Also, the probably that we are the most advanced, base one what we know about the universe is basically NIL. We are in the youngest part of the universe as we know it. This was well explained by Carl Sagan in this sort 5 mins clip:

Last Friday Episode of Unidentified TV Show is now up on Vimeo

https://i.ibb.co/ZBQtTX4/e1s3.jpg

To go from seeing something they don't know what it is, that's what UFO means, to Aliens visiting Earth requires a huge leap of faith.

Where was the Mother ship carrying such a craft?

Or did it make the trip all on it's own?

Once you abandon all logic, you enter the world of dreams.

To go from seeing something they don't know what it is, that's what UFO means, to Aliens visiting Earth requires a huge leap of faith.

Where was the Mother ship carrying such a craft?

Or did it make the trip all on it's own?

Once you abandon all logic, you enter the world of dreams.

I'm not saying intelligent life of some form doesn't exist anywhere in the Universe or that aliens couldn't visit the Earth. What I'm saying is the odds of an intelligent life visiting Earth on fly by missions in small craft and with all the problems of space flight for no reason other than to fly over the Earth and fool a few people is so far fetched you're clutching at invisible straws. What I want to see is logical evidence that these craft or aliens exist and so far nothing exists. No a dot on a screen isn't evidence.

Logically if you understand the cosmic calendar it means we are most likely a very new planet with life. Many should logically be way ahead of us. Then add the testimonies, docs, material etc. Skeptics will just say every testimonies are made from crazy people, every docs as fake, every lab analysis are errors. They will attack each and every proof one by one as it was just that. But if you weight all the evidences it becomes obvious there’s something going on. If someone was facing a trial for murder and he had all this playing against him, he would get fried on the electric chair in no time.

It was not just a dot on the screen.. The Pilots saw it with there eyes.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9D8dzl4zGk

What they saw isn't evidence of aliens, or flying saucers powered by aliens. It was an
Unidentified Flying Object.

Ya.. defying the laws of physics as we know them to be and travelling at speeds that would kill anything inside ( or should ).

So it was a craft that could not have been made by the Human species.. So then its obviously something from another planet or dimension and that could only be called Aliens.

Obviously if they are spending tens of millions of dollars investigating these things then they are worried. Those are two trained professionals they aren’t going to be fooled by a fly or spec of dust. The airforce is worried that someone or SOMETHING has better technology.

Richard Dolan Post a Follow Up About the Wilson Leak ( see original post from June 10th above )

NY Post - 4th Episode of Their UFO Series

The radar operator on the Nimitz said that more than 100 UFO's came down into our atmosphere that day as he tracked them with the most advanced "360" radar in the world.
Said they cruised slowly at 100 knots at 28,000 feet (which he said at that height and slow speed they should have fallen).

Then one of them went from 28,000 feet to sea level at a speed of 24,000 MPH!!!

Nothing that the military, or NASA has can do that in Earth's atmosphere from a dead stop.

They should say hi.

Sleepwalker thanks for keeping this thread updated. Still fascinating stuff.

:thumbsup

Who says it contained living beings? Could be a drone type vehicle.

All I'm saying is we need a whole lot more evidence and proof before leaping to the assumption it's aliens travelling across the universe to fly past Earth.

The Senate is being given a classified briefing today on UFOs from the Pentagon.

Yep! This news is all over the place:

https://i.imgur.com/W226niT.jpg
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/19/warner-classified-briefing-ufos-1544273

Hundred flying thingees in the skies.

Wow! In that article, Trump actually says he doesn't believe in UFO's. He gets a +1 on the Marky Trump Scoreboard.

That's confirmation right there UFOs exist.

Anytime Trump opens his mouth its either a lie...or he's wrong.

If he doesn't believe in little green men - chances are they're out there.

So? Still not aliens.


I can tell you what it wasn't - Aliens.

The UFO community is not a credible source of information. Not Aliens.


Correct! But it doesn't prove it either. Not Aliens.

No evidence has been found. Nothing, nada, zip. Not aliens.

Agreed. But still, not aliens.

Don't get me wrong - I love Sci-Fi and I know Science will bring us wonders we can't even imagine. I have no doubt that we will fly to the stars one day in an FTL space ship. I think there are millions of civilizations in the universe and hundreds of thousands capable of interstellar travel. As a Science nerd and Science Fiction Nerd, I believe that.

