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faxxaff 07-22-2020 08:44 AM

It may have to do with how the models were recruited rather than the actual contracts or taping. The media just takes out and prints the facts that will draw more attention.
Maybe the girls wanted to work in a brothel, but never agreed on having the video released. So many variables.

SpicyM 07-22-2020 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faxxaff (Post 22706160)
It may have to do with how the models were recruited

This. :2 cents:

sirkonstantine 07-26-2020 12:27 PM

The Czech police are idiots. They just disturbed the operations of a perfectly fine company. I bet you that the case will not go to court, as there's not enough evidence. Then the operators won't even get a "sorry" from the police for interrupting shit.

The article said that they filmed the whole casting from start to end, had the girls sign a contract, and informed them of the filming. Those girls are just idiots.

I hope they get back to work soon!

Matyko 07-27-2020 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirkonstantine (Post 22708570)
The Czech police are idiots. They just disturbed the operations of a perfectly fine company. I bet you that the case will not go to court, as there's not enough evidence. Then the operators won't even get a "sorry" from the police for interrupting shit.

The article said that they filmed the whole casting from start to end, had the girls sign a contract, and informed them of the filming. Those girls are just idiots.

I hope they get back to work soon!

This:2 cents:

Ondrej is a fucking pro, I am sure you are right.

Crossing fingers for some good news Very Soon! :pimp

celandina 07-27-2020 09:03 AM

I hope they do NOT invoke "GirlsDoPorn" defense

teomaxxx 07-28-2020 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matyko (Post 22708839)
This:2 cents:

Ondrej is a fucking pro, I am sure you are right.

Crossing fingers for some good news Very Soon! :pimp

From what I read today, they are closer to the prison time then on the way out of prison.

The thing is, they had some small line in contract, if the girls rejects to perform the gig (porn), then she is going to pay around 200k CZK back (9k usd).
Appartenly many girls didnt read the whole contract and then they tried to force them to perform, otherwise -200k czk lawsuit (which they wouldnt peform as they didnt want to go under scruitiny).

BigFurry 07-28-2020 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teomaxxx (Post 22709658)
From what I read today, they are closer to the prison time then on the way out of prison.

The thing is, they had some small line in contract, if the girls rejects to perform the gig (porn), then she is going to pay around 200k CZK back (9k usd).
Appartenly many girls didnt read the whole contract and then they tried to force them to perform, otherwise -200k czk lawsuit (which they wouldnt peform as they didnt want to go under scruitiny).

Could you link the new article please?

Matyko 07-28-2020 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teomaxxx (Post 22709658)
From what I read today, they are closer to the prison time then on the way out of prison.

The thing is, they had some small line in contract, if the girls rejects to perform the gig (porn), then she is going to pay around 200k CZK back (9k usd).
Appartenly many girls didnt read the whole contract and then they tried to force them to perform, otherwise -200k czk lawsuit (which they wouldnt peform as they didnt want to go under scruitiny).

Now this is a pretty serious accusation/charge, curious if true or urban legend :pimp

Klen 07-29-2020 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigFurry (Post 22709744)
Could you link the new article please?

https://www.seznamzpravy.cz/clanek/s...y-vykon-113576

Porn academy 07-29-2020 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigFurry (Post 22709744)
Could you link the new article please?


I got the same info

celandina 07-29-2020 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klen (Post 22710097)

Just read the whole article ( incl. excerpts from the agreement)... They have TWO problems:

1) They did NOT attempt to give the women time to read and study the agreement. This should have been done days before they shot the videos.

2) They "allowed" a consideration for " withdrawing from the agreement" ( with about $8,000 penalty). This is NON enforceable from either side. Once you agree to " work for hire" and assign the proceeds of your labor to the producer and you get duly paid, you cannot withdraw. If you could, then every actor who does NOT like the movie he/she was in could stop the movie release. Not just porn but the whole entertainment industry would go down.

It shows that both the "lawyering" and the execution of the agreement was wrong. To add to a peculiarity, Czech juris prudence has many unusual rules left over from the commie era and some even go back all the way to Austro Hungarian Empire days. So the outcome if this case is uncertain.

