Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22978723)

Won't fly IMHO. Wernher von Braun is dead. We both know it was not the US Moon program. It was a German Nazi one. You may try to argue like "but wait, the first man at the Moon was a US citizen!"

Man, the first survived live creatures in space were Soviet dogs Belka and Strelka. So the phrases "American Moon program" and "Doggy space program" are absolutely equal :2 cents:

To sum it up: Soviet commies used dogs for their space program. German Nazis used Americans for their Moon program. Actually Nazis used not just Americans as a labor and experimental mouses for their project. They also used the American money.



Of course they've been there. But the same way as Soviet Belka and Strelka dogs. So when we speak about the Space program, it was totally won by the Soviet Union: first Sputnik, first dogs and only after that, a first man in the outer space (both inside a spaceship and outside). As about the Moon program so it doubtfully has a single winner because:

1) The first pictures of the Moon's "dark side": Luna-3 robot sent by the Soviet Union.
2) The first successful Moon landing: Luna-9 robot sent by the Soviet Union.
3) The first samples of the lunar soil: Luna-24 robot sent by the Soviet Union.
4) The first human at the Moon: American citizens sent by German Nazis (von Braun was an SS officer).

These are known facts nobody should argue with and there is no 100% winner in the Moon race... as you can see.

Originally Posted by broker3x (Post 22984600)

All coins to the moon!

Originally Posted by ZTT (Post 22978744)

They've been saying they're going "back" for at least twenty years now, because with each passing decade it becomes more and more obvious that they never went in the first place. Eg:

https://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/01/14/bush.space/ - ambitious plan to return Americans to the moon by 2020

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/...n-2024/585880/ - return Americans to the lunar surface in 2024

The reason for this new pantomime is probably because next month is the 50th anniversary of Apollo 16, and December is the 50th anniversary of Apollo 17, and people will quite rightly be asking how could we put men on the Moon every six months half a century ago, while fighting a one trillion dollar war, but no country on Earth has even attempted to do it since.



Amusing, but...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Osoaviakhim
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-1_(missile)



4) The first to fake a Moon landing:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zond_5..._test_and_hoax

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 22984796)

Originally Posted by NALEM (Post 22979391)

Regardless of what you may think of BrassMonkey (BM love the avatar BTW), and his or her contributions to this forum, there are far too many people :helpme that are worse. And with 69K posts we can deduct that BrassMonkey clearly has a lot of time on his or her hands :1orglaugh, we do not know as fact that he or she has A/C. While living in the Palm Springs area, where it can reach 117 F, I learned that local building codes require heating but not A/C. J.C., looks like I have been spending way too much time on here as well :2 cents:.

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22984814)

The president of the United States cannot get a blowjob in the White House with the entire world finding out about it and yet you think the moon landing was fake. Way to go.

Originally Posted by todservices (Post 22985303)

The moon is just a light and it's easy to prove it :
- You can see the blue of the sky through the moon. This is impossible if the moon is a solid object
- You can see stars through the moon, it's been proven by astronomers for centuries. This is impossible if the moon is a solid object.

For these 2 reasons - and there are many more - the moon is just a disc of light, probably a plasma.

No one is "going back to the moon"
This is just another BS story to keep the masses entertained...

Originally Posted by todservices (Post 22985303)

The moon is just a light and it's easy to prove it :
- You can see the blue of the sky through the moon. This is impossible if the moon is a solid object
- You can see stars through the moon, it's been proven by astronomers for centuries. This is impossible if the moon is a solid object.

For these 2 reasons - and there are many more - the moon is just a disc of light, probably a plasma.

No one is "going back to the moon"
This is just another BS story to keep the masses entertained...

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 22986025)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh hahahahaha!!! we have a bloody donkey!

An eclipse is an astronomical event that occurs when an astronomical object or spacecraft is temporarily obscured, by passing into the shadow of another body or by having another body pass between it and the viewer.

fiddy fake ass moon rocks

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 22986004)

I am truly sorry that you were dropped on your head so many times as an infant.

Originally Posted by todservices (Post 22986304)

The moon is just a light and it's easy to prove it :
- You can see the blue of the sky through the moon. This is impossible if the moon is a solid object
- You can see stars through the moon, it's been proven by astronomers for centuries. This is impossible if the moon is a solid object.

For these 2 reasons - and there are many more - the moon is just a disc of light, probably a plasma.

No one is "going back to the moon"
This is just another BS story to keep the masses entertained...

Originally Posted by todservices (Post 22986304)

The moon is just a light and it's easy to prove it :
- You can see the blue of the sky through the moon. This is impossible if the moon is a solid object
- You can see stars through the moon, it's been proven by astronomers for centuries. This is impossible if the moon is a solid object.

For these 2 reasons - and there are many more - the moon is just a disc of light, probably a plasma.

No one is "going back to the moon"
This is just another BS story to keep the masses entertained...

Originally Posted by lezinterracial (Post 22986317)

Finally, somebody that makes sense. Are the stars plasma lights too?

