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machinegunkelly 12-30-2021 01:58 PM

in todays climate, at least they showed up.

I dunno how things are where you are, but here everywhere is short staffed, hiring, and unable to fill positions.

The Porn Nerd 12-30-2021 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 22948913)
I just realized I forgot to include the word "late" in the title :1orglaugh

I know man just busting your chops. :1orglaugh
Happy New Year!!

J. Falcon 12-30-2021 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by machinegunkelly (Post 22948916)
in todays climate, at least they showed up.

I dunno how things are where you are, but here everywhere is short staffed, hiring, and unable to fill positions.

I'm talking like 5 years ago. Another important details I left out of the thread lol.

ilnjscb 01-09-2022 07:10 AM

Let's turn this around:

I only hire people with special skills that require verification and extensive reference checks. So if someone makes it through that, they're special, and I wouldn't care if they were 15 minutes late. If I needed them to be somewhere on time, I would tell them, "be there on time, and text me if for ANY REASON you are going to be late". Then they are never late. Further, anyone can be 15 minutes late on their first day for a variety of real reasons.

If, on the other hand, you hire large groups of poor schlubs with no skills only because they are breathing, then I suppose you could fire them for any trivial reason without consequence.

THEREFORE, if you are in a job where being 15 minutes late on the first day is an offense resulting in termination, you know you have been classified by your employer as a useless drone who is just filling a spot and waiting to die. Quit immediately and take stock of your life, is my advice. Never, ever work for an organization or person who would fire you on the first day for so minor a mistake.

J. Falcon 01-09-2022 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 22951845)
Let's turn this around:

I only hire people with special skills that require verification and extensive reference checks. So if someone makes it through that, they're special, and I wouldn't care if they were 15 minutes late. If I needed them to be somewhere on time, I would tell them, "be there on time, and text me if for ANY REASON you are going to be late". Then they are never late. Further, anyone can be 15 minutes late on their first day for a variety of real reasons.

If, on the other hand, you hire large groups of poor schlubs with no skills only because they are breathing, then I suppose you could fire them for any trivial reason without consequence.

THEREFORE, if you are in a job where being 15 minutes late on the first day is an offense resulting in termination, you know you have been classified by your employer as a useless drone who is just filling a spot and waiting to die. Quit immediately and take stock of your life, is my advice. Never, ever work for an organization or person who would fire you on the first day for so minor a mistake.

Your opinion is noted :)

crockett 01-09-2022 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 22946026)
The question is really more about attitude and respect than any practical issues. If a person shows up to work late on their first day, what does it say about them?

Did you even bother to ask why they were late? What was the excuse?

What does it say about you that you instantly think they are a bad person because they were late for work. Give it a chill and see how the person works.

What the fuck is 15 mins in the scope of things unless you are just an asshole as an employer. If it happens repeatedly then sure that’s a problem but any number of things could cause someone to be late.

If the person just doesn’t give a fuck then sure, but if it was simply a mistake they showed up late then who fucking cares unless you are a drill sergeant who expects everyone to jump every time you walk in the door.

It could have easily taken longer to get to work than expected or traffic or any number of things. Being late 1 day doesn’t give any reflection on their character other than they are capable of making a mistake just like everyone else.

J. Falcon 01-09-2022 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22952048)
Did you even bother to ask why they were late? What was the excuse?

What does it say about you that you instantly think they are a bad person because they were late for work. Give it a chill and see how the person works.

What the fuck is 15 mins in the scope of things unless you are just an asshole as an employer. If it happens repeatedly then sure that’s a problem but any number of things could cause someone to be late.

If the person just doesn’t give a fuck then sure, but if it was simply a mistake they showed up late then who fucking cares unless you are a drill sergeant who expects everyone to jump every time you walk in the door.

What's to keep the person from lying?

MobileVRXXX 01-12-2022 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 22952051)
What's to keep the person from lying?

IF this is your line of thinking, I doubt some top-notch pros would be willing to work for you. I mean, it's his first day, and you don't care to ask why is he late because you believe he'll lie to you.

Why the hell are you even hiring a person if you believe he is a liar before even getting to know him.

I mean, come on, 15 minutes is nothing.

- You can tear your t-shirts
- You can spill something on yourself while driving
- There can be traffic (especially on a new work where you don't know the roads)
- Don't you have kids? Cause sometimes, you have to drop 1/2/3 kids to specific places, and sometimes they tend not to cooperate

The list goes on...

Before anything else, be HUMAN and act humanely with your employees.

the Shemp 01-12-2022 06:37 PM

i wouldn't on the first day, but i would make it clear employees are to arrive on time and ready to work. After that, you need to monitor his arrival times and take progressive action....reprimand, suspension and if it still continues...firing...

$5 submissions 01-12-2022 09:17 PM

It depends.

But it definitely is a bad look.

neoblaz3r 01-13-2022 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp (Post 22953310)
i wouldn't on the first day, but i would make it clear employees are to arrive on time and ready to work. After that, you need to monitor his arrival times and take progressive action....reprimand, suspension and if it still continues...firing...

I feel like that's exactly how people do in my earea

Major (Tom) 01-13-2022 08:59 PM

First day? No. Ask him what time it is and what time he’s supposed to start.

If by the end of the week the behavior continues? Yes.

He didn’t earn his keep to cut him latitude. If he kicks ass 6 months down the road? You’ll bend a bit. Loosen the reigns but never let go.


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