So during the whole crisis less people died in Holland of Corona under 60, than died in a traffic accident. About 600 people in 2,5 years due/with corona, in traffic accidents around 300 people under 60 got killed every year . Better watch out young people, there are cars everywhere! And masks or jabs won't help.

Masking didn't do shit in 99% of the cases. That is why Germany mandated N95 mask, that work. If you need them when young and healthy is another question. I must still wear mask when i take the bus here, while windows open and 100% uses a useless mask, including me cause i prefer breathing when it is hot. And everyone, including me, takes 12 hours flights in planes without mask. In Mexico everything was open and running.

When i was in Holland last months i spend little time in bars and restaurants. Cause i avoid going out in any restaurant that worked with a QR Code in Holland (that didn't work either, only forcing people taking shots). Many now in financial problems and depending on government help. They got what they voted for.

Still many vaccinazi countries; Canada, Colombia, Brazil, USA that block unvaccinated people traveling.

And now there are some mentall issues with the youth. The amount of young girls with mental problems doubled.

The Omicron was the best vaccine.

Let me know when you post that "data" you were talking about.

LOL Vive le Quebec!

Can wait for the Lib / dem to realise they have been lie to all that long. :(:(

I believe it'll take years, and some of them will never admit to being wrong. Look how deep they are, they wanted more lockdowns, forced/mandated masks, vaccines, & boosters for everyone (including children), forever, they wanted 2nd class, lower class for unvaccinated, they are literally present day nazi's, nobody wants to admit they acted like & supported nazi-like behavior. I know a handful of extremists here will support that shit til the day the die. :disgust

No amount of data, facts, will convince the selfish & ignorants.

I know I am wasting my time, because those who are into covid lockdowns are in fear, and just want to feel safe, and want to believe something that was not in fact told to them.

By this, I mean in the UK they had a lockdown after weeks of left wing loonies saying on twitter the government wanted to kill them. We were told the lockdown was to slow the spread of covid. The thick people thought this meant stopping covid completely (it was to slow it).

However the question was did it slow covid and save lives. So far little evidence shows it did.

So let us look at facts (a chap said I was talking bullsh*t).

https://i.ibb.co/K5Lfgp8/Image1.jpg

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...nsights/deaths

These stats are official UK government stats.

As we can see most deaths from/with covid were with people who had health problems.

As you can see, most were not long for the world, and any small illness would have had an impact.

https://i.ibb.co/BjjZ7s7/Image1.jpg

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...ry-2022-report

Above I posted that most people died over 70. The reply from one chap was bullsh*t. I have posted UK official government stats to back up my claim. Will he admit I was correct and he was wrong, or will he act like a flat earther and the only facts he believes are the ones he has made up in his head?

https://i.ibb.co/tHm2RKr/Image1.jpg

https://unherd.com/thepost/sweden-re...ckdown-policy/

One must remember Sweden did little and was fine.

And most people in Sweden live in a city with lots of people.

https://i.ibb.co/SQbLVL5/Image1.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-launched.html

The result of this lockdown nonsense was people could not cope and killed themselves.

So we shut the UK down to try to save elderly people who were going to die due to health problems, and instead we ended up killing young people.

Not to mention the mental health problems people will have from the lockdowns.

Many people now will and have died from such as cancer as they were not seen by doctors during the lockdown.

Many elderly died upset from not seeing family for months.

So remind me again, why those who are pro lockdown are the kind ones? As I consider what they did pure evil.

https://i.ibb.co/FW9kc3T/nnn.jpg

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...-people-covid/

https://i.ibb.co/THzsphy/nnn.jpg

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2022...t-covid-deaths

Again I know I am wasting my time pointing out that if you are under 70 and have no health risk, then you were and still are at almost zero risk of death.

https://i.ibb.co/dcxcdmw/nnn.jpg

https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/trans...volvingcovid19

But as I have stated, the stats in the UK are often showing death with covid, not death from covid.

This is important as it suggests death from covid are probably a lot lower.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebri...calls-27680868

https://euroweeklynews.com/2022/09/1...ring-training/

https://euroweeklynews.com/2022/09/0...-sudden-death/

We are seeing people such as footballers and so on die young.

https://i.ibb.co/Hr4y5hP/nnn2.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/XbwcmKj/nnn.jpg

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/art...ion-into-lungs

I am glad as you say I was an ass by not wearing those non medical grade masks, that have been shown to have no use.

