I don’t feel the state should have this power. I feel the same way about the death penalty

If that vaccine works so well and you get the vaccine why do you care if others get the vaccine?

Leftists are authoritarians

Your call to reason doesn't work in this day and age . . .

Roe V Wade makes this unconstitutional. Just fyi

YOU are the low IQ people. Get this, she also breathed air before she died. Stop breathing, idiot.

What? English, BALKY. Where do they grow you?

Probably the same people that wear a mask in the car by themselves.


:1orglaugh

The question is why, what got them to unconsciously get them that insecure, or maybe they are on automatic, maybe they are on quarantine but still decided to go out.
How about those who do not cover the nose? Their mask is old so it drops down and they don't care about buying another package..:helpme

How? That case has to do with abortion.

Medical right to privacy

If cnn told them to drive while sitting on a dildo and bounce at red lights it would happen. 100%.

These people are low iq collectivist thinkers. That’s that really

It is easy. 50 years ago you could not get married if you did not have a negative VDRL test ( call it VDRL passport) and if you, even unknowingly, infected anybody with Treponema Pallaidum, you went to jail and be isolated until you dropped dead. It was the " liberals" who fought and changed it, so fucking syphilis is again everywhere. The ONLY difference between now and then is, that you can CURE syphilis with antibiotics if treated early.

The difference here is, that the covidiots who spread Covid 19 are exempt form being punished even isolated ( unless they are on their death bed) and happily killing people everywhere claiming constitutional rights. The difference between syphilis and Covid is that we have NO CURE for Covid, we only have the vaccine.

so to wit:

If you can get a vaccine and refuse. Good! Nobody will isolate you or put you in jail, thanks to the fucking liberals, but the rest of us have the right not to be infected by these idiots. So, the antivaxers have every right to stay home and NOT be allowed to situations where they can "murder" others.

The irony of it all is, that it was the liberals way back who fought the conservatives. Conservatives wanted to lock up all the syphilitics ( not to mention HIV patients and the first SARS victims) and throw away the key. But now it is the conservatives who would let these murdering idiots into the wide population. But then again you cannot cure stupid !

Vaccine passports aren't about whether I think you should get a vaccine.

• They're about governments trying to reopen as quickly as possible without overwhelming the hospital system.
• They're about reducing the societal cost of lots of people getting sick (there's better stuff to spend that money on).
• They're about governments trying to protect vulnerable populations.
• They're about vaccinated people trying to avoid mostly non-lethal side effects if they get COVID (which they still can get).
• They're about assuring vaccinated people that it's safe to go out and be around other people (and spend money - which helps the economy)
• They're about reducing forgeries in testing and vaccination documentation.

It’s unconstitutional and will be challenged in courts & in person. Cucks will lose jay. Liberty will win.

It's funny but it's not. Having seen how people eat up whatever the news tells them scares me.

That's an assumption. I'm assuming that you using the term "covidiots" you are referring to people who don't wear masks and don't follow the rules etc.

The virus spreads with everyone, covidiot or not. The governor of Nevada scolded his population for spreading the virus and then he himself got it. He wore a mask and distanced from everyone and he still got it and doesn't know where it came from. He then felt awkward and wasn't so accusatory afterwards.

It's easy and popular to blame the spread on people not following the rules. I hear it all the time, "If people just did what they were supposed to do at the beginning we wouldn't be in this mess..." but that's not the case. Spread is mostly in care homes and centers and places like those that take the MOST precautions. Everyone else I know who caught it in my community has no clue where they got it from and they feel like they did something wrong which is just sad.

The virus will do it's thing and if you don't want to risk getting it then stay home but we must stop pretending we can control it because we can't.

• They never were in most cases (without the vaccine).
  
  
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  Originally Posted by S3X_Jay (Post 22843010) They're about reducing the societal cost of lots of people getting sick (there's better stuff to spend that money on).

  By locking down they have caused way more damage economically. It would have been better to not lock down if you want to look at it from an economical standpoint.
  
  
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  Originally Posted by S3X_Jay (Post 22843010) They're about governments trying to protect vulnerable populations.

  Those populations can get the vaccine if they want. We don't need to in order to protect them.
  
  
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  Originally Posted by S3X_Jay (Post 22843010) They're about vaccinated people trying to avoid mostly non-lethal side effects if they get COVID (which they still can get).

  Let people decide if we want that or not. It's not the government's place to force us to take a vaccine so we can be spared from side effects that may or may not occur.
  
  
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  Originally Posted by S3X_Jay (Post 22843010) They're about assuring vaccinated people that it's safe to go out and be around other people (and spend money - which helps the economy)

  So override the population's rights so that you can make others feel better? That is authoritarian and absolutely horrible.
  