Matyko 07-29-2020 07:22 AM

Read the article.. Sounds Horrible! :O 12 years in prison. :OOOOO
Anyone got any remark/info from Ondrej? Or is he one of the guys already in jail?

seriouslee 07-29-2020 12:21 PM

If "voluntarily" refusing to do the porn shoot that wasn't even mentioned before came effectively with a bill of around 9,000 dollars, hard to believe a judge would rule any of this to be really voluntary.

nikki99 07-29-2020 01:19 PM

their websites are all up

ilnjscb 07-29-2020 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22710200)
Just read the whole article ( incl. excerpts from the agreement)... They have TWO problems:

1) They did NOT attempt to give the women time to read and study the agreement. This should have been done days before they shot the videos.

2) They "allowed" a consideration for " withdrawing from the agreement" ( with about $8,000 penalty). This is NON enforceable from either side. Once you agree to " work for hire" and assign the proceeds of your labor to the producer and you get duly paid, you cannot withdraw. If you could, then every actor who does NOT like the movie he/she was in could stop the movie release. Not just porn but the whole entertainment industry would go down.

It shows that both the "lawyering" and the execution of the agreement was wrong. To add to a peculiarity, Czech juris prudence has many unusual rules left over from the commie era and some even go back all the way to Austro Hungarian Empire days. So the outcome if this case is uncertain.

In this respect jurisprudence is similar the world over. Don't worry too much about the letter of the law, worry about pissing off powerful people.

abinthenet 07-30-2020 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikki99 (Post 22710396)
their websites are all up

Generally it looks that sites and webmaster program works normally. Even promo materials were added to NATs after 17th ... but payments weren't and aren't sending of course

MatureKing 07-30-2020 06:11 AM

Wish I will visit Czech.. and everything will changed

klinton 07-31-2020 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abinthenet (Post 22710643)
but payments weren't and aren't sending of course

what you mean? how you know?

Klen 07-31-2020 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22711078)
what you mean? how you know?

Normally in situations like this bank accounts get frozen, and you cant really do payments then.

MatureKing 07-31-2020 02:37 AM

ok,,, ok,.,, you want realy know what is happening meanwhile in Czech DeFuckingPublic

https://cdn.czechcash.com/promo/tube.../bitch_002.jpg

Matyko 07-31-2020 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klen (Post 22711080)
Normally in situations like this bank accounts get frozen, and you cant really do payments then.

I guess they don't keep all the company money on a single bank account, affiliate payments are probably/hopefully handled in a different way.

I submitted an invoice a few weeks ago, for around $1.5k, will keep you updated if it goes through or not. There was another payment earlier this year for around $3.5k and it arrived as expected.

Klen 07-31-2020 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matyko (Post 22711094)
I guess they don't keep all the company money on a single bank account, affiliate payments are probably/hopefully handled in a different way.

I submitted an invoice a few weeks ago, for around $1.5k, will keep you updated if it goes through or not. There was another payment earlier this year for around $3.5k and it arrived as expected.

That again would depend on which country they have bank accounts. If they have in CZ only, then all accounts get frozen.

abinthenet 07-31-2020 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klen (Post 22711080)
Normally in situations like this bank accounts get frozen, and you cant really do payments then.

I sent an invoice over 10 weeks ago. In NATs my payments has been marked as paid on 10th of july, but till today i didn't receive money (it should takes up to 2 days). As I read police went to theirs office on 17th of July, so it wasn't depent on this incident

nikki99 07-31-2020 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MatureKing (Post 22711090)
ok,,, ok,.,, you want realy know what is happening meanwhile in Czech DeFuckingPublic

https://cdn.czechcash.com/promo/tube.../bitch_002.jpg

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh watching porn?

Paul Markham 08-03-2020 06:56 AM

Scumbags like these deserve all they are about to get.

nikki99 08-03-2020 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22712408)
Scumbags like these deserve all they are about to get.

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Phoenix 08-03-2020 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teomaxxx (Post 22709658)
From what I read today, they are closer to the prison time then on the way out of prison.

The thing is, they had some small line in contract, if the girls rejects to perform the gig (porn), then she is going to pay around 200k CZK back (9k usd).
Appartenly many girls didnt read the whole contract and then they tried to force them to perform, otherwise -200k czk lawsuit (which they wouldnt peform as they didnt want to go under scruitiny).

ah that could be trouble if true

SpicyM 08-03-2020 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matyko (Post 22710207)
Read the article.. Sounds Horrible! :O 12 years in prison. :OOOOO
Anyone got any remark/info from Ondrej? Or is he one of the guys already in jail?


