A couple of the involved judges were quite impressed with my paperwork; one even expressed doubts that I really did it myself.

Opposing counsel told me later he would never underestimate a Pro Per again.

Bro, we're fucking around here and I have no doubt that you can write up paperwork. But your experience isn't true in a lot of cases and there are a ton of judges that get really pissy about people representing themselves. So many states that automatically give women the horse, car, house and kids that going in without a lawyer is like asking to be robbed blind and dropped in the ocean.

Lucky for me, the year my proceedings started was the first year of the Family Law Code in California. I think I had an advantage over opposing counsel in that he had to scrap what he knew and learn new laws which actually dumped the "wife gets everything" bullshit.

I'm in my 30s, I guess I can still go for younger 20-25 who haven't had kids still. But as I get older, women typically have kids. I have 2. Who am I to say anything.

Kids are a part of the deal if you go down the dating route.

What is kind of annoying is when you make plans and they use their kids as the excuse for it not working. I get there's plenty of times you might have to pass on a plan because of kids. I would do it for mine. But I would seriously gauge how badly I'm needed. Scrape on the knee, nope, doctor or hospital, definitely.

The deal is put up what you can handle or willing to adjust for. Just don't do it because it's good sex or it seems like a good idea.

I'm debating staying single for some time. :) No one in their 20s/30s seems to have their shit together in my area and the ones that do are taken lol.

Then if they are single, they're still getting over the ex. Can't win. So I'll just sit back and call up whoever I know I have fun with and make a time out of that. They know I want to be single so I'm not fucking around either.

Reverse psychology doesn't work on me

Been there/done that.

Still together after 24 years...married for 21.

Raised her two daughters as my own.

We met online over a local BBS before the 'net existed. I told her in a pvt message before we met IRL I wasn't interested in:

1) a relationship
2) redheads
3) chicks with kids

Three years later those stipulations went out the window. :smokin

I guess youve never been to traffic court before :1orglaugh

They'll give custody and money to women that abuse their kids here then make the guy pay her lawyer fees. :1orglaugh

I have a large file of traffic tickets I have fought and won. I even took two to the appellate level and got one conviction overturned.

Never...

Never say never . . .

Hah, NO! Even Lawyers don't represent themselves in court.

That is a blanket statement. I dated an attorney and I would advise her friends on how to handle things like speeding tickets and DUIs.

Besides, I was never an attorney. This thread has brought up memories, like the time State Farm Insurance paid me to help their California clients in a lawsuit that had a New York insurance company for the opposition. That was pretty fun TBH.

And if you are in Latin America ...

Pff...i would without any problems marry a women with kids if she offers me what i need (every human has different needs, marriage is like a exchange of needs)...i would even be happy to give the kid a family and offer support...

Half of the people here are pussy whipped mofos

divorced women (while at least more respectable for not creating illegitimate children) are not ideal partners because the fact they ended up divorced reveals that they have both poor judgement and overall inadequate life skills...

Sure they can learn from their mistake but most do not – but of the rare ones that do, it usually takes them several years and by that time they have lost their youthful glows and are then too old to matter anymore anyway to men that have any value.

men can have standards

How's my dick taste?

The one which are pro or con ? :upsidedow

Or they have just an ex husband of this kind.

Jesus Konrad, why'd you have to do that. Now every time I give my husband a bj I'll have to think about where his penis has been. You may have just ruined a man's life.


I felt similarly when I was younger - never date a guy with kids, why'd he leave his baby mommy, that was wrong of him. I don't date now that I'm married but never judge my friends for their choices. Hypothetically, I don't think I'd have a problem with someone who's a parent, maybe actually the opposite. As a rule, more responsible, less childish bullshit from someone who's a parent vs. childless.

It sounds like it was pretty amiable, if its a war representing yourself is a very very bad idea.

No way I would raise another man's child IF HE WAS ALIVE. If she was married and he died in Iraq or something.....maybe. But that's the only scenario. Former father has gotta be dead.

And I thought that women were all over our bullshit like flies on crap :/ . . .

Neither date nor marry.

I made the mistake of dating a few women with kids, should have learnt after the first one it was a bad idea, No matter how cute they, are no matter what they tell you, you will always come last in their list priorities. But i wish anyone who wants to try good luck, you will need it !

elsewhere

Bingo.

Do not waste a woman with a child's time by not being into her kid as much as you are her. It's a package deal.

Some of you all need to sack the fuck up and stop being such little bitches.

You missed the part where I said it took more than 2 years. Nothing amicable about it.

The dude who should have sacked up is the loser she married or opened her legs for.
But heaven forbid a woman in today's world takes RESPONSIBILITY for her own bad choices, right?

Of course, unless we are talking about a Beta Cuck who is desperate and so tired of being an InCel that he will settle for damaged goods with another man's kid. Thanks for picking up the expense idiot!!

Besides, if all the single moms got married with fathers to raise their kids where would all the prostitutes come from? :D

While I would never not date someone that has kids I might date them longer before getting married. If I dated someone my own age then most likely their kids would be fully grown and would be no big deal.

But if I dated a younger girl in her 20s or 30s and she had smaller kids then it gets more complicated. I'd date her np but I'd date her for several years before I would want to move in together.

I have a 27 year old kid and I'll be 49 this weekend so I'm not looking to raise someone else's kid or teen but I wouldn't not date a nice lady cause she has kids. And if the right lady came along I might be willing to accept her kids down the road. I wouldn't avoid meeting her kids just don't want to be a manly/father figure til I knew she was the one I wanted to marry.

All the reasons I've seen not to, have been bitch ass reasons.

You could just not want to without the extras.

Plotwist: even when you have your own kids, you still end up a last priority :1orglaugh

The grey nickname is for being GFY’s éminence grise ??

Took you a while to notice :1orglaugh

money over pussy

I have one :))

Single mothers are bad news, dating a single mother is a waste of time and money, pussy is not so scarce that men should waste their time with a single mother.

I bet you get all the women swooning over you with that piss poor attitude.

Not everyone enjoys bullshit, but I suppose there's always CurrentlySober

depends if the kids are cool and their relationship with the kids father :2 cents: