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amacontent 01-22-2021 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 22810844)
We love you, Joe. But I wouldn't expect fairness from Pornhub et al.
Ya know Captain Ive made good money from them this year. SO I will support them for now and hope things go back.

JSWENSON 01-24-2021 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by NALEM (Post 22810585)
When attending tradeshows and conferences, I meet thousands of people each year. We may have crossed paths, but I dont know who you are, and you still know JACK about me. I never took photos. The very existence of NALEM was never created for profit. For a period of time, it was mostly Buster's work that was posted to the site.

Sure its easy to judge, we do it every day. I have professional relationships with people in this very industry who were immediately effected by the theft of their content, only to see it published to sites like PornHub. I walked away from what later turned out to be hundreds of millions because a business partner of mine decided to compete with PH, and I wholely disagreed with the business model which relied on stolen content.

And PornHub ... the issue with V and MC temporarily pulling the processing was directly caused by PornHub's willful and intentional actions and not caused by the industry at large. Conservatives can always look for a reason to censor the porn industry, so why give them a reason? When content producers flagrantly post hardcore images to open, easily accessible, public sites, those very producers deserve what is coming to them. This industry has repeatedly failed to self regulate. Maybe its time that it does. Unfortunately it won't. Instead the industry at large will continue to cry that they are the victim here.
If you are so connected in this industry then your ass should know damn well why content on tubes isn't moderated without reports. Hint: Same reason YouTube content isn't.

It sucks that most here never adapted to a rapidly changing industry because they were too stupid to jump on the biggest porn boon in history but that's exactly what happened.

mikeet 01-24-2021 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 22811001)
I offer myself to be an example of that . . .
Self sacrifice is a bad way to go... just saying.

MaDalton 01-24-2021 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 22811029)
Please keep politics in the politics forum. The direct triggering cause of PornHub losing their processing was a fear-mongering piece by a progressive writer, published in The New York Times. So what conservatives attacking adult are you talking about?

I really don't care what someone's politics are, but one of the reasons I dislike political threads is that wildly inaccurate statements distract from the actual topic.
Your assessment of who wrote the article and who paid for it is wrong. But you said you don't like politics to be discussed and therefore I will leave it at that.

OneHungLo 01-24-2021 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 22811029)
.. a fear-mongering piece by a progressive writer, published in The New York Times.
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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 22811795)
Your assessment of who wrote the article and who paid for it is wrong.
You wish. She was spot on.

Porno Dan 02-02-2021 03:18 PM
PornHub really stepped to the plate and are paying producers for their views in January even though they had no ability to bill anyone.

I can never recall any time in the adult industry when a company has been so generous

Shoplifter 02-02-2021 03:26 PM
The Mindgeek guys have been subpoenaed to appear in Canadian Parliament on Friday.

I can't even guess how this is going to go.

NickB. 02-02-2021 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Porno Dan (Post 22816065)
PornHub really stepped to the plate and are paying producers for their views in January even though they had no ability to bill anyone.

I can never recall any time in the adult industry when a company has been so generous
Well lets not forget, they first stole all of it :helpme to grow, than offered the people they stole from to buy the traffic back on CPM
It's only now I dont see the scenes that costed 5000$+ didnt get 100,000,000views for free anymore after 13 years

I hope they get a nice little ass whooping in court :thumbsup

NALEM 02-02-2021 05:51 PM
^^ This ^^^^ except I hope that they receive a big ass whooping, huge public shaming so no one wants to touch them (Visa, MC, investors) and that their asses are handed back on a plate to them. I know it would be too much to ask to see them go to jail.

hdbuilder 02-02-2021 05:53 PM
Just read an article about one of the owner building his Mansion here in Montreal. Got a fine for cutting 200 old trees.

Think he will stop his built for a while now...

amacontent 02-02-2021 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by nalem (Post 22816115)
^^ this ^^^^ except i hope that they receive a big ass whooping, huge public shaming so no one wants to touch them (visa, mc, investors) and that their asses are handed back on a plate to them. I know it would be too much to ask to see them go to jail.

thank you for wishing us losing money that really need it in tough times.

