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  • Grapesoda
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    • Jul 2003
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    #1

    question about guns

    which is better, kimber, glock, Springfield, ruger, heckler - 45 acp vr 10mm vrs 9mm?? 3.8 inch barrel, 5 inch barrel etc...


    I had a 45 acp. I was told all brands of 45 acp have a tendency to jam???

    thanks in advance
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    • 2MuchMark
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      • Aug 2004
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      #2
      Wrong forum?

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        • Grapesoda
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          • Jul 2003
          • 46234
          #3
          Originally posted by 2MuchMark
          Wrong forum?
          no it's not, you are just fucked up

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            • Coyote
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              • May 2003
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              #4
              My full-size semi auto is a Kimber Custom II .45acp. It has never jammed once in >500 rounds. My everyday carry is the Custom Carry .45. Also no jams. I have shot Glocks, Ruger, H&K, each at .45 and never had any problems with them either. Of course I've not put as many rounds through them as my Kimber. Personally, I prefer the .45 to 10mm or less, but it all comes down to personal preferences. My late wife shot 9mm, 10mm, and .40 better than most people at the range.

              As far as barrel length goes, the longer the barrel the more accurate the shot, the more efficient the burn (more powder gets to burn within the barrel rather than outside it increasing your FPS and accuracy), and a slightly more-balanced feel (at least to me). It is more difficult to conceal, though.

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                • just a punk
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                  • Jun 2003
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                  #5
                  Originally posted by Grapesoda
                  which is better, kimber, glock, Springfield, ruger, heckler - 45 acp vr 10mm vrs 9mm?? 3.8 inch barrel, 5 inch barrel etc...


                  I had a 45 acp. I was told all brands of 45 acp have a tendency to jam???

                  thanks in advance
                  Pfff... A revolver or a pistol? Which size (big/small barrel)? For what purpose? Which exactly country it was made etc.

                  To be short: want a reliable and light gun? Buy Glock made in Austria.

                  Originally posted by Coyote
                  My full-size semi auto is a Kimber Custom II .45acp.
                  Colt is extremely nice, but if you need something lighter, compacter and reliable, you'll take Glock. Not so sexy as 1911, but it's a 21th century...
                  Obey the Cowgod

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                    • Grapesoda
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                      • Jul 2003
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                      #6
                      Originally posted by Coyote
                      My full-size semi auto is a Kimber Custom II .45acp. It has never jammed once in >500 rounds. My everyday carry is the Custom Carry .45. Also no jams. I have shot Glocks, Ruger, H&K, each at .45 and never had any problems with them either. Of course I've not put as many rounds through them as my Kimber. Personally, I prefer the .45 to 10mm or less, but it all comes down to personal preferences. My late wife shot 9mm, 10mm, and .40 better than most people at the range.

                      As far as barrel length goes, the longer the barrel the more accurate the shot, the more efficient the burn (more powder gets to burn within the barrel rather than outside it increasing your FPS and accuracy), and a slightly more-balanced feel (at least to me). It is more difficult to conceal, though.

                      If you take care of your weapons, they will take care of you.
                      thanks, I have big hands. the 45 felt easy to hold

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                        • Grapesoda
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                          • Jul 2003
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                          #7
                          Originally posted by CyberSEO
                          Pfff... A revolver or a pistol? Which size (big/small barrel)? For what purpose? Which exactly country it was made etc.

                          To be short: want a reliable and light gun? Buy Glock made in Austria.



                          Colt is extremely nice, but if you need something lighter, compacter and reliable, you'll take Glock. Not so sexy as 1911, but it's a 21th century...
                          I'm planning on taking self defense lessons and moving out of LA County and getting a carry permit. purely for self defense.

                          I guy came in my apt in the middle of the night one time. he went into the bathroom. I got up with my gun behind my back and looking into the bathroom I saw he was chopping blow. I asked him to leave and he did. he never saw the gun.

                          I was taught never show your gun unless you are planing to kill someone for self protection. I'm think 10 mm or 45 short barrel. no long distance shooting, if they are that far away I use knife fighting principles... run like a mother fucker lol!!

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                            • just a punk
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                              • Jun 2003
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                              #8
                              Originally posted by Grapesoda
                              I'm planning on taking self defense lessons and moving out of LA County and getting a carry permit. purely for self defense.
                              In my city I don't need any gun at all, because it's secure to live here. Umm... maybe a knife just for a case, but I have never used it.

