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Paul Markham 10-25-2019 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by JSWENSON (Post 22549352)
It is you who is completely stupid here. The fucking point is that you and several other idiots were running around crying about anyone that built a tube site, used a tube site or even talked good about them. The arguments were many and all were dumb but mostly "oh they'll get shut down!"

As if YouTube would allow laws to pass that could make that happen. As if it would be possible anyhow.

You are still here yapping about your amazing photography skills as if that should have carried you. Nobody thought your stuff was hot shit, you shot professional porn when very few did so your content was sold. The end.

And your disdain of webmasters is THE reason you failed at your own paysite. You're still repeating that you could just hire out the traffic help to students as if they would have the thousands of sites with millions of visits per day that webmasters as a whole had collectively way back then. 100% pure fucking get off my lawn stupidity but that is nothing new. I had always hoped you were trolling for fun and I still think you are but you've been repeating this moronic diatribe for so long that you must believe it.

No Paul, your part time foreign fucking students can't replicate the results of even 20 mid tier webmasters. I also believe you got 100-200 signups per week none. It didn't happen or you'd be riding around in sports cars fucking those Czech women you speak so highly of but nobody really wants to see on a large scale either.
Closing down porn tubes could be done by putting all porn behind membership areas. Mo credit card, no access to children. Not 100% but better than nothing, the reason governments don't is they can't be bothered.

As for your theory on students building sites. We have a lot of colleges and universities here in Brno that teach basic computer programming up to advanced systems development. Getting these people to build 1,000s of sites would be easy.

Show us your sites making 100 sign ups per week with millions of visits.

How much adapting did you do? Show us please.

JSWENSON
Adult Industry Sector
Software Programming

Why din't you adapt and open a paysite, with the content you shot and make some real money. Or is it only me who did't adapt?

King Mark 10-25-2019 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22549376)
But why can't you get this, I don't need to work, I don't want to work, my health isn't good enough to work even more than posting here.
Fair enough. Just remember that next time you want to ask these questions again. You ask, so answers come. That's kinda how forums work.

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So show us your live cam show which earns you $1,000s per scene.
I took a different route when I adapted. I'm in the royalties/publishing game now.

Also, social media marketing. I don't name drop, especially on gfy, but many of my clients can be found in my sig.

JSWENSON 10-25-2019 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22549379)
Closing down porn tubes could be done by putting all porn behind membership areas. Mo credit card, no access to children. Not 100% but better than nothing, the reason governments don't is they can't be bothered.
Idealistic hypotheticals are useless, you would never make everyone put content behind a paywall when some would build a tube for pure fun and others to cash in the billions left behind by people stuck in the 80s.

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As for your theory on students building sites. We have a lot of colleges and universities here in Brno that teach basic computer programming up to advanced systems development. Getting these people to build 1,000s of sites would be easy.
Claiming that random idiots you hire could send the traffic that webmasters, who own thousands of sites and have experience, is so laughably pathetic at this point. I really wish you'd try it publicly so we could all laugh.

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Show us your sites making 100 sign ups per week with millions of visits.
I promoted webcams and ACTUAL amateur girls. I still get regular checks from my efforts that ended in 2015 and have made more in porn than you did with your $3000 scenes.

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How much adapting did you do? Show us please.
I didn't have to adapt much. I promoted iFriends starting in 2001 and made a killing from then until now. All of my effort is still relevant because I saw the writing on the wall long before paysites went specialized, you were here bitching about low quality cam content when it was earning more money than you could ever dream of because IT'S WHAT PEOPLE WANT. I later ran the largest real amateur submitted video site on the internet until I sold it in 2015, it was reddit related so you can find it if you try hard enough. I promoted nothing there but Chaturbate and did amazing. I also adapted into mainstream big, offline stores and more and still rock out online daily. You?

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JSWENSON
Adult Industry Sector
Software Programming
Look at my post count. I haven't updated my profile in so long you know more about what's in it than I do. I still program my own shit mostly because I can't find what I need anywhere else but I've been an affiliate and site owner for far longer. I'm also not for hire.



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Why din't you adapt and open a paysite, with the content you shot and make some real money. Or is it only me who did't adapt?
I don't shoot content, I don't want a paysite. Cams paid better and are still paying better if you have a fucking clue. When Chaturbate launched I got back into actively working on adult because I knew it would be a juggernaut from the instant I saw it. Ask them how much they are raking in now because it's an endless line of trucks dumping money at their feet with content you'd scream isn't worthy.

