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DWB 09-18-2022 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by jscott (Post 23043883)
Holy shit where the hell have you been?? Welcome back!

WASSSSUPPPPPPPPP! Hope you're well, dude.


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Originally Posted by jscott (Post 23043883)
One thing, yes these doctors Hoffe, McCullough, Malone, Prasad, Olsson, Craig, etc have been outcast from society for their views on Covid vaccines, BUT, they are giving their recommendations based on their studies and learning experiences in the medical field.

Here's the problem, no one can replicate anything they claim to be true. What we then have are individual people making claims with no way to confirm their claim's validity. That's how medicine and science works, it needs to be able to be replicated. If they did that, they wouldn't be labeled as spreaders of misinformation. But because they fly solo on these often outlandish claims, they get the stick. You can't make claims that you can't back up and share with others so they can run the same tests.

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Originally Posted by jscott (Post 23043883)
Everything that goes against the pro-Covid pro-vaccine narrative gets shut down, from MSM, gov, society. Have you watched their interviews or seen their reports (they are VERY active)? Take a look, to me, they seem very knowledgeable and sincere on the topics, while others like Dr Wen,

That's not correct. Anything that can't be proven, which is usually due to a lack of evidence, gets shot down. Malone can make claims all day, but he can't back them up in any manner that his peers can replicate or confirm. Thus the issue.

Being sincere is one thing, backing up your claims is another.

All of the social media platforms had to bring on teams of medical professionals to identity misinformation because there was so much of it. It was all based on the provable science. Claims alone would often (and still do) get suppressed or removed.

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Originally Posted by jscott (Post 23043883)
Dr Fauci have backpedaled or lied time after time.

The CDC, WHO, world governments, and Fauci totally bungled the messaging on everything. The virus, masks, the vaccines, they fucked up the messaging on them every step of the way, and continue to do so.

That said, saying "Fauci lies" isn't exactly accurate. What he did many times is update his stance based on new information. However, he did bungle a few things in regards to not commenting to his message due to obvious political pressure that has been reported many times. He should have been firm at all times, but he wasn't and people translated that as being a liar and changing his "story."

Using his original message about masks for example. He said they were not necessary for the general public early on. He said that at a time when they didn't yet know that the virus could be spread through asymptomatic spread. Keep in mind, at that point, China wasn't sharing info with anyone about what had just happened there so every nation was on their own to figure out what was going on. As soon as they realized it was spreading through asymptomatic carriers, that is when the mask message went full steam. The information changed based on knowledge.

That said, they still completely ruined the messaging and countless people suffered because of the poor messaging.

Then the fucking President pushed anti-mask messaging and that created chaos. He downplayed Covid almost the entire time, even when he caught it. Suddenly it was all political and masks were a form of suppression. If I had to point the finger at one person in the USA for messing things up, I'd start there and work my way down. The POTUS needs to lead by example, not divide the nation and suggest injecting bleach.

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Originally Posted by jscott (Post 23043883)
Question for you DWB, from what you've said it seems like you support forced Covid vaccines, mandates? do you, or not?

I believe everyone should have a choice. But that also means, business owners have a choice to decide who they want to cater to. Nations should also have a choice on who they let in. Freedom of choice works both ways.

If I own a business, I should not be forced to allow non-vaccinated in (if I don't want to), any more than you should not be forced to take the vaccine.

I'm pro mask because I understand the nuance of how they work. It's the bare minimum we can do to reduce spread and viral load. Plus, it's really no big deal at all to put one on when I go out in public. We have to wear shoes and clothes, a mask never bothered me for a second. Even if me wearing one makes other people feel comfortable, I'm happy to wear it.

I think the jury is still out on the effectiveness of lock downs. There's a lot of mixed information out there that varies from community to community. It seems to have worked well in some areas and not so well in others. I wouldn't be surprised if we hear down the road that the only successful lock down is a hardcore lock down, and half assing it didn't help. Home spread was and is a real issue with it.

Remember when China was welding people into their apartments? That worked. lol They didn't half ass it at all and lived their best lives for two years (while the world was shut down) until covid was eventually imported. Now, as you probably are well aware, it's whack-a-mole with lockdowns there.

All of that said, I've been fucking 3rd world whores and ladyboys in the ass for 20 years. Getting vaccinated wasn't even something I had to think about, shoot me up. :-)

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Originally Posted by jscott (Post 23043894)
Most people are not at risk of severe problems from Covid, so hell no, would not inject anyone with it unless they're high risk. Can't believe the hysteria is still here.

It almost killed me. No commodities. I then had devastating long covid symptoms that lasted for a year. I caught it before the vaccines rolled out. Perhaps if my original infection came after I was vaccinated, it wouldn't have been so bad. At least that's what they say. I'll never know.

Anyway, good to see you're still with us.

DWB 09-18-2022 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 23043966)

Just a note about that guy. He had to leave Fox News after he stole millions from investors, then fled to Portugal where he still lives today. He's a literally a criminal and sensationalist and is really good and rewording things to sound 100x worse than they are. Most of what he says is waaaaay off due to how he twists stories for views.

