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Grapesoda 01-17-2020 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 22595636)
Im a dick for telling a fucking RELIC , not even in the biz to stop being a dumbass. WELL IM A DICK THEN.

yes but are you a hard dick!!! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Paul Markham 01-18-2020 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 22595633)
The most biz I've done EVER on this board are the people that DONT post. SO MIND YOUR OWN FUCKING BIZ

I'm telling people here about the changes in the industry. You touting for business on GFY proves I'm right and you're a dickhead.

Paul Markham 01-18-2020 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22595640)
yes but are you a hard dick!!! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

No worries, I can take it. :1orglaugh

amacontent 01-18-2020 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22595769)
I'm telling people here about the changes in the industry. You touting for business on GFY proves I'm right and you're a dickhead.

I am a dickhead... but I'm still here doing work you old fucking relic.

ReggieDurango 01-18-2020 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 22595956)
Im a dick for telling a fucking RELIC , not even in the biz to stop being a dumbass

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Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 22595956)
I am a dickhead... but I'm still here doing work you old fucking relic.

YOU calltime anyone a “relic” is pretty laughable!

sonofsam 01-18-2020 06:29 PM

Joe stop acting like this thread was actually going to give you any leads

I dont know how big the market is for fat pasty white guys getting POV blowjobs in 320p

It's 2020.

Paul Markham 01-19-2020 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam (Post 22596080)
Joe stop acting like this thread was actually going to give you any leads

I dont know how big the market is for fat pasty white guys getting POV blowjobs in 320p

It's 2020.

True. The days of content producers making a living off producing cheap pap that filled a site for countless affiliates to sends loads of traffic, convert a few and everyone makes a living are over.

Today you have to produce something 1-1,000 or less want to pay for and the owner of the site can sell enough not to have to produce for himself.

Old Jeff, Porn Dude and others make a living off bundling these site together and selling memberships with the owner getting a cut.

Joe needs to adapt or die, retire or change profession.

Paul Markham 01-19-2020 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 22595956)
I am a dickhead... but I'm still here doing work you old fucking relic.

Not a lot as you're touting for business on GFY. Read what I just posted above.

PorcoRosso 01-21-2020 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Zuzana Designs (Post 22591942)
Best thread of 2020 so far!

Agreed!
There's a good educated debate, spiked with trolling and hilarious comments.
Please all continue, it feels like reading an excellent book while drinking cold beer and having fireworks in the background :).

Paul Markham 01-21-2020 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by PorcoRosso (Post 22596969)
Agreed!
There's a good educated debate, spiked with trolling and hilarious comments.
Please all continue, it feels like reading an excellent book while drinking cold beer and having fireworks in the background :).

So far the educated debate is only coming from me. I've commented on the state of the industry today. After the initial post Joe offered nothing but abuse to me, not that it worries me.

amacontent 01-21-2020 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22596158)
Not a lot as you're touting for business on GFY. Read what I just posted above.

Im always touting for biz you fucking relic. You think Coca Cola stops advertising because they sell a can of soda. Just die already Markham, you've been an idiot for a complete generation

Paul Markham 01-22-2020 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 22597279)
Im always touting for biz you fucking relic. You think Coca Cola stops advertising because they sell a can of soda. Just die already Markham, you've been an idiot for a complete generation

So not getting regular business from your established client base. That doesn't look good for you.

ComparingCoke with your business was a bit silly.

_Richard_ 01-22-2020 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Pipecrew (Post 22591455)
I don't think so, I KNOW SO. Top girls are asking for 4-5x their regular rate to shoot, it's not worth their time. We've had cancellations from top girls who were already on the high end ($2500 a scene) ask for 10k+ a scene, because they make over $100k per month on onlyfans/MV. and 10k was the bare minimum.

and on the other end of the spectrum, we have girls that have offered to shoot for literally next to nothing, just for the exposure of being our site, which gets more fans to their content they control.

Breaks my heart to see a girl like Mia Khalifa who is so anti porn industry, sit on IG trying to sell fucking signed calanders and sports betting pics, I truly believe that chick would make $200k/month on those platforms with her enourmous popularity and brain.

The next year or so is going to be very interesting. I feel this new method of the platforms could somewhat fuck up cam sites (what girl wants to sit on cam for an hour to make $40-$200/hour) and potentially even tube sites. Manyvids almost has 1 million exclusive videos and such an engaged audience, the majority of that audience are super fans and spenders. Compare that to a tube site with 7 million non exclusive and dvd ripped videos and traffic from Bangladash rotting away your bandwidth bill. You have no comparison.

Onlyfans is even more genius, it's a god damn massive paywall. You can't see shit unless you pay and you will see every instagram thot pushing that shit more and more as word spreads amongst those communities.

