I already wait for a reply from Verotel support for 3 weeks. Now that you mention that verotel could be next, ignoring support inquiries is always like it starts.

The only high risk in this biz are those 3rd party billers.

yea i referred a lot of business to Verotel over the years but they failed hard after Jason left. they forced a lot of clients to go thru the verification process again and they can't get any new sites live.

Verotel's new "free" iBill service, which i thought would replace Zombaio, is about as shitty as Zombaio. i've referred clients there and they never get to installation.

Verotel referral payments are a thing of the past, since they can't get any accounts approved. maybe they got hammered by Visa/MC.

CCbill has all kinds of problems now too. weeks of review and verification and jumping thru hoops. when the install is finally live, clients have to go thru a final review from another department or two. waste of time. i think they outsourced CS to India, but that's just a wild ass guess.

MobiusPay has been doing my clients right over the last couple years. They did a huge tech revamp, built a new API, and they now have hosted join pages. i've built a few custom billing solutions on their system and the gateway API works well. i've built complete checkout systems, but also simple setups with hosted join pages and postbacks. they have helpful techs who actually know the system.

Who knows what the rest of the year will bring - maybe all porn will be banned from Visa - but that's where billing stands from my POV (as a guy who installs 20-50 billing accounts per year).

#porncms

Verotel is strong....

You get what you pay for.

Less or more all companies feel the crisis

All this negativity about Zombaio! I mean, it may not have worked out too well for everyone, but some people did okay. Take co-founder John Cavebring, for instance.
https://bit.ly/3pR6D7R
Does he look down on his luck? Sure many of his companies are in liquidation or bankruptcy these days, but he's got lots more of those all over the place. And he made it into the Paradise Papers on account of his assets tucked away safe from the tax man in Malta. :)

Eh? Unless your company is catering porn shoots I think most of us in online porn are now making more then before :thumbsup

Has anyone gotten a notification from bankruptcy court, too?

There are some which have claims over $100,000 against zombaio. I just have claims of $5000, let's see what liquidation brings and after I will go for those crooks personally.

As they didn't give me notifications, but simply stopped payouts and rebilled clients until January 2021.

From their inventory sheet those crooks even leased a Tesla as company car. Their is also a claim against wirecard which possibly finally broke zombaios neck.

I doubt you will be able to lift the veal of limited liability and even trying for $5k internationally is a waste of time and money. You are unlikely to win and you will spend 2x that on lawyers in Sweden at least. You would have to be able to prove that the CEO knew that the company was insolvent and continued to run it, and the CEO has to actually have assets in his name - you cannot get blood from a stone.

I know that's why I look here for people to join a group. There is also a method called "European Small Claims procedure", it's about 90 EUR and one doesnt need a lawyer first.
https://europa.eu/youreurope/busines...e/index_en.htm

Or simply go for vacation in sweden, visit their adresses and solve it old style.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You cannot sue a company that is in administration, I'm afraid. They are protected from any enforcement and as long as the receiver has your claim, you will not get anymore than the percentage due when all the company's affairs have been wound up.

See my post below. "zombaio-bankruptcy-nearing-completion-information-payout"

Which "post below"?

I dont want to sue a bankrupt company as this is useless, I want to go straight for the private persons (managers) who still collected money for several month while knowing they are bankrupt.

I just put a reply on it to bump it up. Previously this forum wouldn't let me post a link, but I will try again. Ah no, I am not allowed to post links. The title of the post is. "zombaio-bankruptcy-nearing-completion-information-payout".

I think your best chance of holding these guys to account is to make a complaint to the Swedish Economic Crimes Authority – Ekobrottsmyndigheten. You need to make a complaint with what is criminal, rather than merely the civil wrong of having failed to pay a debt. Contact me, and I will share what information I have.