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Klen	10-16-2019 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22544920)

can you send an example URL?

there are many possibilities that you can not see it

1. you use an older chrome version
2. you switched this feature off
3. you explizit allowed it on this site

i have never seen this not taking effect and i see such issues a few times per week.

Plotwist: google is prone to mistakes :1orglaugh

AmateurFlix

10-16-2019 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick_awt (Post 22544916)

Weird.

Might be stupid questions, but....
Have you double checked the exact URL Google threatened to block ?

http://www and http://
https://www and https://

Google treats those differently. I know from my own 'abusive experience' notifications.

and perhaps was the notification for a sub page or you assumed it was your index page?
eg. https://sample.com/chimp.html

That could be it - I'm just going from memory here as I've long since deleted the emails - but I believe that in all cases they displayed a gallery page in their email, and I'm not sure whether I tested it on that very same page, or more likely the root of the domain.

I didn't have https set up on any of them so it wouldn't be that.

Nick_awt

10-16-2019 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmateurFlix (Post 22544948)

Log into your webmaster tools via the abusive experiences section.
https://www.google.com/webmasters/to...nce-unverified

Then choose a verified property from the drop down menu.

That will allow you check for any failing URL's/domains etc.

AmateurFlix

10-16-2019 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick_awt (Post 22544975)

thanks, but as I mentioned above, I have removed the pop-under codes for unrelated reasons, so testing now wouldn't be meaningful anyway. As you suggested, most likely I tested on the root rather than the page in question.

celandina

10-17-2019 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by itx (Post 22544042)

I receive an email from Google that considers the popups or popunders as "Abusive experience" is considered as "Unexpected Click Areas" if you're flagged they blocked in Google Chrome *all your ads* and all your links with target "_blank" https://support.google.com/webtools/answer/7347327

it was about time :thumbsup

CaptainHowdy

10-17-2019 08:35 AM

Google is not your friend . . .

AmeliaG

10-17-2019 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22544065)

Also Added " Navigational TAb menu " if it's sent users outside of the site you will be penalize.

Working on few site since the weekend to remove those :mad:

Misleading Site Behaviour Page features such as scroll bars, play buttons, 'next' arrows, close buttons or navigation links that lead to an ad or landing page when clicked.

Also i got some issue with Google about the Download/ Tracking link in video page using wp-script on a new site , new domain, new install LOL.
I had to disable that download link to Pass the review .
https://gfy.com/22537526-post812.html

What the actual fuck?

askjoe

10-17-2019 12:11 PM

It happened to me 3 times and it were 2 things..
Banner with play button and popunder
looking like microsoft support (tech suport landers)
It could possibly happen again to you.

I switched to another network and all good.
Network i use now is this
and it never happened to me again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by itx (Post 22544042)

"Unexpected Click Areas" if you're flagged they blocked in Google Chrome *all your ads*

"Unexpected Click Areas" .. That says it all..

Voodoo

10-17-2019 02:18 PM

People still use popups?

Klen	10-17-2019 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Voodoo (Post 22545477)

People still use popups?

Yes. Problem senor ?

Brian mike

10-17-2019 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 22545337)

What the actual fuck?

I cant sell nav tab anymore :mad:
But i have created a new zone right under menu i move link there for now instead.

itx	10-17-2019 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22545316)

it was about time :thumbsup

Yes, indeed.

itx	10-17-2019 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by askjoe (Post 22545417)

I'm not sure if other code can comply with "Unexpected Click Areas", Thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Voodoo (Post 22545477)

People still use popups?

Check the big tubes.

Voodoo

10-18-2019 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 22545488)

Yes. Problem senor ?

No problemo. I just thought those were mostly blocked these days.

thommy

10-18-2019 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22545510)

I cant sell nav tab anymore :mad:
But i have created a new zone right under menu i move link there for now instead.

i am not 100% sure if this is the reason.

if you have a popunder on the same page it would normally also execute in the space between the navigation spots.

if this is not the case you can also put a little "sponsored" graphic in front of it and it will be accepted.

but the new thing google comes up now is MUCH MORE terrific than that as they are blocking all third party cookies when they are not send on https and with the samesite
extension in the next chrome version.

this is in fact the end of each domain with no https and any kind of external content that needs a cookie and it will also effect nearly all external codes or cookies what are miss configured (90% are miss-configured)

this will be the next big "OHHHHHH the biz is going down" and it will take years til the last one found out why.

Brian mike

10-18-2019 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22545763)

Possibly, Pop and navigation link was on the same report/ site. I guess you could be right.

Will try the " sponsored " graphic :thumbsup

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22545763)

but the new thing google comes up now is MUCH MORE terrific than that as they are blocking all third party cookies when they are not send on https and with the samesite extension in the next chrome version.

this is in fact the end of each domain with no https and any kind of external content that needs a cookie and it will also effect nearly all external codes or cookies what are miss configured (90% are miss-configured)

I see LOTS of site still not https / SSL . Thats not looking good for them, i can imagine many will see their income Drop.

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22545763)

this will be the next big "OHHHHHH the biz is going down" and it will take years til the last one found out why.

:1orglaugh

Klen	10-18-2019 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Voodoo (Post 22545748)

No problemo. I just thought those were mostly blocked these days.

