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redwhiteandblue 12-10-2020 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 22787056)
1 - its not a theory, those are facts, backed by test and studies - that is why it have been released

You said the vaccine works for 5 - 8 months. It didn't exist 8 months ago so how can any study show that it will work for that long?

You can't compare it to the flu vaccine because the flu virus mutates quicker than the sars-cov2 virus.

As far as science goes, we know that people who had the original sars virus in 2003 still have reactive t-cells to it 17 years later. So it may be the same with sars-cov2, but we won't know for sure until 17 years has passed. As long as the virus only mutates slowly, there's no reason why the vaccine will only give you protection for 8 months.

Ferus 12-10-2020 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 22787133)
Would you be willing to do the exact same thing that you are asking me to do?

I looked into it more and you are right. They said they don't know what the reactions were caused by yet.

But again, would you be willing to do what you asked me to? To NOT accept the easy answer when it comes to what you hear in the media? In this case, the efficacy of lock downs and masks?

I hope so because like you said, it's killing people, the government's response that is - and it's not stopping the virus from doing what it does.

I do - I honestly do. I know it dont matter here on GFY what I think, but I really do approach the world that way and are open to anything, except lies.

I listen to conspiracy nutters, because I believe it tells us what we as a people are afraid of and dont understand, and I honestly learn a lot about people from that.

Ferus 12-10-2020 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 22787136)
Suicide rates are through the roof. I cannot even imagine what I would do if someone told me i cannot work. I don’t even want to allow my thoughts to entertain such a scenario.

I have two family members living in retirement home, were my wife and I can visit 30 minutes once a week. I honest would rather die than live like that, but we respect the community rules

mopek1 12-10-2020 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 22787136)
Suicide rates are through the roof. I cannot even imagine what I would do if someone told me i cannot work. I don’t even want to allow my thoughts to entertain such a scenario.

Yeah they are. Also domestic violence calls are 30-50% higher. I have a neighbor who works at a women's shelter that showed me statistics for how many calls they got in the month of March, April, May. The chart rose exponentially compared with previous years.

People are also dying of untreated strokes, heart attacks, cancer etc.,

Africans are starting to starve. So far in Mali (I think) they have 10,000 kids a day lining up for the malnutrition clinics. According to NGOs on the ground there it's due to lock downs and not Corona. Many thousands will die in the upcoming year.

Then Tuberculosis will increase and kill an estimated 1.4 million more because they weren't able to access treatments during lock down and so they spread that disease.

The list can go on too ....

mopek1 12-10-2020 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 22787149)
I have two family members living in retirement home, were my wife and I can visit 30 minutes once a week. I honest would rather die than live like that, but we respect the community rules

A family member of mine is a nurse in a long term care home. She and other nurses are saying that residents are dying of sheer loneliness. We are killing them by trying to protect them.

EddyTheDog 12-10-2020 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 22787149)
...I honest would rather die than live like that...

What a coincidence...

Ferus 12-10-2020 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 22787169)
What a coincidence...

The German part of me feel the same way about you... the danish want to save you. Like the time I offered you money just to exercise for a week. You couldn't even complete that task.

Scott McD 12-11-2020 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 22787151)
Yeah they are. Also domestic violence calls are 30-50% higher. I have a neighbor who works at a women's shelter that showed me statistics for how many calls they got in the month of March, April, May. The chart rose exponentially compared with previous years.

People are also dying of untreated strokes, heart attacks, cancer etc.,

Africans are starting to starve. So far in Mali (I think) they have 10,000 kids a day lining up for the malnutrition clinics. According to NGOs on the ground there it's due to lock downs and not Corona. Many thousands will die in the upcoming year.

Then Tuberculosis will increase and kill an estimated 1.4 million more because they weren't able to access treatments during lock down and so they spread that disease.

The list can go on too ....

Depressing.

But yeah like has already been said, suicide numbers here have also went sky high, next year might not be any better. Perhaps the worst is still yet to come. Infact it very likely has...

