Its amazing that he made money at all with his shooter skills LOL

I argued it was traffic. If you have traffic you can sell anything....

However, these days it's all changed. It's about information. A click is a click, and it's only worth one click. An email address is... Countless amounts of clicks. If I get your email address, I can send you email every day until the cows come home.

At YNOT Mail we have a lot of large customers and it's amazing what they do. They can segment things out so that they know exactly what you like.... They track what you opened, and what you clicked through on... You might have signed up to a list for lesbians but surprise you clicked on a link for gay men so maybe there is something you didn't want to tell us, so now you are on a list for gay porn. Or maybe you signed up for a Republican email list but you keep clicking on Democrat stuff so they will send you that from now on.

correct - but to get on this emailadress it starts with ..... A CLICK

correct but not new
emailmarketing was always a great tool if you understand it.

and yes the new generation of marketers indeed knows the value of this emailadress
in the meantime. when they sell a product or get a signup it is the emailadress, the phonenumer or the whatsapp contact that makes ist so valuable.

but this is something that paul can not adapt because he do not even understand it.
he does not even know the difference between CPM and CPC and he thinks that an adimpression is a visit and if you ask him what eCPA is he will possibly tell you it is a new political party and ROI is the brother of Siegfried.

Based on what has been posted here before, Paul never paid more than $20 to his Czech models. $500 is probably his annual spending on photoshoots.

Again another idiot who claims to know my turnover. 30 sign ups a day is only profitable if the content is free and little work is done. Sharing it with affiliates brings the profit margin down.

Still it's good to know what you think is serious bank.

Then show us content of you worthy of being on Brazzers. Then we will believe you.

We shot for magazines, they wanted attractive girls, teens and new faces. Which is why so many other shooters came here. You talk as if I was doing something different, I was merely following the trend.

No the major difference between owning good content is the cost of production and skills it takes to create.

You can get traffic with less skills working from home. Don't say it's difficult as most here think I could have adapted. Very few can shoot good content.

Also you're at the mercy of what a sponsor gives you or the cheap crap you have to buy in. Plus pages of text generate little to pages of great content, also few conversions come from pages of text.

No one own traffic, it's surfers you have to convince to click on a link, go to a join page and buy a membership. That's not owning.

We worked for magazines as our primary business they were as good as dead when we retired.

If I had to work we would have shot something to the level Perfect Gonzo and others were shooting. Girls fucking themselves with large dildos vaginal and anal. Mostly boy/girl and lesbian. Whether we had opened a paysite or sold it via the stores or exclusive would be a hard decision because Tubes were starting to hurt so many.

What am I wrong about? Programming, webmastering most certainly not my field and I never comment in those threads. Porn is something I've worked in for decades, you learn a lot in that time.

You are out of your mind... you dont even have 30% of the skills needed for that.. not to mention none of your models had skills/looks to match. And then there is the preprod/prod work... even the makeup would be out of your league

If you have traffic, which you get by using text, webmaster techniques, emails. Then without content it clicks away, without good content it's not interested on clicking a link to a tour and without a good tour you'll sell nothing.

Countless clicks aren't making any money unless there is content to convert it into visits then buys.

What's the conversion ratio on emails? 0-100,000. Conversions come with content, the better the content the more conversions and getting good content is the hard part, costs, skills, experience.

Why people still debate this in the time of Tubes shows they haven't adapted, still stuck in the times pre 2000; Tubes only get 1 billion a day because they have content.

They seem to be saying I should have becomes a webmaster, given up what I knew and enjoyed because being a self employed webmaster would make more money.

Because they talk as if every webmaster was making a fortune.

There it is. He doesn't comment on anything but photography then tells you how unimportant traffic is without good content (presumption being his is good).

Doesn't make a fuck Paul, if I can get the clicks I can find good content to send it to. Odds are, I got the clicks from good content in the first place.

