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caarolinee24 08-03-2022 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 23028754)
I work with a good number of cam models on various projects. You would be extremely fucking surprised at the shit hardware they have. There are obviously studio models that have a room prepared for them with good hardware and lighting but most of the DIY models that work from home are using a 10 year old laptop with it's built in camera and no lighting.

You don't have a single photo of yourself in the bio for when you are offline. Your whole offline page is useless and empty, leaving me no reason to come back if I found my way here somehow via someone promoting you.

I have high end pc with brio cam and also 2 umbrella lights for good lighting. Thanks for the photo advice. I will add more. I just didn't think that it's important at all.

caarolinee24 08-03-2022 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 23028701)
You still owe an apology to Nikki. She offered up advice. You don't like it, fine, say thanks and move on.

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Yeah i guess you're right. She was helping but that reaction towards me is really inappropriate.

JayMoyes 08-03-2022 05:14 PM

Hi Caroline, as I post this, you're live. The room is empty except for a a light, a futon and a gaming chair (nice wood floor though). You're on your phone looking bored.

You need some decorations that hint at your personality, like some posters or art. They don't need to be expensive, they just need to say something about you.

Your CB page needs a tip menu and links for Twitter & Instagram. When you're posting on Twitter & IG, you don't need to be nude or post hardcore, just some nice pics. You should also post on Twitter & IG a schedule of when and where you're online, that way users have a way of finding you ahead of time instead of just browsing Chaturbate.

Remember, you're running this as your own business and your own brand. Don't just rely on a platform to do the marketing for you.

Best of luck to you!

caarolinee24 08-03-2022 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JayMoyes (Post 23028937)
Hi Caroline, as I post this, you're live. The room is empty except for a a light, a futon and a gaming chair (nice wood floor though). You're on your phone looking bored.

You need some decorations that hint at your personality, like some posters or art. They don't need to be expensive, they just need to say something about you.

Your CB page needs a tip menu and links for Twitter & Instagram. When you're posting on Twitter & IG, you don't need to be nude or post hardcore, just some nice pics. You should also post on Twitter & IG a schedule of when and where you're online, that way users have a way of finding you ahead of time instead of just browsing Chaturbate.

Remember, you're running this as your own business and your own brand. Don't just rely on a platform to do the marketing for you.

Best of luck to you!


Thank you for the hints. I have twitter but i do not post photos there. Also IG as well. Im bored because they are like 4 people in my room lol. I will take you advice and make some decorations but the thing that bothers me is that, they are plenty of models on top that doesn't have any decorations whatsoever and get like 7 to 12k viewers. They are also models that do not have twitter or any kind of social media and get around 5 to 8k people in the room. They are also models who do not do anything just stand there and have massive traffic. Can you please explain that to me?

sarettah 08-03-2022 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by caarolinee24 (Post 23028927)
Yeah i guess you're right. She was helping but that reaction towards me is really inappropriate.

And that is still not an apology to her.

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caarolinee24 08-03-2022 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 23028942)
And that is still not an apology to her.

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I wouldn't apologize to someone who just told me to "fuck off" ...

sarettah 08-03-2022 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by caarolinee24 (Post 23028944)
I wouldn't apologize to someone who just told me to "fuck off" ...

You should apologize for being rude. You deserved the fuck off when you totally discounted her advice as useless in the way you did without even a thank you for trying to give advice.

I am thinking that you are going to turn into yet another user who asks for advice but thinks they know better than everybody offering up advice, thus, a waste of our time.

I would welcome you proving me wrong.

Also, here is the only advice I will offer up. You are looking for "The Secret" and "The secret" is that there is no secret.

Good luck, I think you will need it.


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caarolinee24 08-03-2022 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 23028948)
You should apologize for being rude. You deserved the fuck off when you totally discounted her advice as useless in the way you did without even a thank you for trying to give advice.

I am thinking that you are going to turn into yet another user who asks for advice but thinks they know better than everybody offering up advice, thus, a waste of our time.

