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Vendzilla 07-04-2019 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 22495690)
yeah well i know you probably like seeing whites only. the real world is different. i have to go. have a safe one sir.

I never said that, would you want a black actor playing Donald Trump in a movie?

Bladewire 07-04-2019 03:38 PM

This reminds me of the Gay Teletubbies controversy that OneHungLo's people started years ago.

3 year old alien characters that don't speak and have no sex organs might be Gay thus are not fit to be on kids TV. Oh my God a black mermaid :helpme

Vendzilla 07-04-2019 03:44 PM

Or maybe Jackie Chan playing Obama? Some roles just don't work, Will Smith in Wild Wild West didn't work for me and it did terrible at the box office, he even said he regrets doing the role.

brassmonkey 07-04-2019 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22495789)
I never said that, would you want a black actor playing Donald Trump in a movie?

you ok? you know which is real and which is fictional??? this is a fucking cartoon! you should be only going to see this if you are with kids or you had a date with richard simmons :Oh crap


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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22495792)
This reminds me of the Gay Teletubbies controversy that OneHungLo's people started years ago.

3 year old alien characters that don't speak and have no sex organs might be Gay thus are not fit to be on kids TV. Oh my God a black mermaid :helpme

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Bladewire 07-04-2019 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 22495800)
this is a fucking cartoon! you should be only going to see this if you are with kids or you had a date with richard simmons :Oh crap

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

Vendzilla 07-04-2019 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 22495800)
you ok? you know which is real and which is fictional??? this is a fucking cartoon! you should be only going to see this if you are with kids or you had a date with richard simmons :Oh crap



:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You do know I said I don't have a problem with her skin color, just think her hair should be red

Vendzilla 07-04-2019 03:59 PM

Have you seen the show sirens, it's a different take on mermaids

CaptainHowdy 07-04-2019 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22495806)
Have you seen the show sirens, it's a different take on mermaids

http://www.awesomestories.com/images...30e4f1d516.jpg

brassmonkey 07-04-2019 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22495804)
You do know I said I don't have a problem with her skin color, just think her hair should be red

is that a fetish? nude red pumps? she's legal right???

JesseQuinn 07-04-2019 04:56 PM

I think my parents first figured out I was into chicas when that movie came out. I was 11 and switched from drawing birds in the yard to very detailed pictures of mermaids without the shell bra. many of mine were purple, with very small yet supple & perky tatas

at that age I don't think Ariel even registered to me as a white character, she was a mermaid who was paleface and I understood most representations I saw in media were similarly toned so it meant absolutely nothing to me. but I say that as someone of a similar shade of skin surrounded by people darker than me irl so I knew pale was not the norm. to a darker girl growing up at my time some popular cultural refs prob would have been helpful, beyond Jodi in Today's Special

this thread on face is funny though. so a Black woman -delighted that OneHung capitalized Black btw :)- plays a fictional character who was originally depicted as a white mermaid in the cartoon. if we had to suck up Johnny Depp as Tonto I think y'all can survive

@ghj, serious question about your first post as it relates to something I run into from time to time both with online friends and cam clients. what exactly are white people (here read men, never met a white woman threatened in this sort of manner, online or off) so afraid of? this is not rhetorical, what is happening that makes some dudes feel they are being driven out of agency and/or existence? like not having anything to live for? that sounds like depression rather than political position. I honestly don't get it, but would like to

I just don't see a logical foundation. when I have asked people I tend to get a set of pre-rehearsed lines about losing culture (as if cultures are ever fixed, they are always is changing) and a sense of being silenced without saying who is silencing them and words that don't really say much and seem to be very fear-based. so I drop it cuz I'm not trying to force an issue. honestly want to understand that position but for the fucking life of me cannot

as to the gif of Amin, his sad arc as leader of Uganda was very much in keeping with the gatekeeper theory articulated best by Basil Davidson (a white dude btw, thinking Walter Rodney might be a bit much for some-not you) about the nature of post-colonial African nations once they liberated themselves. no country is perfect, but there are established patterns that occur after nation gets out from under formal colonial control and this is one of them

it happened in Jamaica as well. had the CIA not destabilized the Jamaican gov in the 70's Seaga never would have been able to terrorize this country as he did for decades. even historians and academics held out on speaking about Jamaican politics and history while he was alive because they were (rightfully) afraid of the repercussions if they told the truth

his death was this nation's rebirth. really such sad legacy, that people including me are thankful he is dead


we live in an international world and it's unrealistic to think one can cement a culture or point in history in a specific place as everlasting. ish is changing, as it always has and will till the robots take over. that's part of the beauty; even the music we listen to is a mix and blend of different cultures over different periods of time

so what are people so upset about?


as a peace offering to you and DE, just a track I love


ghjghj 07-04-2019 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JesseQuinn (Post 22495842)
what exactly are white people so afraid of?

The Great Replacement

CaptainHowdy 07-04-2019 05:50 PM

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9GO-GZg_L...0/grilling.gif

Grapesoda 07-04-2019 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye (Post 22495613)
"It was abundantly clear that Halle possesses that rare combination of spirit, heart, youth, innocence, and substance — plus a glorious singing voice — all intrinsic qualities necessary to play this iconic role," said Marshall."

?

good to go.. question... how many non black singers were turned down with equal qualifications?

JesseQuinn 07-04-2019 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ghjghj (Post 22495847)

Dylan Thomas was cool, not even pissed at you for bringing poetry into it =p

thank you for replying and for the manner in which you did

first off, really like that diagram whether you intended it to be positive or not, except for the 'ethnic autonomy' part. not only is that not my own personal lived reality but has their ever been a period in modern history where this was true? we all rely on each other, kinda sharing a planet here and without it I would not be living here listening to DMX right now (I really, really love DMX) in the islands. so yay people not afraid to explore

culture is always changing, the stuff to keep is the best of what we brew up. I don't speak Micmac nor do I look like I should but I def carry Miꞌkmaq heritage (embodied history, rather than culture which is present day stuff) with me

one of the characteristics of Native and Metis cultures is being open to everything, absolutely a Native trait. Metis peeps put it on over-drive. we're curious & questioning people

and half my ancestors put a bounty on the scalps of the ancestors who birthed the peeps who raised me. crazy world

I live my world view (openness and respect for difference and to always ask questions) with kids I supervise when the 'adults' (busy being boring and sitting and drinking or just not wanting to play) as a way to look at the world. it helps that kids listen more to peeps who are not their parents. they don't share my heritage, but get my culture. they reject past prescripts of identity as well. makes no fucking sense to them. as in not what do you look like but what are you doing?

people are never a threat inherently. heritage can always thrive, I am proof of that. no one can ever take that away

brassmonkey 07-04-2019 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22495856)
good to go.. question... how many non black singers were turned down with equal qualifications?

well they chose what they wanted. they can listen to her music and see what she has. no guessing. Idris Elba is afraid to be bond. this world is fucked up. :2 cents::2 cents:

GAMEFINEST 07-04-2019 07:58 PM

as long as she can act.

ghjghj 07-04-2019 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JesseQuinn (Post 22495870)
I def carry Miꞌkmaq heritage

My ancestors were Knights Templar.

just a punk 07-04-2019 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22495797)
Or maybe Jackie Chan playing Obama? Some roles just don't work, Will Smith in Wild Wild West didn't work for me and it did terrible at the box office, he even said he regrets doing the role.

As I said above :2 cents:

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 22495800)
you ok? you know which is real and which is fictional???

Uncle Tom is also fictional, but he can't be played by a white actor, because it will ruin the idea of the book (movie). As about the real characters, so you will be surprised how far idiots can go. Do you know who was Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim? I guess not because of poor US education, so please read about him in Wikipedia.

This is him in the real life and... in the modern movie:

https://www.bestfunnypic.com/data/fu...s-100-real.jpg

These look just like twins, right? And course the race doesn't matter when we make a movie about Nazis...

