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Sergio 04-09-2021 01:13 AM

I would have do it if it were impossible to do without it. But I wouldn't do it just like that.

Applebite Media 04-09-2021 05:22 AM

Liberals.... Conservatives... bla... bla... bla....

Fact is, we are ALL responsible for this situation and this virus. We talk about saving the planet while sending our manufacturing to china for cheap labor and no real regulation on pollution.

And once here in this pandemic... we once again put profit above humanity, lessen restrictions.

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.... or the one." ~Spock

Covid cases go up... restrict, cases go down, loosen and cases go up again. Simple logic yet we say fuck it... I'm tired of being trapped with my wife/husband and kids, I need out of this house and back to work! or I am too lazy to cook and want to go out to eat again...

How many times have we done this now? 4? Face it... you all fight over liberal and conservative when the real enemy and what controls this country are the corporations. All laws and regulations are made to benefit them most.

Let's not forget, politicians made corporations "people". Think about that when they are giving their political speeches and talking about "the people". See if what they are saying really applies to you or benefiting (or hurting depending on the side) the corporations.

Face it, we are ALL puppets no matter which side you are on or even if not on any side. Our strings are being pulled, your comments and feelings being manipulated through many sources.... You are being programmed daily and don't even know it. Think about it.

What I love the most is how people defend a party as if that party would do the same for them. Talk about sheep!!!! LMAO!

mopek1 04-09-2021 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Applebite Media (Post 22843576)
Covid cases go up... restrict, cases go down, loosen and cases go up again. Simple logic yet we say fuck it...

Except it's not simple logic.

Florida and Texas are open and doing better than other states that are heavily restricted like New York, Minn, Oregon etc...

People like me keep pointing out places like South Dakota, Sweden, Belarus and now TX and FL and no matter how many times it's put in front of people's faces they choose not to see it. The reason they choose to not to see it is because it breaks their logic apart.

Then someone like you comes along and says "simple logic" as if the rest of us are all dumb and can't see the obvious truth.

I challenge that it is you and people like you who hold that pro-lockdown opinion that don't want to see the simple logic. Then you look silly pointing out how others are not logical.

Applebite Media 04-09-2021 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 22843586)
Except it's not simple logic.

Florida and Texas are open and doing better than other states that are heavily restricted like New York, Minn, Oregon etc...

People like me keep pointing out places like South Dakota, Sweden, Belarus and now TX and FL and no matter how many times it's put in front of people's faces they choose not to see it. The reason they choose to not to see it is because it breaks their logic apart.

Then someone like you comes along and says "simple logic" as if the rest of us are all dumb and can't see the obvious truth.

I challenge that it is you and people like you who hold that pro-lockdown opinion that don't want to see the simple logic. Then you look silly pointing out how others are not logical.

I'm pro common sense.... nothing more. And yes... most people are morons these days. We keep cutting the education budgets in this country.... teaching how to take tests and not how to think... keep them smart enough to run our machines. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You need to listen to the meaning of what is being said, not the words. The same words can have different meanings....

Face it, more people care about what Beyonce said yesterday than covid anyway.... Our values are soooooo fucked up!

celandina 04-09-2021 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 22843025)
That's an assumption. I'm assuming that you using the term "covidiots" you are referring to people who don't wear masks and don't follow the rules etc.

The virus spreads with everyone, covidiot or not. The governor of Nevada scolded his population for spreading the virus and then he himself got it. He wore a mask and distanced from everyone and he still got it and doesn't know where it came from. He then felt awkward and wasn't so accusatory afterwards.

It's easy and popular to blame the spread on people not following the rules. I hear it all the time, "If people just did what they were supposed to do at the beginning we wouldn't be in this mess..." but that's not the case. Spread is mostly in care homes and centers and places like those that take the MOST precautions. Everyone else I know who caught it in my community has no clue where they got it from and they feel like they did something wrong which is just sad.

The virus will do it's thing and if you don't want to risk getting it then stay home but we must stop pretending we can control it because we can't.

I put antivaxers and those not obeying the rules into the same category = covidiots ! As to the Nevada Governor who got it, got it likely because he could not control the covidiots around him. Be that as it may, nothing is foolproof but it is ALL about probabilities and statistics. Too much to try to explain to stupid :2 cents: But maybe they'll get this: If a guy fucks another guy in the ass without a condom, he has statistically greater probability to catch HIV. As I have said..... statistics !

mopek1 04-09-2021 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hamiltonsteele (Post 22843444)
||| You can't argue with people that are willfully ignorant because no
amount of logic or reason will change their opinions.

I have found this as well. You can talk until you are blue in the face but they won't listen, at least not on the same frequency.


Quote:

Originally Posted by hamiltonsteele (Post 22843444)
So my advice is don't waste your breath.

Yep. It is a waste.

mopek1 04-09-2021 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Applebite Media (Post 22843591)
Face it, more people care about what Beyonce said yesterday than covid anyway.... Our values are soooooo fucked up!

Yeah that's a fact. Jerry Springer gets more attention than National Geographic. It's sad.

Applebite Media 04-09-2021 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 22843610)
Yeah that's a fact. Jerry Springer gets more attention than National Geographic. It's sad.

Very much so! :(

Major (Tom) 04-09-2021 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newB (Post 22842618)
It's mRNA - it uses the protein building mechanism of translation to build fragments of the proteins in the spike. As foreign proteins, these are what the vaccine is priming the recipients immune system to recognize.

