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Forest 11-02-2019 11:56 AM

Tgp2!!!! 😂😂😂😂

NatalieK 11-02-2019 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22554138)
Why do you lie?

I don't refuse to believe, in fact I know it was a great way to make money.

What a lot of people refuse to believe is that we didn't have to run a paysite to make money.

? depending on what position you are in the business, you can still make money without running a paysite?

wtf are you on about?

your comment above is irrelevant to GFY NOW, "online webmasters with websites"...



Why would anyone refuse to believe before the internet, you could make money without a paysite, when you can still do that now?

JSWENSON 11-02-2019 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22554174)

That must be because you and I are just not as clever as Rochard who can put up sites with crap content and make affiliates send 100 joins a day.

If Lightspeed could do it with the chubby one anyone could. :1orglaugh

JSWENSON 11-02-2019 01:07 PM

And Paul, nobody claimed you didn't make money on fucking magazines. I don't know what you consider good money but you did as ok as you wanted obviously. Others might say it sucked but that is in comparison to someone, who cares?

Your problem is that you keep talking about online porn when there are girls selling their pics today for more than you sold your content sets to webmasters for. And there are THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of these girls all making money on porn. You should have done that.

thommy 11-02-2019 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22554171)
I've never met Thommy at the European shows. Went to all the Amsterdam, Berlin, Prague, Budapest, Paris, Brussels shows until I got sick. Also attended most of the Las Vegas shows, a few Miami ones. Then you met me at the two TES shows I attended in Prague. At pre 2008 shows we I wore Paul Markham Content Store embroidered polo shirts and Eva in a very short skirt and top also embroidered.

pre 2008 in prague?
no way - there was no TES in prague pre 2008.
if I am not completely wrong the first TES in prague was 2010.

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We were busy with people coming up to us asking us to shoot custom for prices we didn't shoot for or buy content.
well others did and they are still making money.


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Maybe Rochard and Thommy are too important to talk to us.
what a bullshit.
why should I or Rochard talk to you? content is nothing what i would search for. i get more than enough offers. as i said I have never even seen you
and I still didn't miss a thing.

Klen 11-02-2019 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22554275)
pre 2008 in prague?
no way - there was no TES in prague pre 2008.
if I am not completely wrong the first TES in prague was 2010.



well others did and they are still making money.




what a bullshit.
why should I or Rochard talk to you? content is nothing what i would search for. i get more than enough offers. as i said I have never even seen you
and I still didn't miss a thing.

Correct, First TES Prague was indeed 2010. Paul was there year 2011 and year 2012.

MaDalton 11-02-2019 03:27 PM

I have pics of me and Paul from Amsterdam 2005... But this is something I won't hold against him, he's sick and can't go to shows. No problem.

HairyChick 11-02-2019 04:24 PM

Y’all are questioning the all-knowing god of porn shoots who thinks that only preteen-looking shaved girls sell and nothing else matters to online folks? He who made more money than all of us combined from his online knowledge and expertise?

Paul and I tangled here for years as he stated only shaved women sold and hairy women weren’t popular. When I posted stats he claimed that I doctored them up. Only his content sold and the rest of us were fooling ourselves.

I could post numbers that would make Paul cry. Others here could do that too but he'd not believe us. We all lie as do the numbers on pages being posted .

We all failed compared to Paul.

pimpmaster9000 11-02-2019 04:28 PM

Paul hit his head hard when he was a kid...he was a spaz even before this...

Zuzana Designs 11-02-2019 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Forest (Post 22554209)
Tgp2!!!! 😂😂😂😂

lolz :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Paul Markham 11-03-2019 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 22554222)
? depending on what position you are in the business, you can still make money without running a paysite?

wtf are you on about?

your comment above is irrelevant to GFY NOW, "online webmasters with websites"...



Why would anyone refuse to believe before the internet, you could make money without a paysite, when you can still do that now?

Yet people refuse to believe we did well shooting for magazines, video, running a content store. They are saying the only way to make money is to be an affiliate or run a site.

Paul Markham 11-03-2019 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 22554287)
Correct, First TES Prague was indeed 2010. Paul was there year 2011 and year 2012.

There were shows in Prague pre 2008 that were not TES. They were far larger as well.

Klen 11-03-2019 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22554386)
There were shows in Prague pre 2008 that were not TES. They were far larger as well.

I would know if there was pre-tes show in Prague with 2000 attendees :1orglaugh

Paul Markham 11-03-2019 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 22554290)
I have pics of me and Paul from Amsterdam 2005... But this is something I won't hold against him, he's sick and can't go to shows. No problem.

We met at a lot of shows, Prague, Berlin and Amsterdam. Even Majorca.

Klen 11-03-2019 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22554397)
We met at a lot of shows, Prague, Berlin and Amsterdam. Even Majorca.