I would welcome you proving me wrong.

Also, here is the only advice I will offer up. You are looking for "The Secret" and "The secret" is that there is no secret.

Good luck, I think you will need it.


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On the contrary i know nothing ... "one must always learn no matter how much they have learned so far in their life" and i didn't meant to offend her. I just said that it is useless because i already tried it multiple like really multiple times and all it got me is anonymous viewers and also they show your cam for 10 to 20 seconds only. There is like 1 % chance for someone to see you there for that time range. Are you also a model? If yes, have you ever tried this option? If not, why do i have to prove you wrong, since you have no idea how this works? I have some knowledge of marketing i haven't done anything yet (yes i know it's my fault) but i will start from today.

lezinterracial 08-03-2022 06:31 PM

Just watch other successful chaturbate camgirls. Don't try to steal their viewers. Just watch.

Act nice and caring, Don't be rude. Remember who tips you, Make them feel like you care.

Think Disney World. Always be rosy and happy. Use twitter.

rocky1234 08-03-2022 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by caarolinee24 (Post 23028940)
Thank you for the hints. I have twitter but i do not post photos there. Also IG as well. Im bored because they are like 4 people in my room lol. I will take you advice and make some decorations but the thing that bothers me is that, they are plenty of models on top that doesn't have any decorations whatsoever and get like 7 to 12k viewers. They are also models that do not have twitter or any kind of social media and get around 5 to 8k people in the room. They are also models who do not do anything just stand there and have massive traffic. Can you please explain that to me?

Guys don't go looking on twitter for camgirls. neither do they go on IG looking to find camgirls. They go to the camsite. So you probably wasting your time on social media for now. Sent you a friend request!:)

lezinterracial 08-03-2022 06:35 PM

Also check out twitch models. Came concept just not nude.

caarolinee24 08-03-2022 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rocky1234 (Post 23028956)
Guys don't go looking on twitter for camgirls. neither do they go on IG looking to find camgirls. They go to the camsite. So you probably wasting your time on social media for now. Sent you a friend request!:)

I accepted your request. How do i pm you?

caarolinee24 08-03-2022 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by lezinterracial (Post 23028955)
Just watch other successful chaturbate camgirls. Don't try to steal their viewers. Just watch.

Act nice and caring, Don't be rude. Remember who tips you, Make them feel like you care.

Think Disney World. Always be rosy and happy. Use twitter.


I watched every model on 1st page hundreds of times. Tried to do like them before, nothing worked. Nothing is working. So i just gave up. I have changed positions, rooms, whatever i had in mind. Nothing seems to bring traffic except when im doing something sexual and this doesn't even bring much traffic at all. Like maximum of 50 viewers, 41 of them anonymous 6 of them gray... ouh and i always care for my tippers, i have most of them in my snapchat and their emails. Some of them return, most of them do not. I share them my daily routines like what im doing everyday, but they don't seem to be interested. I have noticed that most of the guys are just interested in a room with lot's of viewers in order for them to interact or "Show off" when they tip to the other users. Unfortunately i have 12 to 20 users (when it's a good day). And 95 % of them are anonymous.

sarettah 08-03-2022 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by caarolinee24 (Post 23028951)
why do i have to prove you wrong, since you have no idea how this works?

Prove me wrong regarding taking advice and not insisting you know everything is what I said.

You are asking for help and for the most part you have answered (in my opinion of course) with statements that indicate you think that you know better than the person offering you the advice. That makes me wonder why you are bothering to ask for advice is the first place.

I don't mean that you have to take everybody's advice. There will surely be some bad advice offered up but you should at least consider what has been said and show some appreciation for the time that people spend offering it up.

Just in my opinion, and it is worth every cent that you paid for it.

Again, Good Luck.

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sarettah 08-03-2022 07:55 PM

I am in your room right now. Username camfoxes.

How come I cannot hear anything from you? I hear some keystrokes and some background noise but no sounds or words from you?