Originally Posted by todservices (Post 22987068)

I don't know.

But the sure thing is that the moon is only a light in the sky.
It is not a solid object.

Originally Posted by digitalfantasies (Post 22987077)

Any cheap ass zoom camera can see the surface of the moon in great detail you idiot.
If you want to troll choose a story that people cant verify with their own eyes

Originally Posted by todservices (Post 22987086)

I piss on you and on what you think moron

I will repeat it again :

- You can see the blue of the sky through the moon. This is impossible if the moon is a solid object
- You can see stars through the moon, it's been proven by astronomers for centuries. This is impossible if the moon is a solid object.

Originally Posted by todservices (Post 22987068)

I don't know.

But the sure thing is that the moon is only a light in the sky.
It is not a solid object.

Originally Posted by Look Chang (Post 22987803)

I can see your asshole through your brain. :stoned

Originally Posted by todservices (Post 22987086)

- You can see the blue of the sky through the moon. This is impossible if the moon is a solid object
- You can see stars through the moon, it's been proven by astronomers for centuries. This is impossible if the moon is a solid object.

Originally Posted by digitalfantasies (Post 22987087)

- You can not see the blue of the sky through the moon. This is impossible because the moon is a solid object
- You can not see stars through the moon, it's been proven by astronomers for centuries. This is impossible because the moon is a solid object.

Originally Posted by todservices (Post 22988384)

which is normal, you have been brainwashed since birth and you obviously are not the sharpest tool in the shed, so it may take a while for you to actually understand what I'm saying.

Some people found God, others never will, it's a hard motherfucking fact of life but it's a fact you are going to have to deal with

That being said, i'd like to make sure you understand that I totally do not give a shit about what you think.

And this applies also to all futures morons that will insult me on this thread because I said something true they are not ready to hear. I do not care what you think, I genuinely do not give a fuck, you should know that before posting :thumbsup


And peace to the people who can debate a subject without insulting.
If you don't insult me, I will always treat you with respect.
But if you insult me, I'm not Chris Rock, you will hear back from me :winkwink:



So I stand fucking firm on what I said earlier, head high and middle finger well elevated :
- You can see the blue of the sky through the moon. This is impossible if the moon is a solid object
- You can see stars through the moon, it's been proven by astronomers for centuries. This is impossible if the moon is a solid object.
and there is not much you can do about it anyway :)

Originally Posted by digitalfantasies (Post 22987077)

Any cheap ass zoom camera can see the surface of the moon in great detail you idiot.
If you want to troll choose a story that people cant verify with their own eyes

Originally Posted by JesseQuinn (Post 22988392)

you're actually both a bit right. the moon is a solid object. but one can see what appears to be stars behind the moon at times

this is cuz it takes time for light from the stars to reach the earth. the earth rotates so by the time starlight reaches earth it can give the appearance of stars behind the moon. but they're really not behind the moon, it's just the curvature of light combined with a rotating planet. the moon is a solid object

the universe is a fascinating thing. I don't pretend to be an expert but on these two points I'm pretty sure

Originally Posted by todservices (Post 22989048)

the official theory, extremely complicated, but it's the official stuff. ok.

Originally Posted by todservices (Post 22989048)

Thank you Jesse for replying without insulting, that's quite rare here :thumbsup

Fair enough, what you describe is the official theory, extremely complicated, but it's the official stuff. ok.

But then how do you explain the blue of the sky through the moon ?

Because if stars are light years away, the blue of the sky itself is maximum 6000 miles in altitude (the limit of the exosphere) and most probably 400 miles (thermosphere). So that blue light is instant to us, it's not taking as much time as the stars light..

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 22989103)

You do not see the Blue sky through the Moon.

Originally Posted by dave90210 (Post 22989068)

Any historical event you aren't allowed to question is total fucking bullshit.

Originally Posted by todservices (Post 22989151)

No. YOU do not see it.
I see it crystal clear :)

If you try to remove all the false ideas we all have been fed since birth, then maybe you'll understand.

Originally Posted by todservices (Post 22989717)

A spherical solid object can not reflect light on 100% of its surface like the moon does during full moons

For a solid object to reflect light on its entirety, it has to be flat or concave.
If the reflector is convexe (like a sphere), every ray of light points in a direct line with the radius, perpendicular to the surface resulting in no reflection.

https://funvizeo.com/media/memes/592...08639b4967.jpg

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 22989732)

No one suggested it reflects on its entire surface.

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 22989732)

Have you never heard of the dark side of the moon?

Originally Posted by todservices (Post 22989794)

the full moon
it reflects on its entire visible surface during the full moon
which is impossible on a convex object



I studied the moon and our universe for at least 350-400 hours over the past 10 months, took note, read, watch videos, wrote dozens of pages about it. I was fascinated when I understood all I was told since my childhood was a complete lie.

So yeah, i *heard* of the dark side of the moon

It took me several weeks to accept the fact that it was all a big fat lie, so I get it one can't understand it immediately