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RycEric 06-20-2021 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by trevesty (Post 22876920)
You realize that 2nd link isn't even law and was never passed or anything, right?

It's the case law that's relevant. Sorry to confuse you :2 cents:

trevesty 06-20-2021 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 22876927)
It's the case law that's relevant. Sorry to confuse you :2 cents:

I wasn't confused. That's the text from someone lobbying for that amendment to be added speaking to the Judiciary Committee. In other words, it's very cherry picked by a lobbyist being paid to sway an opinion. The amendment never made it out of the Judiciary Committee (https://www.congress.gov/bill/108th-...2560+%28108%29)

If those cherry picked cases were relevant, then there's a lot of big, US based sites with very competent counsel who'd be operating very differently. :2 cents:

The Porn Nerd 06-20-2021 04:16 PM

To be clear (in case anyone was wondering) I am NOT The Porn DUDE. I am The Porn NERD and therefore have nothing to do with this controversy.

However I will add my :2 cents::

Fucking some "dude" in a suit and giant head costume is bizarre, weird and disturbing to me. It looks like that strange cosplay/fuck some chicks do. You know, screwing a giant panda bear or whatever. How can anyone jack off to that distracting shit? If I was the girl doing the fucking I'd have to stop filming from laughing my ass off. Just sayin'. :helpme

RycEric 06-20-2021 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by trevesty (Post 22876929)
I wasn't confused. That's the text from someone lobbying for that amendment to be added speaking to the Judiciary Committee. In other words, it's very cherry picked by a lobbyist being paid to sway an opinion. The amendment never made it out of the Judiciary Committee (https://www.congress.gov/bill/108th-...2560+%28108%29)

If those cherry picked cases were relevant, then there's a lot of big, US based sites with very competent counsel who'd be operating very differently. :2 cents:

Fixed..
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/04-480.ZS.html
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/464/417
"One who knowingly induces, causes or materially contributes to copyright infringement, by another but who has not committed or participated in the infringing acts him or herself, may be held liable as a contributory infringer if he or she had knowledge, or reason to know, of the infringement. See, e.g., Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios Inc. v. Grokster, Ltd., 545 U.S. 913 (2005); Sony Corp. v. Universal City Studios, Inc., 464 U.S. 417 (1984)."

trevesty 06-20-2021 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22876931)
To be clear (in case anyone was wondering) I am NOT The Porn DUDE. I am The Porn NERD and therefore have nothing to do with this controversy.

However I will add my :2 cents::

Fucking some "dude" in a suit and giant head costume is bizarre, weird and disturbing to me. It looks like that strange cosplay/fuck some chicks do. You know, screwing a giant panda bear or whatever. How can anyone jack off to that distracting shit? If I was the girl doing the fucking I'd have to stop filming from laughing my ass off. Just sayin'. :helpme

I agree. :1orglaugh

I respect the gimmick, though.

trevesty 06-20-2021 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 22876933)
Fixed..
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/04-480.ZS.html
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/464/417
"One who knowingly induces, causes or materially contributes to copyright infringement, by another but who has not committed or participated in the infringing acts him or herself, may be held liable as a contributory infringer if he or she had knowledge, or reason to know, of the infringement. See, e.g., Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios Inc. v. Grokster, Ltd., 545 U.S. 913 (2005); Sony Corp. v. Universal City Studios, Inc., 464 U.S. 417 (1984)."

Awesome. I don't really care or have a dog in the fight - I was just pointing out that you simply linked to what amounts to nothing more than text from a lobbyist originally. You seem to be just wanting to poke at ThePornDude. Enjoy. :thumbsup

ianmoone332000 06-20-2021 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by trevesty (Post 22876926)
I know for a fact that the owner doesn't live in the US and he's most certainly not named "Sammy", nor are they interested in being their own stunt cock. :thumbsup


Fair enough :thumbsup

RycEric 06-20-2021 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by trevesty (Post 22876936)
Awesome. I don't really care or have a dog in the fight - I was just pointing out that you simply linked to what amounts to nothing more than text from a lobbyist originally. You seem to be just wanting to poke at ThePornDude. Enjoy. :thumbsup

I'm just watching for more information to surface about people involved :2 cents:

CaptainHowdy 06-20-2021 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 22876925)
You know The Porn Dude?

Pika Poka (The Porn Dude) is an asshole but I don't think he is an unlawful asshole . . .

The Porn Nerd 06-20-2021 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by trevesty (Post 22876936)
You seem to be just wanting to poke at ThePornDude. Enjoy. :thumbsup

Interesting choice of words. Isn't that how this whole thing started? :1orglaugh

trevesty 06-20-2021 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22876968)
Interesting choice of words. Isn't that how this whole thing started? :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

RycEric 06-20-2021 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 22876956)
Pika Poka (The Porn Dude) is an asshole but I don't think he is an unlawful asshole . . .

