they do not steal your IP...china is upfront about it..."if you greedy ass capitalists want to produce here you gotta hand over the tech fuck you" and you are like "yes greeeeeeed! excellent!" and you hand over the tech...

spoons did not make you fat...china did not steal your tech...you hand it over...and over...

yes but how come this was not a problem during regan or clinton or bush? they had much higher rates and rate hikes were talked about all the time...

sucks to be you in this argument :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Actually that's not true there's been many cases where American companies have sued them for actually stealing IP.

They've also had cases where China hacked American companies, that are producing in America NOT in China, stolen their IP, and start producing the product in China.

China also does this with counterfeit high end fashion merchandise not produced in China.

How does it suck to be me? My argument is that when the fed raised the rates, the market went down every time...and i'm right.

You're asking me why it didn't matter then? I don't know. Maybe it did. That was then and this is now.

But back to the argument: did the fed raising the rates drop the market? Yes. I just proved it.

Good, so you do want something done about it :thumbsup

Trump is getting it done.

I knew you had a lil' red hat in you!!!

Trump 2020 :thumbsup

no that was one case...they spied on some mobile crap...mobile testing machine...big fucking deal...you guys literally hand it over...because money...

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

exactly! it never mattered before but it matters now...what a joke...


accept it: trump is shit :thumbsup

Let's just get things straight here. OneHungLo is right about everything and the rest of you retards need to go to economics school lol

Thanks. We have some people here with stage 5 tds :1orglaugh

you took all the narcotics at once? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You still drive a 1984 Ford Escort that you can't afford a heater core for and you don't even live in the US, but you're a stock market expert.

This is the guy that thinks OneDumbHo is a genius.


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Poor dumb serb.

whether it mattered then is irrelevant. What matters is now. And when the fed raises the rates the market has tanked every time.

You lose.

Per usual.

Are you seriously still trying to argue that the DOW has been stagnant for 17 months because of interest rate hikes??

You've spent the whole day arguing this idiotic point. Jesus

damn, why do china ship all that shit to the usa ?????

And damn mexico for shipping all that dope to the usa !!!!

:)

.. and the USA does the same ....

Wasn't Ivanka caught copying dresses from Europe ( made in China ) ?

Your shit stinks as well :2 cents:

Dude we know the Canadian muz would love nothing more to have China keep stealing 1/2 trillion worth of our IP..but Trump is doing something about it

deal with it.


:pimp

Trump supporters just sit back for 17 months of no growth and say "give Trump a chance" as she runs the economy into the ground :disgust

oh so it did not matter then but it matters now :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

yeah sounds legit :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


we all see trump is shit you know :thumbsup

The market is still crashing today :2 cents:

Walking out of negotiations with China North Korea and Venezuela and the stock market continues crashing :disgust

17 months of excuses from Trump supporters

Notice that before OneHungLo was saying the market tanking was a natural correction. Now he's got his talking points and he's blaming the Fed for Trump's crashing the economy since he started the trade war with China.

Results matter.

Stalled economy since trade war began January 22nd,

No growth in the stock market.

Trade gap with China at world recid high.

Trump has made no progress with China in 17 months

The market crashed again today falling over -600 points

Trump trade war isn't making sense to investors Kno surprise).

We're back to January 5th, 2018 levels now

No growth

Trump didn't have to do this. He could have just said fuck it like most presidents in the past but he's doing something about it because he cares about the future of the country and not what the stock market does during his presidency. This trade war has shaved 5,000-7,000 points off the DOW over the last year and a half. You don't think he knows what's happening to the stock market?

This trade war is necessary because we'll probably never get another person like Trump who isn't your typical bought and paid for politician.

PS if you care so much about "growth" then you should be happy since we're still up 35% since he was elected. (but we all know you don't own a single stock.)

That was Obama's trajectory

Trump fucked up Obama's trajectory 17 months ago and he started the trade with... a week later the Dow stop rising on Obama's trajectory and became Trump trajectory.

Trump fucked up Obama's economy of record-breaking growth.

Obama never had record breaking growth. It was the poorest recovery in history.

Funny how this thread gets bumped when the DJIA drops

Why lie again?

A record 75 straight months of job growth under Obama

The Dow has reached a new high, on average, once every seven days since March 2013 under Obama

Anyway I'm tired of you lying with no links and then me posting links to the truth.

You can't have an honest conversation when things are going bad with your loser Trump failing. You go through your life lying to people every fucking day shows what a loser you are and what a threat reality is to your mental defect.

And he didn't do shit about China stealing 500MM of our IP every year + he didn't have any rate hikes.

Trump is up 35% and we're having a HUGE trade war that's constantly driving the market down AND 8 rate hikes (which I proved to you drive the market down every time.)

More shit lies from you

Boring

https://www.forbes.com/sites/waynewi.../#612011e42b6d


Obama Wins The Gold For Worst Economic Recovery Ever

What is a lie?

"And he didn't do shit about China stealing 500MM of our IP every year + he didn't have any rate hikes."

A complete lie

Obama says to keep pressing China on currency, intellectual property

Bogus Claim on No Interest Rate Increases Under Obama

You just say random lies and you don't hold yourself responsible for anything you fucking say. You have no integrity

He went 7 years of his presidency without a hike.

He had one in 2015 and the other one was a month before he walked out of office.

Be real.


And yeah, Obama didn't do shit! But we have a real president that's willing to risk his ass on this trade deal. Even if the market tanks ( which it may) you losers will still cry, even though you don't even have a penny invested.

So you lie and then you contradict your lie in the same post. What the fuck is wrong with you? Why can't you have an honest conversation when you're losing?

Bogus Claim on No Interest Rate Increases Under Obama

Trump's stock market sucks compared to Obama deal with it. Facts are like Kryptonite to Trump supporters.

Nothing stops you to bump it when it goes up .... :winkwink:

the stock market is flat as fuck...fake MAGA...

You just can't stop ... deflection , lies , falsehood .... you are a worthless individual depriving others of air .

Yes, i am winning. I went short Arcelor Mittal. But took my profits too fast.
Could have been 5 times more if i waited 2 days longer.
Now looking at some other stocks to short.
Just like i said in december.