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Biggie Smalls Web Writing 01-06-2022 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22950845)

Can't say the same about you...... Hope you can find peace one day :)

Hopeless :1orglaugh

Brian mike 01-06-2022 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Biggie Smalls Web Writing (Post 22950857)
Hopeless :1orglaugh

:helpme


:winkwink:

Brian mike 01-06-2022 08:32 AM

Ontario stats
 
Who really make the hospital and whole health care system collapse ?

- First if your vaccinated one jab should have fix you up and you should not be in the hospital.....

- Who repeatedly need to go to hospital because they keep getting sick ? VACCINATED FOLKS. WHY SO MANY IN THE HOSPITAL ? WHY ? WHY WHY WHY ?

https://i.postimg.cc/FRg4zyK7/ontario.png

https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data/hospitalizations


PEOPLE NEED TO WAKE UP AND JUST SAY NO MORE...... :thumbsup

J. Falcon 01-06-2022 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22950845)
Your government promised you to get one shot and life would be back to normal.....

Nobody promised that. Stop lying.

J. Falcon 01-06-2022 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Biggie Smalls Web Writing (Post 22950853)
Im definitely spreading covid misinformation.

I know. Stop doing that.

Brian mike 01-06-2022 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 22950874)
Nobody promised that. Stop lying.

Well i don't know where you live but here in Canada THAT'S WHAT THEY PROMISED.....
After a new variant show up, FOLKS just take a booster jabs ( Double vaccinated = FULLY VACCINATED ) and life can go to normal.......
They allowed/ installed the vax passport QR code and banned non vaccinated to all businesses ( except essential services )....


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Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22949747)
The vaccine hesitant have every right to feel betrayed

https://smartcdn.gprod.postmedia.dig...=423&type=webp
Government actions throughout the pandemic have contributed to vaccine hesitancy, writes Lorrie Goldstein.

The unseemly rush by governments to vilify Canadians refusing to be vaccinated as the root of all evil ignores the fact government actions throughout the pandemic have contributed to vaccine hesitancy.

To begin with, it is a myth to claim everyone who refuses to be vaccinated is irresponsible, reckless, racist, misogynist, throws stones at the prime minister or demonstrates outside hospitals.


As Abacus Data pollster Bruce Anderson wrote in Maclean’s in August after surveying 30,000 adult Canadians on their attitudes toward vaccines, the “typical ‘vaccine hesitant’ person is a 42-year-old woman who votes Liberal.”

Anderson estimated 2.1 million people — 7% of adult Canadians — were hesitant to be vaccinated, as opposed to an equal number who refuse to be vaccinated and will not change their minds no matter what.

“The hesitant are not conspiracy theorists,” Anderson wrote.

“They aren’t angry at the world. They don’t think COVID-19 is a hoax. They aren’t radicals of the left or the right — 61% of them say they are on the centre of the spectrum. Two-thirds have post-secondary education.

“About half (46%) live in Ontario and well over half (59%) are women. A quarter were born outside Canada. Their average age is 42 … If they were voting in a federal election today, 35% would vote Liberal, 25% Conservative, 17% NDP, 9% Green.

“However, compared to the vaccinated, they don’t have a lot of trust in government. They also try to avoid prescriptions, dislike putting anything unnatural in their bodies and 83% say they are reluctant to take any vaccines. Most worry that COVID-19 vaccines haven’t really been tested for a long time.”

Given those findings, let’s examine how government actions during the pandemic have undoubtedly contributed to vaccine hesitancy.

Before reversing their positions, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Ontario Premier Doug Ford adamantly opposed vaccine passports, saying they would be divisive to society.

With the Trudeau government now decreeing workers who lose their jobs because of vaccine mandates will not be eligible for employment insurance — even if they had agreed to be tested every day — the vaccine hesitant have every right to feel betrayed.

Then there is the issue of how governments changed their positions on pandemic protocols, often almost overnight, with little or no explanation for the reasons.

True, some of this occurred because medical understanding of COVID-19 changed over time.

But when the Public Health Agency of Canada originally claimed mask wearing could be less safe than not wearing them before reversing itself, we now know PHAC took that position amid a severe shortage of masks, because the federal and provincial governments had failed to maintain adequate stockpiles of personal protection equipment despite a decade of official warnings to do so.

We also know while the federal government publicly insisted for months that restricting air travel, imposing border controls and mandatory quarantines wouldn’t control the spread of COVID-19 — before reversing itself on these issues — federal officials were privately advising the government it didn’t have the resources to enforce mandatory quarantines and similar measures.

Failing to be open, honest and transparent with the public has obviously contributed to vaccine hesitancy.

Decisions by the Ford government in Ontario to allow big box stores to remain open to in-person shopping while denying this to small businesses, and later allowing increased capacity limits for Scotiabank Arena and Rogers Centre — including eating and drinking during games — while continuing to enforce social distancing requirements for restaurants reinforced the belief big business was calling the shots with the government.

Ontario’s ill-advised decision to allow police to question anyone about where they were going to determine if they had a legitimate reason for being outside — hastily withdrawn after police forces said they wouldn’t enforce it — fed into the belief of those already suspicious of governments that they were using the pandemic as an excuse to increase arbitrary powers.

