said the same thing about an economy under Trump yet it's so good, Obama wants credit for it. Try again

Rochard 05-17-2019 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22471444)
Yeah, he's saying there are tarrifs and there aren't any tarrifs on the same breathe. But tarrifs might kick in, it's fucking hilarious how stupid he sounds

This is exactly what I said. Trump remove the tariffs today (or is going to). However, new tariffs are built into the new agreement.

Again.... The agreement states something along the lines of "If car manufacturing employees are not paid a minimum of $16/hour US, their products will be subject to a certain percentage tariff". The car manufacturers will have a choice between paying their employees a lot more or passing on the costs of tariffs to Americans.

I understand it's difficult for you to understand. Trump unfairly put a tariff on cars made in Canada and Mexico, remove the tariffs in an attempt to get this passed in Canada and Mexico, and the end result is... A new tariff will go into place.

Americans will paid more for American cars made in Canada and Mexico.

Do you understand now?

Vendzilla 05-17-2019 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22471449)
This is exactly what I said. Trump remove the tariffs today (or is going to). However, new tariffs are built into the new agreement.

Again.... The agreement states something along the lines of "If car manufacturing employees are not paid a minimum of $16/hour US, their products will be subject to a certain percentage tariff". The car manufacturers will have a choice between paying their employees a lot more or passing on the costs of tariffs to Americans.

I understand it's difficult for you to understand. Trump unfairly put a tariff on cars made in Canada and Mexico, remove the tariffs in an attempt to get this passed in Canada and Mexico, and the end result is... A new tariff will go into place.

Americans will paid more for American cars made in Canada and Mexico.

Do you understand now?

Who gives a shit about cars made in Mexico, make them here. Again, all you have is conjecture. Saying I don't know what's going on doesn't make you all knowing. We don't even know everything that's in the agreement because it's not finished yet, but somehow you know, I call bullshit.


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