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k0nr4d 10-02-2024 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by dUbster (Post 23082841)
What if you're running a cam aggregator such as https://cams.mechbunnydemo.com/
Can cam models strike you with DMCA even though you are just using the chaturbate API and don't have any images stored on your server? can these be ignored?

I get these DMCA bots on that demo site, too. We don't even host the images... I used to reply back explaining but never got anything back from them, so now I just ignore it. Models hire these stupid companies with these shit bots, the bots run their course and then they come back to the model with what a great success the campaign was and how they sent x takedown requests and that they should totally use them regularly.

Captcha 10-02-2024 02:35 AM

If its ilegal, counter all them

k0nr4d 10-02-2024 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Captcha (Post 23309964)
If its ilegal, counter all them

It's cheaper and exactly as effective to ignore them. Their goal is to just present a nice report to the model that was stupid enough to hire them.

Matyko 10-02-2024 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 23309948)
I get these DMCA bots on that demo site, too. We don't even host the images... I used to reply back explaining but never got anything back from them, so now I just ignore it. Models hire these stupid companies with these shit bots, the bots run their course and then they come back to the model with what a great success the campaign was and how they sent x takedown requests and that they should totally use them regularly.

Very smart and true summary. :2 cents:

Captcha 10-02-2024 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 23309971)
It's cheaper and exactly as effective to ignore them. Their goal is to just present a nice report to the model that was stupid enough to hire them.

It's not that simple... for real sites, you lose SE clicks

LouiseLloyd 10-02-2024 07:49 AM

If every affiliate, or third party recipient of such notices sent one back to the sender, it would only be a matter of time, predictably a short one, before they would value the importance of issuing concise claims.

mechanicvirus 10-02-2024 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by LouiseLloyd (Post 23310001)
If every affiliate, or third party recipient of such notices sent one back to the sender, it would only be a matter of time, predictably a short one, before they would value the importance of issuing concise claims.

Just send the DMCA company an invoice. When said invoice is not paid within 60-90 days, you send it to collections.

Pryda 10-03-2024 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by LouiseLloyd (Post 23310001)
If every affiliate, or third party recipient of such notices sent one back to the sender, it would only be a matter of time, predictably a short one, before they would value the importance of issuing concise claims.

I don't think it will help. Most replies we send are ignored, especially with Rulta and Onsist.

RyuLion 10-03-2024 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Pryda (Post 23310236)
I don't think it will help. Most replies we send are ignored, especially with Rulta and Onsist.

That sucks! :helpme

LouiseLloyd 10-03-2024 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pryda (Post 23310236)
I don't think it will help. Most replies we send are ignored, especially with Rulta and Onsist.

I'm not talking about countering but sending a similarly fraudulent DMCA notice for the sponsor to Google.

Claim the sponsors home page or model's own page who issued the claim to be infringing in hope that they either have to waste time countering, just like we do, or google de-indexes their own pages. Maybe even send one for the DMCA agency too, just for equal measure.

They'll soon realise the value of issuing concise claims and not continually wasting our time!

What goes around, comes around.

LouiseLloyd 10-03-2024 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mechanicvirus (Post 23310035)
Just send the DMCA company an invoice. When said invoice is not paid within 60-90 days, you send it to collections.

I like this idea too. Unfortunately I believe chasing debt / small claims outside of country of residency might be difficult.

mechanicvirus 10-03-2024 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by LouiseLloyd (Post 23310352)
I like this idea too. Unfortunately I believe chasing debt / small claims outside of country of residency might be difficult.

Absolutely, but the alternative is what you see in this thread. People asking what to do, letting their work get taken down because of overzealous models/DMCA agencies, and for what exactly? There's a sense of fear and anxiety surrounding all webmasters who are now having a part time job in simply countering these DMCA's.

There has been content owners who have sent invoices to DMCA companies for false filings, and surprise surprise, I was told that most of the false DMCA's stopped within a week. I'm sure more companies will pop up, but I guess my invoice generator is going to get a workout this year.


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