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Tjeezers 05-26-2021 01:05 AM

this thread is going nowhere and should go nowhere. Millennials!

Tjeezers 05-26-2021 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZTT (Post 22864897)
Nobody cares about 𝗉̶𝗂̶𝗋̶𝖺̶𝖼̶𝗒̶ anything until/unless it affects them. You can see in this very thread, someone publicizes an issue because it affects them, other people grind their own axes in reply, and the OP gives zero fucks and says they should post elsewhere.

Zero solidarity.

TL;DR: Nobody gives a fuck about anybody, because nobody gives a fuck about anybody.

Perfectly summed up

This thread can be closed!

LiLi 05-26-2021 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tjeezers (Post 22864930)
this thread is going nowhere and should go nowhere. Millennials!

You sound old, go invest in stocks or something.

Meanwhile for anyone interested in talking about issues other than Stripchat funding a site that doxxes models we can do so over here:

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-b...l#post22864932

seriouslee 05-26-2021 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustBiz (Post 22864849)
Before this guy set up this site (and the bunch of others he owns), ironically most of the camshow private shows used to turn up on forums, where they could be downloaded from file sharing sites by anyone.

This guy seemed to corner the market by getting cam addicts to share their recorded shows with a privacy option, where only people they friended who were members of the site could see the videos. A whole lot more content got shared among the addicts who obviously share there.

The admin only put videos shared as non-private visible to general surfers. And he also posts those on other sites he owns. Most seem to use same script he pays for. He obviously does that so he gets more videos shared from users than he otherwise would.

Security was not great on the coding and some guys put bypasses to his private video sharing on the net. A bunch of other pirates downloaded all the private videos he had there for a couple years and put them available free on their own sites.

Think he finally must have got the security holes patched some time back. Obviously, all those videos his users think they are sharing privately will sometime end up public. Site owner will probably monetise that option when/if all others are exhausted.

They have tried many ways to take him down over the past 3 or 4 years. Last one I remembered was going after his DNS. Even that admin seemed to think whoever did it had got him. Site was down for about a week or something before he found an alternative solution.

Hopefully, you can take out his last sponsors. Then he'll move back to spyware and selling traffic to people who don't care where it comes from. Lastly, if you ever get that far, he'll squeeze the last pips out of all those hundreds of thousands of private show videos.

Considering the amount of companies/studios/individuals he's pissed off - many in a little wild west countries - I'm kinda surprised noone's paid him a personal visit yet.

Your real problem is google et al. Doesn't matter how many million DMCAs you file, search most any camgirl name and you will find this site or one of its sisters on page 1 in web or image search. That's where he needs crushing most.

But what do google say?

Very similar case, even made it to some mainstream news sites is thothub.ru, now thothub.to

Takes one second to see it's 100% purely pirated content but I see banners from bongacams, a popup from Stripchat and a whitelabel from Flirt4free

In their 2257 section they even state that for questions concerning the age of the models, you should just contact the ORIGINAL site where the content is coming from. I think camwhores . tv does the same.

k0nr4d 05-26-2021 03:25 AM

I'm sure your lawyer could get the beneficiary info from affiliate programs via a court order if they really tried

JustBiz 05-26-2021 05:32 AM

Hi Lili,
I read your detailed reply ... can see you're still passionate about the issue and naturally have your own first-hand experiences that you think webmasters/affiliates don't quite understand.

I can assure you many of the people who answer you know the cam business inside and out. There are names on this thread involved with studios who see every single aspect of the spenders on their 'girls'. There are programs like cambuilder f.ex which let even basic affiliates see exactly which models their members spend on ... and they get to learn there are whales who spend on only one ot two girls and there are whales which spend on hundreds of girls.

Just personally, I've had a guy who has spent almost half a million bucks on one lesser pushed sponsor over several years. The guy could have spent that money on a ton of high-class escorts and had real sex. I'm sure he's aware of that too. He didn't ... cos he likes the cam experience. Or maybe, he's so flush, he did both.

But anyway, I digress ... Guess I'm trying to say, try to avoid getting in to a battle here over who knows more about the cam business from what perspective. Many webmasters will also *cough* have had personal relationship/s with girls who cam which vicariously let them learn about your at the cliff face experiences too.

Assume that both sides - you and us - know a little bit about what butters our bread and there's more chance for you to get ideas and cooperation. There are a lot of people here with a lot of skills in a lot of fields, not just affiliate marketing. Some will have ideas that might help.. ;)

JustBiz 05-26-2021 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by seriouslee (Post 22864936)
Very similar case, even made it to some mainstream news sites is thothub.ru, now thothub.to

Takes one second to see it's 100% purely pirated content but I see banners from bongacams, a popup from Stripchat and a whitelabel from Flirt4free

In their 2257 section they even state that for questions concerning the age of the models, you should just contact the ORIGINAL site where the content is coming from. I think camwhores . tv does the same.

