"May god save" lol, you'd rather believe in an imaginary friend in the sky than in doctors?

LOL LOL LOL I mean how bad are schools in Alberta?

listen dude, I'm fine with all the conspiracy crap, I honestly don't give a shit.
As long as you pay for you OWN fucking bills if you end up in hospital.

Also, all this doesn't make us want to work with you.

GFY has become a cesspool for Trump/gun/god/noscience morons.

Florida is in another country. Do keep up.

Then why vaccine passports?

As long as people take the vaccines that work, who cares if an unvaccinated is right next to you?

Oh no :1orglaugh . Like i care LOL . Are you real right now ? I think you hurt my feeling now lol.

Do you have something else to do right now ? Like book your booster shot. Hit me up at your #6 Jab in less than 24 Months :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

#FuckingRobotBrainwashed

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They can't think that deep anymore, they've been Jabified :1orglaugh , Just take the jabs that's all they can say :upsidedow

I'm not a Boomer so Fail. LOL Nor am I fat, out of shape of have any underlying health conditions (other than being crazy for trying to discuss logic with illogical people).

The average of ALL Covid-19 deaths worldwide is 51. Another epic Fail.
People in their teens, twenties, thirties, forties and above have died from Covid.

Anyway Sweden now regrets its' "let everybody get infected" policy. So yet another Fail.

Just get the jab, stay away from other people, and by Springtime this will all go away. if not, then 2022 will be even worse than 2020-21.

BioNtech CEO "the vaccines don't work"
https://www.euronews.com/next/2021/1...s-biontech-ceo

I personally know 2 people who died within 48 hours of taking the vaccine...and they were perfectly fine before that. It's not without risk. And don't even try to pretend it was a coincidence, I know the details and it was the vaccines. You are ignorant if you think it has zero risk.

The risk of COVID is nothing to me PERSONALLY, I've already had covid and it wasn't a big deal because I'm a healthy person. I've got worse viruses from my childs daycare. I understand it may be different for others. I don't take responsibility for other peoples health.

Live in fear if you want. Be a fatass if you want. Hide in your house if you want. I believe in freedom of choice. It's up to you how you wanna play the game. Being scared of unvaccinated people or blaming them for the pandemic continuing is ignorant.

Yes, waste of time to vax kids. And also stupid. You need hundred thousands of vaxxed healthy children to prevent 1 death. And nobody knows what is more deadlier. The (new) corona, or jab 1,2,3,4... And how much time between boosters ... the EU is talking about boostering every 3 months. And they can still get it and spread it. So i don't see why you would allow ony vaxxed children to school. The shots could better be sent to countries that need them for elderly people with underying disease.

Look dude,

My mother is a doctor and she told me:

''Listen son, do whatever you think its the best for your body, but me personally not taking any vaccine that does not have an immediate and permanent effect.''

I agree, me personally I rather fight covid (btw, did it and won) than what's in vaccines

Did you know that there's two reddit boards about Russian Roulette? Ya, one board is for people who swear up and down that the game is not actually dangerous. Every single one of them has played it and not a single person was killed. Ya literally 100% safe.

The other board is for people who have lost the game, and there isn't even a single member.

Conclusion: Russian Roulette is perfectly safe. After playing, not a single player has ever said anything to the contrary.

You pussies that think the game is dangerous, you're all just sheep.

DEMAND THE FREEDOM TO PLAY RUSSIAN ROULETTE!

You just don't get that simply being alive is playing a game of russian roulette. There's a million things that can harm or kill you, and that includes choosing to get the vaccine too. Everything is risky, including driving down the street.

Do not be afraid.

Bullshit.

This is what misinformation looks like.

That's not what he says in the article. He's saying vaccines work but aren't yet effective against Omicron.

Do you ever get tired of lying? Look at who I'm asking.

Lots of healthcare workers getting fired/dismissed for being anti vacers. Your mom sounds like one of them.

Thanks for responding to me "Idigmygirls" and "J. Falcon"

You complain of idiots who don't listen and who post misinformation.

I post some arguments for general discussion without trolling and bring up good points and of course you ignore me and go after others with one liners trying to look cool. Low hanging fruit.

You people who support restrictions can't argue properly because you know the truth is not on your side so you have to use other tactics to try to "win" instead of trying to discuss like a mature adult.

It's amazing that, after nearly a whole year of vaccinations, people are still asking these questions.

The best reason: it helps slow down the spread.
Another good reason, it keeps healthcare services from being overrun (with idiot antivaxxers).

