Paul you’d freak out and wouldn’t believe me anyway If I told you pornstars now sit at home and film themselves fucking their bf and upload it to a few top platforms and many make north of $100k/month.

Quality nor quantity doesn’t mean shit anymore, audience engagement does. I believe a year from now the majority of top name girls and guys won’t shoot for external companies and will just produce for themselves.

I am already seeing this first hand and it’s only going to get worse.

I'm chatting with porn stars and they tell me the opposite. Because all their content is available on Tubes. But if you want to think porn stars are making over $1 million a year, then keep on dreaming. Your company wouldn't be able to hire porn stars as they would be too busy promoting themselves.

$100k/month at how much a scene requires how much traffic?

$5 a scene = 20,000 sales.
@ 1- 200 = 4,000,000 surfers

How many followers do these porn stars have on their social media accounts? Send some of these girls over here and let's hear from them.

I don't know why everyone is saying girls working on their own are making these ridiculous sums. Because no one here is earning anything from it or is it just you want to kid yourself you're in a big industry where a few make millions.

I was in the industry and knew many of the owners, they were the groundbreakers in Gonzo, Reality, Amateur. Are you saying Private, Homegrown and Evil Angel are the same style as Wicked, Playboy and Penthouse?

Contact some of these porn stars making over a million a year and offer to shoot them with their BF. They can afford it. :1orglaugh

Paul,

You've lost the plot.

Between Twitter, Instagram, only fans, patreon, and porn hub.. They are making bank.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You realize who you're talking to? Probably not.

Jordan's forgotten more about this biz in the last 30 minutes than you'll ever know.

Good for you. You've also been irrelevant for over a decade.

you explaining the business to Jordan is the most hilarious thing that has happened on this board for quite a while :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :error

ama next year 2021 I want some transgender content :thumbsup

consumption behavior always changes especially when the delivery model is technology based. it's just sold differently....amateurs and models using ancillary means of earning extra $ isn't anything new :2 cents:

very few girls crack 50k/mo selling (clips, onlyfans, mv. etc) some make 6 figs but they are selling it all (and a very slim %) plus its a full-time hustle including selling molds, feature dancing, shows, cams etc. they are 100% reliant on their fan base so nurture it and it's not easy.

content still sells and is still consumed by traditional means, not as much of course but it still does

:2 cents:

exactly :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

The market in general is bigger and there are also more consumers. There's plenty of room for a pay site to grow in today's market - but not using what worked yesterday. :2 cents:

What we're all leaving out though is the Instagram thots and Twitter thots who've never spent a minute on a porn set who are clearing 6 figures monthly on OF / MV, etc. Most of the porn stars are new to that hustle besides girls like Lana Rhoades.

Some of the OF girls who were just IG thots before have their subs / "fans" public and they're north of 10k at $19.95 / month plus their HUGE upsell of 2-3 "better" vids to the inbox for $20 each weekly.

I don't think so, I KNOW SO. Top girls are asking for 4-5x their regular rate to shoot, it's not worth their time. We've had cancellations from top girls who were already on the high end ($2500 a scene) ask for 10k+ a scene, because they make over $100k per month on onlyfans/MV. and 10k was the bare minimum.

and on the other end of the spectrum, we have girls that have offered to shoot for literally next to nothing, just for the exposure of being our site, which gets more fans to their content they control.

Breaks my heart to see a girl like Mia Khalifa who is so anti porn industry, sit on IG trying to sell fucking signed calanders and sports betting pics, I truly believe that chick would make $200k/month on those platforms with her enourmous popularity and brain.

The next year or so is going to be very interesting. I feel this new method of the platforms could somewhat fuck up cam sites (what girl wants to sit on cam for an hour to make $40-$200/hour) and potentially even tube sites. Manyvids almost has 1 million exclusive videos and such an engaged audience, the majority of that audience are super fans and spenders. Compare that to a tube site with 7 million non exclusive and dvd ripped videos and traffic from Bangladash rotting away your bandwidth bill. You have no comparison.

Onlyfans is even more genius, it's a god damn massive paywall. You can't see shit unless you pay and you will see every instagram thot pushing that shit more and more as word spreads amongst those communities.

Now what I believe is the achilles heel of these programs.
1) credit card regulations (it's hard to police 1 million videos for compliance)
2) If twitter/IG get smart and ban the shameless auto post spamming "Donna just sold a video click here" every 3 minutes. That will take a massive chunk out of the organic growth.

The future is quickly becoming

0 Advertising cost
0 Content Costs

and putting the power of content in the pornstars hands.

That's exactly what I hear, Most girls with earn enough to keep them doing it, few crack $50k a month. Telling us one girl earns $100k and believing it's a huge revenue stream for everyone is stupid. Think about the traffic numbers it requires to support this type of revenue for more than a couple of girls.

Not everyone will pay for porn, want amateur self shot material, fall in love with a performer, have the money to consume the amount of content required, will pay for unseen content. That's one of the biggest stumbling blocks I'll bet the drop off in traffic is huge when they find out they have to pay to see anything. .

So give us some names of these big earners so we can see what their traffic numbers are like. So far no one has given a name of one girl earning $100k a month. Or are all their names to remain a huge secret? One girl isn't enough we need to see a bunch of names to see if it's a hge revenue stream.

see - there were two options to reply

1. thank you for your valuable input
2. more senseless drivel

you really think someone would put names out here? Maybe invite the IRS as well to the party?

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:thumbsup:thumbsup:1orglaugh

Paul is so fucking clueless.

I am not the retired guy shaking his fists at the sky in this thread. How about this, lets meet back here in a year and see where the industry is.

Best thread of 2020 so far!

How are the girls being paid?