The Porn Nerd 10-25-2019 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by JSWENSON (Post 22549825)
Idealistic hypotheticals are useless, you would never make everyone put content behind a paywall when some would build a tube for pure fun and others to cash in the billions left behind by people stuck in the 80s.



Claiming that random idiots you hire could send the traffic that webmasters, who own thousands of sites and have experience, is so laughably pathetic at this point. I really wish you'd try it publicly so we could all laugh.



I promoted webcams and ACTUAL amateur girls. I still get regular checks from my efforts that ended in 2015 and have made more in porn than you did with your $3000 scenes.



I didn't have to adapt much. I promoted iFriends starting in 2001 and made a killing from then until now. All of my effort is still relevant because I saw the writing on the wall long before paysites went specialized, you were here bitching about low quality cam content when it was earning more money than you could ever dream of because IT'S WHAT PEOPLE WANT. I later ran the largest real amateur submitted video site on the internet until I sold it in 2015, it was reddit related so you can find it if you try hard enough. I promoted nothing there but Chaturbate and did amazing. I also adapted into mainstream big, offline stores and more and still rock out online daily. You?



Look at my post count. I haven't updated my profile in so long you know more about what's in it than I do. I still program my own shit mostly because I can't find what I need anywhere else but I've been an affiliate and site owner for far longer. I'm also not for hire.





I don't shoot content, I don't want a paysite. Cams paid better and are still paying better if you have a fucking clue. When Chaturbate launched I got back into actively working on adult because I knew it would be a juggernaut from the instant I saw it. Ask them how much they are raking in now because it's an endless line of trucks dumping money at their feet with content you'd scream isn't worthy.

Don't even bother mate. You have to understand that, as a photographer and content producer, Paul is an enormous snob. Being British just adds to that feeling of natural superiority. I see it in ex-pats all the time here in Amsterdam. Being one, I can spot them and they are always the most arrogant gits in the pub. LOL

Paul dismisses anything he considers shit as 'content'. To him, if it's 'shit' then it's not really content, etc. He fancies himself an 'artist' deep down so anything that doesn't meet his hairy pre-1990's exploited under-nourished teens standards is unworthy of discussion. :1orglaugh

JSWENSON 10-25-2019 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22549833)
Don't even bother mate. You have to understand that, as a photographer and content producer, Paul is an enormous snob. Being British just adds to that feeling of natural superiority. I see it in ex-pats all the time here in Amsterdam. Being one, I can spot them and they are always the most arrogant gits in the pub. LOL

Paul dismisses anything he considers shit as 'content'. To him, if it's 'shit' then it's not really content, etc. He fancies himself an 'artist' deep down so anything that doesn't meet his hairy pre-1990's exploited under-nourished teens standards is unworthy of discussion. :1orglaugh
I know but forum is dead and I see some of his idiocy every time I come here and that has been true for longer than I remember. I wouldn't take his content for free if we were in 2009 but he somehow thinks it's the pinnacle of porn which is hilarious. The British smug mixed with lies about 200 signup weeks when everyone saw him struggle with that piece of shit website from day 1 is sad.

Paul Markham 10-25-2019 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by King Mark (Post 22549396)
Fair enough. Just remember that next time you want to ask these questions again. You ask, so answers come. That's kinda how forums work.



I took a different route when I adapted. I'm in the royalties/publishing game now.

Also, social media marketing. I don't name drop, especially on gfy, but many of my clients can be found in my sig.
I wanted serious answers relating to the time I was working.

Paul Markham 10-25-2019 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22549833)
Don't even bother mate. You have to understand that, as a photographer and content producer, Paul is an enormous snob. Being British just adds to that feeling of natural superiority. I see it in ex-pats all the time here in Amsterdam. Being one, I can spot them and they are always the most arrogant gits in the pub. LOL

Paul dismisses anything he considers shit as 'content'. To him, if it's 'shit' then it's not really content, etc. He fancies himself an 'artist' deep down so anything that doesn't meet his hairy pre-1990's exploited under-nourished teens standards is unworthy of discussion. :1orglaugh
So people telling me I'm broke, produced shit, couldn't sell should be allowed to carry on. The truth is you wouldn't be able to pick up sites with good content because they would be promoting themselves.