But I am sure you feel its worth filling your lungs with plastic particles just so you could look like a good person and not upset others.

Personally I will stay an ass, and not kill myself.

I wonder how parents will cope if in a few years they find out that they forced there children to wear non medical grade masks for no reason, and now they may have breather problems and other life effecting illnesses because they have lungs full of plastic.

Still, at least they got to post pics on Instagram of themselves and children in these face nappies, in order to look like good people, so it may have been worth it.

And you're implying their deaths are somehow connected to the vaccines? With no proof whatsoever. Typical CT bullshit. Dismissed.

You still haven't posted any actual "data" dude. Tweets and articles from fake news sites don't count as data or research.

This is data:

Vaccine effectiveness of two-dose BNT162b2 against symptomatic and severe COVID-19 among adolescents in Brazil and Scotland over time: a test-negative case-control study

COVID-19 Vaccine Effectiveness Research

Jesus fucking Christ, I had to come out of GFY retirement to comment on the stupidity in this thread.

Yes, science changes based on data. A "novel" coronavirus means we've never encountered this particular coronavirus before so didn't know anything about it. As they learned, they adjusted. That's how science works and we learned this in the 3rd grade.

Now that 70% of the world is vaccinated, and damn near everyone has caught it (even if they didn't know they did), it's not as important to wear a mask or do the other covid shit. They said this early on, that was the goal for vaccination. They hit their goal. Now the message adjusts based on where we are. If pockets of infection come back, masks will be recommended in those areas in rational nations who have not politicized covid.

This shit isn't complicated. It's not a grand conspiracy.

DVtimes... you're a fucking retard. There are OVER 100 global studies now that prove mask efficacy. Masks never were supposed to "stop" the virus, they reduce the viral load, often resulting in a weaker infection. You wear a mask to reduce viral load, you infected twat. If everyone has them on, the virus spreads less with a weaker viral load. How have you made it this far in life without accidentally poking your eye out? This data can be found in seconds, all from reputable sources and much of it peer reviewed. Your posts are almost too dumb to reply to, but they were so inaccurate and ignorant that I couldn't resit.

JScott... those are not confirmed data sources. Those are opinions and data that has not been replicated. Meaning, it's not real data at this point. Several, if you Google their name, are questionable doctors. Dr. Charles Hoffe had to face a disciplinary panel for misinformation. Some others don't even practice with infectious diseases or vaccines. Look up the people you're trying to quote. We have peer reviewed studies for a reason. Science trusts the BODY OF WORK, not individual doctors who can not verify or replicate their claim. When others can replicate those claims, then it's legit. That's how it's always worked. Also, the narrative isn't imploding on masks. I stated why above.

J Falcone... Keep fighting the good fight.

I actually don't care who gets vaccinated or wears a mask, but at least don't spread nonsense about it. People like DVtimes eat that shit up because he doesn't know better. People ate veterinarian grade ivermectin to protect themselves from covid. Facebook groups were full of people shitting out their intestinal linings because of it. That's all that really needs to be said. People (especially Americans) are ignorant and gullible. Please don't feed them more garbage, because they believe it.

I didn't spell or grammar check any of this so eat a bag of dicks if something is wrong.

Ok, that's the comment.

See ya, bitches.

*fist bump*

Old School wisdom right there folks!

DWB boyzzz.

How the fuck did he come up with four years?

I meant 3 years.

Still playing the grammar/English police on GFY?

You can stop doing that. You make mistakes just like everyone else.

:thumbsup

Holy shit where the hell have you been?? Welcome back!

One thing, yes these doctors Hoffe, McCullough, Malone, Prasad, Olsson, Craig, etc have been outcast from society for their views on Covid vaccines, BUT, they are giving their recommendations based on their studies and learning experiences in the medical field. They aren't evil doctors trying to cause problems. Everything that goes against the pro-Covid pro-vaccine narrative gets shut down, from MSM, gov, society. Have you watched their interviews or seen their reports (they are VERY active)? Take a look, to me, they seem very knowledgeable and sincere on the topics, while others like Dr Wen, Dr Fauci have backpedaled or lied time after time.

Question for you DWB, from what you've said it seems like you support forced Covid vaccines, mandates? do you, or not?

The new vaccine will work!
Tested on 8 mice and all are okay.

Would you inject your cat/dog with it?