  And btw, you don't need to worry about the economy. Open up and people will push each other out of the way to spend money and go to concerts etc... Look at the Texas Rangers home opener - sold out.
  
  
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  Originally Posted by S3X_Jay (Post 22843010) They're about reducing forgeries in testing and vaccination documentation.

?? So we have to force everyone to get vaccinated to make sure some people don't fake it?


Your reasons are very authoritarian and you would do well in a country like China. I'm baffled at how many Marxists/Collectivists live in the USA.

Colorado vaccination site shuts down after 11 'adverse reactions' to Johnson & Johnson jabs: Latest COVID-19 updates

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...rt/7126994002/

Jay is a marxist authoritarian collectivist. I can say that here at least.

I just find it funny that the group of people who loves to call others nazis demands you start carrying papers. Fuck these authoritarians. If you’re at risk for covid complications stay the fuck home. Let the healthy play outside and inside. Get netflix or something.

Punished? For the flu? Stay home bro. I’ll take my chances. Already had it and beat it like a red headed step child

Almost all are pronouned and/or poor

?? So the democrats are now the new nazi? Or do you mean that those AIDS patients murdered millions cause they didn't want to wear a condom? Or both?

I think all of you libturds are putting my life at risk by being a blindly obedient sheep. You should be arrested for attempted murder for the possible aneurysm I might have from trying to make sense of how people who are supposed to be smart lack such important critical thinking skills.

thanks to people like you, the govt thinks they do whatever they want... because sheep be sheeping

are the kids required to take vaccines that are still in 3rd stage trials?

I think everyone should be Free to make their own choice
and less rules is more Fun to Enjoy the Short stay on this Earth

Everyone is responsible for their own health and the only true health hazards the governments should be concerned about if they did care about the health of the people

was stopping toxicity in the environment, example pesticides are very damaging for living organisms, also radiation damages all living organisms

Eating toxic food ....your choice ...your freedom ( diabetes, cancer, etc)
Smoking toxic stuff---your choice ( globally hospitals are full because of this for decades)
Alcohol use .... your choice ( so many hospital bed full of this for decades )
radiation ...please don't mention 5g 4g wifi causing health problems that's crazy right?

So what improves the immune system
living happy healthy and free
being social

what hurts the immune system
toxicity
living in fear
social isolation


Those who know will know and those who don't will most probably bark their bark of ignorance

Their is no logic here its pure politics, there is no possibility that you can protect some one else's immune system by staying indoors / masks etc, if they make healthy life choices they will be protected by that
we will all die somewhere along the road when our immune system is finished
and nurses working with the elderly say its always some virus which finishes the most at the end
but now the virus story seems to be weaponized to spread the Marxism
create total govt control and dependence for the many

My hope is that some parts of the globe stay Free and Fun without Marxism
less paperwork, less rules, and no need for vaccine passports

We could call it "The Land of the Free"

||| You can't argue with people that are willfully ignorant because no
amount of logic or reason will change their opinions.

You can't argue with people that are scared because cowards
always believe they have the moral high ground.

You can't argue with people that believe in government and not God
because they think they're smarter than you.

So my advice is don't waste your breath.

I wouldn't get too attached to anyone who has drank the kool-aid:

https://i.imgur.com/CJQvj7Z.jpg

Lots of people are also lazy and they don't want to think on their own. :2 cents:

I would have do it if it were impossible to do without it. But I wouldn't do it just like that.

Liberals.... Conservatives... bla... bla... bla....

Fact is, we are ALL responsible for this situation and this virus. We talk about saving the planet while sending our manufacturing to china for cheap labor and no real regulation on pollution.

And once here in this pandemic... we once again put profit above humanity, lessen restrictions.

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.... or the one." ~Spock

Covid cases go up... restrict, cases go down, loosen and cases go up again. Simple logic yet we say fuck it... I'm tired of being trapped with my wife/husband and kids, I need out of this house and back to work! or I am too lazy to cook and want to go out to eat again...

How many times have we done this now? 4? Face it... you all fight over liberal and conservative when the real enemy and what controls this country are the corporations. All laws and regulations are made to benefit them most.

Let's not forget, politicians made corporations "people". Think about that when they are giving their political speeches and talking about "the people". See if what they are saying really applies to you or benefiting (or hurting depending on the side) the corporations.

Face it, we are ALL puppets no matter which side you are on or even if not on any side. Our strings are being pulled, your comments and feelings being manipulated through many sources.... You are being programmed daily and don't even know it. Think about it.