I will ignore your lies about my content because I would hate you to think I was an enormous snob and the most arrogant git in the pub.

pimpmaster9000 10-25-2019 11:17 PM
You should have transplanted your brain...this would have helped a LOT...

Paul Markham 10-25-2019 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JSWENSON (Post 22549825)
Idealistic hypotheticals are useless, you would never make everyone put content behind a paywall when some would build a tube for pure fun and others to cash in the billions left behind by people stuck in the 80s.
Putting up a paysite costs a lot more money than launching a tube or having 100s of sites with backlinks.

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Claiming that random idiots you hire could send the traffic that webmasters, who own thousands of sites and have experience, is so laughably pathetic at this point. I really wish you'd try it publicly so we could all laugh.
Who said random idiots?

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I promoted webcams and ACTUAL amateur girls. I still get regular checks from my efforts that ended in 2015 and have made more in porn than you did with your $3000 scenes.
Prove it.

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I didn't have to adapt much. I promoted iFriends starting in 2001 and made a killing from then until now. All of my effort is still relevant because I saw the writing on the wall long before paysites went specialized, you were here bitching about low quality cam content when it was earning more money than you could ever dream of because IT'S WHAT PEOPLE WANT. I later ran the largest real amateur submitted video site on the internet until I sold it in 2015, it was reddit related so you can find it if you try hard enough. I promoted nothing there but Chaturbate and did amazing. I also adapted into mainstream big, offline stores and more and still rock out online daily. You?
How do you know how much I earn?

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Look at my post count. I haven't updated my profile in so long you know more about what's in it than I do. I still program my own shit mostly because I can't find what I need anywhere else but I've been an affiliate and site owner for far longer. I'm also not for hire.
So you never adapted.


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I don't shoot content, I don't want a paysite. Cams paid better and are still paying better if you have a fucking clue. When Chaturbate launched I got back into actively working on adult because I knew it would be a juggernaut from the instant I saw it. Ask them how much they are raking in now because it's an endless line of trucks dumping money at their feet with content you'd scream isn't worthy.
Good paysites cost too much for you to even think of starting one.

And here we have it. A loud mouth blowhard lying about my work, proving nothing by showing nothing, because if he did we would see what he really does.

JSWENSON 10-25-2019 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22549886)
silly shit
"Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500.
All downloadable from Dropbox. PM me for a deal."

:1orglaugh

Paul Markham 10-25-2019 11:37 PM
What a pity all you one man bands couldn't come to me and team up taking the webmaster roll while I concentrated on producing content for a paysite or paysites. Maybe then you would understand that teen content hasn't changed much in 30 years, except for clothing,hairstyles and shaven pussies.

It's a pity you couldn't adapt, open a paysite with great content that sold. But you're all convinced I should have adapted and done what you did. Ferrari must of been having great sales with you all owning one.

Paul Markham 10-25-2019 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by JSWENSON (Post 22549887)
"Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500.
All downloadable from Dropbox. PM me for a deal."

:1orglaugh
It's priced so many of you can afford it.

Tell us exactly how teen content has changed in the last 30 years.

JSWENSON 10-25-2019 11:43 PM
By the way, I adapted by getting tons of awesome and realistically arranged props.

https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.E...AHaFj&pid=15.1

And shooting "the most beautiful girls in the world".

https://images.porninspector.com/p/p...4205557/05.jpg

JSWENSON 10-25-2019 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22549889)
What a pity all you one man bands couldn't come to me and team up taking the webmaster roll while I concentrated on producing content for a paysite or paysites. Maybe then you would understand that teen content hasn't changed much in 30 years, except for clothing,hairstyles and shaven pussies.

It's a pity you couldn't adapt, open a paysite with great content that sold. But you're all convinced I should have adapted and done what you did. Ferrari must of been having great sales with you all owning one.
Nobody liked your damn content, why is this so hard to understand? Every time I see a photo you shot it reminds me of the old ass Hustler magazines I found as a teen.

Paul Markham 10-26-2019 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by JSWENSON (Post 22549891)
By the way, I adapted by getting tons of awesome and realistically arranged props.

https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.E...AHaFj&pid=15.1

And shooting "the most beautiful girls in the world".

https://images.porninspector.com/p/p...4205557/05.jpg
Pulling out one set won't convince anyone.