But with all of that - No. I don't believe what we are seeing now are aliens. I have seen zero proof, and no persons retelling of events, no matter how passionate, can convince me without real, solid proof.

That's a bingo.

In order to travel that fast it would have to have accelerate at 4800 meters per second squared and would require kinetic energy of 57555300000 x 2 Joules, and then decelerate at the same rate, assuming it was 100km up and had a mass of 1000kg. It would heat and display so much air so fast that an explosion-type sound would be heard around the world, and the super heated air would be bright enough to blind you.

I think it might be brighter as it slows down because all of that momentum has to be converted into heat. But anyway. Not to mention the acceleration and deceleration would obliterate any pilot flying that thing around like that.

Furthermore the amount of energy it would take to get up to speed and then slow it back down would be tremendous, and tremendously wasteful. It's a safe bet to assume that beings who get here from another planet know how save fuel.

It sounds like a great story for sure but basic physics (at least about how objects move through our atmosphere) instantly tell us that what this guy saw cannot be a physical object moving the way he described. And since this happened over the ocean, he also has little to no frame of reference.


With all of the UFO sightings, you would think that they would have by now.

Not Aliens.


Hey! Wait a minute... FUCK! Goddammit...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/u-s...aval-sightings

Senators briefed on UFO's as speculation grows surrounding naval sightings: report

The Defense Department reportedly briefed Senate Intelligence Committee Vice Chairman Mark Warner, D-Va., on Wednesday, along with two other senators as part of what appeared to be heightened efforts to inform politicians about naval encounters with unidentified aircraft.

Christopher Mellon, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, has said that the U.S. knew UFOs existed. "We know that UFOs exist. This is no longer an issue," he said. "The issue is why are they here? Where are they coming from and what is the technology behind these devices that we are observing?"


So they are literally saying UFO's exist 100% no doubt about it.. and by saying that they are also saying that Aliens exist.. because nobody else could be flying around in those UFO's.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Careful quoting Trump - it's liable to backfire.

Sometimes I think some of this stuff is staged to keep the DARPA money flowing.
Perhaps not all of it but who knows. Enough evidence to question it.

Won't that be a scenario - the U.S. trying to decide who would be more fun to launch new advanced weapons at...Iran or E.T.

Things we couldn't explain were attributed to god, not it's aliens. :upsidedow

Last Night Bob Lazar was on Joe Rogan




The documentary is now on Netflix:
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/...82,268_AL_.jpg

Last Night Episode ( Episode 4 ) of Unidentified TV Show is now up on Vimeo
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I think that Lazar guy is lying just to sell books and movies

After seeing that video, I am just as skeptical. Perhaps more.
I would say the 2 most likely things you are seeing are stealth reconnaissance drones made by the 1-US or 2-China.

It only makes sense that the US would test these out against their own battle groups for detection, avoidance and surveillance tests. So that tops my 2 part list.
So, they doctor footage and use selective portions to feed the public (even more to the senate) to obtain more DARPA money.

If they were able to release some to the public, why not all of it ?
They do not want it scrutinized before the objective is achieved. And afterwards there is no reason to. It's a teaser to explain to the public why they are going to spend multi-billions on a program. There has to be a perceived threat. Which is likely going to fund this aircraft/program.

Some advice...
Your newly acquired server that you have been running for a few weeks has it's own issues.
It may be safe from a amateur, but not everyone here is. You will never know.
Better spend your time fixing your own house and not trying to piss folks off just trying to drum up biz for your own site.
You are not likely to piss me off but I do need some practice.
Game on ?

Bump to clear board pic:thumbsup

I saw that Rogan video - good stuff :thumbsup

Either Lazar is the most adept, creative and consistent liar in recent memory...or he's seen some shit that should change the world someday.

My jury's still out - but I'm inclined to believe the guy...even if there's still some questions about the authenticity of his creds.

When he mentions about Zeta Reticulli I flashed back to the old alien abduction story about Betty and Barney Hill ('A UFO Incident') and how she drew a star map showing that particular system.

I found it odd why Lazar had several memory blanks during this Podcast, is he a liar and got caught out in a lie or did he just have a memory blank due to an apparent mentioned bad migraine ?

I get memory blanks often.

Usually after a dozen beers and shots of JD.

Glad I didn't work on UFOs in the 80s. The entire decade is pretty much blank.