As for your cost of opening a porn site, some guy on here has his entire content package listed on Dropbox for a few hundred bucks and thinks it's some of the best around. Maybe start your paysite with that and just pay a couple of students to send the millions of targeted clicks that 20 mid tier webmasters could send.

and you really think that the tubes have killed the magazines?
the mags start to sie when internet came up already.

and why the fuck you are always referring to met-art?
do they do such content ? NO ! the NEVER did

you made a decent life before the internet. not a good life.
you never learned how internet is working - not from the tech side and not from the marketing side.

when internet came up you was already fucked with what you know (as you confirmed here in your first sentence). but you were lucky enough that at that time hardly anyone produced anything themselves and even the licensees of the big labels refused to sell to the internet. that's what kept you afloat for a few years, but that's all.

today millions of people can do what you can do and most of them can do it even better, cheaper, smarter, and more imaginative.

tell me a law of nature that will protect you from drowning in such an environment.

you were a one-eyed one among the blind and as the sighted became more and more you were the one-eyed one among the sighted.

if you only have one eye, the question how to adapt the 2nd eye is not worth asking. one eye does not grow by itself - just as little as missing brain mass grows back.

see - the thing is, and I always openly admitted that, we tried the whole B2C thing and failed miserably.

We did DVD production, we tried websites - actually our sites are still online and now that they are managed by someone else, they make some extra money on the side: CzechSuperStars.com - Passsite

But what I also know, is that on the B2B production side we did pretty well for more than a decade.

And because of that I was able to leave the porn business and have the funds to invest in a totally new and different business.

Because I wanted to but also because I know that the business is fundamentally changing from the old structure of people like us producing something which is then consumed by many to performers taking their business into their own hands.

Also because many of them realized that being paid peanuts for a handful of scenes which then go all over the place and ruin their lifes is not the way to go anymore.

What you fail to acknowledge, but what everyone else understands, is that just because people like you or me are in decline, it does not mean that the whole industry is shrinking. Because it isn't.

And no, you could not have done what Perfect Gonzo did, neither could we.

Paul; how many have have bought your "blowout deal" 2-4-10?

The only reason 100,00s of millions surf porn every day is content. So no content no traffic. The only reason they stay is content. They don't click a link, see a tour, join is content. No content no money.

The better the content the more traffic and money a site will get, from self generated and affiliates.

Because affiliates get given the content, doesn't mean it didn't cost someone money to create. The argument that some can make money from using shit content shows what's wrong with the industry and people going for the fast buck. Turning off future buys.

The argument 30 joins a day is serious bank is stupid. It costs more than 30 joins a day to create good content on a continuous scale.

There are many more reasons content is king but I've given up trying to persuade people who will only work as affiliates for sponsors who give them content, have good content to convert people and spend a lot on content to retain them.

you are an idiot - do you think that 100s of million are searching for porn?

30 signups per day would mean that your revenues is around 5 times higher as the revenue you ever had.

you are a dumb and you talk about things that you don´t understand so better shut up, old moron.

Do you want to know the secret to selling content via a paysite? Here it is, take notes (Paul):

Tell an interesting story.

That's IT. Does not matter if the content is amateur, pro, 4k, SD, total shit or brilliant. The STORY of the content/site is what contextualizes the content and thus sells it.

Next.

It's hard to be an idiot in 17 ways in a single comment but you manage to pull it off every time.

If I sent a million people looking for porn to weight loss pills, get rich quick schemes or t-shirts I would make some money. If you published 1 million of the best images and videos ever seen on your personal blog you'd make fuck all.

When I got into this business in 2001 I posted 5 or 6 paragraph pages with 10 links to ifriends and used a SINGLE 600x800 image of my clothed wife. It promoted ifriends the site, the idea, the concept of girls getting naked on camera. I made $900 in 3 days and the following weeks check was $5,200. I didn't get to GFY until years later but even then I ran into several others that promoted the same things in very freakishly similar ways. A lot of this was due to my sites being linked from clickcash as a top affiliate and being copied 1000 times. Over the years revshare was added, other sites came and went and we cashed in for nearly 20 years now.

Most of those years you were somewhere crying and blabbing on about how my traffic meant shit compared to your magnificent content. You put a paysite up to prove that your magnificent content was the key. You made the claims of hiring idiots to manage your traffic (the easy part) back when you put the piece of shit website filled with turd content that was a decade out of style AND YOU FAILED. Meanwhile I still control large chunks of traffic that have made me money in a plethora of ways for years on end as do many here. Even shit sites that were put up on a whim in 2010 make hundreds to thousands per month hands free. Your content sits in a Dropbox waiting on some sucker that doesn't know it's 1980's style, propped out bullshit to buy it.