This is golden...and not the thread subject. Thx for this.

SBJ 06-20-2021 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by trevesty (Post 22876926)
I know for a fact that the owner doesn't live in the US and he's most certainly not named "Sammy", nor are they interested in being their own stunt cock. :thumbsup

I sorta believe this and was going to post that to her but I feel like she believes someone that lives in an apartment owns all this :1orglaugh

PornDude 06-21-2021 03:21 AM

Guys, do you know every story has 2 sides?

We all tell the version that makes us look good, and it seems Aliya is no different.

And we kept the version told by our producer for ourselves (recorded), so she can send us a message how she won on social media.

Why would the producer Sammy claim he is the owner of PornDude? Now I am surprised.

Geoffrey even had (attempted to have) a WhatsApp call with Aliya on her request, after he was informed about Aliya's accusations on her Twitter account to get her full story, before having a meeting with Sammy.

Once on the call, Aliya started the conversation saying that she would be capturing the phone call to post on her Twitter account, which he gave permission for.

Aliya claimed Geoffrey to be Sammy, saying he had the worst accent she had ever heard and was using a voice transformer. She demanded that Geoffrey would show his face, but that was denied for obvious reasons.

Aliya continued to insult him, was unable to have a rational conversation, and gave no information about what had happened on set with Sammy.

Why doesn't she publish that call? Why doesn't she take legal actions against any party for whatever reason?

SBJ 06-21-2021 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by PornDude (Post 22877211)
Why would the producer Sammy claim he is the owner of PornDude? Now I am surprised.

I mean he does say at 7:18 "this is my.. this is how we got started"
https://d1zupexvbp469x.cloudfront.net/Aliya.mp4

8:34 what do you think of my island and goes on to say that's my site in the next 3 sentences. I can see where he was misleding her.

I get there are 2 sides to the story but I really do think Sammy treated her like shit and misled her to think he owned the site just from what he said on this video. I don't deny she was most likely out of control on the call with the owner cause she is naive and really believes Sammy is the owner :1orglaugh

Brian mike 06-21-2021 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by PornDude (Post 22877211)
Why doesn't she take legal actions against any party for whatever reason?

Because she's broke :winkwink: like all the others and lawyers need retaining fee's before anything :1orglaugh ?

blackmonsters 06-21-2021 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by PornDude (Post 22877211)
Why doesn't she take legal actions against any party for whatever reason?

Your producer already settled the case by paying the negotiated fees.

:2 cents:

It would take a legal scholar to decide if turning the camera off created a issue other than fees.

:warning

blackmonsters 06-21-2021 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22877233)
Because she's broke :winkwink: like all the others and lawyers need retaining fee's before anything :1orglaugh ?

:error

Pro bono.


:2 cents:

Tjeezers 06-21-2021 05:44 AM

I thought in this industry we are in some sort of way connected to each other and obviously help each other. And yet, this whole discussion is full of comments that really show that some people just do not respect the industry women or deserve to work with them in naked settings. The people on the sideline needed to rant and vent, well, here we are. Public to the world we show that we are not capable of acting like adults.

Thank those commentators for making us look incredibly stupid.

blackmonsters 06-21-2021 05:48 AM

100 fucks with their camera off.



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Originally Posted by Tjeezers (Post 22877238)
Thank those commentators for making us look incredibly stupid.

You typed that in as if this was a new thing.

:1orglaugh

MakeMeGrrrrowl 06-21-2021 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by PornDude (Post 22877211)
Guys, do you know every story has 2 sides?

We all tell the version that makes us look good, and it seems Aliya is no different.

And we kept the version told by our producer for ourselves (recorded), so she can send us a message how she won on social media.

Why would the producer Sammy claim he is the owner of PornDude? Now I am surprised.

Geoffrey even had (attempted to have) a WhatsApp call with Aliya on her request, after he was informed about Aliya's accusations on her Twitter account to get her full story, before having a meeting with Sammy.

Once on the call, Aliya started the conversation saying that she would be capturing the phone call to post on her Twitter account, which he gave permission for.

Aliya claimed Geoffrey to be Sammy, saying he had the worst accent she had ever heard and was using a voice transformer. She demanded that Geoffrey would show his face, but that was denied for obvious reasons.

Aliya continued to insult him, was unable to have a rational conversation, and gave no information about what had happened on set with Sammy.

Why doesn't she publish that call? Why doesn't she take legal actions against any party for whatever reason?

You all sound like a bunch of shady fucks. Like, really disgusting.

MakeMeGrrrrowl 06-21-2021 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SBJ (Post 22877230)
I mean he does say at 7:18 "this is my.. this is how we got started"
https://d1zupexvbp469x.cloudfront.net/Aliya.mp4

8:34 what do you think of my island and goes on to say that's my site in the next 3 sentences. I can see where he was misleding her.

