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punk-asss 11-01-2019 09:01 AM

30 minutes... long time to charge. I like how gas is so fast to fill up.

notinmybackyard 11-01-2019 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22553175)
CNG is NOT propane, just saying :2 cents:

I can run my cars on Nat Gas and propane. In fact I can get myself a gassifier and then use wood gas or even garbage to fuel up

Grapesoda 11-01-2019 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22553184)
The new gas stations will be charging stations. You park your car and go get something to eat, do some shopping. Tesla already has a charging station on the Grapevine at Tejon Ranch.

Anyone can see where this is going.... The only question is what will state governmetns do with the missing revenue?

not everybody wants to sit around for 30 min while the car charges R, the gov will not miss any revenue. :2 cents:

Grapesoda 11-01-2019 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sadiedazzle (Post 22553236)
the total satisfaction of driving by gas stations and not caring is priceless.

after a few performance cars that burned a tank of gas every 2 days I look forward to that :thumbsup

Grapesoda 11-01-2019 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JFK2 (Post 22553258)
I cannot imagine trying to do the 4,000 mile road trip I just completed with an electric car.

fortunately rockhard has it figured out :thumbsup

Grapesoda 11-01-2019 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 22553735)
I can run my cars on Nat Gas and propane.

yes I can see where this make you an authority on the millage from propane to holler bullshit when told that propane has 27% less energy than gasoline :thumbsup

notinmybackyard 11-02-2019 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22553911)
yes I can see where this make you an authority on the millage from propane to holler bullshit when told that propane has 27% less energy than gasoline :thumbsup

I'm absolutely Holier than you.. and 99% of the rest of the world.

Now I guarantee that you've never driven a car that can run on CNG and if you've never driven one then you obviously don't own one.

So you don't know fuck all about the subject.


The facts are that fill ups are cheap and if I buy a gassifier I can fill my tanks with gas made from garbage. Plus it's absolutely CLEAN exhaust.

Grapesoda 11-03-2019 03:39 PM

When you figure out CNG you'll understand it's not propane $.02

2MuchMark 11-03-2019 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 22551980)
That's bullshit.

A gallon of propane has 27% less energy than a gallon of gasoline. https://afdc.energy.gov/vehicles/propane.html

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Originally Posted by sadiedazzle (Post 22552607)
I have two electric cars. One is a Volt, so it does use gas....sometimes. But it gets about 225 mpg with my type of driving. I am done with gasoline.

Congrats!!

I've been driving a volt too since about 2014. My next car which I hope to get next spring will be fully electric. I'm done with Gasoline too and so is my spouse. She's eyeballing the Tesla Model 3 and I'm going to be so jealous if she buys one. :)


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Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 22553110)
If everyone switched to an electric car tomorrow, the effect on the power grid would be apocalyptic.

Maybe, but not everyone is adopting electric cars (nor is it always a good idea). Companies that provide electricity are preparing however which is why there is more sources of electricity now such as wind and solar than there was 10 years ago.

MaDalton 11-03-2019 04:24 PM

CNG = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compressed_natural_gas

LPG (Propane) = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquefied_petroleum_gas

one is compressed gas, the other is liquid, both are used for cars but not simultaneously

Volkswagen and a couple others sell CNG cars directly from factory, LPG is usually installed as a replacement for regular gasoline.

over here both are cheaper than gasoline and both have a better CO2 balance

2MuchMark 11-03-2019 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 22553157)
I've got 2 CNG cars

I drive my Century (with a 305) literally everywhere there I've noticed absolutely ZERO change in millage and ZERO reduction in performance.

So it's bullshit.

Assuming your Buick Century is the last model made (2005) your fuel gauge looks like this one

https://images.carstory.com/-8276116...087/11/t/704x-

As it has no numbers on it at all, its impossible to know with any detail whatsoever if you are getting better or worse economy or range from one to another.

And since you are driving in Montreal, you know the seasons change your driving habits. You use the air conditioner and summer tires in the summer and the heater and winter tires in the winter. Unless you are tracking all of that, and have an accurate detailed fuel gauge, you have no idea what your actual efficiency is.

I'm sorry to say but you are probably paying too much for your energy, especially since you live in Quebec where electricity is the cheapest in North American. Next spring, you should consider getting a nice new electric car. Lots of companies are rolling out some really cool models in 2020. Ask any of them to let you test drive one for a day or so and you'll probably be convinced.

sadiedazzle 11-03-2019 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22554647)
A gallon of propane has 27% less energy than a gallon of gasoline. https://afdc.energy.gov/vehicles/propane.html



Congrats!!

I've been driving a volt too since about 2014. My next car which I hope to get next spring will be fully electric. I'm done with Gasoline too and so is my spouse. She's eyeballing the Tesla Model 3 and I'm going to be so jealous if she buys one. :)




Maybe, but not everyone is adopting electric cars (nor is it always a good idea). Companies that provide electricity are preparing however which is why there is more sources of electricity now such as wind and solar than there was 10 years ago.

Teslas around here are a dime a dozen. I was stopped at a light today and counted five around me. I have driven a bunch of Teslas... my friend sells them...and they are not like driving a regular gasoline car. They are sooooo much faster and the bang for the buck is enormous.

Vendzilla 11-04-2019 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22551792)
driving across the country is a very dated way to travel for most these days. flights are cheap. Also, any innovation doesn't happen over night. infrastructure for new tech takes time. Do you believe gas stations just appeared across the nation in a few months when cars started being made? Do you think highways were a thing when cars first came around? how affordable and practical were gas powered cars at first?

Things get better and more practical with time and necessity.

You're missing out on the adventure

Grapesoda 11-04-2019 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22554913)
You're missing out on the adventure

bingo, I like america and I like driving around in america :2 cents:


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