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CaptainHowdy 11-22-2020 05:34 PM

Fiddy PayFiends . . .

ilnjscb 11-22-2020 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 22777618)
Then log in to the partner network console and let me see your screenshot from this panel


https://i.ibb.co/Y7y37wF/awscerts.jpg

What are you talking about? You are the one who bizarrely used your supposed AWS certification as some kind of proof you are a "chief architect" for Amazon, which is frankly laughable. You are at best a temp coder, probably from a cheap Eastern European sweat shop. There is no shame in that! Your countrymen make $300 a month and you are easily making twice that! I actually admire you for your success. Regardless, you clearly know very little about international, US federal, state, city, corporate, or individual tax law, and even less about genuine end to end transaction protocols.

Setting that aside, I urge you to consider your ridiculous off-putting devotion to Paypal's nutsack. It is sad and somewhat nauseating to watch. Get a backbone friend! Remember you worked your way up from a small Eastern European village to where you are today - those pathetic beet eating simpletons from your village - if only they could see you now!

sarettah 11-22-2020 09:42 PM

I like pie.

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Ferus 11-23-2020 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 22777870)
What are you talking about? You are the one who bizarrely used your supposed AWS certification as some kind of proof you are a "chief architect" for Amazon, which is frankly laughable. You are at best a temp coder, probably from a cheap Eastern European sweat shop. There is no shame in that! Your countrymen make $300 a month and you are easily making twice that! I actually admire you for your success. Regardless, you clearly know very little about international, US federal, state, city, corporate, or individual tax law, and even less about genuine end to end transaction protocols.

Setting that aside, I urge you to consider your ridiculous off-putting devotion to Paypal's nutsack. It is sad and somewhat nauseating to watch. Get a backbone friend! Remember you worked your way up from a small Eastern European village to where you are today - those pathetic beet eating simpletons from your village - if only they could see you now!

Get of your meds...

elliso 11-23-2020 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 22777527)
Because I have no sympathy for people that cheats. Did you read the messages above? or are you to fucking dumb to understand what happened? (this is my opinion based on your post history and retarded questions)


Paypal grow about 10-15% each year - Try anyone that can claim the same over so many years in the field

Your nothing and you will be nothing :) jack ass like you must not be online.
gfy for lifetime:321GFY

elliso 11-23-2020 06:04 AM

paypal s reply Today with robotic reply !!!!!!

Thank you for contacting PayPal Customer Support. My name is Nelrose. I can sense the urgency of having access on your funds.

PayPal maintains an Acceptable Use Policy to identify the types of products and services that are prohibited and those that require pre-approval.

Ultimately, it is the responsibility of the buyers and sellers to ensure they are compliant with all applicable laws and policies. All customers are required to conduct transactions in accordance with the Acceptable Use Policy. Sellers should also carefully read the PayPal Acceptable Use Policy if they plan to use PayPal as their payment processor. Failure to comply with these policies may result in limitations placed on your ability to use PayPal’s products and services.

Funds in your balance was used to satisfy any obligations you may have under the User Agreement and Acceptable Use Policy, which may include potential liabilities to third parties and to PayPal for each violation of the Acceptable Use Policy.

Sellers who violate the Acceptable Use Policy are liable to PayPal for the amount of PayPal's losses caused by the violation. As stated in the User Agreement, $2,500 per violation is a reasonable minimum estimate of PayPal’s actual losses considering all existing circumstances. Notification of this action appears on your account history and periodic statement.

For further information, please click 'Legal" at the bottom of any PayPal webpage and click the "Acceptable Use Policy" link.

It is my pleasure to assist you. Thank you for choosing PayPal.
Sincerely,Nelrose. PayPal

ANYONE UNDERSTOOD THIS BULLSHIT?
I OPEN A COMPLAINT AGAINST THEM IN BBB.ORG and i am looking for alternative ways as i should withdrawal my funds in janaury 2021.

elliso 11-23-2020 06:07 AM

ANOTHER YEAR REPLY FROM PAYPAL :) TOTALLY DIFFERENT

NEW REPLY

Thank you for contacting PayPal Customer Support. My name is Meryl and I understand that you want to access the funds on your account.