Inconsistent messaging on vaccines — repeated statements from Trudeau, premiers and public health officials that “the best vaccine for you to take is the very first one offered to you,” followed by the National Advisory Committee on Immunization declaring that no, actually Pfizer and Moderna were preferred to AstraZeneca — obviously contributed to vaccine hesitancy.

Ditto the Trudeau government’s original plan to concoct a deal with China to provide vaccines to Canada — when Canadians had good reasons to be suspicious of China’s actions throughout the pandemic on a number of fronts — undoubtedly fuelled the vaccine hesitant’s distrust of government.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/golds...ation_with_ads


J. Falcon 01-06-2022 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22950877)
Well i don't know where you live but here in Canada THAT'S WHAT THEY PROMISED.....
After a new variant show up, FOLKS just take a booster jabs ( Double vaccinated = FULLY VACCINATED ) and life can go to normal.......
They allowed/ installed the vax passport QR code and banned non vaccinated to all businesses ( except essential services )....

Nobody promised one shot and life is back to normal. That's complete bullshit.

Brian mike 01-06-2022 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 22950880)
Nobody promised one shot and life is back to normal. That's complete bullshit.

OK, BRAINSWASHED ROBOT :1orglaugh .... Keep promoting tyranny..... YOUR CHOICE not mine. :2 cents:

The Porn Nerd 01-06-2022 10:13 AM

So....no strip clubs open?

Tasty1 01-06-2022 01:06 PM

People from Canada just go to Cancun to party.
It already starts in the plane.


Major (Tom) 01-06-2022 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22950888)
OK, BRAINSWASHED ROBOT :1orglaugh .... Keep promoting tyranny..... YOUR CHOICE not mine. :2 cents:

J falcon is like mulder. He wants to believe

The Porn Nerd 01-06-2022 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 22951053)
J falcon is like mulder. He wants to believe

If he was like Fox I'd fuck him. :thumbsup

Brian mike 01-06-2022 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by the porn nerd (Post 22950931)
so....no strip clubs open?

:( :(:(:(

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Originally Posted by dukeskywalker (Post 22951053)
j falcon is like mulder. He wants to believe

:1orglaugh

lock 01-07-2022 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 22946140)
Anybody throwing around a statement like "vaccines don't work" in the middle of pandemic is trolling, extremely ignorant or extremely evil. Either way, you're part of the disinformation problem.

Vaccinated people die from covid so the statement is actually correct. The biggest problem with disinformation is there is no transparency that fact check has an interest. Great news is the survival rate is extraordinary for a pandemic.
https://www.macrotrends.net/countrie...rld/death-rate
https://knoema.com/insights/coronavi...a+and+Insights

jscott 01-08-2022 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 22950838)
Shame on YOU for spreading Covid misinformation.

Your antivax mom must be proud.

Jfalcon, please stop spreading misinformation. Someone disagreeing with you doesn't make them antivaxxer. :2 cents:

CAHEK 01-08-2022 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Tasty1 (Post 22950987)
People from Canada just go to Cancun to party.
It already starts in the plane.


Things to do in Canada.

1. Leave

Brian mike 01-08-2022 10:42 AM



Many feel this way, Please read this and let us know if you know the answer:

- You told me to social distance to end the pandemic and I did.

- You told me to mask up to end the pandemic and I did.

- You told me to miss my parents' funerals to end the pandemic and I did.

- You told me to rat on my neighbour to end the pandemic and I did.

- You told me to collect CERB/CRB to end the pandemic and I did.

- You told me to get double-vaxxed to end the pandemic and I did.

- You told me to show a government permission slip for restaurant access to end the pandemic and I did.

- You told me to enforce public health rules in the privacy of my own home to end the pandemic and I did.

- You told me to get boosted to end the pandemic and I did.

So, why is the pandemic still ongoing?

:party-smi

dcortez 01-08-2022 11:20 AM

Are there ANY credible, science-based, peer reviewed online portals that discuss the FULL ramifications of these vaccines?

(Nothing by Mercola please.)

Idigmygirls 01-08-2022 11:06 PM

New update from today.

Hospitals in Montreal are experiencing a four day wait for patients that need a hospital bed. That's not just for Covid, but the national news CTV is just now reporting that at this time, patients coming in to the ER are being put on stretchers in the hallways and waiting rooms for four days before they are able to be moved to a hospital bed. That wait is growing longer every day.

I acknowledge that there are lots of nuances to this problem, but by far the biggest issue is that the demand for urgent care for unvaccinated Covid patients is the primary culprit. The hospital system is being projected to fully collapse within 1-2 weeks where patients will be triaged and some left to palliative care without being treated.

This is now affecting all medical conditions, not just Covid.

So talk out of your asses all you want, the warnings were obvious and even the Lock Down was too little too late. Can any of you admit you were wrong to resist the urgent measures? Does anyone feel even a little bit bad that you being selfish has meant the vulnerable people can't even get hospital care now? Maybe if you had embraced the urgent request for you to consider the good of the whole community instead of your own selfish "right to party" that good people wouldn't be suffering as much as they are now.

It breaks my heart that there are people who don't care about the welfare of their fellow humans in need. And for something as trivial as being afraid of needles. Just so sad.

Grapesoda 01-09-2022 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Idigmygirls (Post 22951795)
New update from today.

Hospitals in Montreal are experiencing a four day wait for patients that need a hospital bed. That's not just for Covid, but the national news CTV is just now reporting that at this time, patients coming in to the ER are being put on stretchers in the hallways and waiting rooms for four days before they are able to be moved to a hospital bed. That wait is growing longer every day.

