I just got a payment from MadCheddar via Paxum

thanks for the headsup, hopefully mine comes next

I am waiting too, not a lot of money, but enough to notice

2019-08-16 Pending Not Yet Paid Not Paid $118.69 Paxum Details
2019-11-01 Pending Not Yet Paid Not Paid $113.70 Paxum Details
2020-01-16 Pending Not Yet Paid Not Paid $102.10 Paxum Details

so im not the only one the are not paying, geesh

Looks like I'm not alone.....

1st off, I really hate that I'm "Taking It To The Boards" but I don't know what else to do.

Around mid October I noticed I was missing a payment from MadCheddar.com that shows being sent to me via check on 2019-07-08. I have no record of ever receiving this check and my account is set to Paxum for payouts (nothing over there, either). So I started to try and contact them...

2019-10-18 - I emailed all the info to Darren, who had helped me with a previous problem. No reply.

2019-10-23 - Sent a message to Support via NATS. Status "unread"

2019-10-29 - Emailed Darren again. No reply.

2019-11-01 - A 2nd payment shows up in NATS:
Status: Pending
Payment Sent: Not Yet Paid
Method: Paxum

2019-11-04 - Sent a 2nd message to Support via NATS. Status "unread"

2019-11-04 - Contacted James via Skype & sent him all the info. He told me he'd hit up accounting

2019-11-12 - Checked in with James on Skype. He hadn't heard anything back.

2019-11-18 - Checked in with James on Skype. No reply.

2019-11-25 - Checked in with James on Skype. No reply.

2019-12-03 - Checked in with James on Skype. He said accounting is aware, but hasn't heard back from them.

2019-12-17 - James status on Skype says "Away from the 16th to the 28th" Sent a 3rd message to Support via NATS. Status "unread"

2020-01-10 - Asked another webmaster to get involved.

2020-01-15 - Sent all this to James one last time before I posted. He said he still hasn't heard anything, but followed up with accounting today & made this an urgent request.

2020-01-23 - Checked in with James on Skype. No reply.

All I want is the money I'm owed and I don't know what else to do, so while I hate doing this, here I am...

Thanks for reading,
Mark - Greenguy

So Im definitely not the only one that they owe money.

Sad to say, but I hope more people like Greenguy who have payment issues with MadCheddar will speak out in this thread, and hopefully we all get paid.

No response .. I hope you get your money back

money back...

stop sig spamming, you are clueless :321GFY

You don't want to Come to get and Multiply your TRAFFIC?! http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ons/icon10.gif

got some new feedback yesterday from a new support person, fingers crossed

Can you post or send me their contact info?

same here

Greenguy!! Yey!!!

got a new response from a different madcheddar representative

How do other people get in contact with them?

Looks like someone removed the post with the way's to contact them?

User which posted e-mails requested to delete those posts plus replies related to those e-mails.

:thumbsup

kinda odd that those email contacts were removed.

did you get your cheddar

They probably requested from poster to remove it.

Doesn't matter anyway, not one of them responded.

nope, still no cheddar

new person from madchedder says they are looking into things... fingers crossed

:thumbsup

have many times have you said this? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

you are owed small amount, your time must be cheap if you keep wasting it with these ignorants.

Pretty sure MadChedder is having money problems. I heard Lansky was stealing investor money to fund his extravagant lifestyle. Dont belvie the hype, he wasn't bought out he was forced out. These guys are spending 20k on shoots and blowing money out the ying yang. If they had the money to pay their affiliates they would. Thats also why they are suing everyone six ways from Sunday for pirating their content.

Don’t they have a large tube site, too?

hope you get your cheddar

That's preposterous. You are thinking of Malibu Media.

VMG has 6 big sites in operation for years. At their scale and size, the cashflow would have bankers kissing their asses even if they needed to borrow money to buy Greg out in a lump sum (and there are other ways of buyout at such large scales, that Nathan/Fabian formerly discussed on GFY)

As noted earlier in this thread, nearly every affiliate program has raised payout minimums. It costs more to deal with little affiliates and little payouts.

Has MadChed always paid, or did they only stop paying recently?

No reason for MadChed to NOT to be paying their affiliates if thier cashflow/expenses are strong. They either dont care, or are trying to save money. NaughtyAmeria for example ran into money problems and stopped paying. All I know is Lansky was paid to leave according to several people.

They have always paid. A few people in this thread said they were paid recently.
If they wanted to save money, couldn't they just shoot one less $20k scene - as you said - over losing some small affiliate's, $200 payout?

The friction with Lansky is well known in the california production community, but that's a stretch to assume that means fiscal issues which no one knows anything about. But based on simple logic, there are much more effective ways for a company to handle cost overruns, such as reducing the budget on productions, or even laying off staff. Those are far greater expenses than a $200 affiliate cheque.

Yeah good point. Maybe they have scaled back on production, Who the hell knows. Its just very strange a big brand like that not paying out affiliate commissions, even if small. What other big program is not paying besides them? I cant think of any.

Badoink. A few years ago, they made the minimum super high, like $500 - $1000 . Pissed off a lot of affiliates, including trade partners.

I dunnno. Their margins have to be paper thin to do that. They have investors involved, 20k shoots, revenue is certainly down from their peak 3-4 years ago, even with adding additional sites. Lansky is now gone. You will see them cutting production costs down soon if they haven't already. They are super aggressive with missed sales also, I can see they are doing everything they can to convert sales, recently adding push notifications to their tours and being crazy aggressive with their mailers. I would assume they are billing $200k monthly across all their sites right now. Dont get me wrong they have the best content ever shot in history, and they've reached meme status, so I'm not knocking them. Im just saying, I think the brand isnt what it used to be and they are probably over leveraged - which explains why they raised the affiliate payouts and now have stopped paying affiliates.

How did you arrive at this number?

Let's assume a $20 per member billing average because they run discounts and partner trades, that would put them at 10k members, making them smaller than JT's glamcore sites, and that's not including cross-sales, upsells, DVDs, etc.

Public records show litigation alone, can bring in over $2 million/year

200k 😆

....

How is their tube Porntube doing?

I think its a reasonable assumption that they're doing 200-400 sales a day including rebills with a $40/join average when you include the yearly memberships. I'm just sayin.

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