JesseQuinn 07-04-2019 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ghjghj (Post 22495901)
My ancestors were Knights Templar.

so your tribe got fucked over too? lol but not funny really, who hasn't been at some point or another

fist bump doesn't seem appropriate but whatever. here's to good people navigating the maze


brassmonkey 07-04-2019 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22495904)
As I said above :2 cents:



Uncle Tom is also fictional, but he can't be played by a white actor, because it will ruin the idea of the book (movie).

mlk is not fictional. you don't even know what you are talking about! dark tower is fiction! they could make the lead a female. there are movies where the character is changed entirely. they have changed batman so many times its not even funny. man that vodka has you comparing real people with fake characters :Oh crap fukin communist

just a punk 07-04-2019 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 22495907)
mlk is not fictional. you don't even know what you are talking about! dark tower is fiction! they could make the lead a female.

It crack has you talking bullshit. You haven't read The Dark Tower, because you don't read books, right? If you read it, you would know that Roland Deschain as a character was described very detailed. Stephen King said that when we imagine him, we must portrait him in mind as Clint Eastwood. L-i-t-e-r-a-l-l-y!

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While Roland Deschain takes his name and purpose from his kindred spirit in Browning’s poem, Clint Eastwood’s performance as director Sergio Leone’s spaghetti Western character “The Man With No Name” influenced the character’s look and mannerisms. The King character even winks at the comparison in Song of Susannah, telling Roland, “As The Man With No Name—a fantasy version of Clint Eastwood—you were okay. A lot of fun to partner up with.”
So Clint Eastwood can be black? Asian? Chukchi? He can be a female? Maybe a transgender? Maybe he may look like Donald Trump? Why not, ah? Quit with crack already.

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 22495681)
she's not white... blue eyes? bleach her skin?

Yes, deep blue eyes (like an ocean) as it's described in the original Andersen's book. You didn't read it either right? :winkwink:

But you know, it's really possible if Ariel... was a mutant with Waardenburg syndrome.

brassmonkey 07-05-2019 03:26 AM

if someone bought the rights they can change it. did you know wes craven sold a nightmare on elm street after movie 1 with johnny depp? that is why the style totally changed. you are arguing about changing fictional characters and putting real people in your argument which is hella funny!
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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22495908)
It crack has you talking bullshit. You haven't read The Dark Tower, because you don't read books, right? If you read it, you would know that Roland Deschain as a character was described very detailed. Stephen King said that when we imagine him, we must portrait him in mind as Clint Eastwood. L-i-t-e-r-a-l-l-y!



So Clint Eastwood can be black? Asian? Chukchi? He can be a female? Maybe a transgender? Maybe he may look like Donald Trump? Why not, ah? Quit with crack already.



Yes, deep blue eyes (like an ocean) as it's described in the original Andersen's book. You didn't read it either right? :winkwink:

But you know, it's really possible if Ariel... was a mutant with Waardenburg syndrome.


P_RABID 07-05-2019 03:37 AM

Disney did it with Alladin too, the Genie is Will Smith, u can't tell me he ain't a funny dude. Don't see what the issue is with replacing the original white characters with black ones. SMH

brassmonkey 07-05-2019 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by P_RABID (Post 22495957)
Disney did it with Alladin too, the Genie is Will Smith, u can't tell me he ain't a funny dude.

:2 cents::2 cents:

just a punk 07-05-2019 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by P_RABID (Post 22495957)
Disney did it with Alladin too, the Genie is Will Smith, u can't tell me he ain't a funny dude. Don't see what the issue is with replacing the original white characters with black ones. SMH

Genie was not white. He was a fantastic creature of an unknown race. Perhaps his fantastic race was based on Arabians (since the story was written there), so black is the most closest color for this character in the movie. Will Smith must be ok, IMHO.