I acknowledge that there are lots of nuances to this problem, but by far the biggest issue is that the demand for urgent care for unvaccinated Covid patients is the primary culprit. The hospital system is being projected to fully collapse within 1-2 weeks where patients will be triaged and some left to palliative care without being treated.

This is now affecting all medical conditions, not just Covid.

So talk out of your asses all you want, the warnings were obvious and even the Lock Down was too little too late. Can any of you admit you were wrong to resist the urgent measures? Does anyone feel even a little bit bad that you being selfish has meant the vulnerable people can't even get hospital care now? Maybe if you had embraced the urgent request for you to consider the good of the whole community instead of your own selfish "right to party" that good people wouldn't be suffering as much as they are now.

It breaks my heart that there are people who don't care about the welfare of their fellow humans in need. And for something as trivial as being afraid of needles. Just so sad.

Easy they're pal you're whining.

Grapesoda 01-09-2022 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dcortez (Post 22951667)
Are there ANY credible, science-based, peer reviewed online portals that discuss the FULL ramifications of these vaccines?

(Nothing by Mercola please.)

Try another search engine besides Google and see what you can find

Grapesoda 01-09-2022 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22951649)


Many feel this way, Please read this and let us know if you know the answer:

- You told me to social distance to end the pandemic and I did.

- You told me to mask up to end the pandemic and I did.

- You told me to miss my parents' funerals to end the pandemic and I did.

- You told me to rat on my neighbour to end the pandemic and I did.

- You told me to collect CERB/CRB to end the pandemic and I did.

- You told me to get double-vaxxed to end the pandemic and I did.

- You told me to show a government permission slip for restaurant access to end the pandemic and I did.

- You told me to enforce public health rules in the privacy of my own home to end the pandemic and I did.

- You told me to get boosted to end the pandemic and I did.

So, why is the pandemic still ongoing?

:party-smi

According to CNN and crocketts it's all trump's fault

Brian mike 01-09-2022 05:49 AM

IT' IS NOTHING NEW PEOPLE LAY ON STRETCHERS IN HOSPITALS IN QUEBEC. I CAN SAY IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN LIKE THIS.....
Oh yeah, how do i know that? I'm fucking born in Quebec and grow up in Quebec....... The same story has Always been a shortage of health workers...
The so called government admit it him self to the media. STOP YOUR PROPAGANDA AGAINST NONVACCINATED. You are a lost cause..... Get in line get those jabs and enjoy the HIGH in your head.... GEEZZZ

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Originally Posted by Idigmygirls (Post 22951795)
New update from today.

Hospitals in Montreal are experiencing a four day wait for patients that need a hospital bed. That's not just for Covid, but the national news CTV is just now reporting that at this time, patients coming in to the ER are being put on stretchers in the hallways and waiting rooms for four days before they are able to be moved to a hospital bed. That wait is growing longer every day.

I acknowledge that there are lots of nuances to this problem, but by far the biggest issue is that the demand for urgent care for unvaccinated Covid patients is the primary culprit. The hospital system is being projected to fully collapse within 1-2 weeks where patients will be triaged and some left to palliative care without being treated.

This is now affecting all medical conditions, not just Covid.

So talk out of your asses all you want, the warnings were obvious and even the Lock Down was too little too late. Can any of you admit you were wrong to resist the urgent measures? Does anyone feel even a little bit bad that you being selfish has meant the vulnerable people can't even get hospital care now? Maybe if you had embraced the urgent request for you to consider the good of the whole community instead of your own selfish "right to party" that good people wouldn't be suffering as much as they are now.

It breaks my heart that there are people who don't care about the welfare of their fellow humans in need. And for something as trivial as being afraid of needles. Just so sad.

" Dubé said the measures were necessary to protect unvaccinated people, who represent at least half of those in hospital with the virus. " :Hollering


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montr...ions-1.6305992 -> unvaccinated used 50% of hospital bed, OK Who is the other 50% that dosen't need to be protected? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh


"Nearly 20,000 health-care workers absent, minister says "

Overwhelmed Hospitals Hit With Staffing Shortages As Covid Cases Surge......

^^^^^ NOT UNVACCINATED CAUSE HEALTH SYSTEM COLLAPSE ^^^^^


ANSWERING THIS YOU FASCIST :321GFY SUPPORTER = BRAINWASHED ROBOT

Many feel this way, Please read this and let us know if you know the answer:

- You told me to social distance to end the pandemic and I did.

- You told me to mask up to end the pandemic and I did.

- You told me to miss my parents' funerals to end the pandemic and I did.

- You told me to rat on my neighbor to end the pandemic and I did.

- You told me to collect CERB/CRB to end the pandemic and I did.

- You told me to get double-vaxxed to end the pandemic and I did.

- You told me to show a government permission slip for restaurant access to end the pandemic and I did.

- You told me to enforce public health rules in the privacy of my own home to end the pandemic and I did.

- You told me to get boosted to end the pandemic and I did.