There are European countries where they could face 20 or more years in prison for that. Czechia has very liberal laws.

faxxaff 08-03-2020 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikki99 (Post 22712414)
:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Agreed. I saw some nude art models on their site. They never did porn anywhere else, just posed for Metart and co. Wonder why they looked so unhappy on CC and never ever did porn again.

Adraco 08-03-2020 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirkonstantine (Post 22708570)
The Czech police are idiots. They just disturbed the operations of a perfectly fine company. I bet you that the case will not go to court, as there's not enough evidence. Then the operators won't even get a "sorry" from the police for interrupting shit.

The article said that they filmed the whole casting from start to end, had the girls sign a contract, and informed them of the filming. Those girls are just idiots.

I hope they get back to work soon!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matyko (Post 22708839)
This:2 cents:

Ondrej is a fucking pro, I am sure you are right.

What kind of shit statements are those? Someonewho’s a ”fucking pro” does not need to cheat girls into un-enforcable contracts.

Peter Romero 08-03-2020 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22712408)
Scumbags like these deserve all they are about to get.

You are alive!!! It's good to have you back!

Porn academy 08-04-2020 12:40 AM

There are some news floating around that police is visiting other registered adult film producers based in Czech Republic.

_Richard_ 08-04-2020 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teomaxxx (Post 22709658)
From what I read today, they are closer to the prison time then on the way out of prison.

The thing is, they had some small line in contract, if the girls rejects to perform the gig (porn), then she is going to pay around 200k CZK back (9k usd).
Appartenly many girls didnt read the whole contract and then they tried to force them to perform, otherwise -200k czk lawsuit (which they wouldnt peform as they didnt want to go under scruitiny).

:Oh crap:Oh crap

I wonder if this is owed as soon as the contract is signed or once the content is shot.. the former would definitely seem like extortion

cordoba 08-04-2020 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porn academy (Post 22712779)
There are some news floating around that police is visiting other registered adult film producers based in Czech Republic.

I wonder if all this will make it more difficult even perhaps for adult affiliates in the Czech Republic? I mean, banks might not be so keen to have clients with any connection to the porn industry perhaps, and so on.

Is Ondrej the guy who is banging the girls in the videos? It seems to be the same guy in every one.

Klen 08-04-2020 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cordoba (Post 22712840)
I wonder if all this will make it more difficult even perhaps for adult affiliates in the Czech Republic? I mean, banks might not be so keen to have clients with any connection to the porn industry perhaps, and so on.

Is Ondrej the guy who is banging the girls in the videos? It seems to be the same guy in every one.

Doubt, this country is too liberal for such thing to happen.

ibou12 08-05-2020 08:20 AM

From the information i have, it seems Ondrej is not in prison. Or not in prison anymore... ;)

He's not the guy fucking the girls during the castings. News sites gave away the name of the guy. He was arrested and i was told he's Nessa Devil's brother.


I'm quite skeptic about this whole "forcing girls case".

- Everybody knows Prague is the place to be for porn in Europe. It would be surprising Czech girls don't know that.
- People looking for pretty 18+ girls. Girls don't think it may be a porn or escorting job ?
- Not reading the contract you sign. What a brilliant idea.
- I saw plenty of CzechCasting videos in which the girls are not getting fucked. Plenty of videos are blowjob/handjob only or nudity only.
That's the proof that not getting fucked is an option.

I think plenty of "not so smart girls" now understand that they are having troubles in their life because they are "pornstars". That's pretty sad but it was quite predictable. They are probably telling bullshit to the police in order to clear their names. Like "i'm not a pornstar, i'm a manipulated raped girl". And of course they want the video removed.

Good luck because even if Netlook deletes those videos it will still be available forever on pirate sites.

Most porn companies have the same issue with girls who are ok to take the money and shoot videos and then want the videos deleted because life sucks.


Maybe the complete casting videos will show there is no problem at all.

Maybe there will be some agreement between Netlook and the girls and those specific videos will be deleted (something like 20 videos out of 2000+) in order to avoid bigger troubles...

Matyko 08-06-2020 03:48 AM

...while this happens, a new CzechCash site was opened - CzechHypno.com
https://www.gotporn.com/czechhypno-f...video-14438782

Porn academy 08-12-2020 10:27 AM

They are still in jail till police gets all evidence from seized computers and paper work.