King Mark 02-02-2021 08:37 PM
Every once in a while we learn here that you have to adapt or die.

bean-aid 02-02-2021 08:59 PM
Seems like the inevitable dog eat dog world.

babeterminal 02-03-2021 03:32 PM
what will you do? sell to me

Paul Markham 02-04-2021 03:15 AM
Porn tubes allow or did allow anyone to upload anything and anyone to watch. If you think governments and other mainstream companies this industry rely on will always sit back and allow. You deserve to lose.

InfoGuy 02-04-2021 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22810572)
Reminder: this attack on Pornhub and XVideos is an attack on the entire Adult Industry. I agree offending material should be deleted from tubes and not allowed to return via "user uploads". But realize this is just the opening battle in an upcoming war on porn that will affect us all (even those going to shows and photographing them).
No, these are attacks on the parasites that leech off the content owners. Don't be fooled. PornHub, XVideos, Xhamster, et al. are not our friends.

The Porn Nerd 02-04-2021 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by InfoGuy (Post 22817195)
No, these are attacks on the parasites that leech off the content owners. Don't be fooled. PornHub, XVideos, Xhamster, et al. are not our friends.
That may be true but I, personally, do not need to be friends with someone to make money with them. Show me a way, in today's world, where I can make more without tube affiliates than with them and we can talk. :)

amacontent 02-04-2021 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by InfoGuy (Post 22817195)
No, these are attacks on the parasites that leech off the content owners. Don't be fooled. PornHub, XVideos, Xhamster, et al. are not our friends.
Yet you promote FREE SPEECH COALITION. The biggest leeches ever created. Not sure how long you been around , but back in the day when there was the copyright issue pending about way to use video online , Free Speech Coalition ... now listen closely.... IF YOU PAID THEM...YOUD GET PROTECTION FROM THE LAWSUIT !!! They wanted $100 a month for me from that protection. So sit on that and watch it grow .

InfoGuy 02-04-2021 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Porno Dan (Post 22816065)
PornHub really stepped to the plate and are paying producers for their views in January even though they had no ability to bill anyone.

I can never recall any time in the adult industry when a company has been so generous
They are not being "generous". Since PornHub was forced to remove all of the non-verified UGC, the only content that they can use is from legitimate content owners. They are desperate to retain content owners, while they attempt to restore their merchant account. Without UGC and legitimate content, they will have to shut it all down.

amacontent 02-04-2021 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by InfoGuy (Post 22817328)
They are not being "generous". Since PornHub was forced to remove all of the non-verified UGC, the only content that they can use is from legitimate content owners. They are desperate to retain content owners, while they attempt to restore their merchant account. Without UGC and legitimate content, they will have to shut it all down.
Gee they will have to shut down and retire on their countless millions upon millions. Porn Hub did the right thing for guys like me and I will support them lil the end. They will retain me !

InfoGuy 02-04-2021 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 22817228)
Yet you promote FREE SPEECH COALITION. The biggest leeches ever created. Not sure how long you been around , but back in the day when there was the copyright issue pending about way to use video online , Free Speech Coalition ... now listen closely.... IF YOU PAID THEM...YOUD GET PROTECTION FROM THE LAWSUIT !!! They wanted $100 a month for me from that protection. So sit on that and watch it grow .
Like most industry groups, FSC members pay dues. Do you expect their lawyers to work pro bono to protect you?

amacontent 02-04-2021 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by InfoGuy (Post 22817333)
Like most industry groups, FSC members pay dues. Do you expect their lawyers to work pro bono to protect you?
It wasn't dues, it was extortion. $100 a month ALL OF A SUDDEN for dues. Please wake up and smell the scam.