So, why is the pandemic still ongoing?

https://i.postimg.cc/NfY7Sryd/4293.jpg

https://img.ifunny.co/images/f2bbbde...31bd3693_1.jpg

https://i.etsystatic.com/28640285/r/...90422_m4k0.jpg


Quebec to offer nurses bonuses of up to $18K to end staffing crisis
Province hopes its plan, which will cost $1B, will attract 4,300 nurses back to public system <-- Yeah because they left Quebec to go work in another province or country with FAT bonu$e$ and will not accept any threat from your tyranny :upsidedow

The Quebec government has announced it will provide nurses with financial bonuses of up to $18,000 as part of its emergency plan to fix the staffing crisis in the province's health-care network. :321GFY

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montr...isis-1.6186971

------------------------------------

General info about WHY nurse are quitting in General CAN/USA


Major (Tom) 01-09-2022 06:24 AM

https://twitter.com/lukewearechange/...167702530?s=21

Protest that’s happening. Remember, if you have a black lives matter flag, covid will not be spread. Repeat, a BLM flag will shield you from covid. This was proven all summer long.

Brian mike 01-09-2022 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 22951830)

Quebec, montreal :thumbsup
https://m1.quebecormedia.com/emp/emp...2567&width=968

Samething happening in France :thumbsup
https://images.radio-canada.ca/q_aut...t-vaccinal.jpg

I and a group of 20 going to a rally in Calgary AB very soon, WE NEED TO STAND UP all together......
So many vaccinated folks and nonvaccinated just have enough of the lies and enough to be played by the government AGENDA.....

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

directfiesta 01-09-2022 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22950877)
Well i don't know where you live but here in Canada THAT'S WHAT THEY PROMISED.....
After a new variant show up, FOLKS just take a booster jabs ( Double vaccinated = FULLY VACCINATED ) and life can go to normal.......
They allowed/ installed the vax passport QR code and banned non vaccinated to all businesses ( except essential services )....

Another lie ... no surprise from you ....

Non Vaccinated could not go to restaurants and some big shows.

They could go to The Bay, Canadian Tire, Walmart, Dollarama and so on .... You just lie .

But if they had balls, they would do it .... It would keep unvaccinated OUT of the hospitals, allowing my friend to have his hip surgery ( waiting for 18+ months ) and for another getting her cancer treated ....

But, your FREEDOMS ...... :mad:

Bunch of pussies .

Brian mike 01-09-2022 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 22951841)
Another lie ... no surprise from you ....

Non Vaccinated could not go to restaurants and some big shows.

They could go to The Bay, Canadian Tire, Walmart, Dollarama and so on .... You just lie .

But if they had balls, they would do it .... It would keep unvaccinated OUT of the hospitals, allowing my friend to have his hip surgery ( waiting for 18+ months ) and for another getting her cancer treated ....

But, your FREEDOMS ...... :mad:

Bunch of pussies .

1- The Bay, Canadian Tire, Walmart, Dollarama is essential services.... Blame your "Communist LEADER" FOR THOSE RULES NOT ME asshat :1orglaugh .
2- Everyone finds this funny all small stores need to be closed but Walmart and superstore the like big brand can stay open.
3- Another reason to ask Why to your "Communist LEADER". :321GFY
4- WAKE THE FUCKED UP BRAINWASHED ROBOT :winkwink:

WHAT ABOUT YOU PUT THE BLAME ON THE OTHER 50% FULLY VACCINATED BUT STILL GET 50% OF THE BED ?
How do you explain that ........ Fuck off already...... :1orglaugh

Oh and guess what? I own a courier/ delivery service and it's an essential business, and guess what this unvaccinated does Monday to Friday?
Delivering prescription medicine to Old folks home..... You know that place one day you will end up too and will rely on ANYBODY to deliver your medicine or your depends.
I don't quit or am scared of those outbreaks going on RIGHT AT THE MOMENT! I still do my job and those Fantastic old folks get their medicine they need. SO FUCK YOU DUMBASS YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT WHAT I DO IN MY DAILY LIFE TO SUPPORT OLD FOLKS AND THE NURSE IN THIS TIME OF CRISIS. THE NURSE APPRECIATED US, THE OLD FOLKS ALWAYS WAVE AT US. I stay in the lobby when a nurse come and unsealed the delivery and EVERY FUCKING TIME they tell us a big thank you to not quit like other does because many many delivery/drivers quit when they saw the outbreak sign in the lobby of those place affected by covid..........:321GFY

Now my anger is pass, I will forgive you for your ignorance, NOT YOUR FAULT you been jabified..... Hope you find peace very soon! :kisskiss

NoWhErE 01-09-2022 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22951846)
1- The Bay, Canadian Tire, Walmart, Dollarama is essential services.... Blame your "Communist LEADER" FOR THOSE RULES NOT ME asshat :1orglaugh .
2- Everyone finds this funny all small stores need to be closed but Walmart and superstore the like big brand can stay open.
3- Another reason to ask Why to your "Communist LEADER". :321GFY
4- WAKE THE FUCKED UP BRAINWASHED ROBOT :winkwink:

WHAT ABOUT YOU PUT THE BLAME ON THE OTHER 50% FULLY VACCINATED BUT STILL GET 50% OF THE BED ?
How do you explain that ........ Fuck off already...... :1orglaugh

Oh and guess what? I own a courier/ delivery service and it's an essential business, and guess what this unvaccinated does Monday to Friday?
Delivering prescription medicine to Old folks home..... You know that place one day you will end up too and will rely on ANYBODY to deliver your medicine or your depends.
I don't quit or am scared of those outbreaks going on RIGHT AT THE MOMENT! I still do my job and those Fantastic old folks get their medicine they need. SO FUCK YOU DUMBASS YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT WHAT I DO IN MY DAILY LIFE TO SUPPORT OLD FOLKS AND THE NURSE IN THIS TIME OF CRISIS. THE NURSE APPRECIATED US, THE OLD FOLKS ALWAYS WAVE AT US. I stay in the lobby when a nurse come and unsealed the delivery and EVERY FUCKING TIME they tell us a big thank you to not quit like other does because many many delivery/drivers quit when they saw the outbreak sign in the lobby of those place affected by covid..........:321GFY

Now my anger is pass, I will forgive you for your ignorance, NOT YOUR FAULT you been jabified..... Hope you find peace very soon! :kisskiss

Yes, let's all take medical & political advice from a full-time delivery driver.

candyflip 01-09-2022 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 22945883)
Cornell University is in Covid crisis and classes are shut down for final exams.

To be on campus for the last 6 months, you needed to be vaccinated. That's students and staff (my kids' mom works at CU) - seems to me that anyone getting upset about not being able to get boosted shouldn't worry too much, the "vaccine" doesn't do shit. We've got 70% of all hospitalizations where I'm at, being fully boosted.

J. Falcon 01-09-2022 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 22951916)
the "vaccine" doesn't do shit.

Bullshit.

Brian mike 01-09-2022 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 22951886)
Yes, let's all take medical & political advice from a full-time delivery driver.

NO NO YOUR RIGHT...... Let all take advice from skype: lordofthecameltoe :1orglaugh AKA @NoWhErE

Get out of here you Lunatic! I'm the owner of a Pickup and Delivery service app operating at the moment in 6 major city in Canada: Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton, Toronto, Ottawa & Montreal.

So you Dumb fuck can get a hike......... Let me be a delivery driver aka essentiel service that the government will not shut down in case of lockdown :1orglaugh CUZ THEY SEEMS TO LOVE DOING THAT SHIT :winkwink:

Grapesoda 01-09-2022 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Biggie Smalls Web Writing (Post 22946301)
Look dude,

My mother is a doctor and she told me:

''Listen son, do whatever you think its the best for your body, but me personally not taking any vaccine that does not have an immediate and permanent effect.''

Is the vaccine really even a vaccine?


My understanding of vaccine like smallpox for instance is that the vaccine has a piece of the disease in it that your body reacts to to build immunities.

The covid vaccines are nothing like that. The covid vaccines are an experiment with R DNA, That doesn't seem to be working except for Nancy pelasi who's getting rich

Grapesoda 01-09-2022 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22951846)
1- The Bay, Canadian Tire, Walmart, Dollarama is essential services.... Blame your "Communist LEADER" FOR THOSE RULES NOT ME asshat :1orglaugh .
2- Everyone finds this funny all small stores need to be closed but Walmart and superstore the like big brand can stay open.
3- Another reason to ask Why to your "Communist LEADER". :321GFY
4- WAKE THE FUCKED UP BRAINWASHED ROBOT :winkwink:

WHAT ABOUT YOU PUT THE BLAME ON THE OTHER 50% FULLY VACCINATED BUT STILL GET 50% OF THE BED ?
How do you explain that ........ Fuck off already...... :1orglaugh

Oh and guess what? I own a courier/ delivery service and it's an essential business, and guess what this unvaccinated does Monday to Friday?
Delivering prescription medicine to Old folks home..... You know that place one day you will end up too and will rely on ANYBODY to deliver your medicine or your depends.
I don't quit or am scared of those outbreaks going on RIGHT AT THE MOMENT! I still do my job and those Fantastic old folks get their medicine they need. SO FUCK YOU DUMBASS YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT WHAT I DO IN MY DAILY LIFE TO SUPPORT OLD FOLKS AND THE NURSE IN THIS TIME OF CRISIS. THE NURSE APPRECIATED US, THE OLD FOLKS ALWAYS WAVE AT US. I stay in the lobby when a nurse come and unsealed the delivery and EVERY FUCKING TIME they tell us a big thank you to not quit like other does because many many delivery/drivers quit when they saw the outbreak sign in the lobby of those place affected by covid..........:321GFY

Now my anger is pass, I will forgive you for your ignorance, NOT YOUR FAULT you been jabified..... Hope you find peace very soon! :kisskiss

Yep and Christian churches need to be shut down although I've heard no mention of mosques


I used to cook and drive for snap

Major (Tom) 01-09-2022 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 22951920)
Bullshit.

Vaccine is useless against omnicron. Useless in general if you can still catch/spread, and need constant boosters.

Biggie Smalls Web Writing 01-09-2022 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22951985)
Is the vaccine really even a vaccine?


My understanding of vaccine like smallpox for instance is that the vaccine has a piece of the disease in it that your body reacts to to build immunities.

The covid vaccines are nothing like that. The covid vaccines are an experiment with R DNA, That doesn't seem to be working except for Nancy pelasi who's getting rich

Exactly, I mean how do you define this?

Its nothing like those vaccines we took as kids (MMR and many others) that actually work.

NoWhErE 01-09-2022 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22951960)
I'm the owner of a Pickup and Delivery service app operating at the moment in 6 major city in Canada: Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton, Toronto, Ottawa & Montreal.