There was once "show" (gathering actually) in Brno as well :upsidedow

thommy 11-03-2019 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22554386)
There were shows in Prague pre 2008 that were not TES. They were far larger as well.

name ONE !!!!

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Even Majorca
havenīt seen you there either and the EWT in Mallorca was always a "family event" - hardly to oversee someone there.

but one year I wasn't there - maybe it was this year.

Ferus 11-03-2019 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22554397)
We met at a lot of shows, Prague, Berlin and Amsterdam. Even Majorca.

Never met anyone that saw you at Majorca... none

MaDalton 11-03-2019 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22554386)
There were shows in Prague pre 2008 that were not TES. They were far larger as well.

no, they were not. unless you mean consumer shows. Which wouldn't count


Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22554397)
We met at a lot of shows, Prague, Berlin and Amsterdam. Even Majorca.

that is true, i dont have pics of those other times of us together though


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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 22554398)
There was once "show" (gathering actually) in Brno as well :upsidedow

three times! :winkwink: Paul was there on the first


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Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 22554406)
Never met anyone that saw you at Majorca... none

I do remember him and Eva being there at least once

Paul Markham 11-04-2019 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 22554398)
There was once "show" (gathering actually) in Brno as well :upsidedow

Not sure if I went to 2 or 3. Two maybe in Brno and one in a cam studio just outside.

Paul Markham 11-04-2019 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 22554454)
no, they were not. unless you mean consumer shows. Which wouldn't count

that is true, i dont have pics of those other times of us together though

three times! :winkwink: Paul was there on the first

I do remember him and Eva being there at least once

It took the whole floor of a hotel in Prague and phone lines had the other floor.

I don't remember Ferus at shows and still wondering what he does in the industry.

Ferus 11-04-2019 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22554809)

I don't remember Ferus at shows and still wondering what he does in the industry.

You will never understand enterprise architecture, so I wont waste my time trying to explain it to you.

I have been to two adult shows around 2001-2003 and that was enough for me - I leave those shows to my customers.

But I do tour the tech/security/hosting/compliance shows around the world.

This year alone, I have been to Boston, Texas, Miami, Zurich, Milan, Barcelona, Stockholm, Copenhagen, Berlin...

thommy 11-04-2019 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22554809)
It took the whole floor of a hotel in Prague and phone lines had the other floor.

I don't remember Ferus at shows and still wondering what he does in the industry.

well, to take a whole floor in the TES today would cost you around 1,5 million dollar.
how much did you pay in this glory times ? 10.000 ?

Paul Markham 11-05-2019 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 22554813)
You will never understand enterprise architecture, so I wont waste my time trying to explain it to you.

I have been to two adult shows around 2001-2003 and that was enough for me - I leave those shows to my customers.

But I do tour the tech/security/hosting/compliance shows around the world.

This year alone, I have been to Boston, Texas, Miami, Zurich, Milan, Barcelona, Stockholm, Copenhagen, Berlin...

Which proves you know fuck all about running a paysite, producing porn, etc. So why the fuck are you on my back?

Or is this proof you're just a stupid troll with nothing better to do?

Ferus 11-05-2019 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22555489)
Which proves you know fuck all about running a paysite, producing porn, etc. So why the fuck are you on my back?

Or is this proof you're just a stupid troll with nothing better to do?

Where did I say anything about not running any paysites you stupid fuck? For 15 years that was ALL I did. I just dont see the value of going to those shows - just like I would never attend a TGP-party with Sleazy. I was a NATS customer since Version 1, and my skills with merging sites to NATS is what grew in to another service-branch I still run today.

Being successful in a business is not measured by how many bro's you have or how you are measured against their standards. Success is measured in cold hard $.. not that you would know anything about that.

Klen 11-05-2019 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 22555492)
Where did I say anything about not running any paysites you stupid fuck? For 15 years that was ALL I did. I just dont see the value of going to those shows - just like I would never attend a TGP-party with Sleazy.

Being successful in a business is not measured by how many bro's you have or how you are measured against their standards. Success is measured in cold hard $.. not that you would know anything about that.

Yep it's all about Dollar per click.

Paul Markham 11-05-2019 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22554825)
well, to take a whole floor in the TES today would cost you around 1,5 million dollar.
how much did you pay in this glory times ? 10.000 ?

Proving so many idiot trolls here.

http://fubarwebmasters.com/archive/p...tel/z01053.jpg

http://fubarwebmasters.com/archive/p...m/markham1.htm

AOE Prague 05

So where are the pictures of you at the shows just a short journey from?

Ferus 11-05-2019 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22555494)
Proving so many idiot trolls here.

http://fubarwebmasters.com/archive/p...tel/z01053.jpg

http://fubarwebmasters.com/archive/p...m/markham1.htm

AOE Prague 05

So where are the pictures of you at the shows just a short journey from?