After reviewing your account, I see that it has been placed on a permanent limitation because it was found that you have violated PayPal's Acceptable Use Policy.

If you violate the Acceptable Use Policy, we may hold your funds up to 180 Days, may debit your PayPal account up to $2,500.00 USD (or its equivalent in other currencies) for each such violation and may take legal action against you to recover additional losses we incur.

When you accepted the PayPal User Agreement you agreed that $2,500.00 USD (or its equivalent in other currencies) per AUP violation is a reasonable minimum estimate of PayPal's actual damages, considering all currently existing circumstances, including the relationship of the sum to the range of harm to PayPal that reasonably could be anticipated because, due to the nature of the violations of the Acceptable Use Policy, actual damages would be impractical or extremely difficult to calculate . PayPal may deduct such damages directly from any existing PayPal balance in any PayPal Account you created, own and or control.

The specific activities that may subject you to fines by PayPal can be found in the Acceptable Use Policy.Sincerely,MerylPayPal

CurrentlySober 11-23-2020 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22777881)
I like poo.

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Fixed that for me...:upsidedow

Ferus 11-23-2020 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elliso (Post 22778008)

ANYONE UNDERSTOOD THIS BULLSHIT?
I OPEN A COMPLAINT AGAINST THEM IN BBB.ORG and i am looking for alternative ways as i should withdrawal my funds in janaury 2021.


I think most did. Paypal had to pay the banks that issued the cards to the users you defrauded, because the users wanted their money back, and in the end, Paypal will pay the bank, and guess what .. the scammer walks away with none of his loot :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I am thankfull the system works, and that is why Paypal grow their customerbase every fucking year

I really hope you would file a complaint at BBB.org because they will tell you the same, and be happy that Paypal proteced the customer... its like you dont understand that the system was put in place to protect customers against people like you, and now you want to file a complaint?

It's like hearing one of thise 911 calls, where the crackhead calls the cope, because he paid to much for coke :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I am so entertained right now - thanks to you

Brian mike 11-23-2020 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 22778018)
I really hope you would file a complaint at BBB.org because they will tell you the same

Bribing BBB.org $500/ year is not Worth it :1orglaugh .... He can file a complaint and BBB will tell him to take them to court. :1orglaugh

BBB.org is the Biggest scam with the So call Accredited by BBB ! If you have a business and Paid once you will understand their scam. :2 cents:

They are giving the rating on businesses that paying them or not paying them. You can figure out the rest :thumbsup

Ferus 11-23-2020 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22778023)
Bribing BBB.org $500/ year is not Worth it :1orglaugh .... He can file a complaint and BBB will tell him to take them to court. :1orglaugh

BBB.org is the Biggest scam but you need to have a business and Pay once to understand their scam. :2 cents:

That was what I was hoping he would do.. Then he can come back and tell us BBB.org stole his $500 and I can chuckle a little for few hours, watching that guy implode

Brian mike 11-23-2020 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 22778024)
That was what I was hoping he would do.. Then he can come back and tell us BBB.org stole his $500 and I can chuckle a little for few hours, watching that guy implode

:1orglaugh :bowdown

ilnjscb 11-23-2020 08:10 AM

Regardless of his individual case, Paypal sucks

elliso 11-23-2020 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22778023)
Bribing BBB.org $500/ year is not Worth it :1orglaugh .... He can file a complaint and BBB will tell him to take them to court. :1orglaugh

BBB.org is the Biggest scam with the So call Accredited by BBB ! If you have a business and Paid once you will understand their scam. :2 cents:

They are giving the rating on businesses that paying them or not paying them. You can figure out the rest :thumbsup

Are you serious ???

let me know your opinion abouy this american guy who have same iusse like me and its has been sloved by BBB.org

Paypal took my money | Payment to:Paypal;PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
I had been waiting for 6 months to withdraw my money and when I go into my account on the 178th day I see my finds have been withdrawn from 2 accounts that were frozen. Both are business verified accounts. Never had a chargeback, dispute or anything like that.