Scott McD 12-11-2020 09:20 AM

I often wonder how the people of Belgium feel knowing the UK has been the first to do the vaccine rollout, since it has been produced and shipped from Belgium in the first place...

Tasty1 12-11-2020 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 22787792)
I often wonder how the people of Belgium feel knowing the UK has been the first to do the vaccine rollout, since it has been produced and shipped from Belgium in the first place...

Looks like 40% is happy there is another country to be a guinea pig.

Tasty1 12-11-2020 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Screwed Up (Post 22787000)
So how many years does this vaccine work for? How long does it protect you?

It works till Bill Gates want the vaccin to kill or sterilize you. Depending if they could use your skills or not.

This is how many End-Of-The-World-Movies start.

baddog 12-11-2020 05:49 PM

Wasting vaccine on 90 year olds. Fucking insane, unless they are really just guinea pigs.

newB 12-12-2020 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 22788059)
Wasting vaccine on 90 year olds. Fucking insane, unless they are really just guinea pigs.

I think that has more to do with sending the "this little old lady took it, but you're too scared?" message.

slapass 12-12-2020 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Pink24 (Post 22786170)
The first lady to get it was 91!
The average age expectancy in the UK for women is 79 years.
This woman already lived 12 years longer than most.

If it was me, I would be offering it to the 50-80 age bracker first. 90 Sounds too old.

The idea is to help the hospitals first. The older folks clog the system and add tot he death rate.

slapass 12-12-2020 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 22788059)
Wasting vaccine on 90 year olds. Fucking insane, unless they are really just guinea pigs.

It is a practical matter. The coronavirus is more of a flu for those under say 50 so ideally e start at the top and work our way down to clean up the hospitals,

baddog 12-12-2020 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by newB (Post 22788319)
I think that has more to do with sending the "this little old lady took it, but you're too scared?" message.

At 91, what did she have to lose?

klinton 12-13-2020 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 22787151)
Yeah they are. Also domestic violence calls are 30-50% higher. I have a neighbor who works at a women's shelter that showed me statistics for how many calls they got in the month of March, April, May. The chart rose exponentially compared with previous years.

People are also dying of untreated strokes, heart attacks, cancer etc.,

Africans are starting to starve. So far in Mali (I think) they have 10,000 kids a day lining up for the malnutrition clinics. According to NGOs on the ground there it's due to lock downs and not Corona. Many thousands will die in the upcoming year.

Then Tuberculosis will increase and kill an estimated 1.4 million more because they weren't able to access treatments during lock down and so they spread that disease.

The list can go on too ....

:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:
exactly.
this is the biggest hoax in xxi century, and I didn't expect that there are so many stupid people living on this planet.
That includes the governments
corona circus/ crisis - people did it to themselves.

eric_wahlberg 12-13-2020 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 22786561)
Some people having allergic reactions to it already.

Was always gonna happen i suppose...

I also read it. They are not recommending it for people with pre-allergy reactions.

Scott McD 12-14-2020 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by eric_wahlberg (Post 22788642)
I also read it. They are not recommending it for people with pre-allergy reactions.

"People allergic to penicillin."

Oh well that's me ruled out then :helpme

The Porn Nerd 12-14-2020 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 22788338)
At 91, what did she have to lose?

Cunt.

How about a family who loves her, friends who will miss her, a community that cherishes her...you know, all the things you yourself do not have going for you.

I would take a single day of her life over an hour of your miserable existence.

Repeat: cunt.

mopek1 12-14-2020 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22789196)
Cunt.

I'm not sure what BadDog meant, but when people generally say what he did, that she has nothing to lose, I think what they mean is that the risk associated with the vaccine for her is low compared to the risk of catching the virus at her age.

So she has "nothing to lose" because her life will be ending soon and she's taking a calculated gamble.

baddog 12-14-2020 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 22789200)
I'm not sure what BadDog meant, but when people generally say what he did, that she has nothing to lose, I think what they mean is that the risk associated with the vaccine for her is low compared to the risk of catching the virus at her age.

So she has "nothing to lose" because her life will be ending soon and she's taking a calculated gamble.

You are smarter than the nerd.


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