What I love the most is how people defend a party as if that party would do the same for them. Talk about sheep!!!! LMAO!

Except it's not simple logic.

Florida and Texas are open and doing better than other states that are heavily restricted like New York, Minn, Oregon etc...

People like me keep pointing out places like South Dakota, Sweden, Belarus and now TX and FL and no matter how many times it's put in front of people's faces they choose not to see it. The reason they choose to not to see it is because it breaks their logic apart.

Then someone like you comes along and says "simple logic" as if the rest of us are all dumb and can't see the obvious truth.

I challenge that it is you and people like you who hold that pro-lockdown opinion that don't want to see the simple logic. Then you look silly pointing out how others are not logical.

I'm pro common sense.... nothing more. And yes... most people are morons these days. We keep cutting the education budgets in this country.... teaching how to take tests and not how to think... keep them smart enough to run our machines. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You need to listen to the meaning of what is being said, not the words. The same words can have different meanings....

Face it, more people care about what Beyonce said yesterday than covid anyway.... Our values are soooooo fucked up!

I put antivaxers and those not obeying the rules into the same category = covidiots ! As to the Nevada Governor who got it, got it likely because he could not control the covidiots around him. Be that as it may, nothing is foolproof but it is ALL about probabilities and statistics. Too much to try to explain to stupid :2 cents: But maybe they'll get this: If a guy fucks another guy in the ass without a condom, he has statistically greater probability to catch HIV. As I have said..... statistics !

I have found this as well. You can talk until you are blue in the face but they won't listen, at least not on the same frequency.


Yep. It is a waste.

Yeah that's a fact. Jerry Springer gets more attention than National Geographic. It's sad.

Very much so! :(

https://twitter.com/theonlyrymac/status/1380165159495344129?s=21

It would make sense only if vaccines worked 100% life time.

Jerry Springer's show ended years ago. Probably couldn't manage to trip the meter in an environment where those types of interactions are not a traffic accident but normative.

This. Is the most sensible thing I have heard in months.

So it’s the covidiots vs the Branch Covidians

Here's what I don't get about stupid motherfuckers like you. If you are so confident in the safety and protection of a vaccine because Dr Billy Gates says so, which you are well within your right to do, then why do you care if I also get vaccinated?

You will be protected from covid due to the vaccine, right?

Your reading comprehension is remarkable. :1orglaugh

Go back and take another run at it.

Vaccines are not 100%

For decades we were made to believe that they were but now we're
effectively being told otherwise.

My wife and I are members of a local sex club. A vaccine passport is good to have and why not?

Holland is in lockdown and they extended the lockdown (bars and restaurants closed till april 28 at least). Doesn't look that that helped. What might have helped if the government didn't close 50% of Intensive Care units last 10 years cause it was so expensive. And still they vote for the guy.

Now the government want to keep bars and restaurants closed longer while the mayors of the big cities ask to open up terraces cause the parks are filled with people and groups starting party's.

What didn't work in Holland is that during last Mexican flu the expert that was on TV all the time warning about the deadly Mexican flu was filling his pockets by selling a vaccin to the government for millions, that where never used. And later results found, they hardly worked. They became the new TV stars and get aroused by all attention.

Precedent. Even if you think in that one case (or some cases) that something is a good idea it can be used for ill in the future.

For example this vaccine is likely safe but what's if they start mandating other vaccines that you are not sure about, or mandating other conditions for a person to be involved in American life.

It's just not a good thing to give governments that kind of power.

It's good to have TODAY, sure. You accepted the covid vaccine, you are happy, all is well, but what happens when the next vaccine rolls around? What if the covid one is ok but this next one isn't? Will you take it so you have your "health passport" updated? What about the one after that? And the one after that? Will you stop after a certain one? What if you find yourself getting sicker and sicker after each vaccination? All or some of these injections, of course, will have no liability for the producer as with the covid vaccine.

It either gets stopped now, or by supporting it you are basically accepting that you will be injected with whatever the powers that be deem necessary. You are putting full, absolute trust in your government, which IMHO is a huge mistake. Situations occur all the time where people cannot afford treatments or insurance. If you have insufficient money, the government will let you die - but they literally print money. If you do not have enough of their fake paper money, you are allowed to die. No one makes an exception for you. Pharma companies are the same, and allow 5 year olds to die because their parents cannot afford treatments. You don't have enough fake money, that is printed out of fucking thin air, your child dies. They have demonstrated fully that you can pay taxes, be a good person, be whatever, but they will let you, your wife, or your children die. That is not an entity I would put trust in to determine what will be injected into me.