Your unvaccinated friend is roughly 20 times more likely to give you COVID

No, Vaccinated People Are Not ‘Just as Likely’ to Spread the Coronavirus as Unvaccinated People

Fully vaccinated less likely to pass COVID-19 to others


Feature Article: If Vaccines Work, Why Do Unvaccinated People Pose a Risk?

So thanks off for at least engaging in the discussion with me.

What you are doing here is basing your arguments on media articles. Most media is biased toward one side or another which is why I don't use any to support any of mine. We could go back and forth all day pasting articles from experts supporting our arguments and it wouldn't change anything.

What I try to do is just look at the stats and go from there.

The stats are now telling us that it's the vaccinated (with the unvaxxed too) who are spreading the virus and it's spreading much faster due to the variant. Many outbreaks all over North America occurred where vaccine passports existed, meaning it was ONLY the vaccinated who are spreading it, and spreading it fast too. The GM of the Toronto Raptors (NBA) just got his booster and recently got covid along with 3 other high profile executives, who were also boosted.

So it doesn't seem to me that vaccinated individuals slow the spread.

And 2, shutting the unvaccinated out of society won't stop them from getting covid. They will just gather at work or in people's homes and get it there. Most people don't get it at the movies or at restaurants etc...

So it won't stop the hospitals from being overrun - if they ever were in the first place. As a matter of fact many countries closed field hospitals that were erected to take on extra covid patients because they were never used.

Here in Ontario 90% of people 12 and up are vaccinated. If they work the way you say they do (and maybe they do) then why would we need a passport? Those 10% are not going to fill the hospitals on their own if they weren't full when nobody was vaccinated.

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Your opinion doesn't mean anything. You are not a trained medical professional. You are not a virologist. When I hear people "doing their own research" I know well what that means: unsubstantiated CT bullshit. You have nothing but assumptions and hunches. Your distrust of the media notwithstanding, I have the large majority of the medical community on my side. Who do you think reasonable people will believe?

Btw, you did not dispute a single one of my studies. I thought you wanted to have a discussion? Where are your facts? Where are your links to studies? Sorry if I don't take your personal opinion and anecdotal evidence as proof of anything.

Never ending cycle. Jab 1,2,3,4,5,6, maybe 10 shots soon. Solution is pretty simple, you get sick, recover, and live with it.

Neither are you. That leaves us on equal footing.

It's not my own research. I look at the stats that are published each day. This is not medical research with me coming up with a theory. The stats say that tons of vaccinated people are spreading it. And they are spreading it in areas where only vaccinated people can be.

This is not research. It is observation based on what the health authorities are publishing. Not some YouTube conspiracy theorist, not some blog, but what the government's own ministry of health are reporting.


So you are saying that we should just shut off our own brains and go with whatever the majority of experts think?

Most people are political and have a bias or are scared to speak out.

If the medical community tells me that unvaccinated people are more likely to spread it and then THESE SAME PEOPLE publish data (in the form of cases) that contradict what they say then they need to be called out.

Again, I could find lots of links and we could go back and forth forever making this thread last 1000 pages.

Again, I'm not giving you a personal opinion nor anecdotal evidence.

Please look at the data published each day by these health authorities that you trust. They publish data that says that vaccinated people are spreading this like mad.

This is not an opinion of mine. This is not anecdotal evidence. They are the ones giving us this data.

No, it doesn't. I linked to facts and studies. You did not. Until you can point me to actual research your opinion means jack shit. Your CT crap doesn't impress me.

I'll get the 4th jab as soon as it's available. In the meantime, I'll continue to mask up and avoid the unvaxed. Not only because I want to live, but because Post-Covid (Long Covid) is serious, serious shit. I'd rather avoid it if possible. Or at least be vaccinated if I'm unlucky enough to catch it.

unless you die from it. :2 cents:

So basically you can't have a discussion.

I'll say one thing. I will never, ever forgive the people who blindly supported this whole fiasco.

Ever.

People are dying en masse from the lock downs. In Africa 10,000's of thousands of kids are starving and will die (up to 1/4 million) because we in the Western world locked down. 1.4 million tuberculosis cases will rebound due to our lock downs. The amount of people who died waiting for medical treatment is in the 1000s here in Canada. The youth have more overdose deaths than ever before, kids have suffered massively with with mental health issues and are in hospitals due to that and not covid, the poor are way further behind and so millions of kids in the poor areas of the US will never recover socially, education-wise and socio-economically. Domestic abuse is up and not even being detected in many cases. Inflation is out of control and the cost of living is out of hand and will make life much worse for everyone for years to come.