At some point in all these discussions you should have adapted your thinking. This thread alone has enough information for you to swallow your pride and admit you didn't and don't know what in the fuck you are doing. I can right now go put up a website using hotlinked content available on reddit to cross promote webcams and make more money a month than you sell in shit you say costs you tens of thousands or more to create. Zero long time webmasters here would be impressed by that because THEY CAN TOO.

It is you. It has always been you. Nobody would care that it's you if not for your smug ass attitude telling all of US that we are wrong and you are right. You aren't right, you were never right and you act like you are teaching us a lesson. Old man, get the fuck off of our lawn.

paul is like the man who spent his whole life drinking vinegar because he was told it was wine. he NEVER made anything in the near of someone that understand this biz - not even in his best times.

now that he can't even buy vinegar anymore, he wants to tell those who drink wine that it's not wine at all.

i have never seen anyone in our biz who is so unerringly wrong with every statement like paul. that with this talent he could afford the doghouse in which he lives is almost a miracle. he should be grateful to the fate that he could live a little better than the average despite his non-existent qualities.

Who said Paul pay the rent and food...?

Poor Paul reminds of the main character from the movie "The Mule".

So you did pretty well B2B but we didn't even thought we sold to a much better paying side of B2B!!!

Good site. If we had found someone to handle the webmaster side of the business we would have done a paysite ourselves with content not sold in the content stores. Similar to yours but with teen girls who weren't working for others.

What was it that Perfect Gonzo did that we couldn't? Make harder content, use a different "White" balance, film more intense? No problem and we put together a few quotes for people for people who asked us to, they didn't want to pay for the costs.

As for the industry growing or shrinking, what do you base that on?

Yes models are producing their own content, but that could prove that people like you and I can no afford to give them work because fewer paysites can't afford to produce content. Even if the owner shoots for himself so models have to work for themselves, promote themselves to get the work. How many models make $2,000 a week now?

Back in the pre tubes are was it better to buy traffic by buying spots on TGPs and banners or was it better to rely on affiliate traffic?

Of course the answer is about the content, whether enough people will visit and buy from a paid for spot or whether it was better to rely on others and pay after the money is taken.

There was a site shot here by Americans who came regular and shot non-stop for weeks. Mostly solo girl and very large dildos and other objects. They bought a lot of spots.

This doesn't mean no affiliates but selecting affiliates and making sure only the best were promoting you.

All those things we have been saying for the last few years; including but not limited to a hard working staff with specialists in their individual area of expertise, including people that know how to direct models, proper light, makeup, design a enticing story to the set, quality post production, run a affiliate site, generate traffic and partner up with valuable affiliates.

Top it of with financial assets to build and scale the operation, and knowledge to steer the business in the right direction before the major shifts occur.

On top of that, you never understood branding. You keep referring to the models as "your content" as they were hardware assets. You always wanted it to be about YOU. Look at the names - do you see the difference?
"Paul Markham Teens" vs. "Perfect Gonzo"
"Paul Markham Teens" vs. "Amateur Girls Unleashed"
"Paul Markham Teens" vs. "Casting Couch X"
"Paul Markham Teens" vs. "Fake Taxi"


Get the picture yet?

Who the hell want to start their jerk-session with that name in mind?

Do you understand the concept of "customer centric experience"? You need to put the customer first every time. The customers are your surfers, your models, your partners, your affiliates... never make it about yourself.

I´d already said this...

travelling for scouting, when there are plenty of British hot women looking to enjoy first time vids in porn, it´s all about Paul, it´s something with being the one :helpme

i had opened a thread in a german forum 11 or 12 years ago with the title "spezialization and teamwork". the discussion turned into a direction where most people declared me crazy and said that they would be insane if they had to share the beautiful money they could earn all by themselves with someone.

only very few understood it at that time and these few belong today to the really big players in this market. the others chew fingernails today or are unemployed or keep themselves alive with a cheap job.

all areas that have always existed still exist today but in perfected form. and these areas have branched out into sub-areas which are subject to constant change and mutated into full-time jobs.

the one-man-show of the past is today a dying out minority. even the apparent number of people writing here doesn't give any more information about it, because in former times there were single individuals here and today there are many people writing here that have a huge team behind them.

these "invisible market participants" have made the biz much bigger, although on the surface it looks much smaller.

for example, what should my server administrators write or learn HERE? what should my designers, coders or even the administration staff do here?
nevertheless they all have to be fed and paid and are part of this business.

paul still lives in this one-man-world and interprets what he sees with the eyes of a one-man-worlder.

Of course, in the time when i was still one-man-show myself, i made more profit on my revenues. there was always 60-70% left at the end.

today my company feeds my employees and their families, buys large quantities of services and contents and the bottom line is that my personal profit today is maybe 6-8%.

nevertheless this profit today in numbers is many times higher than in the time when the profit share was 60-70%.

paul never learned to think big because he judges the world not from the summit of mount everest but from the summit of a molehill - which in itself is not so bad because the summit of mount everest doesn't offer room for everyone. the insane part is his claim that the molehill is higher than mount everest.

What makes you think we didn't have hard working staff, didn't know how to direct models, light properly, etc.

Yes we didn't know how to run an affiliate site, generate traffic and partner up with valuable affiliates. That's what we lacked and where people who only knew how to affiliate site, generate traffic and partner up with valuable affiliates and not produce the actual content or afford it missed out.

Still it's no point in taking seriously people who say I never sold anything. They have to be clueless, stupid or just trolling. Our budget for producing content would bankrupt all those one man bands working from home.

My name had been published monthly in loads of magazines, surfers knew that. So they already knew what they would get. The paysites were an offshoot of the content we shot for magazines, our biggest and most reliable market, so you are right they were nothing like the sites you mention.

However I do agree with you about customer being the main thing in selling porn. Sadly too many sites made it about the surfers being just traffic numbers and made affiliates the main thing. You know all those people swearing blind traffic is king.

I worked 20 years in England and know what it was like. The number of hot women here in Czech outnumbered them by a factor of 5. Hot attractive girls are the reasons so many came here.

but tell me why did you use PAULA Markham and not Paul Markham?

was that because you did not want people know what you are doing or did you think a women name sells better?

and how did you go to all those big porn fairs where naked meat was obligatory and you claim we don't do it anymore because we're ashamed of what we do?
in women's dresses?

you forgot to add that english girls would not do porn for 300 US per day.

The way your content looks and your lack of success.

I would not even say that.
a good seller can even sell shit. but if he writes chocolate on the packaging then chocolate lovers will only buy the product once. but those who desperately look for shit will pass by because they don't know shit is in it.

So a short precis of what's been suggested.

1) Our content is crap and no one online buys it or will buy it.

2) We were unable to shoot better content online content.

3) We should of stayed in the UK where there were so many hot girls. But chose to move to Czech where there isn't the selection.

4) We are broke.

5) We don't know how to run an affiliate program, design, drive traffic, be affiliates, have no access to affiliates, so should of opened a paysite or been affiliates.

6) Because being an affiliate or sponsor is a sure fire way of making millions with crappy content cheap on a site.

Can you see why we stuck to the side of the business we knew, were well established in, paid us far better for our crappy content and successful. We were consistently being approached by large programs who thought a great price and all they could afford for exclusive solo girl sets and video was $300?

And so many affiliates who worked for other people, made barely enough to pay their rent and few made 6 figure incomes.

your content is still making millions but not by selling it.
people pay with their presence and buying power that is sold with ads.

good or not good is so subjective.
you can have the best equipment and the cutest girls and the highest skills in shooting - it will not help if a potential buyer does not like the type of girl.
this potential buyer will rather go for a low quality video or picture set with HIS GIRL on it.

you can do online biz wherever.
if you are in production and bring the work to the girls is not wrong.
but if you are a real high skilled professional with a good name the girls will come to you.
why did hugh hefner never go to CZ ?

yes - but maybe not in your eyes because for you the molehill is the mount everst.

correct

again - it´s not the content it is the quality and the skills of an affiliate or sponsor

they paid 300 as long as there haven´t been competition.
after everyone saw how easy that is the competition tripled up every year.
how do you want to share a cake that does not grow through more and more eaters?

yes - this is a natural rule. the best will win.

You still dont get it. Doing something well, is what will get you paid. If your content was at better quality, they would have paid the price... Look at Dean Capture or Tommy.

You were "approached" but dident make any sales, because you were overpriced compared to the low-mid tier content you had or could produce.

You produced a cheap Ford but priced it as a BMW, and then you blame BMW for making their cars to cheap..

In a 15 year average, you dident break above average pay even by your national standarts. A busdrive made more (above 190 00 Kč)

You live on welfare and help paying for food and rent.. STOP pretending

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