                              Originally posted by Grapesoda
                              I guy came in my apt in the middle of the night one time. he went into the bathroom. I got up with my gun behind my back and looking into the bathroom I saw he was chopping blow. I asked him to leave and he did. he never saw the gun.
                              Man, which place of California do you live in? That's just absolutely unimaginary for me. The only guys with guns who have knocked my door were police (yes policemen) and they were told to get the fuck out, because if they have no search or arrest warrant they are nobody for us. But some intruder in your house... Uhh... Course you need a gun if you live in such a place. In this situation a shotgun or an assault riffle (a semi-automatic one is ok) might be a better solution IMHO.

                              Originally posted by Grapesoda
                              I was taught never show your gun unless you are planing to kill someone for self protection.
                              Actually it is not. Sometimes it's worth to show a gun to stop someone and don't kill or be killed. Depends on a situation of course. And yes, it works IRL.



                              P.S. Also you don't need to kill all the time. If you are a good shooter, aim weak points. E.g. knees. Nobody can hurt you w/o a knee, but it won't kill him. Just IMHO again.
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                                • King Mark
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                                  #9
                                  Personally, my next purchases will be an FN 57 and a Mini Draco.

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                                    • slapass
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                                      • Nov 2002
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                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                      In my city I don't need any gun at all, because it's secure to live here. Umm... maybe a knife just for a case, but I have never used it.



                                      Man, which place of California do you live in? That's just absolutely unimaginary for me. The only guys with guns who have knocked my door were police (yes policemen) and they were told to get the fuck out. If they have no search or arrest order they are nobody for us. But some intruder in your house... Uhh... Course you need a gun if you live in such a place. In this situation a shotgun or an assault riffle might be a better solution IMHO.



                                      Actually not. Sometimes it's worth to show a gun to stop someone and don't kill or be killed. Depends on a situation of course.



                                      And yes, it works IRL.
                                      The door was unlocked. It happens in apts. People get off on the wrong floor or just go to the wrong door. Notice how he wasn’t looking to steal and no mention of forced entry? Still sucks but it helps to lock the door. I live in a big apt building and have done it a few times over the years.

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                                        • just a punk
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                                          • Jun 2003
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                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by slapass
                                          The door was unlocked. It happens in apts. People get off on the wrong floor or just go to the wrong door. Notice how he wasn’t looking to steal and no mention of forced entry? Still sucks but it helps to lock the door. I live in a big apt building and have done it a few times over the years.
                                          I don't understand it. I also live in a big apartments building, but I always close my door. As I said, even police can not get inside w/o a court warrant.
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                                            • MindWaste
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                                              • Mar 2001
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                                                • King Mark
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                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                                  I don't understand it. I also live in a big apartments building, but I always close my door. As I said, even police can not get inside w/o a court warrant.
                                                  Does Russia have suburbs? Seem like y'all all either live in project towers or shacks from the media.

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                                                    • just a punk
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                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                      • 32385
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by King Mark
                                                      Does Russia have suburbs?
                                                      Yes, it has of course. But even there guns are usually unnecessary. It's not a problem here to get a license for a shotgun or semi-automatic AK47 (you can buy them even via Internet), but firearms are not popular in Russia (knives are better on the street). If you are not a hunter of course. And this is taking into account that almost every adult man in Russia is a former army serviceman.
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                                                        • Mr Pheer
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                                                          • Dec 2002
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                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                                          P.S. Also you don't need to kill all the time. If you are a good shooter, aim weak points. E.g. knees. Nobody can hurt you w/o a knee, but it won't kill him. Just IMHO again.
                                                          Dead people don't file lawsuits or come back later for revenge against you or your family.

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                                                            • Grapesoda
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                                                              • Jul 2003
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                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                                              In my city I don't need any gun at all, because it's secure to live here. Umm... maybe a knife just for a case, but I have never used it.



                                                              Man, which place of California do you live in? That's just absolutely unimaginary for me. The only guys with guns who have knocked my door were police (yes policemen) and they were told to get the fuck out, because if they have no search or arrest warrant they are nobody for us. But some intruder in your house... Uhh... Course you need a gun if you live in such a place. In this situation a shotgun or an assault riffle (a semi-automatic one is ok) might be a better solution IMHO.