So you Dumb fuck can get a hike......... Let me be a delivery driver aka essentiel service that the government will not shut down in case of lockdown :1orglaugh CUZ THEY SEEMS TO LOVE DOING THAT SHIT :winkwink:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22951960)
guess what this unvaccinated does Monday to Friday?
Delivering prescription medicine to Old folks home.....

You said it yourself, you spend your week delivering prescription medicine to old people. That makes you a delivery driver.

Idigmygirls 01-09-2022 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22951985)
Is the vaccine really even a vaccine?


My understanding of vaccine like smallpox for instance is that the vaccine has a piece of the disease in it that your body reacts to to build immunities.

The covid vaccines are nothing like that. The covid vaccines are an experiment with R DNA, ...

Hey, serious suggestion: you should try to learn what this vaccine actually does. RNA is NOT DNA. I'm not trying to gaslight, but you honestly should learn the science if you want to have this discussion.

RNA is a single strand of nucleic acids that codes for specific proteins. That means RNA is a short lived bit of nucleic acids that tells a cell to make a protein.

In this case, the protein being "requested" is a bit of the spike protein that is found on the Covid virus. When that protein is detected by the body's immune system, the body reacts by making antibodies.

So in the case of mRNA vaccines, instead of directly putting that bit of protein in the syringe and injecting it into your body, they are putting this bit of RNA (single strand nucleic acids) that itself instructs the cell to make the protein. RNA is very fragile, so after giving the instructions for a few cycles, it is broken down into harmless (actually useful) nucleic acids that are the same as you'd get by eating a bite of steak. What you're left with is just some of the protein that your body sees as an invading Covid virus and your immune system responds.

That's very generally what happens with mRNA vaccines. They are safer than traditional vaccines because they get your own body to code for the proteins rather than injecting part of the virus or attenuated live virus into your body, and they leave nothing behind but protein and antibodies.

There is absolutely nothing involving DNA whatsoever. RNA and DNA are totally different kinds of molecules with completely different functions within a living creature.

Please do your own research if you care to corroborate what I've outlined. I believe it is important if you want to be taken at all seriously.

Brian mike 01-09-2022 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Idigmygirls (Post 22952005)
Hey, serious suggestion: you should try to learn what this vaccine actually does. RNA is NOT DNA. I'm not trying to gaslight, but you honestly should learn the science if you want to have this discussion.

RNA is a single strand of nucleic acids that codes for specific proteins. That means RNA is a short lived bit of nucleic acids that tells a cell to make a protein.

In this case, the protein being "requested" is a bit of the spike protein that is found on the Covid virus. When that protein is detected by the body's immune system, the body reacts by making antibodies.

So in the case of mRNA vaccines, instead of directly putting that bit of protein in the syringe and injecting it into your body, they are putting this bit of RNA (single strand nucleic acids) that itself instructs the cell to make the protein. RNA is very fragile, so after giving the instructions for a few cycles, it is broken down into harmless (actually useful) nucleic acids that are the same as you'd get by eating a bite of steak. What you're left with is just some of the protein that your body sees as an invading Covid virus and your immune system responds.

That's very generally what happens with mRNA vaccines. They are safer than traditional vaccines because they get your own body to code for the proteins rather than injecting part of the virus or attenuated live virus into your body, and they leave nothing behind but protein and antibodies.

There is absolutely nothing involving DNA whatsoever. RNA and DNA are totally different kinds of molecules with completely different functions within a living creature.

Please do your own research if you care to corroborate what I've outlined. I believe it is important if you want to be taken at all seriously.

You seem very very intelligent and this helps me to understand a little more. BUT I STILL DON'T WANT IT IN MY BODY :2 cents:

Do you and let the others do their own shit. This is exactly what people have an issue with all this......

So pushy to inject the one that decides they don't want it. SO WRONG ON SO MANY LEVELS. IMHO

One thing I don't understand, At the beginning of the pandemic we were seeing ads on tv and on the radio saying stuff like this :

If you have contracted covid and did recover from it WE NEED YOUR BLOOD to help to create a vaccine .... Something like that. I'm pretty sure you hear it or saw it.

Why now Natural immunity is so BAD BAD BAD but they were in need of the blood or whatever they need from the people that did recover from covid.

AGAIN These leaders have wrongly handled the crisis in my opinion, hence why there is so much resistance to this experimental drug or whatever we want to call it.

Brian mike 01-09-2022 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 22952004)
You said it yourself, you spend your week delivering prescription medicine to old people. That makes you a delivery driver.

And your point is? What is so bad about the delivery driver's job?

Again What they do to you so you feel the need to hate all nonvaccinated?
I bet you don't even know anymore :1orglaugh

You act like a parrot that repeats everything that your Communist leader Saying :1orglaugh:winkwink:


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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22951987)
I used to cook and drive for snap

:thumbsup

jscott 01-09-2022 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 22951886)
Yes, let's all take medical & political advice from a full-time delivery driver.

anybody taking medical advice from anyone on GFY is an idiot. :2 cents:

make your health decisions for yourself and your family. If you're unsure of something, ask your own medical professional near you. Period

NoWhErE 01-09-2022 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jscott (Post 22952035)
anybody taking medical advice from anyone on GFY is an idiot. :2 cents:

make your health decisions for yourself and your family. If you're unsure of something, ask your own medical professional near you. Period

I 110% agree with you. You're preaching to the choir.