There aren't enough most beautiful girls in the world. Who will do porn.

Stop revealing how little you know about content.

Paul Markham 10-26-2019 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by JSWENSON (Post 22549892)
Nobody liked your damn content, why is this so hard to understand? Every time I see a photo you shot it reminds me of the old ass Hustler magazines I found as a teen.
If no one liked it, how did I remain in business for so long?

We sold sets to Barely Legal during 2008 so once again you're clueless. We did shoot for magazines primarily because they paid far more, are you suggesting we shoot in the style the lowest payers paid.

When do you send traffic to the worst paying sites?

Ferus 10-26-2019 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22549886)


How do you know how much I earn?
.
1 - Your company records are public. Cost between $5 and $20 to get a report. On the darkweb your personale taxreturns cost $50
2 - if you check the old scanner communities, your content is rarely scanne, because its not in de and.
3 - your partner(the one with the dispatch job now) told me
4 - where you live proves the above 3. Its a shithole and anyone can confirm it on Google maps

RBM_Paul 10-26-2019 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22547421)
So how should we have adapted?

Opened an exclusive paysite? They must think that content producers we had the hard part mastered and doing the webmaster part was easy. Then where is their great website?

Close the magazine set side of the business and done what so many online content producers did. From home because who could afford studios and staff? Not AmazingContent.com who is quick to tell us how we failed.

Become an affiliate? Which must be very easy in their opinion.

Become a programmer? :upsidedow:upsidedow:upsidedow
He is selling... not sure to who I spoke with him a few days ago.

Roald 10-26-2019 08:09 AM
So did we figure out yet how we should have adapted?

thommy 10-26-2019 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by JSWENSON (Post 22549352)
It is you who is completely stupid here. The fucking point is that you and several other idiots were running around crying about anyone that built a tube site, used a tube site or even talked good about them. The arguments were many and all were dumb but mostly "oh they'll get shut down!"

As if YouTube would allow laws to pass that could make that happen. As if it would be possible anyhow.

You are still here yapping about your amazing photography skills as if that should have carried you. Nobody thought your stuff was hot shit, you shot professional porn when very few did so your content was sold. The end.

And your disdain of webmasters is THE reason you failed at your own paysite. You're still repeating that you could just hire out the traffic help to students as if they would have the thousands of sites with millions of visits per day that webmasters as a whole had collectively way back then. 100% pure fucking get off my lawn stupidity but that is nothing new. I had always hoped you were trolling for fun and I still think you are but you've been repeating this moronic diatribe for so long that you must believe it.

No Paul, your part time foreign fucking students can't replicate the results of even 20 mid tier webmasters. I also believe you got 100-200 signups per week none. It didn't happen or you'd be riding around in sports cars fucking those Czech women you speak so highly of but nobody really wants to see on a large scale either.
nothing to add on that.

on one site he thinks the tubes killed the market (what is definitely not the case), than he comes up with ideas to put all porn behind paywalls and give the complete market to the indian, chinese, turkisch and russians that give a shit on laws and finally he come up with the idea that an ameteur can pay other ameteurs to make professional work.

there is no word for his stupidy, ignorance and unprofessionality.
the only thing he is good for is: read his crap and do the opposite - at least you prevented one big error by doing it this way.

thommy 10-26-2019 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 22549910)
1 - Your company records are public. Cost between $5 and $20 to get a report. On the darkweb your personale taxreturns cost $50
2 - if you check the old scanner communities, your content is rarely scanne, because its not in de and.
3 - your partner(the one with the dispatch job now) told me
4 - where you live proves the above 3. Its a shithole and anyone can confirm it on Google maps
fuck you got it cheaper - i paid 29,95

JSWENSON 10-26-2019 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22549990)
nothing to add on that.

on one site he thinks the tubes killed the market (what is definitely not the case), than he comes up with ideas to put all porn behind paywalls and give the complete market to the indian, chinese, turkisch and russians that give a shit on laws and finally he come up with the idea that an ameteur can pay other ameteurs to make professional work.

there is no word for his stupidy, ignorance and unprofessionality.
the only thing he is good for is: read his crap and do the opposite - at least you prevented one big error by doing it this way.
My favorite is that he used the paysite claims to reinforce his by then very old claims that affiliates take all the money for no work. So he got 100-200 signups per week but "shut down because 50% to affiliates was too much" and on content that was paid for decades prior. :1orglaugh