NickB. 02-05-2021 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 22816153)
thank you for wishing us losing money that really need it in tough times.
I wish you nothing like it, but they took everything from me before and I had to adapt :thumbsup
So for me personally for them to suffer yes, for you to lose money no sir :thumbsup

amacontent 02-05-2021 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by NickB. (Post 22817656)
I wish you nothing like it, but they took everything from me before and I had to adapt :thumbsup
So for me personally for them to suffer yes, for you to lose money no sir :thumbsup
Good answer Nick.

Shoplifter 02-05-2021 12:27 PM
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Porno Dan 02-11-2021 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by InfoGuy (Post 22817328)
They are not being "generous". Since PornHub was forced to remove all of the non-verified UGC, the only content that they can use is from legitimate content owners. They are desperate to retain content owners, while they attempt to restore their merchant account. Without UGC and legitimate content, they will have to shut it all down.
Name one other company that has ever paid producers out of their pocket for content

InfoGuy 02-13-2021 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Porno Dan (Post 22820275)
Name one other company that has ever paid producers out of their pocket for content
Doesn't Gamma Entertainment pay you for your content?

Porno Dan 02-13-2021 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by InfoGuy (Post 22821483)
Doesn't Gamma Entertainment pay you for your content?
Gamma and I are partners on my website, I finance and own all the scenes and we have had a great ten-year business relationship

What Mindgeek is doing is unprecedented in that they are paying producers out of their pocket out.

I have been in the business for over 20 years and have never seen a company pay for content when they are not making any money

NALEM 02-13-2021 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Porno Dan (Post 22821512)
Gamma and I are partners on my website, I finance and own all the scenes and we have had a great ten-year business relationship

What Mindgeek is doing is unprecedented in that they are paying producers out of their pocket out.

I have been in the business for over 20 years and have never seen a company pay for content when they are not making any money
For over a decade, through the business model of offering alleged stolen content, at no direct cost to them, PornHub et.al. has made BILLIONS of dollars in advertising revenue. That is BILLIONS of dollars that normally would of flowed from the consumer to the rightful owners of the content.

As stated before, when pretty much everything created was stolen and hosted on their site, they had to find a way to get the victims (producers and content creators) to keep making fresh content, and that was by offering financial incentives.

PornHub is NOT paying revenue out of their pocket. They have always been earning and paying revenue OUT OF THE POCKETS of the CONTENT CREATORS.

SpicyM 02-13-2021 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Porno Dan (Post 22821512)
Gamma and I are partners on my website, I finance and own all the scenes and we have had a great ten-year business relationship

What Mindgeek is doing is unprecedented in that they are paying producers out of their pocket out.

I have been in the business for over 20 years and have never seen a company pay for content when they are not making any money
:1orglaugh I am surprised you are so naive and servile, times must be very tough... Do you really believe that PH pays producers for no reason? Producers that pump content to their site make them the biggest porn site on the net and they want to keep that position. They want their monopoly. They sure DO make money on that content.

Their payout is shit compared to the costs associated with shooting a quality scene. By uploading more and more full videos on their site you are helping your competitor and you are thankful that they pay a few bucks for those exclusive scenes? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

amacontent 02-13-2021 09:07 AM
Again I don't care what some photographer who makes money of of us real industry people thinks , I'm supporting porn hub right now.... and there is not ONE PERSON who if had the opportunity to make so called billions the way porn hub did , they would not do it.

NALEM 02-14-2021 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 22821587)
Again I don't care what some photographer who makes money of of us real industry people thinks , I'm supporting porn hub right now.... and there is not ONE PERSON who if had the opportunity to make so called billions the way porn hub did , they would not do it.
Joe, you are letting your arrogance and ignorance be on public display.

1. I have no reason to personally wish you financial harm. But there is nothing I can do for you. If you sleep with the dogs invested with fleas, the odds are you will get bitten by those fleas.

2. You don't read much, and know as much as you think you do. You still don't know what I have done in this industry. It just demonstrates that you are not so high up on the food chain.