Regarding the video content here, it was expected to have some lawsuits from vaccines. That's why the vaccine companies are not being held responsible, it was expected and they wouldn't make them otherwise. This isn't surprising at all to anyone with an IQ higher than an slug. 70% of the world received some form of vaccine, there were going to be some people who had problems with it. Many vaccines, if not all of them, have been through some sort of legal drama due to this.

DWB 09-18-2022 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 23043910)
The C.D.C. concedes that cloth masks do not protect against the virus as effectively as other masks.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/14/h...covid-cdc.html

You keep posting about cloth masks. Don't wear a cloth mask, you imbecile.

K95 or N95 masks are what you should be wearing. They've been telling you this for two years.

DWB 09-18-2022 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 23043831)
Old School wisdom right there folks!

DWB boyzzz.

Hey dude, hope you're well.

DWB 09-18-2022 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 23043921)
But if you want to live in fear, that is fine.

You know who lives in fear?

People who are immunocompromised. People who are battling cancer. The elderly. People with HIV/AIDS. People who live with someone who is at risk. People who work with someone at risk. People who can't afford to take a single day off work if they catch covid. Parents with sick children. The list is long.

They all live in fear of asshats like you. Asshats who still don't understand how a mask is helpful, and won't even do the bare minimum to help keep societies most vulnerable a little safer.

Brian mike 09-18-2022 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 23044001)
They all live in fear of asshats like you. Asshats who still don't understand how a mask is helpful, and won't even do the bare minimum to help keep societies most vulnerable a little safer.

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 23043991)
I believe everyone should have a choice. But that also means, business owners have a choice to decide who they want to cater to. Nations should also have a choice on who they let in. Freedom of choice works both ways.

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DVTimes 09-18-2022 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 23043982)
I can't be bothered to try to convince you of anything at this point.


Sir, you said you had over 100 studies to prove me wrong.

I think what you mean is you could not find any and you now look like a fool, so rather than being the bigger person and admit I am correct, you run away and say you cannot be bothered.

I think we can leave it up to the good readers on this site to judge your reply.

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 23043771)

DVtimes... you're a fucking retard. There are OVER 100 global studies now that prove mask efficacy..

A quote from mrs thatcher:

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I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left.

DVTimes 09-18-2022 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 23044001)
You know who lives in fear?

People who are immunocompromised. People who are battling cancer. The elderly. People with HIV/AIDS. People who live with someone who is at risk. People who work with someone at risk. People who can't afford to take a single day off work if they catch covid. Parents with sick children. The list is long.

They all live in fear of asshats like you. Asshats who still don't understand how a mask is helpful, and won't even do the bare minimum to help keep societies most vulnerable a little safer.


Correct

You protect those who are vulnerable, and in doing so you have no need to protect others who are young and healthy.

In fact if all the young healthy people got covid, then they have the antibodies and are less (almost impossible) to pass it on to others. Thus the vulnerable are more protected, are they not?

However during the lockdown a few very elderly people asked me to take them out for days. They were at high risk, but considered it far worse to stay inside locked away for weeks.

Most got it and were very ill, but they said they did not regret it.worse to not go out than to live.

In the UK I believe no healthy child died, and it was about ten who had health problems. If you look above I posted death numbers in children, so can you stop spreading scare stories that children will die of covid.

DVTimes 09-18-2022 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 23044001)
People with HIV/AIDS.

If I remember, people with aids were not at risk.

I could be wrong on that and will look to see.

On this you may be correct, and unlike you, I will be big enough to admit when I am wrong and others are correct.

I do hope I am wrong, as it would be a nice experience, as I have never experienced being wrong before.

DVTimes 09-18-2022 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 23043995)
You keep posting about cloth masks. Don't wear a cloth mask, you imbecile.

K95 or N95 masks are what you should be wearing. They've been telling you this for two years.

I am confused.

I have only ever stated non medical grade masks do not work, and I have always stated n95 or n99 work.

Yet you stated I was wrong about masks.

Are you saying I am correct now and what you posted about me was wrong?

Perhaps this is what happens when you get the vaccine. Your mind has a different opinion every five minutes.

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 23043771)
DVtimes... you're a fucking retard. There are OVER 100 global studies now that prove mask efficacy. Masks never were supposed to "stop" the virus, they reduce the viral load, often resulting in a weaker infection. You wear a mask to reduce viral load, you infected twat. If everyone has them on, the virus spreads less with a weaker viral load. How have you made it this far in life without accidentally poking your eye out? This data can be found in seconds, all from reputable sources and much of it peer reviewed. Your posts are almost too dumb to reply to, but they were so inaccurate and ignorant that I couldn't resit.

So you did believe non medical grade masks worked and lots of studies existed, but not you do not?

I sure am glad I did not take the vaccine if it confuses you this way.