Idigmygirls 01-09-2022 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22952024)
You seem very very intelligent and this helps me to understand a little more.

Thank you :)

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Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22952024)
BUT I STILL DON'T WANT IT IN MY BODY :2 cents: ...

I'm not going to argue; I now feel that vaccines are more about protecting the individual than the community, so your body your choice.

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Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22952024)
One thing I don't understand, At the beginning of the pandemic we were seeing ads on tv and on the radio saying stuff like this :

If you have contracted covid and did recover from it WE NEED YOUR BLOOD to help to create a vaccine .... Something like that. I'm pretty sure you hear it or saw it.

Why now Natural immunity is so BAD BAD BAD but they were in need of the blood or whatever they need from the people that did recover from covid.

Yes, I saw that. The request for blood was so that the labs could extract the convalescent plasma. What that is is blood plasma from someone who has recovered which contains the antibodies that fought off the disease. These antibodies were then used in IV's that put them directly into the bloodstream of very sick Covid patients. The antibodies from the recovered person helped the sick person fight the illness.

Since those early days, scientists have been able to create antibodies that serve the same purpose. These are what you may have heard being called "Monoclonal antibodies." Basically "clones" of the antibodies that would have been in the convalescent plasma. This is still a treatment for very ill Covid patients; but since these now exist, there is no longer a need to extract blood plasma from recovered people.

That said, natural immunity is good immunity. It has been shown to keep a person from becoming seriously ill from Covid for at least a few months and, for some variants, even longer. Natural immunity can be thought of as a single dose of mRNA vaccine. Probably even better than a single dose, but probably not as strong as having two doses. Natural immunity does go away quickly - but then again, so does the protection from vaccines. So in the end, I personally would feel pretty safe from catching a bad case of Covid for at least a few months after I'd recovered, but I personally would still take a shot no longer than 3-4 months post-recovery.

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Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22952024)
AGAIN These leaders have wrongly handled the crisis in my opinion, hence why there is so much resistance to this experimental drug or whatever we want to call it.

The "leadership" on Covid has been a total disaster. The messaging was wrong, the actions were wrong and misguided and on this point we are in complete agreement :thumbsup :mad:

Brian mike 01-09-2022 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Idigmygirls (Post 22952082)
Thank you :)


I'm not going to argue; I now feel that vaccines are more about protecting the individual than the community, so your body your choice.


Yes, I saw that. The request for blood was so that the labs could extract the convalescent plasma. What that is is blood plasma from someone who has recovered which contains the antibodies that fought off the disease. These antibodies were then used in IV's that put them directly into the bloodstream of very sick Covid patients. The antibodies from the recovered person helped the sick person fight the illness.

Since those early days, scientists have been able to create antibodies that serve the same purpose. These are what you may have heard being called "Monoclonal antibodies." Basically "clones" of the antibodies that would have been in the convalescent plasma. This is still a treatment for very ill Covid patients; but since these now exist, there is no longer a need to extract blood plasma from recovered people.

That said, natural immunity is good immunity. It has been shown to keep a person from becoming seriously ill from Covid for at least a few months and, for some variants, even longer. Natural immunity can be thought of as a single dose of mRNA vaccine. Probably even better than a single dose, but probably not as strong as having two doses. Natural immunity does go away quickly - but then again, so does the protection from vaccines. So in the end, I personally would feel pretty safe from catching a bad case of Covid for at least a few months after I'd recovered, but I personally would still take a shot no longer than 3-4 months post-recovery.


The "leadership" on Covid has been a total disaster. The messaging was wrong, the actions were wrong and misguided and on this point we are in complete agreement :thumbsup :mad:

:1orglaugh We just agreed on something! :thumbsup

Thanks for your input mate. :)

Brian mike 01-10-2022 12:07 PM

"Deltacron", new and overpowered incarnation of COVID
 
"Deltacron", a new and powerful embodiment of the coronavirus? Far from being proven, this hypothesis, which has been running all weekend, is the last episode in a series of media frenzy since the meteoric and very real rise of the Omicron variant at the end of 2021.

"There are currently people infected with both Omicron and Delta, and we have discovered a strain that combines the two," Cypriot virologist Leondios Kostrikis told a local television station on Friday.

During the weekend, many international media picked up on this announcement and the name given by researchers to this new incarnation: "Deltacron".

The name and the idea are likely to cause concern: a mix between Delta, which dominated the pandemic for a good part of 2021, and Omicron, appeared at the end of the year and carried by a meteoric boom because of a very strong contagiousness.

Skepticism

But the scientific community quickly became skeptical. Several researchers pointed out that it was impossible to find a single line with the big twenty samples supposed of "Deltacron".

We can indeed reconstitute, from databases fed by researchers, the genealogical tree, known as “phylogenetic”, of a version of the virus.

However, if “Deltacron” existed and marked the arrival of a new variant, the cases identified would come from a common core of successive mutations.

This is clearly not the case and skeptical researchers are making a more prosaic hypothesis: samples would have become contaminated during their examination in the laboratory.

"Deltacron surely comes from contamination during sequencing," researcher Maria Van Kerkhove, who leads the fight against COVID at the World Health Organization (WHO), said on Twitter on Monday.

The media wave around Deltacron is only the latest after a series of excesses since the entry into the scene of Omicron.