E.g. here is an Arabic-style Genie from some old Soviet movie of 30s:

https://img.domkino.tv/img/2018-02-1...399088ba73.jpg

He's being played by a white actor, but his skin is darkened. Because... Arabian Genie can not be white in a same way as Clint Eastwood or Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim can't be black.

brassmonkey 07-05-2019 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22496010)
Genie was not white. He was a fantastic creature of an unknown race. Perhaps his fantastic race was based on Arabians (since the story was written there), so black is the most closest color for this character in the movie. Will Smith must be ok, IMHO.

uh robin williams was genie

just a punk 07-05-2019 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 22496012)
uh robin williams was genie

Maybe not an Arabian one. Otherwise that movie sucks.

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 22495950)
if someone bought the rights they can change it.

Do I need any rights to film my own movie about Martin Luther King? Ok, let's make him a white blond man with blue eyes and strong German-aryan accent. I would like to see your face when it will be shown in the cinema. I would like to see the faces of all hose black guys in the USA who will be watching it...

BTW, I would suggest this guy for a biographical role of Louis Armstrong:

http://i.imgur.com/qx0vz.jpg

Why not, ah?

brassmonkey 07-05-2019 05:27 AM

there you go again... you say stupid stuff to amuse yourself?? you don't know the difference between fact and fiction :Oh crap </thread>
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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22496013)
Maybe not an Arabian one. Otherwise that movie sucks.



Do I need any rights to film my own movie about Martin Luther King? Ok, let's make him a white blond man with blue eyes and strong German-aryan accent. I would like to see your face when it will be shown in the cinema. I would like to see the faces of all hose black guys in the USA who will be watching it...

BTW, I would suggest this guy for a biographical role of Louis Armstrong:

http://i.imgur.com/qx0vz.jpg

Why not, ah?


Vendzilla 07-05-2019 05:32 AM

I have no problem with Will Smith playing the genie, that makes more sense than a white genie .

just a punk 07-05-2019 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 22496016)
there you go again... you say stupid stuff to amuse yourself?? you don't know the difference between fact and fiction

Are you on drugs? Since when Clint Eastwood are Carl Mannerheim are fiction? Dude, wake the fuck up already. They are real persons. So if they can be played by blacks, why Martin Luther King and Louis Armstrong can't be played by whites or Asians? Put off your crack pipe and turn on your logic... if you still have it.

I bet that Jackie Chan will be the best movie reincarnation of Martin Luther King ever!

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22496017)
I have no problem with Will Smith playing the genie, that makes more sense than a white genie .

What I said.

King Mark 07-05-2019 07:10 AM

Only inbreds care what color mermaids and genies are in Disney cartoons.

RedFred 07-05-2019 07:33 AM

Showing outrage over a black mermaid while justifying putting kids in cages says everything there is to know about OneDumbHo.

Bladewire 07-05-2019 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22496017)
I have no problem with Will Smith playing the genie, that makes more sense than a white genie .


The genie from Aladdin has always been BLUE you fucking idiot. He's never been black or white.

You literally will talk shit lies out of your ass on any fucking topic ANY topic. You have no problem spreading lies of any sort to fit your hate agenda.

escorpio 07-05-2019 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22496064)
Showing outrage over a black mermaid while justifying putting kids in cages says everything there is to know about OneDumbHo.

Calling me "Pedro" and then refusing to answer why says everything there is to know about you and your nutless existence.

blackmonsters 07-05-2019 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JesseQuinn (Post 22495842)
if we had to suck up Johnny Depp as Tonto I think y'all can survive



:1orglaugh

beerptrol 07-05-2019 12:56 PM

Pic of the OP

https://i.imgur.com/L7rhKc7.jpg

RedFred 07-05-2019 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 22496074)
Calling me "Pedro" and then refusing to answer why says everything there is to know about you and your nutless existence.


https://memeshappen.com/media/create...f-The-Wall.jpg

escorpio 07-05-2019 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22496251)
I don't have the balls to own the shit I spew.

Fixed! :winkwink:

RedFred 07-05-2019 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 22496256)
Fixed! :winkwink:

http://memecrunch.com/meme/1BGD0/hey-pedro/image.jpg

escorpio 07-05-2019 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22496277)

More childish nonsense from the guy with no balls.


Why are you calling me "Pedro"? Let's hear it...:1orglaugh


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