DVTimes 09-18-2022 12:01 PM

Indeed, it does look like if you have HIV with a weak immune system your more at risk.


https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/corona...m-coronavirus/

You or your child may continue to be at high risk of getting seriously ill from COVID-19, despite vaccination, if you have:
  • Down's syndrome
  • certain types of cancer (such as a blood cancer like leukaemia or lymphoma)
  • sickle cell disease
  • certain conditions affecting your blood
  • chronic kidney disease (CKD) stage 4 or 5
  • severe liver disease
  • had an organ or bone marrow transplant
  • certain autoimmune or inflammatory conditions (such as rheumatoid arthritis or inflammatory bowel disease)
  • HIV or AIDS and have a weakened immune system
  • a condition affecting your immune system
  • a rare condition affecting the brain or nerves (multiple sclerosis, motor neurone disease, Huntington’s disease or myasthenia gravis)
  • a severe problem with the brain or nerves, such as cerebral palsy
  • severe or multiple learning disabilities (or you're on the learning disability register)
  • a weakened immune system due to a medical treatment (such as steroid medicine, biological therapy, chemotherapy or radiotherapy)

DVTimes 09-18-2022 12:07 PM

I have no problem with those who have health problems to be protected, as long as they choose to.

As we know, many chose to not live in fear, and went out.

However, this does not explain the logic of healthy people being made to stay inside.

The funny thing was, the woods near e you normally see one person every hour. During the lockdown the woods were packed.

DVTimes 09-18-2022 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 23043995)

K95 or N95 masks are what you should be wearing. They've been telling you this for two years.

In the UK they told us not to buy them as the NHS staff needed them.

In fact at the start they said do not wear masks, as they are no use to the public (doctors told us that). They said the only people who should wear masks are medical staff.

It was only when the government's came out with the idea (probably just to be seen to be doing something, even if it had no use) then they had to say its government advice to wear them. Most never said it was there advice as they knew they had no use and could be sued. So often they would say government recommendation.

If you remember WHO had to change its site from be against mask to its government advice.

J. Falcon 09-18-2022 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 23044026)
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Your smartest post yet in this thread.

DVTimes 09-18-2022 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 23043991)

I believe everyone should have a choice. But that also means, business owners have a choice to decide who they want to cater to.

In the UK it is against the disability act as people cannot wear them for certain medical conditions, mental health conditions, and rape victims can find huge trauma wearing them.

So if you are saying you believe a business can choose to serve customers or not with a disability, do you believe they have the right to only serve white customers?

Or how about only male customers?

Or refuse to serve a gay customer?

It may be in the USA you have the right to discriminate against people, but you do not in the UK.

DVTimes 09-18-2022 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 23044001)

They all live in fear of asshats like you. Asshats who still don't understand how a mask is helpful, and won't even do the bare minimum to help keep societies most vulnerable a little safer.

Can you provide evidence they live in fear of me and explain why.

I thought you stated i was correct about non medica masks not being any use?

Are you saying now you believe non medical masks are some use or not?

Again, is this a symptom of the vaccine to flip flop on your belief's?

But please explain why they are in fear of me.

During the lockdown I went out every day. I drove 20 miles to walk the dogs in a lovely park (the chap in charge gave me the keys to the car park). I never met a single person.

Over the months the only person I met was my mate,

I would shop for food, but used self service.

So feel free to explain how I put people at risk?

In fact, if people chose to isolate, presumably if the rest of the world did not, they were at no greater risk?

But sir, clearly your smarter than me, so feel free to explain how I put someone at risk who I never meet. Perhaps we can spread covid via a distance of serval miles and through brick walls. Perhaps it can spread many miles, so if I go out in the UK I may be putting someone at risk in the USA. But I am a bit thick, so I do not understand how if I have covid I may be putting someone at risk many miles away.

DVTimes 09-18-2022 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 23044001)
asshats like you.


A quote from mrs thatcher:


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I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left.

DVTimes 09-18-2022 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 23044001)
They all live in fear of asshats like you. Asshats who still don't understand how a mask is helpful, and won't even do the bare minimum to help keep societies most vulnerable a little safer.


I have looked online and could not find a single person living in fear of me.

I am sure you will provide evidence, otherwise the good readers of this site may presume you make everything up with no evidence.

Rather than making yourself look a fool and someone who lies, i know you will be posting evidence to back up your claim that people live in fear of me.

Just to be clear, even though you stated 100 cases to show non medical masks work, you have problems posting them, and you also now believe they do not work? You must forgive me as your flip flop debate is confusing. Again is is a symptom of the vaccine or something?

Anyway, I look forward to your evidence of people living in fear of me.

I feel dreadful these people fear me, as until you had pointed this out just now, I did not know.

I d hope its not many people.

Anyway, we will find out when you post the evidence to back up your claim, as I know you are not simply making up any rubbish in your head and claiming them to be facts.

J. Falcon 09-18-2022 02:52 PM

Damn dude, can't you keep your lunatic rants to one single post?
Holy shit.

DVTimes 09-18-2022 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 23044157)
Damn dude, can't you keep your lunatic rants to one single post?
Holy shit.

You mean my posts that I provide evidence to, as in UK government websites.

I guess when you cannot prove me wrong, all your left with is to insult me.

A quote from mrs thatcher:


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I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left.

jscott 09-18-2022 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 23044157)
Damn dude, can't you keep your lunatic rants to one single post?
Holy shit.

You're using that "reason with a cult" thread as a daily updated tube.


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