Do you really believe girls earning 7 figures are keeping it quiet from the IRS? If you do your stupid. Of course, if it's just a ploy to avoid backing up your bullshit I commend you for trying.

I've always been a firm believer in girls doing it for real and if it takes girls doing this in their own productions I'm all for it. From what I've seen there are girls who do a real scene for their own promotion rather than the fake moaning, fake fucking, fake orgasms online publishers seemed to revel in. Scenes like these are turning viewers off.

AmazingContent.com - high quality adult content since 2003

AmazingContent.com - high quality adult content since 2003

So girls who are ready to masturbate of fuck for real, let their audience see the real thing is always going to have a bigger impact than the endless dross so many sites put out.

However, if girls do the same thing on their own sites they won't have the impact while other girls deliver the real thing.

The problem is proving that they can earn 7 figures. Most earn 5 figures with a few making it to 6. I truly doubt they are hiding their success in fear of the IRS and expect you trolls of hiding from being exposed as liars.

*you're


PS: If you don't like that content I am the wrong person to compain to, I am just brokering that.

So just a ploy to continue trolling.

I used your site as an example of what has turned viewers off a certain style of porn. Well shot, well lit and very badly acted isn't fooling many these days and putting on a site at the top will swiftly turn viewers off.

Replace it with better content to keep more people coming.

Next week I will blow your mind and tell you there are even cam models that make 6 figures a month! thousands of them!

[\QUOTE]The future is quickly becoming

0 Advertising cost
0 Content Costs

and putting the power of content in the pornstars hands.[/QUOTE]


We're all gonna die.

oh no, I'm doomed then :helpme

Crazy.

😬

Does it make you feel more important or less to know others earn so much and you don't?

I've never understood why people keep telling us others are earning the money when they earn so little. It's like a shelf stacker in a supermarket boasting the CEO of the company earns so much. :upsidedow

https://gfy.com/22590492-post36.html

https://gfy.com/22590492-post36.html

:2 cents:

It’s gotta be eating you up inside on a daily basis that you started before 99.9% of this board and never really made any real considerable money in this business.

Now it must sting so much more that some 30 year old Pornstars are making over a million a year and you and I are living on food stamps :(

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2019/02/09/style/onlyfans-porn-stars.amp.html

I am sure the magazine resurgence is right around the corner, hold strong Paul, hold strong.

In CZ, you get food stamps only if you are employed by someone else :1orglaugh

Only Fans and sites like it have changed the industry for the better. Getting it out of the hands of people who only see people as traffic, think they were in charge of what was delivered to consumers and very often tricking them into spending money. Then paying these clowns 50%for doing the job any person could do I've always known that consumers want a real person to jerk off to, love the idea of communicating with models and wany models to enjoy their work as much as they do.

Does every or even the majority of girls earn 7 figures or even high 6 is the question? Common sense tells us no because there aren't that many consumers ready to spend on porn. Not enough want an Amateur product, one look at Danni's Instagram account will tell you that. https://www.instagram.com/missdanniiharwood/?hl=en Magazine style is still wanted. People want to see models done up to the T for them, want to see her professionally shot by someone capable. So the style of magazine shooting isn't so dead and never died.

The losers in the Only Fans adaption aren't professional shooters, it's the idiots who think they deserve 50% for submitting endless clips to Tube sites and want free everything as well. I'm sure if Danni sells videos of herself shot by a professional they will outsell anything she does on her own. Which is the same for any good looking girl, the problem is most can't afford to spend money on it.

View her statement of PH https://www.pornhub.com/users/danniiharwoodnet/videos

He's an idiot who can only manage to work for someone else. Then goes around making grand assumptions about what people earn.

This from https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...aking-15894499

How much do Only Fans take? 20% so $12.99 x 1,000 = $12,990.00 less 20% $2,598 = $10,392. So a yearly income a long way short of the 7 figures this moron claims. But a nice income and far better than she would earn relying on Bangbus.

The top girl on Only Fans;

One girl earning this should be balanced out with all the girls earning a few thousand a month.

Because;

"If people want to see hardcore pornography, they just go on the internet and they’d get that for free. That’s not what my page is about. My page is about interaction, personalising my content to suit each guy, offering so much different stuff like games and fetishes that it appeals to a lot of people. I try to keep it tasteful, even though I show my body.” And we know millions want hardcore and the brains decided giving it to them for free was the way to sell more. :upsidedow

This guy rocks out with his cock out, in a good way. Solid. I guess what you would expect?

PAUL STAY THE FUCK OUT OF MY THREADS in the future you fucking relic. You're retired.. stay this way.

That being said, anyone wanna meet up in Vegas. Love to see some old and new faces.
Paul you stay home. Geez.

Without me, this thread would have dropped to page 4 by now, you should be thanking me for keeping it alive. Have fun in Vegas.

id rather 1 page of business ob page 50 than anything with you in it.

Don’t be a dick Joe

Let's be honest. You won't get 1 page of business from people looking to buy exclusive content from you or anyone else. All you were getting were bumps from people who don't buy content.

GFY is a bad place to look for content business. You need to approach people direct asking what they're looking for, offering prices that are competitive in today's market and a list of girls with what they do.

The content business has changed dramatically since pre-tubes even then online wasn't a great place to make money selling exclusive content. It was flooded with people wanting cheap content and idiots selling it to them. The place to make money was with a site and a good shooter or offline. Now it's a terrible place to make money.

So don't blame me for telling you the truth, of course, if you know otherwise why are you worried about what I say.

The most biz I've done EVER on this board are the people that DONT post. SO MIND YOUR OWN FUCKING BIZ

Im a dick for telling a fucking RELIC , not even in the biz to stop being a dumbass. WELL IM A DICK THEN.