And someone should remind him that 200 tracked signups in a week = piles of untracked signups due to no cookies, new devices used, type ins, branding, boosted search results and everything else that would cause sales to outpace referrals. Literally the reasons programs could pay so much for signups and he's oblivious to it or pretends to be. :upsidedow

The Porn Nerd 10-26-2019 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by JSWENSON (Post 22550012)
My favorite is that he used the paysite claims to reinforce his by then very old claims that affiliates take all the money for no work. So he got 100-200 signups per week but "shut down because 50% to affiliates was too much" and on content that was paid for decades prior. :1orglaugh

And someone should remind him that 200 tracked signups in a week = piles of untracked signups due to no cookies, new devices used, type ins, branding, boosted search results and everything else that would cause sales to outpace referrals. Literally the reasons programs could pay so much for signups and he's oblivious to it or pretends to be. :upsidedow
200 signups a week is around 30 a day. NO WAY Paul was doing 30 sales a day. As you point out, if he WAS doing 30 joins a day he would be making serious bank, which he is not and never has.

Maybe all these signups came from his 'magic join links' eh? :1orglaugh

Klen 10-26-2019 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22549992)
fuck you got it cheaper - i paid 29,95
Lol did you really paid for report to see P.M. revenues :1orglaugh

JSWENSON 10-26-2019 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22550021)
200 signups a week is around 30 a day. NO WAY Paul was doing 30 sales a day. As you point out, if he WAS doing 30 joins a day he would be making serious bank, which he is not and never has.

Maybe all these signups came from his 'magic join links' eh? :1orglaugh
He just made that number up, would be surprised if he got 2 joins counting his own test signup.

MaDalton 10-26-2019 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22549992)
fuck you got it cheaper - i paid 29,95
if you understand Czech - they are free

NatalieK 10-26-2019 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22549348)
If you think this is anything more than amateur you're delusional. My Astral Blue scenes were more professional than this. No decent audio, No decent lighting, no decent camera work, not even a camera on a tripod.

There are 1,000s of girls who can give "excellent blowjobs, handjobs, fucked more than 10 guys at parties & have always enjoyed sex". But fewer cameramen who know how to film it.
first, letŽs get this straight, this clip above was showing, even in intense 40c with sun beating down, I can model professional.

WeŽve had a studio in Bournemouth, lighting, mics, we hired it out to other producers and besides, if you had worked with me, youŽd know iŽm more than capable of shooting a few scenes for companies like Brazzers, all apart from waiting around, I do get bored, I prefer to get on with the sex, get the scene finished and go and enjoy my day :2 cents:

thommy 10-26-2019 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 22550023)
Lol did you really paid for report to see P.M. revenues :1orglaugh
well, i like to discuss on facts and not from "somebody told me"

thommy 10-26-2019 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22550107)
if you understand Czech - they are free
i prefered to pay the 29,95 instead of learning czech.

at least paul can now be proud that someone bought his records for a higher price than his content :-)

NatalieK 10-26-2019 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22549833)
Don't even bother mate. You have to understand that, as a photographer and content producer, Paul is an enormous snob. Being British just adds to that feeling of natural superiority. I see it in ex-pats all the time here in Amsterdam. Being one, I can spot them and they are always the most arrogant gits in the pub. LOL

Paul dismisses anything he considers shit as 'content'. To him, if it's 'shit' then it's not really content, etc. He fancies himself an 'artist' deep down so anything that doesn't meet his hairy pre-1990's exploited under-nourished teens standards is unworthy of discussion. :1orglaugh
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22549884)
So people telling me I'm broke, produced shit, couldn't sell should be allowed to carry on. The truth is you wouldn't be able to pick up sites with good content because they would be promoting themselves.

I will ignore your lies about my content because I would hate you to think I was an enormous snob and the most arrogant git in the pub.
PN is correct, you said that British women have nothing on the girls you were shooting, and this is why you were travelling...

and yet, IŽd already said, youŽd have probably made more of a business if youŽd have not been up your ass trying to fly about to "scout" girls, and had just remained shooting British amateur and British porn wannabes, and possibly British professionals, true pornstars...

anyway, Both Gary & I appreciate youŽve been in the business for years and also think a lot of you for the dedication you have given to the business. It would be great for you to just sit back and think, maybe you could have been a little less arrogant and made it further.