Pop ad CPM network industry is multi-million industry, do you think they will just say "ok we wont sell our only and main product and do what google want" or found a counter - measure ?

itx	10-18-2019 07:47 PM

If Google want blocks big companies can do it, due non compilance, is a big and expensive war.

itx	10-18-2019 07:54 PM

Big reputable adult company with their legal team have fought against G, to protect its affiliates and their own revenue and they lost. *ANGRY*

emmasexytime

10-20-2019 12:32 AM

put a chaturbate popunder on voyeurboss to test and traffic dropped 90%.

Removed pop code and in 2 days traffic back to normal.

AmateurFlix

10-20-2019 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22544920)

i have never seen this not taking effect and i see such issues a few times per week.

Well, it looks like they finally implemented what they were threatening; months after they claimed they would, and long after all pop-unders had been removed.

This is NOT limited to just the one page mentioned in their email, it's across the entire site.

thommy

10-20-2019 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmateurFlix (Post 22546576)

for me this looks now like software dedected.

in the past they have been sending videos and screenshots where you could see what EXACTLY is meant. but a few weeks ago they stopped it.

it is much harder now to find out what is meant and what one could do against it.

right now I see complaints on "invisible click areas" that do not even execute a pop.

I have to investigate this issue a bit deeper - I am not 100% sure what is going on here right now and this makes me crazy.

thommy

10-20-2019 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emmasexytime (Post 22546446)

put a chaturbate popunder on voyeurboss to test and traffic dropped 90%.

Removed pop code and in 2 days traffic back to normal.

but this was not because of google or chrome - these are technical issues in the popcode.

I have seen multiple sites where google did already block all ads, pops and target blank links and they still had the top positions in google and did not lose ANY traffic.

thommy

10-20-2019 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22545766)

I see LOTS of site still not https / SSL . Thats not looking good for them, i can imagine many will see their income Drop.

I think ssl is not even the biggest problem here.
there will be still http sites with traffic linking in something on https (this way it works not the other way round) but you know how many affiliates are relaying on cookies.

it is not only retargeting that will have a problem it will effect all sites that store the affiliate id in a cookie when the cookie is set wrong.

i made a few tests today with some domains and landingpages and i can tell you that not even 2% of them did comply with this rules.

you can test it easy (even with gfy) by opening developer tools in chrome chose elements and look at the warnings. after that do it with every page you want and you will be astonished.

wait til the next chrome version and observe the tears.
this will be one of the biggest dropdown bombs in the past 10 years.

AmateurFlix

10-20-2019 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22546580)

It is possible that my site was penalized for "invisible click areas" because I use code like below to wrap a video feed on my pages. I just noticed that it is allowing clicks on the full width of the page, even in whitespace outside of the video feed:

Code:

<script type='text/javascript' src='//code.jquery.com/jquery-1.9.1.js'></script>

<style type='text/css'>

.my_container{position:relative;}

.my_overlay{top:0;left:0;width:99%;height:100%;position:absolute;cursor:pointer;}

</style>

<script type='text/javascript'>

$(window).load(function(){

$('.my_overlay').click(function(){window.open('http://mydomain.com/');})

});

</script>

<div class='my_container'>

        <iframe src='blah' height=528 width=850 style='border: none;'></iframe>

        <div class='my_overlay'></div>

</div>

Software detection would definitely pick up on that, humans would be unlikely to try clicking on it due to the location being near the bottom of the page and isolated horizontally.

thommy

10-20-2019 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmateurFlix (Post 22546587)

Code:

<script type='text/javascript' src='//code.jquery.com/jquery-1.9.1.js'></script>

<style type='text/css'>

.my_container{position:relative;}

.my_overlay{top:0;left:0;width:99%;height:100%;position:absolute;cursor:pointer;}

</style>

<script type='text/javascript'>

$(window).load(function(){

$('.my_overlay').click(function(){window.open('http://mydomain.com/');})

});

</script>

<div class='my_container'>

        <iframe src='blah' height=528 width=850 style='border: none;'></iframe>

        <div class='my_overlay'></div>

</div>

Software detection would definitely pick up on that, humans would be unlikely to try clicking on it due to the location being near the bottom of the page and isolated horizontally.

if you did not change $('.my_overlay') to anything else even a adblocker will detect and block it.
if is is software detected and not human it is quite tricky to work around that.

AmateurFlix

10-20-2019 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22546592)

if you did not change $('.my_overlay') to anything else even a adblocker will detect and block it.
if is is software detected and not human it is quite tricky to work around that.

if you're referring to the variable name: my_overlay
that was a different text on my site, I changed it to this before posting on gfy so it's not identifiable.

incredibleworkethic

10-20-2019 01:08 PM

I changed mine to bind to A HREFS only and the threat of penalty went away.

thommy

10-21-2019 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by incredibleworkethic (Post 22546640)

I changed mine to bind to A HREFS only and the threat of penalty went away.

yes that seems to be the way a and img is not a problem.

the problem is in some popunder scripts that are always creating a clickable layer area.
even when it is not executing anything google complains it.

also tonns of complains with the same issue where the script is changes but cached through cloudflare or other services.

seems like a lot of work is coming.

Denny

10-21-2019 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by incredibleworkethic (Post 22546640)

I changed mine to bind to A HREFS only and the threat of penalty went away.

It seems I'll need to do this soon too. Do you use AdSpyglass?

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