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01-04-2021 06:32 AM |
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Originally Posted by beavr
(Post 22798013)
It's really easy to estimate with with just a few companies making 70% of the market like:
Mindgeek with tubes, TrafficJunky and paysites
Streamate WL network + affiliated groups
Xvideos and the rest of the Group
Xhamster with Stripchat and TrafficStars
OnlyFans/MFC
Chaturbate
LiveJasmin
There are some few big local players in local markets as well, especially in Japan, UK, Germany, France.
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Indeed, you're applying a sound logic to this calculation.
I think you're missing a few big ones like Exoclick... and if we're talking about Adult business, don't forget DMM... yes it's an alien that's doing 99% of its business in Japan but DMM generates close to 2B$ every year.
If we're talking about "porn excluding Japan" we're somewhere between 2 and 3 billion dollars... then you can argue about including sex toys or not, dating or not... but however you see it, you'll never go above 5B$.
I often have to explain these calculations to noobs telling me "oh you're in the adultbiz? There's sooo muuuch money there!!!"
No no there's actually little money in our industry, any medium CRM SAAS generates a lot more money than the whole adult industry :pimp
What's interesting in our industry is that overall revenues are shared among a small community of professionals... meaning in other industries, you'd need a lot more people and expenses to generate 5B$
But that's also a major issue: if PH and other tubes were generating a lot more money, they'd probably have more influence when negociating with Visa and Mastercard. Right now despite being big in traffic, they're "small" in revenues :2 cents:
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