In no way does it alter your DNA or genes.

But you know what can? Viruses. When they inject their DNA into the host cell, they can change the sequence upstream of an oncogene, turning it into a start codon.

FYI, I have multiple degrees in the life sciences, including a minor in Genetics and a lot of post-grad Genetics courses.


https://twitter.com/theonlyrymac/status/1380165159495344129?s=21

Sid70 04-09-2021 12:58 PM

It would make sense only if vaccines worked 100% life time.

AmeliaG 04-11-2021 03:27 PM

Jerry Springer's show ended years ago. Probably couldn't manage to trip the meter in an environment where those types of interactions are not a traffic accident but normative.

Pink24 04-11-2021 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 22843025)
That's an assumption. I'm assuming that you using the term "covidiots" you are referring to people who don't wear masks and don't follow the rules etc.

The virus spreads with everyone, covidiot or not. The governor of Nevada scolded his population for spreading the virus and then he himself got it. He wore a mask and distanced from everyone and he still got it and doesn't know where it came from. He then felt awkward and wasn't so accusatory afterwards.

It's easy and popular to blame the spread on people not following the rules. I hear it all the time, "If people just did what they were supposed to do at the beginning we wouldn't be in this mess..." but that's not the case. Spread is mostly in care homes and centers and places like those that take the MOST precautions. Everyone else I know who caught it in my community has no clue where they got it from and they feel like they did something wrong which is just sad.

The virus will do it's thing and if you don't want to risk getting it then stay home but we must stop pretending we can control it because we can't.

This. Is the most sensible thing I have heard in months.

Major (Tom) 04-11-2021 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pink24 (Post 22844660)
This. Is the most sensible thing I have heard in months.

So it’s the covidiots vs the Branch Covidians

RFremont 04-11-2021 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newB (Post 22842584)
You have no valid argument so you resort to fabrications and insinuations? Poor form, man.

Here's what I don't get about stupid motherfuckers like you. If you are so confident in the safety and protection of a vaccine because Dr Billy Gates says so, which you are well within your right to do, then why do you care if I also get vaccinated?

You will be protected from covid due to the vaccine, right?

newB 04-12-2021 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RFremont (Post 22844782)
Here's what I don't get about stupid motherfuckers like you. If you are so confident in the safety and protection of a vaccine because Dr Billy Gates says so, which you are well within your right to do, then why do you care if I also get vaccinated?

You will be protected from covid due to the vaccine, right?

Your reading comprehension is remarkable. :1orglaugh

Go back and take another run at it.

hamiltonsteele 04-12-2021 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RFremont (Post 22844782)
Here's what I don't get about stupid motherfuckers like you. If you are so confident in the safety and protection of a vaccine because Dr Billy Gates says so, which you are well within your right to do, then why do you care if I also get vaccinated?

You will be protected from covid due to the vaccine, right?

Vaccines are not 100%

For decades we were made to believe that they were but now we're
effectively being told otherwise.

ruff 04-12-2021 07:18 AM

My wife and I are members of a local sex club. A vaccine passport is good to have and why not?

Tasty1 04-12-2021 07:20 AM

Holland is in lockdown and they extended the lockdown (bars and restaurants closed till april 28 at least). Doesn't look that that helped. What might have helped if the government didn't close 50% of Intensive Care units last 10 years cause it was so expensive. And still they vote for the guy.

Now the government want to keep bars and restaurants closed longer while the mayors of the big cities ask to open up terraces cause the parks are filled with people and groups starting party's.

What didn't work in Holland is that during last Mexican flu the expert that was on TV all the time warning about the deadly Mexican flu was filling his pockets by selling a vaccin to the government for millions, that where never used. And later results found, they hardly worked. They became the new TV stars and get aroused by all attention.

mopek1 04-12-2021 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruff (Post 22844890)
My wife and I are members of a local sex club. A vaccine passport is good to have and why not?

Precedent. Even if you think in that one case (or some cases) that something is a good idea it can be used for ill in the future.

For example this vaccine is likely safe but what's if they start mandating other vaccines that you are not sure about, or mandating other conditions for a person to be involved in American life.

It's just not a good thing to give governments that kind of power.

k0nr4d 04-12-2021 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ruff (Post 22844890)
A vaccine passport is good to have and why not?

It's good to have TODAY, sure. You accepted the covid vaccine, you are happy, all is well, but what happens when the next vaccine rolls around? What if the covid one is ok but this next one isn't? Will you take it so you have your "health passport" updated? What about the one after that? And the one after that? Will you stop after a certain one? What if you find yourself getting sicker and sicker after each vaccination? All or some of these injections, of course, will have no liability for the producer as with the covid vaccine.

It either gets stopped now, or by supporting it you are basically accepting that you will be injected with whatever the powers that be deem necessary. You are putting full, absolute trust in your government, which IMHO is a huge mistake. Situations occur all the time where people cannot afford treatments or insurance. If you have insufficient money, the government will let you die - but they literally print money. If you do not have enough of their fake paper money, you are allowed to die. No one makes an exception for you. Pharma companies are the same, and allow 5 year olds to die because their parents cannot afford treatments. You don't have enough fake money, that is printed out of fucking thin air, your child dies. They have demonstrated fully that you can pay taxes, be a good person, be whatever, but they will let you, your wife, or your children die. That is not an entity I would put trust in to determine what will be injected into me.

nikki99 04-12-2021 08:47 AM

I just got my 2nd shot today


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