This was in the memo of each transaction. Between the 2 accounts the total amounts to $14,000

$x,xxx.xx;PayPal Posting Date:Oct 29, 2019;Payment to:Paypal;PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation



I called yesterday what seemed like a level 1 customer service rep.

She said she sent a request to info to the banking dept.? and said to wait for an email.



I am not sure what to do. I was disappointed Paypal permanently limited me as I had been using Paypal for over 10 years, but I never thought in my wildest dreams that they would keep my money.

I am not sure what to do. A search on Google for "Payment to:Paypal;PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation" only shows a couple of posts from a site called 'aspskins', it seems like those guys sell some sort of digital goods. I am a marketing agency that once again never had any sort of negative reviews, chargebacks or disputes, before and during the 180 days.

I can't get my head around how I would have a caused Paypal 1$ in damages let alone $14,000
Any help would be much appreciated.
Solved! Go to Solution.
There are literally hundreds to over a thousand ways we can violate PayPal's user agreement, some not even listed exactly but are related in some fashion. Not just chargebacks, claims, disputes. Since it says it's for Acceptable Use violations, it could be something you sold or your business model that's not permitted so you must look in that part of the user agreement if it applies. Weird that they'd do this and not notify you.

Since you're in the US, I suggest opening a case with bbb.org under PayPal San Jose CA to get PayPal Office of Executive Escalations to review your account.

Kudos & Solved are greatly appreciated. :slightly_smiling_face:
View solution in original post

Brian mike 11-23-2020 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elliso (Post 22778067)
Are you serious ???

let me know your opinion abouy this american guy who have same iusse like me and its has been sloved by BBB.org

Paypal took my money | Payment to:Paypal;PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
I had been waiting for 6 months to withdraw my money and when I go into my account on the 178th day I see my finds have been withdrawn from 2 accounts that were frozen. Both are business verified accounts. Never had a chargeback, dispute or anything like that.



This was in the memo of each transaction. Between the 2 accounts the total amounts to $14,000

$x,xxx.xx;PayPal Posting Date:Oct 29, 2019;Payment to:Paypal;PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation



I called yesterday what seemed like a level 1 customer service rep.

She said she sent a request to info to the banking dept.? and said to wait for an email.



I am not sure what to do. I was disappointed Paypal permanently limited me as I had been using Paypal for over 10 years, but I never thought in my wildest dreams that they would keep my money.

I am not sure what to do. A search on Google for "Payment to:Paypal;PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation" only shows a couple of posts from a site called 'aspskins', it seems like those guys sell some sort of digital goods. I am a marketing agency that once again never had any sort of negative reviews, chargebacks or disputes, before and during the 180 days.

I can't get my head around how I would have a caused Paypal 1$ in damages let alone $14,000
Any help would be much appreciated.
Solved! Go to Solution.
There are literally hundreds to over a thousand ways we can violate PayPal's user agreement, some not even listed exactly but are related in some fashion. Not just chargebacks, claims, disputes. Since it says it's for Acceptable Use violations, it could be something you sold or your business model that's not permitted so you must look in that part of the user agreement if it applies. Weird that they'd do this and not notify you.

Since you're in the US, I suggest opening a case with bbb.org under PayPal San Jose CA to get PayPal Office of Executive Escalations to review your account.

Kudos & Solved are greatly appreciated. :slightly_smiling_face:
View solution in original post

I will be standing here and waiting for your update about the BBB.org solving your issue.
What I posted in my previous replied is my own Experience with BBB.org with my offline business.

Keep us posted :)

elliso 11-23-2020 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 22778066)
Regardless of his individual case, Paypal sucks


So many haters and low class desparated jack ass ;)

Paypal stolen money which is not joke and some asshole are happy for my stutation,

i feel sad for them.

I Will fight them untill i get every singel centime since i have many options, Paypal does not have right to take money and if there is any problems that would be me and my buyers not Paypal.:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

elliso 11-23-2020 08:31 AM

3th FUNNY REPLY FROM PAYPAL !!!!


Sometimes they confiscate funds under this policy.
https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mp...=en_US#actions

I Have been getting different replies from different departement

Brian mike 11-23-2020 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elliso (Post 22778076)
3th FUNNY REPLY FROM PAYPAL !!!!


Sometimes they confiscate funds under this policy.
https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mp...=en_US#actions

I Have been getting different replies from different departement

You acknowledge and agree that $2,500.00 U.S. dollars per violation of the Acceptable Use Policy is presently a reasonable minimum estimate of PayPal's actual damages considering all currently existing circumstances, including the relationship of the sum to the range of harm to PayPal that reasonably could be anticipated because, due to the nature of the violations of the Acceptable Use Policy, actual damages would be impractical or extremely difficult to calculate. PayPal may deduct such damages directly from any existing balance in any PayPal account you control.

=

Vous reconnaissez et acceptez que 2500,00 $ US par violation de la politique d'utilisation acceptable est actuellement une estimation minimale raisonnable des dommages réels de PayPal compte tenu de toutes les circonstances existantes, y compris le rapport de la somme à la gamme des dommages à PayPal qui pourraient raisonnablement être anticipés parce que , en raison de la nature des violations de la politique d'utilisation acceptable, les dommages réels seraient peu pratiques ou extrêmement difficiles à calculer. PayPal peut déduire ces dommages directement de tout solde existant sur tout compte PayPal que vous contrôlez.

elliso 11-23-2020 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22778080)
You acknowledge and agree that $2,500.00 U.S. dollars per violation of the Acceptable Use Policy is presently a reasonable minimum estimate of PayPal's actual damages considering all currently existing circumstances, including the relationship of the sum to the range of harm to PayPal that reasonably could be anticipated because, due to the nature of the violations of the Acceptable Use Policy, actual damages would be impractical or extremely difficult to calculate. PayPal may deduct such damages directly from any existing balance in any PayPal account you control.

=

Vous reconnaissez et acceptez que 2500,00 $ US par violation de la politique d'utilisation acceptable est actuellement une estimation minimale raisonnable des dommages réels de PayPal compte tenu de toutes les circonstances existantes, y compris le rapport de la somme à la gamme des dommages à PayPal qui pourraient raisonnablement être anticipés parce que , en raison de la nature des violations de la politique d'utilisation acceptable, les dommages réels seraient peu pratiques ou extrêmement difficiles à calculer. PayPal peut déduire ces dommages directement de tout solde existant sur tout compte PayPal que vous contrôlez.

per which violation? i haven t voilent anything, i used thier system, made over 10K
7 left in account and they took it freely with no valid reason

sarettah 11-23-2020 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elliso (Post 22778115)
per which violation? i haven t voilent anything, i used thier system, made over 10K
7 left in account and they took it freely with no valid reason

What were you selling?

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Adraco 11-23-2020 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22778119)
What were you selling?

He has firm buttocks...

elliso 11-23-2020 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22778119)
What were you selling?

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Digtal services VPN / HOST, i was reselling them and never had problem with any customes, once they saw alot of transcation per day, they asks me so many questions and i replied them and due unknow reasons they asks me to stop and limited account, i spoken to them over phone and shoot on them, they replied SIR Your money is available per withdrawal but due there might be refund or chargeback or fraud we will hold it 180days, its 154days now more or less and funds have been taken 4 Novmber without any notice or explantion !!! i am searching online for people who have this iusse and reading and getting in touch to slove a problem, BBB.org might or take them court. 7k is not joke

Ferus 11-23-2020 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elliso (Post 22778123)
Digtal services VPN / HOST, i was reselling them and never had problem with any customes, once they saw alot of transcation per day, they asks me so many questions and i replied them and due unknow reasons they asks me to stop and limited account, i spoken to them over phone and shoot on them, they replied SIR Your money is available per withdrawal but due there might be refund or chargeback or fraud we will hold it 180days, its 154days now more or less and funds have been taken 4 Novmber without any notice or explantion !!! i am searching online for people who have this iusse and reading and getting in touch to slove a problem, BBB.org might or take them court. 7k is not joke

Bullshit... That is not how it works. You are leaving out most of the details

~Evilin~ 11-23-2020 11:16 AM

PP loves to block accounts for nothing. Damned service
This is only way to wait all these 180 days and after you can send all you funds to another service/wallet.
Never keep money on PP (!)

nikki99 11-23-2020 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 22777437)
You really don't seem to have much luck with payment services, do you?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

The Porn Nerd 11-23-2020 12:23 PM

Wow this thread turned into a shit show eh? LOL

Entertaining as fuck tho. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

ilnjscb 11-23-2020 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Evilin~ (Post 22778152)
PP loves to block accounts for nothing. Damned service
This is only way to wait all these 180 days and after you can send all you funds to another service/wallet.
Never keep money on PP (!)

Pretty much

pimpmaster9000 11-23-2020 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 22777560)
I've never died so death doesn't exist
I never got COVID so it doesn't exist
If you wear the right clothes, you won't get raped
If the police killed him, he must have been a criminal

What causes me to wonder is you (well, some of you) Paypal supporters, you don't get anything for it, so why are you (well, some of you) so aggressively licking Paypal's nutsack to the point of attacking people who are trying to share their concerns? What does it matter to you if people are not satisfied with Paypal's conduct? Why does that turn you (well, some of you) into a rabid cheering squad ready to attack anyone? Paypal doesn't have affiliates, doesn't support adult, and we have numerous accounts of sudden unwarranted suspension here on this site.

If I came in here and said Exxon had practices that harmed the earth would you jump on their sack and call me a dumb ratarded scamer bastard? Why do you love Paypal? You aren't legally using it for adult - there are better services

no it is just that with paypal my sales jumped 30-40%...I love them...never a problem...they pay me shit to promote them...why would they pay anybody?...if you do not use paypal for mainstream you are leaving money on the table...booo hooo...if OP broke their rules then fuck him...even with their gay disputes and robot support I want the money...no time to complain too busy making the dough :2 cents::2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

do not hate paypal, do not hate paxum...make money...girl aint got massive tiddies but gives good head, why say no?...

pimpmaster9000 11-23-2020 01:55 PM

anyway do you guys ever wonder why ALL payment processors have bad reviews?...its because of people like OP...too busy to read TOS, breaks TOS, then tries to blackmail via reviews on forums...

as I said in OPs other thread, people like him make reviews worthless...they break every rule and care only about themselves...

$tandaman 11-23-2020 04:58 PM

I've had exactly the same issue with a regular paypal i set up and didn't have anything to do with any digital services.. same BS replies, they replied to my twitter rant.. but came back with the same $2500/violation..

They stole $5k from my account after 180 days.. Just incredible.. i am thinking there might be a class action that's possible or just small claims court, as they don't actually provide any information on what part of their AUP is broken.. so it's impossible to know..

ilnjscb 11-23-2020 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pimpmaster9000 (Post 22778229)
no it is just that with paypal my sales jumped 30-40%...I love them...never a problem...they pay me shit to promote them...why would they pay anybody?...if you do not use paypal for mainstream you are leaving money on the table...booo hooo...if OP broke their rules then fuck him...even with their gay disputes and robot support I want the money...no time to complain too busy making the dough :2 cents::2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

do not hate paypal, do not hate paxum...make money...girl aint got massive tiddies but gives good head, why say no?...

Incorrect - for mainstream I use a top shelf mainstream processor at incredible rates. I don't have to give away my money and it is deposited the next day in real currency in my bank, not in funbucks held by Paypal. I guess if you are small time eccentric crank, you need to lick Paypal's ass because no mainstream processor will work with you.

ilnjscb 11-23-2020 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $tandaman (Post 22778350)
I've had exactly the same issue with a regular paypal i set up and didn't have anything to do with any digital services.. same BS replies, they replied to my twitter rant.. but came back with the same $2500/violation..

They stole $5k from my account after 180 days.. Just incredible.. i am thinking there might be a class action that's possible or just small claims court, as they don't actually provide any information on what part of their AUP is broken.. so it's impossible to know..

Precisely. I got their "we need more data" bullshit, and of course hurriedly complied, but I told the rep to kiss my ass and ask for the documentation before, then if I fail to provide it, you can hold funds. She actually said, "doing it this way increases compliance". I told them to 100% tongue juggle my nuts. It seems like people on here have no alternative, sadly, plus culturally they are used to licking the asses of the Opperhoofd or Bhurgomeister or Dibao or Batangay or whatever the village leader is called who would fuck their sister and their donkey if they didn't give him enough wheat. So sadly they are culturally inclined through long practice to hoover the bung of any madman with a whip.

InfoGuy 11-23-2020 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elliso (Post 22778008)
paypal s reply Today with robotic reply !!!!!!

Thank you for contacting PayPal Customer Support. My name is Nelrose. I can sense the urgency of having access on your funds.

PayPal maintains an Acceptable Use Policy to identify the types of products and services that are prohibited and those that require pre-approval.

Ultimately, it is the responsibility of the buyers and sellers to ensure they are compliant with all applicable laws and policies. All customers are required to conduct transactions in accordance with the Acceptable Use Policy. Sellers should also carefully read the PayPal Acceptable Use Policy if they plan to use PayPal as their payment processor. Failure to comply with these policies may result in limitations placed on your ability to use PayPal’s products and services.

Funds in your balance was used to satisfy any obligations you may have under the User Agreement and Acceptable Use Policy, which may include potential liabilities to third parties and to PayPal for each violation of the Acceptable Use Policy.

Sellers who violate the Acceptable Use Policy are liable to PayPal for the amount of PayPal's losses caused by the violation. As stated in the User Agreement, $2,500 per violation is a reasonable minimum estimate of PayPal’s actual losses considering all existing circumstances. Notification of this action appears on your account history and periodic statement.

For further information, please click 'Legal" at the bottom of any PayPal webpage and click the "Acceptable Use Policy" link.

It is my pleasure to assist you. Thank you for choosing PayPal.
Sincerely,Nelrose. PayPal

ANYONE UNDERSTOOD THIS BULLSHIT?
I OPEN A COMPLAINT AGAINST THEM IN BBB.ORG and i am looking for alternative ways as i should withdrawal my funds in janaury 2021.

Liquidated Damages

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 22778140)
Bullshit... That is not how it works. You are leaving out most of the details

I asked earlier in this thread if it was related to online gambling/money laundering and he didn't deny it, but he did change his "CASINO" avatar to something else, which indicates that he read my post.

elliso 11-23-2020 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InfoGuy (Post 22778436)
Liquidated Damages

I ll check it out


I asked earlier in this thread if it was related to online gambling/money laundering and he didn't deny it, but he did change his "CASINO" avatar to something else, which indicates that he read my post.

i have replied i was doing digital goods

elliso 11-23-2020 07:50 PM

4th Paypal reply

I understand how important it is for you to get your funds back but our decision is final and irrevocable.

Sincerely,
Meryl
PayPal

elliso 11-23-2020 08:12 PM

First setup i took is report and file complaint against paypal.
Your complaint has been submitted
Thank you for submitting your complaint to us.

The BBB that will process your complaint is:

BBB of Los Angeles and Silicon Valley
1112 S Bascom Ave
San Jose, CA 95128-3507
Phone: (408)278-7400
Fax: (213)630-3410
Email Address: [email protected]
Website: www.bbbsilicon.org
You will hear from this BBB soon regarding your complaint.

So whats next?
i i am making group to collect as much as possible of vicitimes llke to go LawSuit paypal, any alternative suggestion or ideas are highly appreacited?

pimpmaster9000 11-24-2020 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 22778366)
Incorrect - for mainstream I use a top shelf mainstream processor at incredible rates. I don't have to give away my money and it is deposited the next day in real currency in my bank, not in funbucks held by Paypal. I guess if you are small time eccentric crank, you need to lick Paypal's ass because no mainstream processor will work with you.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

look I employ 20 people and do millions in sales, let me explain to you how it works: the customer gives 2 shits about your fees and your convenience...he uses the payment form that is convenient for HIM...he uses the payment form that he feels safe using that gives him the right to chargeback instantly...like Paypal...you are obviously low volume so you do not feel things like declined cards for no reason, over scrubbing, international cards not being accepted etc...you do not understand things like the importance of cascade billing and multiple payment forms...but bigger players do :thumbsup

nobody cares if you find paypal a bit inconvenient...I am from serbia and I had to jump through hoops to get a business account verified with Paypal...since then my sales have increased 30-40% and on days when paypal does not work or over scrubs for reasons unclear, I feel the daily drop in sales....I do 30-40 sales/day so I have significant data to meter by...I have multiple companies that compete with my own companies, just to split test approaches in marketing and user experience...I have tried everything under the sun simple because I have gimps to order my will in to existence...I have not only experimented with stuff like which specific payment processors work the best for me but also which combination yields the best return because I have sufficient data to do these measurements...

integrate paypal in to what ever mainstream business you have ALONG with what ever pissant tiny volume ass processor you are using and watch your sales grow...or dont and sulk and leave money on the table :thumbsup

ilnjscb 11-24-2020 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pimpmaster9000 (Post 22778800)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

look I employ 20 people and do millions in sales, let me explain to you how it works: the customer gives 2 shits about your fees and your convenience...he uses the payment form that is convenient for HIM...he uses the payment form that he feels safe using that gives him the right to chargeback instantly...like Paypal...you are obviously low volume so you do not feel things like declined cards for no reason, over scrubbing, international cards not being accepted etc...you do not understand things like the importance of cascade billing and multiple payment forms...but bigger players do :thumbsup

nobody cares if you find paypal a bit inconvenient...I am from serbia and I had to jump through hoops to get a business account verified with Paypal...since then my sales have increased 30-40% and on days when paypal does not work or over scrubs for reasons unclear, I feel the daily drop in sales....I do 30-40 sales/day so I have significant data to meter by...I have multiple companies that compete with my own companies, just to split test approaches in marketing and user experience...I have tried everything under the sun simple because I have gimps to order my will in to existence...I have not only experimented with stuff like which specific payment processors work the best for me but also which combination yields the best return because I have sufficient data to do these measurements...

integrate paypal in to what ever mainstream business you have ALONG with what ever pissant tiny volume ass processor you are using and watch your sales grow...or dont and sulk and leave money on the table :thumbsup

Yes, millions of Zlotols or Hrivni or Yilgools or whatever your currency is called. I could have 20 Serbian employees too if I wanted to pay $600 a month, but why would I do that? Friend, what mainstream processing company works there? Of course you are desperate to pay Paypal's exorbitant rates - Stripe doesn't work there. That must hurt, Stripe works in Latvia and Lithuania, but, ouch, not in Serbia.

I just looked it up, it is the "Serbian Dinar", I grew a small scraggly moustache just from saying "Serbian Dinar". By the way you need to say Serbian Dinar to distinguish from the much better known Iraqi Dinar. Authorize.net doesn't work there either, and they certainly don't process "Serbian Dinars". 100 Serbian Dinars = .01$ so million is 10,000, that sounds about right.

pimpmaster9000 11-24-2020 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 22778835)
Yes, millions of Zlotols or Hrivni or Yilgools or whatever your currency is called. I could have 20 Serbian employees too if I wanted to pay $600 a month, but why would I do that? Friend, what mainstream processing company works there? Of course you are desperate to pay Paypal's exorbitant rates - Stripe doesn't work there. That must hurt, Stripe works in Latvia and Lithuania, but, ouch, not in Serbia.

I just looked it up, it is the "Serbian Dinar", I grew a small scraggly moustache just from saying "Serbian Dinar". By the way you need to say Serbian Dinar to distinguish from the much better known Iraqi Dinar. Authorize.net doesn't work there either, and they certainly don't process "Serbian Dinars". 100 Serbian Dinars = .01$ so million is 10,000, that sounds about right.