Do you speak to your fans?

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sarettah 08-03-2022 08:28 PM

Also noticed that you are typing but nothing shows in the chat room. Are you doing private chat with someone?

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caarolinee24 08-03-2022 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 23028969)
I am in your room right now. Username camfoxes.

How come I cannot hear anything from you? I hear some keystrokes and some background noise but no sounds or words from you?

Do you speak to your fans?

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I can't speak english very good and im shy of speaking it. I know it's important factor , but i speak with my fans as much as i can in private. But is that really important ? I mean lots of models don't speak, the other half speaks foreign languages. Also are you familiar with ehotlovea? You can't even hear keystrokes from her :D but she is the most successful model in the entire website.

caarolinee24 08-03-2022 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 23028973)
Also noticed that you are typing but nothing shows in the chat room. Are you doing private chat with someone?

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Yes. Why?

sarettah 08-03-2022 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by caarolinee24 (Post 23028974)
I can't speak english very good and im shy of speaking it. I know it's important factor , but i speak with my fans as much as i can in private. But is that really important ? I mean lots of models don't speak, the other half speaks foreign languages. Also are you familiar with ehotlovea? You can't even hear keystrokes from her :D but she is the most successful model in the entire website.

Not saying if it is good or bad. I just noticed it.

I am not a good reference for what you should or shouldn't do. I don't watch cams very much, I just sell them ;p

I do know, though, that there are many successful cam girls that are popular because of their interactions with their audience. That does not mean that it is a requirement by any means.

I have seen ehotlovea, yes. When I am checking my sites I have sometimes run across her but I have the sound and chat purposely off on any cams on my sites. I want people to click through to chaturbate in order to interact with the model.

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sarettah 08-03-2022 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by caarolinee24 (Post 23028975)
Yes. Why?

Just wondering. But, as a viewer I felt that I was missing out on something because I could see you typing but it wasn't showing up on the screen. Started thinking I might have a setting wrong or that the chat had frozen or something.

It made me feel left out.

Take that for what it's worth.

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caarolinee24 08-03-2022 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 23028976)
Not saying if it is good or bad. I just noticed it.

I am not a good reference for what you should or shouldn't do. I don't watch cams very much, I just sell them ;p

I do know, though, that there are many successful cam girls that are popular because of their interactions with their audience. That does not mean that it is a requirement by any means.

I have seen ehotlovea, yes. When I am checking my sites I have sometimes run across her but I have the sound and chat purposely off on any cams on my sites. I want people to click through to chaturbate in order to interact with the model.

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That's awesome. How do you sell them? Do you have much traffic? You don't have to answer if it is private. Was just wondering =)

sarettah 08-03-2022 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by caarolinee24 (Post 23028979)
That's awesome. How do you sell them? Do you have much traffic? You don't have to answer if it is private. Was just wondering =)

I have some traffic but I am not a powerhouse. There are many with much more traffic than I have.

I sell free cams, lol. I typically am not promoting any particular model. I build custom sites using the sponsor apis to push traffic to the sponsor.

I, like many here, could push some traffic directly at you if we decide it is worthwhile. hell, many of us would throw a link or 2 up just to help you out if you ask nice enough, lol.

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plsureking 08-03-2022 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by caarolinee24 (Post 23028689)
LOL. Im not promoting anyone but myself. Why would i promote someone else? What's the point :D and also that song is dope!

oldie but goodie! aint gonna lie i listened to it a few times after i posted it lol

ya i think u need some way to make money while u are offline. otherwise just get a job at a restaurant if you want to work hourly. set up a paysite for your fans.

my PornCMS is for studios and producers with bigger libraries, but i think Model Centro is a good option for cam models. they do a lot of coaching too.