                                                              Actually it is not. Sometimes it's worth to show a gun to stop someone and don't kill or be killed. Depends on a situation of course. And yes, it works IRL.



                                                              P.S. Also you don't need to kill all the time. If you are a good shooter, aim weak points. E.g. knees. Nobody can hurt you w/o a knee, but it won't kill him. Just IMHO again.
                                                              I got the gun because 2 girls in the next apartment were killed by shotgun, I was home at the time. pretty fucked up feeling hearing a shot gun blasting away on the other side of a 1/2 Sheetrock wall ... if you don't kill them you'll be fucked in court. with them dead 1 less witness against you. I was living in Hollywood California at the time. Hollywood is a very bad place, now i live up in the high desert. a few issue but a quiet neighborhood. I'm more concerned about the open road, robberies etc... I actually hate carrying a gun, the weigh etc.. . I'll just keep the gun in the car or on the bike unless I find a way I like to carry

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                                                                • Grapesoda
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                                                                  • Jul 2003
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                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by slapass
                                                                  The door was unlocked. It happens in apts. People get off on the wrong floor or just go to the wrong door. Notice how he wasn’t looking to steal and no mention of forced entry? Still sucks but it helps to lock the door. I live in a big apt building and have done it a few times over the years.
                                                                  yeah that's all it was, just illustrating the point that I'm not looking to shoot someone. I've been in a few gun situations as a kid. I stay pretty calm

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                                                                    • Mr Pheer
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                                                                      • Dec 2002
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                                                                      #18
                                                                      The best gun is the one that fits your hand the best, and the one that you shoot the best. It's really not as simple as "this gun is better than that one". It's a personal thing, to you only.

                                                                      My personal preference is Kimber (I have a few) and my old trusty Colt M1991A1. An off the shelf Kimber feels and shoots almost as good as a hand-fitted match grade Colt. Sometimes with a brand new Kimber, I may get a failure to feed during the first 50 rounds, but it is pretty much broken in by then and just runs flawless afterward. The only problem I have ever had with my 29 year old Colt was a worn out sear spring causing light primer strikes. Replace all springs with a set from Wilson Combat and it fires perfect again.

                                                                      My next favorite is the Hk USP 45.

                                                                      I've tried many other pistols but they don't fit my hand the way I like, or the triggers are mushy (Glocks especially by design).

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                                                                        • just a punk
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                                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                                          • 32385
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Mr Pheer
                                                                          Dead people don't file lawsuits or come back later for revenge against you or your family.
                                                                          Maybe in the USA. In my country they always comeback like ghosts in court, so you may (actually will) get about 7 years in prison for that, even if it was a situation clearly dangerous for your life. We have different laws about self defense...
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                                                                            • Coyote
                                                                              Drinker of Scotch
                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                              • 236
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Mr Pheer
                                                                              The best gun is the one that fits your hand the best...
                                                                              That is exactly it. As soon as I picked up my Kimber I knew it was the one.
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                                                                                • Grapesoda
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                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  thanks guys

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                                                                                    • just a punk
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                                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                                      • 32385
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Yep, they said it right. Take the one your hand likes more, the size/weight you prefer etc. It's so, so, so personal. Like if you asked which pants to wear.

                                                                                      P.S. Just not a .22LR. It's good for sport shootings. The assassins use it for murders with a suppressor (it's really silent), but for a self defense it's noting. So everything over .30 caliber (.32, .35 etc) is a real gun. Especially with expansive cartridges. Depends on your preferences, of course.
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                                                                                        • Grapesoda
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                                                                                          • Jul 2003
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                                                                          Yep, they said it right. Take the one your hand likes more, the size/weight you prefer etc. It's so, so, so personal. Like if you asked which pants to wear.

                                                                                          P.S. Just not a .22LR. It's good for sport shootings. The assassins use it for murders with a suppressor (it's really silent), but for a self defense it's noting. So everything over .30 caliber (.32, .35 etc) is a real gun. Especially with expansive cartridges. Depends on your preferences, of course.
                                                                                          I like the 1911 however i was told by a competitive shooter that 1911's are not reliable, so I made this post. I actually do not enjoy shooting guns I will get trained though and carry.