We haven't finished paying for lock downs yet and the bill will take years to pay off.

I know I know. The argument is, "Well if we didn't lock down then it would have been worse."

No it wouldn't have. We have places that did and didn't lock down and the outcomes are the same generally speaking.

You will have to live with this blood on your hands the rest of your life.

My conscience is clear.

Happy Holidays.

if I remember correctly faucia was Satan under Trump but turned into jesus under Biden.

that seems LIKE A MAJOR TRUST ISSUE TO ME, however to democrats just business as usual.

and you wonder why peeps don't get the jab? the media and politicians have destroyed the credibility of the medial community.

our leadership is stupid, making decision based on THEIR income and race resentment not our safety.

I'm wondering you being from Manhattan has anything to do with your 'beliefs'. the peeps in flyover country are having a different reaction.

I watched a guy play Russian roulette at my dinning table one time. no messy clean up.

the media has ONE AGENDA, clicks for money. do NOT ever think otherwise :2 cents:

That's nice.

So no studies, huh? No links to research from respected sources? Facts? Just your random opinion from a random guy on a forum.

That was a short "discussion"

For all those that support lockdowns, we tried both lockdowns and no lockdowns here and it has effectively made no difference.

Poland had lockdowns a couple of times through the pandemic. This last wave they didn't do any lockdowns, just 'mask indoors'. No vax mandates, checking of covid passports, nothing. Basically just let it run it's course. The covid numbers were roughly the same as they were with lockdowns - maybe a bit lower, and have started slowly going down now (after approximately the same time frame). Double-vaccinated are getting Covid at roughly a proportional rate to unvaccinated.

My uncle, aunt, cousin, step father, step brother (all unvaccinated) caught covid in the last couple of weeks with heavy coughing and fever, and were more or less completely healthy after taking Amantadine for 1-3 days.

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This :2 cents:



IF VACCINE WORKS and lowers the hospitalization WHY IS THE PANIC RIGHT NOW? WHY THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT SHUTTING DOWN THE BORDER AGAIN?
Oh yes, Double vaccinated are the one that is the sickest, with their now Weak immune system after each shot they takes......... No wonder you need 4th shoot now :1orglaugh

Wonder who are the idiots.... #FuckingRobotBrainDeadalready



FUCKTRUDEAU has a big announcement today....... Guess what it will be talking about ? ...

Reading Mopek1's replies leads me to believe maybe Paul Markham didn't die after all... he just switched nicks

Two COVID-19 vaccines doses isn’t fully vaccinated anymore: scientist
 

The spreading Omicron variant means people with two doses of COVID-19 vaccines are no longer fully vaccinated.


That’s according to University of Saskatchewan epidemiologist Nazeem Muhajarine, who said the COVID-19 variant’s ability to evade vaccine-induced immunity means everyone needs a booster shot.

“The two-dose (or) one-dose primary series of vaccine doesn’t really mean that you are fully vaccinated,” he said.

And he added that everyone should get the vaccines as soon as possible because the Omicron variant is the most transmissible yet.

Though infections with Omicron appear mild — and he stressed scientists still need more information about the severity — Muhajarine said everyone should take the variant seriously.

That’s because it can still damage health or prove deadly and because Saskatchewan’s health-care system is recovering from the fourth wave.

“A small fraction of a very large number (of people needing hospitalization) is still going to be a large number of people needing hospital care in a system which is already exhausted,” he said.

Part of what makes Omicron spread so easily appears to be the speed with which it replicates and with which infected people display symptoms.

Anyone infected with Delta or other variants, or the original strain, began displaying symptoms usually three to five days after exposure, he said.

People infected with Omicron typically show symptoms about 48 hours after contracting the virus — symptoms that resemble a common cold and not the hacking cough and loss of taste associated with previous strains.

That short incubation time means people are infectious sooner, which makes it harder to stop the spread.

And it is spreading.

https://globalnews.ca/news/8464813/c...ted-scientist/


what a fucking shit show..........

oh, Florida doesn't have Covid or doesn't have fucking sheep? which did you mean?:1orglaugh

So exactly what always happens with viruses happened. A viruses goal is not to kill it's host, it's to replicate. If it kills it's host it has less chance to replicate. The natural evolution is that a weaker strain that is more infectious will always eventually win out. That's what is happening here. The omicron strain is the end of covid.

https://globalnews.ca/news/8466612/c...-covid-update/

Live covid update from Prime minister and Tam tam

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Say no more. :1orglaugh