:2 cents:

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caarolinee24 08-03-2022 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 23028983)
oldie but goodie! aint gonna lie i listened to it a few times after i posted it lol

ya i think u need some way to make money while u are offline. otherwise just get a job at a restaurant if you want to work hourly. set up a paysite for your fans.

my PornCMS is for studios and producers with bigger libraries, but i think Model Centro is a good option for cam models. they do a lot of coaching too.

:2 cents:

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Yep, thinking the same. Making money while sleeping is the best. Probably gonna go with onlyfans and social media. I will check that out ! Thanks for the info =)

Fenris Wolf 08-03-2022 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by caarolinee24 (Post 23028984)
Yep, thinking the same. Making money while sleeping is the best. Probably gonna go with onlyfans and social media. I will check that out ! Thanks for the info =)

Yeah, I would go with this in combination with your cam work. Open as many income streams as possible (time/mental health contraints) and then monitor your rate of return with each. When one seems to take off focus your energies on that one but make sure not to ignore the others. Have as many ancillary income streams as possible, cams, fanclubs, clip stores, premium tubes, direct donations, and so on. Once you reach a certain level then automate and scale.

fuzebox 08-04-2022 12:00 AM

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

You deserve all the success you have.

k0nr4d 08-04-2022 12:11 AM

I'm not sure if this was brought up, but what time of day are you broadcasting? because if it's middle of the night in the US...

Secondly, you cannot look bored at any given time. If you have 4 people in your room, and the 5th, 6th, and 7th one comes in and sees you looking at your phone and picking your nose none of them is going to stick around and you will never get more people. If you are streaming you must always be doing something, dancing around etc. These people are not in touch with each other, they are not going to 'organize' and sit there and wait for 100 people to be in room before you start to do anything.

In addition to looking at what the girls at the top are doing right, go to the last pages and look at what the girls at the bottom are doing wrong. They are mostly all sitting there, doing nothing, fucking bored.

adultchatpay 08-04-2022 03:38 AM

I don't see a sample pic or video in her profile.
She is mostly offline as well.

caarolinee24 08-04-2022 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 23029018)
I'm not sure if this was brought up, but what time of day are you broadcasting? because if it's middle of the night in the US...

Secondly, you cannot look bored at any given time. If you have 4 people in your room, and the 5th, 6th, and 7th one comes in and sees you looking at your phone and picking your nose none of them is going to stick around and you will never get more people. If you are streaming you must always be doing something, dancing around etc. These people are not in touch with each other, they are not going to 'organize' and sit there and wait for 100 people to be in room before you start to do anything.

In addition to looking at what the girls at the top are doing right, go to the last pages and look at what the girls at the bottom are doing wrong. They are mostly all sitting there, doing nothing, fucking bored.

Didn't i mentioned above that i tried multiple times, lot's of different positions, i was dancing as well for about 4-5 hours. I was actually fingering myself for about 2-3 hours. Nothing works. I guess you aren't model to know how this works. There is a thing in chaturbate, very corrupted. CB ranks models as of their choosing, also 50 % (if not even more) of the models are using automated bots to rank. Why do you look on back pages to see models? See on 1st page. Most of them are like me, standing around with a phone in their hand, having 5000 viewers... And of course some of them are very happy because, how couldn't you be happy and entertain with lots of people in your room? Everybody chats, you have tippers, you have guys to make you laugh. I got fucking no one. And that's been around 4-5 years. And i repeat myself here again... I have done anything to gain traffic. Nothing works. If you don't believe me, go ahead search models on back pages, they are like hundreds of them with good quality cam and doing free stuff and still have 10 to 30 viewers which most of them are anonymous. I came to this forum for help, not critizism. Sorry if i offended you somehow.

caarolinee24 08-04-2022 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by adultchatpay (Post 23029062)
I don't see a sample pic or video in her profile.
She is mostly offline as well.

I am online at 1:00 am CEST timezone. Currently living in spain. Until 6 or 7 am. I do have 1 video in my profile, but i will add photos as well. Before 2 years ago i had videos, and like 50 photos in my profile. Didn't helped much. Actually didn't helped at all.

caarolinee24 08-04-2022 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 23029017)
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

You deserve all the success you have.