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actually I was incorporated in the USA in wyoming until recently...I can get any processing I wish...also I laid out well argumented facts about why cascade billing exists...you are free to pretend like people had nothing better to do than add multiple payment processors...customers like Paypal...you offer this or you make less :thumbsup

pimpmaster9000 11-24-2020 11:04 AM

people who dont like paypal: broke ass OP who notices 100$ paxum fees LOL

ilnjscb 11-24-2020 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by pimpmaster9000 (Post 22778849)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

actually I was incorporated in the USA in wyoming until recently...I can get any processing I wish...also I laid out well argumented facts about why cascade billing exists...you are free to pretend like people had nothing better to do than add multiple payment processors...customers like Paypal...you offer this or you make less :thumbsup

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Originally Posted by pimpmaster9000 (Post 22778852)
people who dont like paypal: broke ass OP who notices 100$ paxum fees LOL

Ok, Tigran. Anyway, many many people have had Paypal pull shit on them with no reason, me included, only I have balls and walked. I don't leave any money on the table, I take the money and the table, then I sell the table for more money. Anyway I am just joking I like Serbia.

elliso 11-25-2020 09:09 AM

update

1- Your FairShake dot com claim has been approved and will be mailed to PayPal on the next business day!

2- i managed to get in touch with 2 vicitims who have Same iusse like me, just made group in telegram and will collect as much as victims who s thier money been taken without thier autorisation.

looking for lawyers online who s expert in paypal cases !!
it s funnny everyday paypal change thier tos and policy
keep following

InfoGuy 11-25-2020 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by elliso (Post 22779312)
update

1- Your FairShake dot com claim has been approved and will be mailed to PayPal on the next business day!

2- i managed to get in touch with 2 vicitims who have Same iusse like me, just made group in telegram and will collect as much as victims who s thier money been taken without thier autorisation.

looking for lawyers online who s expert in paypal cases !!
it s funnny everyday paypal change thier tos and policy
keep following

You'll spend more than $14,000 on legal fees and get nowhere.

elliso 11-25-2020 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by InfoGuy (Post 22779318)
You'll spend more than $14,000 on legal fees and get nowhere.

Seriously???

Then shall we give up and let paypal took our funds, at least they should have refunded money not transfered into thier accounts.

InfoGuy 11-25-2020 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by elliso (Post 22779466)
Seriously???

Then shall we give up and let paypal took our funds, at least they should have refunded money not transfered into thier accounts.

You should cut your losses and walk away. But if you think I'm wrong, then go play "Double or Nothing" with Paypal's army of lawyers and show us Paypal gave you back your $14,000 plus legal fees.

pimpmaster9000 11-26-2020 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 22779084)
Ok, Tigran. Anyway, many many people have had Paypal pull shit on them with no reason, me included, only I have balls and walked. I don't leave any money on the table, I take the money and the table, then I sell the table for more money. Anyway I am just joking I like Serbia.

of course you are leaving money on the table...you are a webmaster and you think mainstream population know about stripe/ccbill or whatever processor you are using...well they do not...and some of them are hesitant to punch in their credit/debit card because they are scared or paranoid etc....but they know Paypal and they know they can pay you from a funded account or do an easy dispute...

shit I am adding apple pay and I am allergic to anything apple...I think it spreads homosexuality...but money is money :2 cents::2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

SekobA 11-27-2020 01:43 AM

My account got banned ..they are going for restrictions

elliso 11-27-2020 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by InfoGuy (Post 22779549)
You should cut your losses and walk away. But if you think I'm wrong, then go play "Double or Nothing" with Paypal's army of lawyers and show us Paypal gave you back your $14,000 plus legal fees.

I Have Gather over 8 vicitimes in Last 72 hours !
So my aim is gether 200 vicitim and file lawsuit case aganist them then we will see what would happene.

Paypal can t steal poeple s money freely or with those stupid policy, does not make sense !!

someone must stand for them,
i have one vicitime who lost 90.000 USD ! can you bear this amount of loss?

$tandaman 11-27-2020 07:28 AM

Another buddy of mine just got locked with $40k in the account, after successfully using for processing for last 4 years.. nothing adult or illegal.. digital subscription for software he sells.

I think a class action is quiet possible based on how often this occurs.

elliso 11-27-2020 10:39 AM

Warning ( ANYONE HAVE BEEN STOLEN BY PAYPAL ) PLEASE GET IN TOUCH


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