I get there are 2 sides to the story but I really do think Sammy treated her like shit and misled her to think he owned the site just from what he said on this video. I don't deny she was most likely out of control on the call with the owner cause she is naive and really believes Sammy is the owner :1orglaugh

A young girl getting duped by shady fucks in the adult industry and THEN trying to make it seem as if she's crazy and has no idea who is who or what is what....IMAGINE THAT!

How long do we think it will be before she kills herself?

sarettah 06-21-2021 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by PornDude (Post 22877211)
Why would the producer Sammy claim he is the owner of PornDude? Now I am surprised.

And yet he clearly does, right at about the 8 minute mark in the vid.

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Why doesn't she take legal actions against any party for whatever reason?
It has only been 4 days and 2 of those were the weekend.

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sarettah 06-21-2021 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl (Post 22877277)
A young girl getting duped by shady fucks in the adult industry and THEN trying to make it seem as if she's crazy and has no idea who is who or what is what....IMAGINE THAT!

How long do we think it will be before she kills herself?


I hope that it does not end up that way but it appears that the gaslighting has clearly begun.

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MaDalton 06-21-2021 07:45 AM

is this the right moment to point out the GDP guy got sentenced to 17 years?

k0nr4d 06-21-2021 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SBJ (Post 22877230)
8:34 what do you think of my island and goes on to say that's my site in the next 3 sentences. I can see where he was misleding her.

Playing devil's advocate here - honestly my guess is the truth is somewhere between the two claims but ultimately I don't give a shit... but maybe he was trying to stay in character since he's fucking her as the mascot and the mascot "is the owner of the site"?

PornDude 06-21-2021 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SBJ (Post 22877230)
I mean he does say at 7:18 "this is my.. this is how we got started"
https://d1zupexvbp469x.cloudfront.net/Aliya.mp4

8:34 what do you think of my island and goes on to say that's my site in the next 3 sentences. I can see where he was misleding her.

I get there are 2 sides to the story but I really do think Sammy treated her like shit and misled her to think he owned the site just from what he said on this video. I don't deny she was most likely out of control on the call with the owner cause she is naive and really believes Sammy is the owner :1orglaugh

I understand your point.

But on the video he is playing the PornDude.com character, when he says: "my site".

He is a real person, and he didn't pick her up, wearing a giant mask.

It's not like his identity was hidden.

He is not wearing a costume/mask when the cam is not pointed on his face, the girl can clearly see him.

It's not like girls mistakenly end on the set without known where their videos will be published.

plsureking 06-21-2021 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Tjeezers (Post 22877238)
I thought in this industry we are in some sort of way connected to each other and obviously help each other. And yet, this whole discussion is full of comments that really show that some people just do not respect the industry women or deserve to work with them in naked settings. The people on the sideline needed to rant and vent, well, here we are. Public to the world we show that we are not capable of acting like adults.

Thank those commentators for making us look incredibly stupid.

most people in the adult industry came here to avoid the "adult" or mainstream/suits world. you have been around long enough to know that. just because you have a vision of the industry doesn't make it true. maybe it was a community when the industry was small, but now you have OF and cam models in the industry - and all the suitcase pimps tagging along.

its a large "industry" now and generates more revenue than ever before. the kumbaya moment is long gone.

#

ianmoone332000 06-21-2021 08:53 AM

Another girl:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_x_5BWLpHg

https://twitter.com/EmilyRight3

PornDude 06-21-2021 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 22877343)

Emily and Aliya been talking about it on Twitter, since the day one.

Here you can see her unfinished casting:

https://porndudecasting.com/casting/6/emily-right/
https://spankbang.com/5cahz/video/se...h+a+bad+manner

I don't see any reason why would she say anything good about her experience.

1. if his apartment was dirty, why didn't she leave?
2. if she didn't like the man on any level, why even start the shooting, when it's obvious you prefer not to.

I will make it clear, again:

If something else happened against the law to her or any other model, I advise them to seek an attorney and take legal actions.

ianmoone332000 06-21-2021 09:06 AM

Il give them a watch. If your not Sammy, just release a video of you talking about things. Nip it in the bud

PornDude 06-21-2021 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 22877356)
Il give them a watch. If your not Sammy, just release a video of you talking about things. Nip it in the bud

I am only replying to you because you made a valid point.

Everything else was already written here:
https://porndudecasting.com/statement-6-20-2021.html

ianmoone332000 06-21-2021 09:19 AM

Yeah i read it. Just cause the girls have been researching you online and are convinced you are this Sammy guy. Me personally, id just show you are not the same person by video or something. Just my opinion though

PornDude 06-21-2021 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 22877368)
Yeah i read it. Just cause the girls have been researching you online and are convinced you are this Sammy guy. Me personally, id just show you are not the same person by video or something. Just my opinion though

I got your point. People here on GFY know that I am not a Sammy guy.