"Flurona"

Social networks and some press titles ignited at the turn of the new year around "flurona", the nickname given to the simultaneous co-infection with the flu ("flu" in English) and the coronavirus.

This runaway, stemming from a case in an Israeli woman, did not take into account the fact that cases of double infections have been known since the start of the pandemic, rather stirring up the image of a new virus.

"You shouldn't use words like Deltacron or Flurona," Kerkhove warned. They "suggest a combination of variants or viruses, which is simply not the case."

Finally, a number of Anglo-Saxon media and, to a lesser extent, French, worried at the beginning of 2022 about the emergence of a “French variant”, which would present many mutations and would be linked to a large number of hospitalizations in the south of the country.

This variant, identified as B.1.640.2, is very real and was spotted by British researchers in early December. But it has actually only been isolated in a very limited number of samples and there is no reason to relate to the predicament in hospitals in part of southern France.

"There have only been about twenty B.1640.2 samples for the moment (and) the last were isolated on December 6," geneticist François Balloux remarked on Twitter.

He regretted an “absurd” runaway about this variant, whose media exposure was revived by a study in December by researchers from the IHU in Marseille, in particular signed by the controversial professor Didier Raoult.

Fusion of variants?

These three cases of runaway may correspond to realities. For Deltacron, it is quite possible that existing variants will eventually fuse in people infected with both.

For "flurona", the double infection of influenza and COVID is a real concern, which for example pushes the French authorities to strongly encourage the elderly to be vaccinated against both.

Finally, the new variants remain closely watched. Epidemiologists regularly warn that a more contagious or more severe incarnation of the coronavirus could change the face of the epidemic.

"There are variants that emerge all the time," French epidemiologist Arnaud Fontanet recalled Monday on the BFMTV / RMC channel. But, in recent days, "no variant that is said to be worrying".

:Oh crap

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/20...vid-1#cxrecs_s

Rochard 01-10-2022 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22945832)
WORST is Coming :2

Bar
Night club
cinema
ETC.....

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/20...r-au-travers-1

Sorry I am late to this thread.

In the past two years I haven't been to a bar or a nighclub. We've only eaten in restaurants a handful of times in the past two years. I've also been to the movies only three times in the past two years since COVID hit (Two Marvel movies and the new James Bond movie).

Brian mike 01-10-2022 06:36 PM

(Quebec) The national director of public health Doctor Horacio Arruda resigns
 
https://m1.quebecormedia.com/emp/emp...=705&width=968

The national director of public health, Dr Horacio Arruda, tendered his resignation on Monday evening.

In a letter to the Prime Minister, Dr Arruda explains that he preferred to resign, since his controversial opinions on the management of the pandemic were starting, according to him, to damage the credibility of the government.

“The recent comments made on the credibility of our opinions and on our scientific rigor undoubtedly cause a certain erosion of the adhesion of pollution. In such a context, I consider it appropriate to offer you the possibility of replacing me before the end of the term of my mandate, at least as a DNSP ”, wrote the doctor.

An emblematic figure in the management of the pandemic which had aroused the enthusiasm of Quebecers in the first months of the crisis in 2020, the management of the pandemic by Dr. Arruda was increasingly criticized and calls for his replacement were made more and more, in particular because of its multiple about-faces.

Indeed, the government and its national director of public health had had to back down on several occasions, in particular on the wearing of a mask, presented as useless at the start of the pandemic. More recently, news of the return to work of infected but asymptomatic healthcare workers had taken everyone by surprise.

"It is important to consider each of these recommendations in the context of the knowledge of the moment and of the time", pleaded Dr. Arruda in his letter by assuring to have made "the best [recommendations] possible" with the knowledge which he had. .

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/20...a-demisionne-1

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Who's Next? Dr TamTam ?

flashfire 01-11-2022 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22951987)
Yep and Christian churches need to be shut down although I've heard no mention of mosques


I used to cook and drive for snap

lol you can't be this stupid

flashfire 01-11-2022 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by w4mmaps (Post 22946281)
I personally know 2 people who died within 48 hours of taking the vaccine...and they were perfectly fine before that. It's not without risk. And don't even try to pretend it was a coincidence, I know the details and it was the vaccines. You are ignorant if you think it has zero risk.

The risk of COVID is nothing to me PERSONALLY, I've already had covid and it wasn't a big deal because I'm a healthy person. I've got worse viruses from my childs daycare. I understand it may be different for others. I don't take responsibility for other peoples health.

Live in fear if you want. Be a fatass if you want. Hide in your house if you want. I believe in freedom of choice. It's up to you how you wanna play the game. Being scared of unvaccinated people or blaming them for the pandemic continuing is ignorant.

no you don't

Major (Tom) 01-11-2022 01:18 AM

https://i.imgur.com/Y3wNhbK.jpg

flashfire 01-11-2022 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22951831)
Quebec, montreal :thumbsup
https://m1.quebecormedia.com/emp/emp...2567&width=968

Samething happening in France :thumbsup
https://images.radio-canada.ca/q_aut...t-vaccinal.jpg

I and a group of 20 going to a rally in Calgary AB very soon, WE NEED TO STAND UP all together......
So many vaccinated folks and nonvaccinated just have enough of the lies and enough to be played by the government AGENDA.....

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

That should do it, let me guess 15 teeth between you all


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