                                                                                          thank you

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                                                                                            • celandina
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                                                                                              • Jun 2006
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                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Grapesoda
                                                                                              which is better, kimber, glock, Springfield, ruger, heckler - 45 acp vr 10mm vrs 9mm?? 3.8 inch barrel, 5 inch barrel etc...


                                                                                              I had a 45 acp. I was told all brands of 45 acp have a tendency to jam???

                                                                                              thanks in advance


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                                                                                                • lezinterracial
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                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  9mm vs .45, Kimber vs Glock. It is like debating religion or will people pay for porn again.

                                                                                                  It is never ending.

                                                                                                  Somebody else said it before. Just pick what you want. Maybe go to a range and rent a few. Get what you like and what you can hit with.
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                                                                                                    • Mr Pheer
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                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Grapesoda
                                                                                                      I like the 1911 however i was told by a competitive shooter that 1911's are not reliable, so I made this post. I actually do not enjoy shooting guns I will get trained though and carry.
                                                                                                      The 1911 is totally unreliable. You shouldn't trust it. It's unreliability is so legendary that it's been in use by US military forces for over a hundred straight years now. Fuck that piece of shit gun.

                                                                                                      By the way, everyone that joins a local gun club and goes to the Tuesday range day is now a "competitive shooter" with an opinion.

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                                                                                                        • slapass
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                                                                                                          • Nov 2002
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                                                                                          Yes, it has of course. But even there guns are usually unnecessary. It's not a problem here to get a license for a shotgun or semi-automatic AK47 (you can buy them even via Internet), but firearms are not popular in Russia (knives are better on the street). If you are not a hunter of course. And this is taking into account that almost every adult man in Russia is a former army serviceman.
                                                                                                          Your murder rate is twice the US.

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                                                                                                            • just a punk
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                                                                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                                                                              • 32385
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by slapass
                                                                                                              Your murder rate is twice the US.
                                                                                                              The OP lives in LA, I live in Moscow. What's a reason to compare something with Chechnya, Dagestan or other parts of Russia where we still have anti-terror military operations?

                                                                                                              So, educate yourself: Crime Comparison Between Moscow, Russia And Los Angeles, CA, United States. Safety Comparison.
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                                                                                                                • PornDiscounts-V
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                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  It's like asking what's better, epoch, ccbill, etc... So many factors come into play.
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                                                                                                                    • just a punk
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                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by slapass
                                                                                                                      Your murder rate is twice the US.
                                                                                                                      Just as an addition to my previous post. Your were misinformed. As usually.. Moscow is really safer than NYC or LA.



                                                                                                                      Just an interesting fact: the population of NYC and LA all together is at least twice less than a population of Moscow ) It's officially the largest capital city of the Western World.
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                                                                                                                        • ZackBasil
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                                                                                                                          12-gauge shotgun at home and a knife in pocket works fine for me

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                                                                                                                            • Vendzilla
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                                                                                                                              • Mar 2004
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                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              The 1911a is reliable, but a revolver is more reliable. If you can't protect yourself with 6 rounds, you need more practice.
                                                                                                                              If this is for protection, get a 3.57 magnum, the variety of bullets you can buy is the largest as you can shoot 38 special as well .
                                                                                                                              Get some nasty bullets for protection .
                                                                                                                              Shiny finish is a plus, when you show it to a potential target, it adds weight to the situation and greatly increases it's deterant value .
                                                                                                                              Taurus makes some really good revolvers.
                                                                                                                              Better control, more accurate, you can do more damage when you hit the target.
                                                                                                                              When I go to the range, all my targets have holes in the head.
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                                                                                                                              think about that

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                                                                                                                                • trevesty
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Mr Pheer
                                                                                                                                  The 1911 is totally unreliable. You shouldn't trust it. It's unreliability is so legendary that it's been in use by US military forces for over a hundred straight years now. Fuck that piece of shit gun.

                                                                                                                                  By the way, everyone that joins a local gun club and goes to the Tuesday range day is now a "competitive shooter" with an opinion.
                                                                                                                                  That pretty much sums up my thoughts on that, too.

                                                                                                                                  OP - if you'll be in an apartment and are only looking for self-defense, consider also that a .45 or similar will have a very good chance to go through that 1/4" thick sheet rock without issue, even if you hit your target with every shot.