Now what I believe is the achilles heel of these programs.
1) credit card regulations (it's hard to police 1 million videos for compliance)
2) If twitter/IG get smart and ban the shameless auto post spamming "Donna just sold a video click here" every 3 minutes. That will take a massive chunk out of the organic growth.

The future is quickly becoming

0 Advertising cost
0 Content Costs

and putting the power of content in the pornstars hands.

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

ReggieDurango 01-22-2020 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 22597279)
Just die already Markham, you've been an idiot for a complete generation

Joe, wishing death upon someone certainly won’t get you any new clients! In fact, how the hell do you sleep at night saying stuff like that? SMH

Paul Markham 01-23-2020 01:56 AM

Pipecrew no one disputes top girls earn good money and if they don't want to work for your company good luck to them.

The problem is the other girls earning a couple of thousand a month and even those who earn that a year. Like everything else in porn, it's a saturated market with few buyers.

amacontent 01-23-2020 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ReggieDurango (Post 22597860)
Joe, wishing death upon someone certainly won’t get you any new clients! In fact, how the hell do you sleep at night saying stuff like that? SMH

You idiot when I say die you know i mean from this thread.

amacontent 01-23-2020 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22597482)
So not getting regular business from your established client base. That doesn't look good for you.

ComparingCoke with your business was a bit silly.

How is it silly . Coke sells a product advertises for more clients. I sell a product and always look for more clients, maybe thats why your a failure.

Paul Markham 01-24-2020 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 22598257)
How is it silly . Coke sells a product advertises for more clients. I sell a product and always look for more clients, maybe thats why your a failure.

Coke sells a pretty plain product, maybe that's what you need to change and become a vintage wine of the porn business.

The days of churning out the same product over and over are over.

I too thought you meant I was to die when you said die.

RTP 01-24-2020 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by PorcoRosso (Post 22596969)
Agreed!
There's a good educated debate, spiked with trolling and hilarious comments.
Please all continue, it feels like reading an excellent book while drinking cold beer and having fireworks in the background :).

This is true, valid points for all actually on here.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

We interface and work with so many models on the content side on a daily basis, and see/hear of their numbers so it's interesting about the perception out there even from an industry view. 90% of girls are hustling ancillary revenue outside of production shoots. The next rush is happening now and it's evident who has the new money…consumer engagement is important now regardless of content. Why OF, AVN Stars etc are on the rise.

Think about this...it took this industry and the delivery model over 20 years to evolve, now it's evolving and changing almost every few years. - that pretty amazing to see, this is a reality.

It's the same with many mainstream industries as well, the world and revenue models are all influenced by the evolution of technology. If you haven’t cut the cord on cable, you will soon but in the meantime, there are plenty of customers around for those companies. Licensed/Ad sponsored TV is the same way…there is so much free content out there to consume that is ad-sponsored you couldn’t run out of stuff to watch, people just syndicate it differently to make revenue.

Music? Artist work harder for less, but they work…and example of this is some award-winning artists get paid $0.005 per stream 10gs a year (sux), they still put out content and make $ via other means….some bank, most indy artists don’t. Spotify banks though from its subs and ads :)

There are a ton of pessimistic views on where we are at and that's natural. Content is still valuable, it still sells, just sells differently….knowing your customer, knowing your niche…it still works - again it works differently.

Paul Markham 01-24-2020 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RTP (Post 22598794)
This is true, valid points for all actually on here.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

We interface and work with so many models on the content side on a daily basis, and see/hear of their numbers so it's interesting about the perception out there even from an industry view. 90% of girls are hustling ancillary revenue outside of production shoots. The next rush is happening now and it's evident who has the new money…consumer engagement is important now regardless of content. Why OF, AVN Stars etc are on the rise.

Think about this...it took this industry and the delivery model over 20 years to evolve, now it's evolving and changing almost every few years. - that pretty amazing to see, this is a reality.

Very true. It's always been good when models interact with consumers. I was the one who suggested we get the general public into shows to meet models to raise the profiles of the sites. No one agreed with me even if it was only on days allocated to the public.

Models can sell porn a lot better than affiliates if they can interact with them and social media allows them to or gives the impression they are.

The problem is those who try to sell the "Onlyfans" method as a way for all models or even the vast majority to make a very good living. For most, it's a way to earn something along with camming, hooking and other things to make an average living.

Because of the sheer numbers of people on porn tubes consuming free porn and the terrible ratios they convert at. And the number of models turning to this form of earning money. Like everything else in porn once the entry bar is set as low as possible, the flood in saturates the limited market.

Just because a few girls earn 6 figures doesn't mean every girl does.

CurrentlySober 01-25-2020 02:42 AM

One Hundy being available at AVN for any production needs and a poo :)

ReggieDurango 01-25-2020 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 22598940)
One Hundy being available at AVN for any production needs and a poo :)

101 ...of those

fertooos 02-16-2020 01:28 PM

Bumping . . .


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