Let me state some facts:
- on PornDude we have reviewed over 3800 porn sites
- we maintain relationship with pretty much all our partners
- we have it translated to over 27 languages
- we have a blog
- we run PornDude.com, MyGaySites.com, BestPornGames.com, PornDudeCasting.com and
- we hire more than 20 programmers (some know us, they are on this GFY board)
- we have 3 other mainstream sites with Alexa rank lower than 50.000 and many more, not so popular ones
- altogether, our team is bigger than 40 guys

Do you think all projects can be run by a single guy who will relocate himself from EU to US to shoot porn?

I am not even a Geoffrey guy, but I still post as PornDude on GFY, people on Discord adult group know me.

There is nothing to hide.

This is what I am saying, if something happened against the law, take actions. But we always paid our contractor.

sarettah 06-21-2021 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by PornDude (Post 22877211)
Aliya claimed Geoffrey to be Sammy, saying he had the worst accent she had ever heard and was using a voice transformer. She demanded that Geoffrey would show his face, but that was denied for obvious reasons.


I am not sure in there what Geoffrey's "obvious reasons" are other than he is trying to maintain some anonymity.

Geoffrey's refusal to show her his face during the call probably supports, in her view, the belief that he and Sammy are indeed one and the same.

Several times you have stated that if something happened "against the law" to take actions. It does not necessarily have to be illegal to be actionable in the civil courts. So, while the girls may not have something that they can call the police about, they may have something that they can call lawyers about.

Just sayin...

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PornDude 06-21-2021 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22877386)
I am not sure in there what Geoffrey's "obvious reasons" are other than he is trying to maintain some anonymity.

Geoffrey's refusal to show her his face during the call probably supports, in her view, the belief that he and Sammy are indeed one and the same.

Several times you have stated that if something happened "against the law" to take actions. It does not necessarily have to be illegal to be actionable in the civil courts. So, while the girls may not have something that they can call the police about, they may have something that they can call lawyers about.

Just sayin...

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Would you show a face when someone on the other side is calling you names?

He gave her permission to publish this recording, what else can he do? Maybe ask her to publish it.

She called a WhatsApp number with a code country of Belgium.

sarettah 06-21-2021 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by PornDude (Post 22877402)
Would you show a face when someone on the other side is calling you names?

He gave her permission to publish this recording, what else can he do? Maybe ask her to publish it.

She called a WhatsApp number with a code country of Belgium.

I was just giving you my observations.

What does being called names have to do with showing your face? Geoffrey showing his face would have shown her that he was not Sammy. That might have stopped the name calling right there.

I don't know why she does not publish it, could be as simple as the recording screwed up on her or she said she was going to record it and didn't actually do it. I don't know how technically literate she is so I could not say anything on that and really either can you.

Calls can be re-routed however you want them to be, just like proxy servers. So, I can make it look like I am pretty much anywhere in the world if I want to.

I hate to say this but it is starting to appear, in the words of Shakespeare, that you "Doth protest too much".

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fastball 06-21-2021 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22877420)
I was just giving you my observations.

What does being called names have to do with showing your face? Geoffrey showing his face would have shown her that he was not Sammy. That might have stopped the name calling right there.

I don't know why she does not publish it, could be as simple as the recording screwed up on her or she said she was going to record it and didn't actually do it. I don't know how technically literate she is so I could not say anything on that and really either can you.

Calls can be re-routed however you want them to be, just like proxy servers. So, I can make it look like I am pretty much anywhere in the world if I want to.

I hate to say this but it is starting to appear, in the words of Shakespeare, that you "Doth protest too much".

.

"Something is rotten in the state of Denmark"

PornDude 06-21-2021 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22877420)
I was just giving you my observations.

What does being called names have to do with showing your face? Geoffrey showing his face would have shown her that he was not Sammy. That might have stopped the name calling right there.

I don't know why she does not publish it, could be as simple as the recording screwed up on her or she said she was going to record it and didn't actually do it. I don't know how technically literate she is so I could not say anything on that and really either can you.

Calls can be re-routed however you want them to be, just like proxy servers. So, I can make it look like I am pretty much anywhere in the world if I want to.

I hate to say this but it is starting to appear, in the words of Shakespeare, that you "Doth protest too much".

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I will say again: Sammy is a producer (one man band), who was responsible for the shooting & everything related to it and we were buying his licensed content.

This was not a dilemma as we know who plays what role and what says in the contract.

Showing Geoffrey's face is totally irrelevant to her original claims.

Kelli58 06-21-2021 10:59 AM

This is why a performer consent checklist has become a MUST HAVE for all shoots.

If you don't have one for yourself yet, you can get a template at

https://adultindustrycertified.com/w...merconsent.pdf


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