Either way, youŽve done well, youŽll be one of the remembered for the adult biz :2 cents:

Ferus 10-26-2019 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22550107)
if you understand Czech - they are free
Also the old ones? I could only get like the last 5 for free (thank to google trade)

JSWENSON 10-26-2019 02:34 PM
Anyone remember the old PM bullshit of asking this question in 10,000 ways...

"What's more important, content or traffic?"

Then arguing with anyone that said traffic. Still got my traffic and still making money, how bout you guys? :1orglaugh

King Mark 10-26-2019 02:35 PM
Damn Paul...

https://media.tenor.com/images/961db...4bbc/tenor.gif

thommy 10-26-2019 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by JSWENSON (Post 22550012)
My favorite is that he used the paysite claims to reinforce his by then very old claims that affiliates take all the money for no work. So he got 100-200 signups per week but "shut down because 50% to affiliates was too much" and on content that was paid for decades prior. :1orglaugh

And someone should remind him that 200 tracked signups in a week = piles of untracked signups due to no cookies, new devices used, type ins, branding, boosted search results and everything else that would cause sales to outpace referrals. Literally the reasons programs could pay so much for signups and he's oblivious to it or pretends to be. :upsidedow

well - thatŽs around 80 k per month, after aprox. 2 years in revenue if the site costs 30 dollar per month. with 30 signups per day and an average of 25% signoff-quote (or holding time 4 month) the maximum number of members can be around 2.700.
if you calculate here 50% affiliates 25% server and payment an owner should live quite good - especially when he does not have content costs.

but IF he have to buy the content for the price paul thinks to be fair - he will not make a cent.

so IF affiliate programm paul buys content from content producer paul, affiliate paul can not make money so it does not make sense to keep the affiliate programm running.
but if content producer paul can not sell his content to affiliate paul he need to find another affiliate programm that is willing to spend ALL their profit to buy content from paul on a fair price.

what a wonderful world where only paul makes money.

Klen 10-26-2019 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22550154)
i prefered to pay the 29,95 instead of learning czech.

at least paul can now be proud that someone bought his records for a higher price than his content :-)
Well if you have too much money.. hit me on skype i have some things to sell :1orglaugh

Klen 10-26-2019 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by JSWENSON (Post 22550183)
Anyone remember the old PM bullshit of asking this question in 10,000 ways...

"What's more important, content or traffic?"

Then arguing with anyone that said traffic. Still got my traffic and still making money, how bout you guys? :1orglaugh
Well, he was partially right, as better content does make more money. However, key difference between owning content and owning traffic, is how when you have traffic you just need to sell it to ad network and you will make money no matter what, while with content is not the same case.

thommy 10-26-2019 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by JSWENSON (Post 22550183)
Anyone remember the old PM bullshit of asking this question in 10,000 ways...

"What's more important, content or traffic?"

Then arguing with anyone that said traffic. Still got my traffic and still making money, how bout you guys? :1orglaugh
THIS !!!!

I remember the time when google came up and everybody thought they are stupid to give free service and free traffic.

imagine what would google be today with paul as manager.

MaDalton 10-26-2019 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 22550181)
Also the old ones? I could only get like the last 5 for free (thank to google trade)
I won't post the links in public

and i have said it before: Paul gave me some good tips in 2003 when we really had no clue and for that I am grateful

then again he should have used his legacy to educate the next generation on things he knows - not things he clearly does not know.

But for some reason he insists that he has some kind of universal knowledge about the porn industry while about everyone else knows he's wrong about a lot.

thommy 10-26-2019 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 22550194)
Well, he was partially right, as better content does make more money. However, key difference between owning content and owning traffic, is how when you have traffic you just need to sell it to ad network and you will make money no matter what, while with content is not the same case.
you can use traffic to sell everything - the content just have to attract the user.

look on this site

https://weather.com/

and tell me if you find just one advertisement that have ANYTHING to do with weather.

and well content....hmmmm...does also not make much sense because i doubt that people go to a the weather side that show the best weather always.
usability is here the goal.

btw. did you know that weather data are copyright protected ?

so why do they buy it and not sell it to their users ???

paul would !

thommy 10-26-2019 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 22550193)
Well if you have too much money.. hit me on skype i have some things to sell :1orglaugh
sorry - regarding to paul this have been my last 29,95 :-)


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