What I heard is that the investigation started 2016/2017 and included wiretapping conversations and some under cover police applying for the castings/job. This is not only regarding the contracts and forced filming it has more to the story.

BigFurry 08-12-2020 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matyko (Post 22713957)
...while this happens, a new CzechCash site was opened - CzechHypno.com
https://www.gotporn.com/czechhypno-f...video-14438782

They launched that new site before the bust.

https://twitter.com/CzechAV/status/1280478742876434432 - July 7th
Police action - July 13th

The Porn Nerd 08-12-2020 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigFurry (Post 22716758)
They launched that new site before the bust.

https://twitter.com/CzechAV/status/1280478742876434432 - July 7th
Police action - July 13th

Timing is everything. :pimp

BigFurry 08-18-2020 03:20 AM

I had no CzechCash rebills in the first half of August. It's not impossible, but highly unusual.

Anyone experience the same?

BigFurry 08-18-2020 03:20 AM

Could admins merge the other thread into this please? It's about the same topic.

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-b...ng-models.html

Matyko 08-18-2020 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigFurry (Post 22719188)
I had no CzechCash rebills in the first half of August. It's not impossible, but highly unusual.

Anyone experience the same?

Weird - I see 4 rebills and 2 sales, but I used to have 15-20 rebills every month, for a pretty long time.. :pimp :(

Paul Markham 08-18-2020 05:42 AM

They need the funds to pay for lawyers!!!

thepornbrother 08-18-2020 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matyko (Post 22705409)
I am pretty sure Ondrej and his team managed this in a professional way, I blame the (stupid + naive) "models" [whores, sluts, ladies, etc: pick the one that fits your opinion the best]

Crossing fingers for CzechAV! :pimp

Hi,
I have to take a position in favor of the girls,
One of friend being there and should be assured that videos should not be visible at all to Czech people.

Not only, the girls goes there for photo shooting (1000kc) and then offered 4000kc for porn scene, giving guarantee and bla bla bla

A big company if does all right, have also to be right to the girls no?
Seems they took advantage of the girls.

4000kc in the industry you don't get even BJ.

In the videos you can see many girls not comfortable as mostly they do to earn some cash and not to go spreaded all over the world.

Another nice thing that owner of website asks the girl 250.000kc to take the video off the site...

If police been in they're offices, something not clear they did no? so maybe the (stupids + naive girls) try to get they're revenge in same way they been treated

Genius in creating brands
Evil in a way they did it

SpicyM 08-18-2020 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thepornbrother (Post 22719396)
One of friend being there and should be assured that videos should not be visible at all to Czech people.

They actually block local IPs, so the site is not accessible from some countries, but if they use the videos on tubes, then they can't restrict access to those. Same for pirated scenes, they can be easily found with Google.

BigFurry 08-18-2020 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 22719454)
They actually block local IPs, so the site is not accessible from some countries,

Any site named "CzechCasting" will automatically be one of the most interesting sites for Czech men. The only thing they need to view it is a cheap VPN or proxy. (There are free ones even.)

Telling someone that something will be "blocked" in one country is misguidance. It's impossible with today's technology, any company with an IT/WebDev team knows this.

SpicyM 08-19-2020 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigFurry (Post 22719683)
Any site named "CzechCasting" will automatically be one of the most interesting sites for Czech men. The only thing they need to view it is a cheap VPN or proxy. (There are free ones even.)

Telling someone that something will be "blocked" in one country is misguidance. It's impossible with today's technology, any company with an IT/WebDev team knows this.


That's right and the site is notorious for their castings, but then the average Joe surfing porn doesn't have a clue what proxy or VPN is. They most likely found their tube channels which, of course, are available for anyone.

klinton 08-27-2020 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigFurry (Post 22719188)
I had no CzechCash rebills in the first half of August. It's not impossible, but highly unusual.

Anyone experience the same?

hello, same here !
looks like 90 % of my rebills suddenly "died".
quite impossible.

Klen 08-28-2020 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 22719701)
That's right and the site is notorious for their castings, but then the average Joe surfing porn doesn't have a clue what proxy or VPN is. They most likely found their tube channels which, of course, are available for anyone.

That was maybe before mobile era, but in mobile era having a VPN is one click away and presented easily so anyone can understand why is needed and how it works.


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