                                                                                                                                  There is no better deterrent than the sound of a 12g shotgun shell being loaded.
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                                                                                                                                    • Grapesoda
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                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2003
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Mr Pheer
                                                                                                                                      The 1911 is totally unreliable. You shouldn't trust it. It's unreliability is so legendary that it's been in use by US military forces for over a hundred straight years now. Fuck that piece of shit gun.

                                                                                                                                      By the way, everyone that joins a local gun club and goes to the Tuesday range day is now a "competitive shooter" with an opinion.
                                                                                                                                      the guy i was talking about is a survival guy that shoots with survival cops, but yeah 1911 is for me, then again a 10 mm hold more rounds

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                                                                                                                                        • Grapesoda
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                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2003
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                                                                                                                          Just as an addition to my previous post. Your were misinformed. As usually.. Moscow is really safer than NYC or LA.



                                                                                                                                          Just an interesting fact: the population of NYC and LA all together is at least twice less than a population of Moscow ) It's officially the largest capital city of the Western World.
                                                                                                                                          maybe, but it is way to cold for me

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                                                                                                                                            • Grapesoda
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by ZackBasil
                                                                                                                                              12-gauge shotgun at home and a knife in pocket works fine for me
                                                                                                                                              man I hate knives rather have a 16-gauge at home or even a 410. why fuck the whole house up?

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                                                                                                                                                • Grapesoda
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                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                  The 1911a is reliable, but a revolver is more reliable. If you can't protect yourself with 6 rounds, you need more practice.
                                                                                                                                                  If this is for protection, get a 3.57 magnum, the variety of bullets you can buy is the largest as you can shoot 38 special as well .
                                                                                                                                                  Get some nasty bullets for protection .
                                                                                                                                                  Shiny finish is a plus, when you show it to a potential target, it adds weight to the situation and greatly increases it's deterant value .
                                                                                                                                                  Taurus makes some really good revolvers.
                                                                                                                                                  Better control, more accurate, you can do more damage when you hit the target.
                                                                                                                                                  When I go to the range, all my targets have holes in the head.
                                                                                                                                                  my first choice was a tarsus 'judge' but they are illegal in cally, and my second though I didn't want to kill everybody in the building by blowing threw all the walls.



                                                                                                                                                  if I was going to shoot for fun I would get a black powder navy colt

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                                                                                                                                                    • just a punk
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                                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2003
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                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Grapesoda
                                                                                                                                                      maybe, but it is way to cold for me
                                                                                                                                                      Indeed. The only thing I disagree on that video is that July in Moscow is +19C. Usually it's up to +30C and during winter can be -15C or so. But usually it's like in London. Rainy and gloomy. Out weather can not be compared with a LA one even closely. Course your one rocks

                                                                                                                                                      And once again about a crime rate (not just in Moscow). It is absolutely same in Russia (5.18) and in the USA (5.1) - all numbers are openly available in the Internet. And that rate includes all deaths on Northern Caucasus during countless anti-terror military operations, which is actually a real war against radicals. Why the people say it's twice higher here? Where do they get such an information?

                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Grapesoda
                                                                                                                                                      if I was going to shoot for fun I would get a black powder navy colt

                                                                                                                                                      Always wanted this one (not for a self defense, but just for fun), but you won't get a license for it in Russia. Funny, a 7.62 AK47 is ok - you can legally buy it anywhere, but an old powder Colt revolver is a crime here...
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                                                                                                                                                            • DirtyDanza
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                                                                                                                                                              I’m an instructor here in Las Vegas and to answer your question of what’s better.....

                                                                                                                                                              Something you’ll carry everyday is what’s best....

                                                                                                                                                              Don’t take advice from this guy or that guy

                                                                                                                                                              What is Comfy and shoots well for me may not be comfy and shoot well for you:.... sure it may be a great firearm but if you aren’t comfy carrying it then you won’t and that defeats the whole thing....

                                                                                                                                                              I don’t know anyone that wants to be shot with even a .22

                                                                                                                                                              If that’s what your comfy with that’s what you carry....

                                                                                                                                                              Personally I’m a Sig guy....

                                                                                                                                                              Glock is good, Kimber is good, sig is good....

                                                                                                                                                              Hi point - ehhhhhh but if that’s what your most comfy with then carry it
                                                                                                                                                              Danza Bucks is back!!!