I guess so. Thanks for the sarcasm. :thumbsup

caarolinee24 08-04-2022 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Fenris Wolf (Post 23028985)
Yeah, I would go with this in combination with your cam work. Open as many income streams as possible (time/mental health contraints) and then monitor your rate of return with each. When one seems to take off focus your energies on that one but make sure not to ignore the others. Have as many ancillary income streams as possible, cams, fanclubs, clip stores, premium tubes, direct donations, and so on. Once you reach a certain level then automate and scale.

Very good advice! Thanks :3

k0nr4d 08-04-2022 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by caarolinee24 (Post 23029245)
I came to this forum for help, not critizism.

Sometimes helping involves criticizing... it is more likely that your issue stems from something you are doing (or something you are not doing) rather then a massive conspiracy by chaturbate to keep you from making money.

caarolinee24 08-04-2022 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 23029259)
Sometimes helping involves criticizing... it is more likely that your issue stems from something you are doing (or something you are not doing) rather then a massive conspiracy by chaturbate to keep you from making money.

It's not conspiracy. It's called algorithm. But yeah maybe i should try something new. Who knows after all those years i might get lucky

blackmonsters 08-04-2022 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by caarolinee24 (Post 23028680)
Who is NatalieK?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKFxu6F3ZXA



:1orglaugh

caarolinee24 08-04-2022 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 23029394)

LOL xD hahah nice one

rocky1234 08-04-2022 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by caarolinee24 (Post 23028961)
I accepted your request. How do i pm you?

I tried to PM you but it says this:

caarolinee24 has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her.

So I think you have "private messaging" disabled in your profile. I think you have to enable that

Try going to your User Control Panel: https://gfy.com/profile.php?do=editoptions In the Messaging & Notification section, in the Private Messaging subsection, make sure that "Enable Private Messaging" has a check in the box. Then click "Save Changes" button at the bottom of the page.

Once you do that, send me a PM to let me know.

Sending a PM is easy. Go to my profile: https://gfy.com/members/rocky1234/ click on the "Contact Info" tab and then click the "Send a private message to rocky1234" link.

Hope this helps.

Fenris Wolf 08-04-2022 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by caarolinee24 (Post 23029255)
Very good advice! Thanks :3

I forgot to mention creating your social media presence:

Adult Friendly
Reddit
Twitter

Non Friendly
Instagram
Tik Tok
Facebook

Follow guidelines set out with each platform to avoid being outright banned or possibly shadowbanned.

Each is unique in it's own way so a little research will go a long way in helping build your followers.

caarolinee24 08-04-2022 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by rocky1234 (Post 23029502)
I tried to PM you but it says this:

caarolinee24 has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her.

So I think you have "private messaging" disabled in your profile. I think you have to enable that

Try going to your User Control Panel: https://gfy.com/profile.php?do=editoptions In the Messaging & Notification section, in the Private Messaging subsection, make sure that "Enable Private Messaging" has a check in the box. Then click "Save Changes" button at the bottom of the page.

Once you do that, send me a PM to let me know.

Sending a PM is easy. Go to my profile: https://gfy.com/members/rocky1234/ click on the "Contact Info" tab and then click the "Send a private message to rocky1234" link.

Hope this helps.

Hey there! I do not have this option neither the option to pm you. https://prnt.sc/AxI9fng5I-hO
But you can add me on skype: live:.cid.1c241bfda7ba5f23

caarolinee24 08-04-2022 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Fenris Wolf (Post 23029519)
I forgot to mention creating your social media presence:

Adult Friendly
Reddit
Twitter

Non Friendly
Instagram
Tik Tok
Facebook

Follow guidelines set out with each platform to avoid being outright banned or possibly shadowbanned.

Each is unique in it's own way so a little research will go a long way in helping build your followers.

Thanks! I will try reddit, i already have twitter i will just have evolve it =)


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