Just another reason why you never was more than an amateur in a world of professionals

http://fubarwebmasters.com/archive/p...ham/z02117.jpg

Nitzer Ebb 11-05-2019 09:11 AM

So it took me a while to find it but I found Paul's sets. According to release he paid his models 500 Czech smackeroonies. One got 1000.
This one got paid 100 cz's and kids meal at McDonalds. Seriously Paul, 100? How much is it in Euros?
https://i.imgur.com/UZbDrPW.jpg

MaDalton 11-05-2019 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22555494)

i been to that show. it wasn't that small but it was still way less than half of the size of the last EU Summit.


And RIP BT :(

http://fubarwebmasters.com/archive/p...how/z04480.jpg

Klen 11-05-2019 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 22555724)
i been to that show. it wasn't that small but it was still way less than half of the size of the last EU Summit.


And RIP BT :(

http://fubarwebmasters.com/archive/p...how/z04480.jpg

Funny, but i live close to Corinthia hotel. I wonder is that show reason why i get "dejavu" when i see it, like i been there before while i actually never set a foot.

thommy 11-05-2019 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22555494)

So where are the pictures of you at the shows just a short journey from?

I do not collect pics but I am pretty sure that JFK, Mikey or Buster and a LOOOOT of others can give you thousands....

Paul Markham 11-06-2019 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Nitzer Ebb (Post 22555667)
So it took me a while to find it but I found Paul's sets. According to release he paid his models 500 Czech smackeroonies. One got 1000.
This one got paid 100 cz's and kids meal at McDonalds. Seriously Paul, 100? How much is it in Euros?
https://i.imgur.com/UZbDrPW.jpg

I give in to the lies.

So what if I paid model 500CZK or even 100 CZK. You big spenders will throw money around. I'm more business like and pay as little as possible.

JSWENSON 11-06-2019 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22556331)
I give in to the lies.

So what if I paid model 500CZK or even 100 CZK. You big spenders will throw money around. I'm more business like and pay as little as possible.

Why are there no webcam girls from there, illegal?

thommy 11-06-2019 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWENSON (Post 22556377)
Why are there no webcam girls from there, illegal?

there are many

but most of them are working for studios

ANAL PASTE 11-06-2019 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22556331)
I give in to the lies.

So what if I paid model 500CZK or even 100 CZK. You big spenders will throw money around. I'm more business like and pay as little as possible.

This shows why you are amateur photographer and can't hold a candle to Bangbros or Stephan. You previous claim of paying girls $400 is a BS and everyone knows it.

King Mark 11-06-2019 09:00 AM

That girl looks like she eats children

thommy 11-06-2019 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22556331)
I give in to the lies.

So what if I paid model 500CZK or even 100 CZK. You big spenders will throw money around. I'm more business like and pay as little as possible.

this is something that sums up your understanding about economy too.

let the following sink:

people that spend money and pay a fair price are sawing prosperity. and this prosperity goes from one hand to the next and finally comes back to the one that have spend it.

no wonder that you will never understand how business works and how economy works in general.

sooo many people here are telling you that you are completely wrong - and many many of them have done MUCH better than you ever did. what brings you to the conclusion that you are right and they are wrong?

i bet with you - if you find one here that thinks you are right, than he is the same broken loser as you are.

JSWENSON 11-06-2019 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22556392)
there are many

but most of them are working for studios

Have em call me yo, the ones in studios online act like hostages. :1orglaugh

Paul Markham 11-07-2019 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWENSON (Post 22556377)
Why are there no webcam girls from there, illegal?

Numerous people, who work in Czech with Czech models, have told you why in the thread you started. You disputed it. So what is your on the ground knowledge of Czech girls?

Ferus 11-07-2019 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWENSON (Post 22556604)
Have em call me yo, the ones in studios online act like hostages. :1orglaugh

what do you mean "act"? Human trafficing is neither fictitious or greatly exaggerated

JSWENSON 11-07-2019 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22557040)
Numerous people, who work in Czech with Czech models, have told you why in the thread you started. You disputed it. So what is your on the ground knowledge of Czech girls?

You were too stupid to understand anything being said there (and had help from another donkey) but still smug enough to post your irrelevant opinion on what I do.

And try looking at timestamps gramps.

Paul Markham 11-07-2019 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWENSON (Post 22557079)
You were too stupid to understand anything being said there (and had help from another donkey) but still smug enough to post your irrelevant opinion on what I do.

And try looking at timestamps gramps.

I know you're right, what with your extensive knowledge of shooting in Czech you must forgive us lesser beings.

JSWENSON 11-07-2019 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22557138)
I know you're right, what with your extensive knowledge of shooting in Czech you must forgive us lesser beings.

I tell you that you're too stupid to even understand what was said so you come back to argue against things I never said. People fuck up simple things all the time but some of us go back and double check when told directly "that ain't what happened". But not you idiots, no sir.

Great show old chap. :1orglaugh


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