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                                                                                                                                                                • just a punk
                                                                                                                                                                  So fuckin' bored
                                                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                                  • 32385
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by DirtyDanza
                                                                                                                                                                  I don’t know anyone that wants to be shot with even a .22
                                                                                                                                                                  He really wanted to be. But he wasn't - a surprise... like Ruger SP101



                                                                                                                                                                  P.S. When we speak about .22LR, we speak about a single shot card-sized toy, which needs about a minute to be reloaded. You said you are an instructor. Do you understand what we are talking about?
                                                                                                                                                                  Obey the Cowgod

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                                                                                                                                                                    • Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                                      Biker Gnome
                                                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                                                      • 23200
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by DirtyDanza
                                                                                                                                                                      I’m an instructor here in Las Vegas and to answer your question of what’s better.....

                                                                                                                                                                      Something you’ll carry everyday is what’s best....

                                                                                                                                                                      Don’t take advice from this guy or that guy

                                                                                                                                                                      What is Comfy and shoots well for me may not be comfy and shoot well for you:.... sure it may be a great firearm but if you aren’t comfy carrying it then you won’t and that defeats the whole thing....

                                                                                                                                                                      I don’t know anyone that wants to be shot with even a .22

                                                                                                                                                                      If that’s what your comfy with that’s what you carry....

                                                                                                                                                                      Personally I’m a Sig guy....

                                                                                                                                                                      Glock is good, Kimber is good, sig is good....

                                                                                                                                                                      Hi point - ehhhhhh but if that’s what your most comfy with then carry it
                                                                                                                                                                      Have to agree about the 22, aim for the eye, no skull behind it and it just rattles around in there
                                                                                                                                                                      Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                                                                                                      think about that

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                                                                                                                                                                        • Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                                          Biker Gnome
                                                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                                                          • 23200
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by ~Evilin~


                                                                                                                                                                          My dad has a 45.70 6 shot single action revolver. Hoping he passes it down to me soon!
                                                                                                                                                                          Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                                                                                                          think about that

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                                                                                                                                                                            • Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                                              Biker Gnome
                                                                                                                                                                              • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                                                              • 23200
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Grapesoda
                                                                                                                                                                              my first choice was a tarsus 'judge' but they are illegal in cally, and my second though I didn't want to kill everybody in the building by blowing threw all the walls.



                                                                                                                                                                              if I was going to shoot for fun I would get a black powder navy colt

                                                                                                                                                                              Next time I get out my flintlocks, I'll give you a call, the whole gun range stops shooting when I let them loose, 69 caliber and have about 8 or 9 feet of flame coming out.
                                                                                                                                                                              Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                                                                                                              think about that

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                                                                                                                                                                                • Grapesoda
                                                                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 46234
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                                                  Hoping he passes it down to me soon!
                                                                                                                                                                                  that's kinda grim

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Grapesoda
                                                                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 46234
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                                                      My dad has a 45.70 6 shot single action revolver. Hoping he passes it down to me soon!

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                                                          Biker Gnome
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 23200
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Grapesoda
                                                                                                                                                                                          that's kinda grim
                                                                                                                                                                                          He hasn't gone shooting in a few years, owns some guns I really want. I would rather he hadn't them to me, he's only 80 and most in my family live well into our 90s at least
                                                                                                                                                                                          Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                                                                                                                          think about that

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Grapesoda
                                                                                                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 46234
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                                                              He hasn't gone shooting in a few years, owns some guns I really want. I would rather he hadn't them to me, he's only 80 and most in my family live well into our 90s at least
                                                                                                                                                                                              looking onto a vette, z06, they are about 11K off sticker... lets hope Edison does right by me ..... everyone is worried they will pull and bankruptcy. should be interesting

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • noshit
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 1582
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  .
                                                                                                                                                                                                  You Can't Go Wrong With Glock
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • slapass
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 14625
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                                                                                                                                                                                      The OP lives in LA, I live in Moscow. What's a reason to compare something with Chechnya, Dagestan or other parts of Russia where we still have anti-terror military operations?

                                                                                                                                                                                                      So, educate yourself: Crime Comparison Between Moscow, Russia And Los Angeles, CA, United States. Safety Comparison.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      6.3 for LÁ versus 6.1 for Moscow. You saw his response. It was a mistake not a violent crime. You live in similar violence based on murder rate. Amd FYI, LÁ is over our national average.

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