Yes, the adult biz historically - for understandable reasons - tends to keep its head down and not want to attract media attention. That road leads only to trouble etc.

But the times have changed quite a bit - at least in the serious press. The coverage of the whole onlyfans story was pretty even-handed recently and dealt with ostensibly as a business story.

Porn is a legal, big business which still accounts for a major slice of internet traffic. Why leviathans like google choose to ignore pirate sites blasted with takedown notices is a legitimate question ... IF the business reporter is aware it's an issue. I wager good money they don't. I also wager good money most won't care what google does with their adult SERPs, one way or the other.

But 'Why does google support internet porn pirates?' is a juicy headline some journo will be happy to wet his whistle with. What's google's answer gonna be? We only delist the little sites which get takedown notices.

Oh, what about the huge sites that get thousands of takedown notices a week?

Ah well ... we let them take page one of our results forever and a day.

Oh, why's that? What happened to 'Do no evil'? Because it's the adult business it doesn't count?

We're just giving our customers what they want ...

What's that?

Free porn.

You mean, 'stolen' porn?

Um ...

This is legal business. Even if it changes nothing, those sort of questions merit some sort of answer. And it'd be interesting to see how the tech giants justify something I don't think they would allow in mainstream.

CaptainHowdy 05-26-2021 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZTT (Post 22864897)
TL;DR: Nobody gives a fuck about anybody, because nobody gives a fuck about anybody.

That pretty much sums it all up . . .

gtsix 05-26-2021 11:37 AM

:1orglaugh :pimp


LiLi 05-28-2021 12:17 PM

Looks like Stripchat gave him the boot. Now he can Go Fuck Himself :)

JesseQuinn 05-28-2021 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiLi (Post 22865973)
Stripchat gave him the boot

:thumbsup

edit: fiddy pirates tossed overboard

JustBiz 05-28-2021 02:11 PM

I saw that. Let's see if he pushes one of the lesser-know cam sponsors left- or reverts to spyware or selling traffic to people who aren't choosy where it comes from.

LiLi 05-29-2021 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustBiz (Post 22866012)
I saw that. Let's see if he pushes one of the lesser-know cam sponsors left- or reverts to spyware or selling traffic to people who aren't choosy where it comes from.

This is one of the stupidest people I have ever came across so I am confident no matter what he chooses to do we will knock it down. We have the patience and the means to do so.

gar 05-29-2021 03:36 AM

LiLi you've won this round.

JustBiz 05-29-2021 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiLi (Post 22866198)
This is one of the stupidest people I have ever came across so I am confident no matter what he chooses to do we will knock it down. We have the patience and the means to do so.

He is not the brightest, Lili. But he is wily.

Knocking him down with sponsors who want to run programs seen as legitimate is the easier fight. Other alternatives he can move to are a lot harder. But am sure you know that.

One thing though, he needs to monetize. His server bills are major.

CaptainHowdy 05-29-2021 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gar (Post 22866214)
LiLi you've won this round.

https://i.imgur.com/w51iVAp.jpg

fastball 05-30-2021 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiLi (Post 22864933)
You sound old, go invest in stocks or something.

Meanwhile for anyone interested in talking about issues other than Stripchat funding a site that doxxes models we can do so over here:

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-b...l#post22864932

Never insult someone with what you hope to be someday, kid.

INever 05-30-2021 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustBiz (Post 22864971)
Yes, the adult biz historically - for understandable reasons - tends to keep its head down and not want to attract media attention. That road leads only to trouble etc.

But the times have changed quite a bit - at least in the serious press. The coverage of the whole onlyfans story was pretty even-handed recently and dealt with ostensibly as a business story.

Porn is a legal, big business which still accounts for a major slice of internet traffic. Why leviathans like google choose to ignore pirate sites blasted with takedown notices is a legitimate question ... IF the business reporter is aware it's an issue. I wager good money they don't. I also wager good money most won't care what google does with their adult SERPs, one way or the other.

But 'Why does google support internet porn pirates?' is a juicy headline some journo will be happy to wet his whistle with. What's google's answer gonna be? We only delist the little sites which get takedown notices.

Oh, what about the huge sites that get thousands of takedown notices a week?

Ah well ... we let them take page one of our results forever and a day.

Oh, why's that? What happened to 'Do no evil'? Because it's the adult business it doesn't count?

We're just giving our customers what they want ...

What's that?

Free porn.

You mean, 'stolen' porn?

Um ...

This is legal business. Even if it changes nothing, those sort of questions merit some sort of answer. And it'd be interesting to see how the tech giants justify something I don't think they would allow in mainstream.

The payment processors of mastercard and visa on file lockers. Says it all.


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