While my comments may come across as insulting, it's not meant to. It's more in line with suggesting a reality check. At no time are the anti Porn Hub folks wanting to see your demise. What you should be doing is focused on alternative ways to drive traffic to your platforms.

Porno Dan 02-14-2021 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by NALEM (Post 22821546)
For over a decade, through the business model of offering alleged stolen content, at no direct cost to them, PornHub et.al. has made BILLIONS of dollars in advertising revenue. That is BILLIONS of dollars that normally would of flowed from the consumer to the rightful owners of the content.

As stated before, when pretty much everything created was stolen and hosted on their site, they had to find a way to get the victims (producers and content creators) to keep making fresh content, and that was by offering financial incentives.

PornHub is NOT paying revenue out of their pocket. They have always been earning and paying revenue OUT OF THE POCKETS of the CONTENT CREATORS.
It isn't 2008 PornHub, xVideos, xHamster, etc have been working with every producer in the industry myself included for over a decade.

PornHub Premium is not making revenue right now and they are paying producers for views, it might not much be it is something

I find it interesting that I don't see any people who produce content currently complaining about PornHub, xVideos or XHamster which are the sites that have partner progams

If you want to complain about someone talk about the sites that blatantly steal content and do not have a partner program like sxprn.com or xfantazy.com

Tasty1 02-14-2021 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 22821587)
Again I don't care what some photographer who makes money of of us real industry people thinks , I'm supporting porn hub right now.... and there is not ONE PERSON who if had the opportunity to make so called billions the way porn hub did , they would not do it.
I can name at least 4 big players who didn't want to support it or copy it as their businessmodel. When you search the forum there are many old topics from 10 - 15 years ago. Also because they know the people in the business and didn't want to (let) steal from friends. There where times when tube people visited adult industry incognito and sometimes with some muscles might it come to a fight. PS, not all tubes used stolen content. But looking back, maybe some think now they should have just copied the business model.

SpicyM 02-17-2021 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Porno Dan (Post 22822073)
It isn't 2008 PornHub, xVideos, xHamster, etc have been working with every producer in the industry myself included for over a decade.

PornHub Premium is not making revenue right now and they are paying producers for views, it might not much be it is something

I find it interesting that I don't see any people who produce content currently complaining about PornHub, xVideos or XHamster which are the sites that have partner progams

If you want to complain about someone talk about the sites that blatantly steal content and do not have a partner program like sxprn.com or xfantazy.com
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Helping your competition while also kissing their ass = the worst case of servility and lack of self-respect , so sad... :Oh crap

Basically... You are thankful that the biggest porn site in the world making millions of $$$ while being publicly accused of criminal activity pay you beer money for being one of the hundreds that keep them the biggest porn site in the world with their exclusive content uploads :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You should rename yourself to "Brown nosing Dan" :2 cents:

:throwup

Porno Dan 02-18-2021 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 22823507)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Helping your competition while also kissing their ass = the worst case of servility and lack of self-respect , so sad... :Oh crap

Basically... You are thankful that the biggest porn site in the world making millions of $$$ while being publicly accused of criminal activity pay you beer money for being one of the hundreds that keep them the biggest porn site in the world with their exclusive content uploads :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You should rename yourself to "Brown nosing Dan" :2 cents:

:throwup
Your lack of knowledge and understanding of tube sites and this industry, in general, is very apparent

EVERY major production company works with those tube sites that support those of us in the industry by offering revenue share and do their best to police their content

We should ALL continue to work with these companies and call out those sites like Motherless and the others I mentioned that blatantly steal from producers and do NOT care or monitor what type of content goes on their site

If this is what you call brown nose then you are truly dellusional

SpicyM 02-18-2021 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Porno Dan (Post 22823611)
EVERY major production company works with those tube sites that support those of us in the industry by offering revenue share
Yeah, we all know that the global porn monopoly offers revenue share (pocket change) for the sole purpose of supporting third party producers :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You almost made me cry with your naivety...

Ass-kissing overload. :1orglaugh


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