I agree :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

What is the reason programs like Crak and Tsunami are suddenly asking for more invasive info than is needed for a 1099?

Obviously my photo is not a secret, but seems odd and, of course, problematic on principle.

Ah but they still not request your underwear number

Are you not Incorporated? Sounds like that's the way to get around the facial scan and will probably help you out taxwise too.

Where do you see incorporation providing an exemption?

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What do they request if you're a corporation?
WG

All they need is your Corp Number and Tax ID. Pretty straight forward.

WG is enough of a whale that he may appropriately receive special treatment.

My understanding with the third party verification systems is that they vary on whether they request a photograph, based on what is already in their database.

I assume the larger privacy issue is the point and not having to take a selfie, right? I do not personally promote Crak or Tsunami and my identity is not a secret, so it doesn't impact me, but the larger privacy issue is important.

Can anyone from Crak https://www.crakrevenue.com/blog/identity-validation/ or Tsunami "Note that businesses will have to verify the identity of the ultimate beneficial owner." please confirm or deny that it makes any particular differences what type of entity is being "verified"?

Also, still curious why any sponsor is putting themselves through this. Is this from a specific government or credit card processor or ?

Rage against the machine! Hell yeah.

so knowing my bank is not is not a stealth account you close it? they can still trick you lol. they 10 steps ahead

That was actually my reply. And, no I am defn not a whale with Crak.

Fiddy Stool Samples :thumbsup

Well, from all my tested smartlinks networks Crak performs worse.
Also, they does not counts some leads.

It's time for all move to a better network.

the go around for being incorporated is simple.
They ask you to prove ownership of the corp. At least visa did.

Canada is a shit law country?

Is there a new Canadian law or regulation?

Apologies. I guess I misread the quoted part.

So did you not have to verify the ultimate beneficial owner or just system did not request a selfie?

What does that have to do with my question?

Which question? I understood your post to be saying Canada has bad laws and so I was asking if there is a new bad law forcing sponsors do go through this silliness. I don't think that was a nonsequitor. Did I miss something?

The other poster implied that Crak operated in country wth "shit laws"

Since Crak is Canadian, I was asking if Canada was such a country.

I CAN CONFIRM CANADA = SHIT LAW......

Lots of bills getting pass the last few weeks while all eyes are DISTRACTED with " Standing Blindly with Ukraine & Corrupt TruCastro & sleepy joe ".
:2 cents::2 cents:

I love how the World's Policeman makes up the rules that everyone else has to play by, from 2257 to Mastercard to KYC/AML, but it's always Canada or the EU or China that's to blame.

Personally I think if your payout method is a bank account that has done its own KYC then your identity should be considered verified enough. Unfortunately I don't run the world, and companies are increasingly demanding ID as the laziest way to cover their own asses, so the TL;DR is pretty simple:

If you're making a lot of money and/or it's money you need to pay your rent, submit your ID.

If it's money you can live without or can make just as easily elsewhere, don't submit.

I'm sure the porn stars and cam models whose hard work you make your money from, who've had to hand over their IDs to random scumbags for decades, are no doubt crying Amazons and Niles over this Nazi Germany level atrocity.

Actually, I know a girl on pornhub that refuses to give a face scan to PHub because she thinks they can make deep fakes of her and I think it is a valid point.

I think a valid ID should be enough

Yeap, there's a lot of scammers out there, and if they don't put stuff like this in place, it'll only get worse. :2 cents:

I don't mean this in a contentious way, so please don't take this wrong, but what sorts of scammers will be stopped by onerous rules for sponsors who just want to pay what they owe to affiliates?

A massive percentage of all adult transactions are fraudulent, and networks like crak are easy targets. People from countries where $50-100 is a lot of money will create an account, sign up to a couple of offers with a stolen credit card, or hit a CPL offer with some random free emails and proxies, and cash out the minimum... times a thousand people.

And then the GFYers will complain that minimum payouts are too high and there aren't enough third party money transfer services to get paid by :1orglaugh

I can't recall what specific info Crak requested when we opened our account many years ago, but I know it wasn't onerous. I can't remember if they required beneficial owner info.

No, they have never requested a selfie.

Not that I'm aware of.

I'm guessing this is something Crak is doing on their own, probably in response to some type of legal opinion that they have rec'd. They have been tightening up their criteria in other situations as well. Probably all related.

At some point he added a ?, making it a question. I don't know when he added it.

The fact that you said it is makes me wonder if it is at all.

Okay that's the point I had not even considered and yes it's valid

I recently did a face scan to open a business bank account.

The world is evolving toward a bunch of additional online bullshits, there is nothing we can do I guess, I am pretty sure crak knows what they are doing and will not put in jeopardy the privacy and security of anyone!

Facebook sued me because I had a Facebook button login and used their dev apps on a porn site with privacy policies that were not cool for them, there is worse shit than sending an ID, and thank god the verification process was totally painless and 99% sure secure same with Tsunami.

probably all the other companies will do that soon as well for some reasons I don't understand as well but we gotta do what they are telling us to do I guess to comply with all the new fucked up rules.

#FUCK

Haha what won't help.

Shit they will ask more info in order to not pay

1) Any corporation can set their terms of business, which may, or may not, be based of responding to changes in legislation, and/or consumer attitudes.

2) To assume that any entity can protect the safety and security of your vital data, especially during a time when identity fraud is a business itself, would not be founded in reality.

3) Anyone can choose to do business, not do business, or opt-out of doing business, should they not accept the original, or revised, terms and conditions.

The problem though, is that when certain policies, that are not necessarily rooted in legal requirements (I am NOT suggesting this is or isn't the case here), become normalized, finding alternative businesses to work with might no longer be possible.

Out of curiosity, are sponsors, requiring KYC info willing to do the same for their affiliates?

ie. Full legal documentation of corporate ownership, bank information, and ID for all principles of the company, and all employees, who may have access to your account information?

Also, would these companies be willing to undergo annual third party accounting audits and forensic traffic audits to assert the integrity of their statements of affiliate traffic/conversions/sales?

Just asking...

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"things get to terrible places one tiny step at a time.

If I encroach on you and I'm sophisticated about it, I'm going to encroach right to the point where you start to protest. Then I'm going to stop. Then I'm going to wait.

Then you're going to calm down, and I'm going to encroach again right to the point where you protest."

"Then I'm going to stop, then I'm going to wait. I'm just going to do this forever," explained Peterson. "Before you know it, I'm going to be back three miles from where you started, and I'll have done this one step at a time. Then you'll go, 'how did I get here?' and the answer was, well, I pushed you a little further than you should've gone."

- Jordan Peterson

And this is very true, it is exactly what is happening right now, behind the guise every gov is telling their citizens, climate, AML, war, disease, general safety etc etc :disgust

I was going to bring up the same thing, if sponsors give no pushback to regulators about KYC requirements, if they roll over immediately and will require KYC from affiliates, then they should also provide their own KYS (know your sponsor) details. Great points dcortez :thumbsup

Yes, Canada is shit since Trudeaushenko took over after last election. And it will only be worse over time.

:2 cents:

I think the same thing every time I look at my bank account
and wonder why programs from first world countries,
use offshore bank accounts.