Most people are not at risk of severe problems from Covid, so hell no, would not inject anyone with it unless they're high risk. Can't believe the hysteria is still here.

Please provide a link to one article stat says non medical masks protect the person wearing them.

I stated medical masks (n95 and better still n99), but the non medical have no use as studies have shown (faps on sides, not sit correctly and not fine enough material).

https://www.consultant360.com/exclus...earer-covid-19

Masks Do Not Protect Wearer From COVID-19

https://www.consultant360.com/exclus...earer-covid-19

The C.D.C. concedes that cloth masks do not protect against the virus as effectively as other masks.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/14/h...covid-cdc.html

Cloth Masks Don't Cut It for Keeping COVID Away

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-n...ing-covid-away

CDC Updates Mask Guidelines - Cloth Masks Least Effective

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2022...east-effective

Should young children be made to wear face masks?

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/2...young-children

Feel free to post evidence to prove me wrong,

Notice I have provided links to back up my claims, and my links are mostly UK government websites.

So feel free to post links to articles that claim non medical face masks are 100% effective.

High viral load is very unlikely to be got outside or in a shop. It tends to be in a hospital were you have lots of very ill people with covid. In such case your system can overload. It is why in hospitals staff wear correctly fitted medical grade masks (n95 or better n99).

Unmasked: The Global Failure of COVID Mask Mandates

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....4,203,200_.jpg

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57636360

Non medical face masks do not protect you (from the BBC).

So I guess the BBC is full of stupid people too.

As I say, I welcome the 100 links to articles that you claim show non medical face masks are 100% effective.

I ask, as I have been asking clever clogs for years to provide evidence.

All they do is say because they believe it, that is fact, then call me stupid (even though I provide links to everything I say).

Or better still they then admit I am 100% correct, but then say it is still worth wearing a non medical grade mask, even if it only provides 1% protection. Can you imagine people told by some clever clogs to wear a condom that is only 1% effective.

You see, people are so desperate to believe, that they now defend rubbish.

It is fear.

I still see even today the fear. I still see people drive in a car on there own wearing non medical grade masks, or even walking in a park wearing non medical grade masks.

The same people told me I would be dead by now, for not wearing a mask. I am still alive.

The hypocrites who tell us to wear masks, are often the same ones who pretended to care about the environment.

Now we have mask pollution, and how many have ended up in the sea?

I guess sod all the children to come who will find plastic particles in water they drink, as long as a few left wing middle class people felt protected wearing non medical grade mask, just in case they got covid, and ended up feeling yuck for a day.

The comical thing about this, is for most people (almost every healthy person under 70), covid systems are no more than a cold.

In fact I am getting angry again, when smart gits keep telling us to hide from something that is no more than a cold.

I am angry as people killed themselves.

I am angry as people died from not getting cancer treatment.

I am angry as children missed out on school.

I am angry as businesses went bust and people lots jobs.

I am angry as people reported others for having a walk more than 2 mins.

I am angry as old people died after not seeing family for months.

All for a cold.

and then we still have these sick disgusting people still telling us to live in fear and have no life and wear masks. And apparently I am the stupid one who does not care about people.

No sir.

I will not bend to the will of cowards, who wish to live in fear.

No sir.

I will not stand by seeing business close, people die of cancer, children messed up.

But if you want to live in fear, that is fine.

You sit in your house with non medical grade masks on.

But do not demand that I share your fear.

All I can say is, it is a shame for you USSR no longer exists, as that would have been the place for you.

They're not evil doctors. It's everyone else who is evil and out to get them because they go against The Plan. And you know this because a few tweets, right?

You should read Foucault's Pendulum By Umberto Eco. It's a great novel about how normal people get sucked into believing outrageous conspiracy theories.



From the video:

"Foucault's Pendulum raises questions about hidden plots that most thematically similar works don't go anywhere near. It is less concerned about any specific hidden plots themselves than the ALLURE of hidden plots. Eco says that these theories exist as of a way of explaining mysterious phenomena in an outlandish way as a coping mechanism for an individual's inability to understand them, due to lack of intelligence or otherwise."

The underlying themes in this novel are OBSESSION and PARANOIA.

It captures perfectly the mindset of the conspiracy theorist. Eco saw these types of armchair experts surface back in the 1980's, but today, with the internet and mass spread of misinformation, it's been taken to a whole new level.

I can't be bothered to try to convince you of anything at this point.

^^ This is how brainwashed look like ? :upsidedow