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MaDalton 03-18-2023 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by trevesty (Post 23111264)
Shh. It's completely free! You just need a good PC. None of that stuff that is required to actually get the most out of the software, like competent artists, a "set" of sorts, etc., matters. Why don't porn producers use this totally 100% free software to make epic porn? SMH.

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 23111265)
It's only zero cost if your time has no value - to produce something worth looking at you'll need months if not years of learning.

Or you have to pay someone who did that already.

As we say in German: "Zwei Dumme, ein Gedanke" (two idiots, one thought)

trevesty 03-18-2023 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 23111266)
As we say in German: "Zwei Dumme, ein Gedanke" (two idiots, one thought)

Yeah, it's pretty clear that neither one of them have any clue what they're talking about. Friend of mine's game studio just got funded and he's out about $400k in salaries just for Unreal artists to create models and all that.. just the salaries.

Pretty free, though. :winkwink:

MaDalton 03-18-2023 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by trevesty (Post 23111270)
Yeah, it's pretty clear that neither one of them have any clue what they're talking about. Friend of mine's game studio just got funded and he's out about $400k in salaries just for Unreal artists to create models and all that.. just the salaries.

Pretty free, though. :winkwink:

One of my ex freelance guys now works fulltime in movies, for instance on this one (among others): https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1302467..._=nv_sr_srsg_4

They did for example the scenes inside the safes with the turning cogwheels.

But sure, the studio saved big time cause Unreal is free.

:upsidedow

plsureking 03-18-2023 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by trevesty (Post 23111270)
Yeah, it's pretty clear that neither one of them have any clue what they're talking about. Friend of mine's game studio just got funded and he's out about $400k in salaries just for Unreal artists to create models and all that.. just the salaries.

Pretty free, though. :winkwink:

yea that's a good train to hop on for programmers. easy as shit work. mostly creative.

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DVTimes 03-18-2023 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 23111230)
This is completely different from what the process he’s trying to expose everyone to.

Yes, you understand.

I am probably not detailing it well.

DVTimes 03-18-2023 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 23111265)
It's only zero cost if your time has no value - to produce something worth looking at you'll need months if not years of learning.

Or you have to pay someone who did that already.

I do not think this software needs a huge amount of learning.

No more than using a film editor.

What you have said could apply to everything.

You may as well say do not shoot porn as you will need to know about lighting, sound and so on.

Did you give this advice 20 years ago to people. Do not bother to learn how to do websites as it is hard work. Did you tell the chap who set up Amazon that it is a lot of work so do not bother.

I suspect if we go back many years to the dawn of time, my ancestors were trying to make fire and invent the wheel. Yours were probably telling mine, do not bother, it is too much work.

DVTimes 03-18-2023 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by trevesty (Post 23111270)
Yeah, it's pretty clear that neither one of them have any clue what they're talking about. Friend of mine's game studio just got funded and he's out about $400k in salaries just for Unreal artists to create models and all that.. just the salaries.

Pretty free, though. :winkwink:


If you read my posts, I am not saying use computer generated people.

I am saying use this softwear to create backgrounds and so on and place people in them.

A lot of things to use are free or cheap.

It is like everything, you can go big, so you could have 30 people filming a porn film, and 10 people editing it. Or you can do it yourself.

Many people are using this softwear on there own.

Plenty of youtube vids showing the great results.

MaDalton 03-18-2023 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 23110814)
You can do all of that for sure, but so far porn companies aren't applying this technology properly at all. And to really do it right requires money and time.

The main problem with VR porn is that it is video, and the user is too limited in what he can do. He can't walk around to get a better angle or view like he wants to, and he can't get close to the action like he wants to without the image turning ugly

VR in porn is good for 3D but only when the camera(s) are close to the action. If the camera(s) are over here and the girl-girl action is happening over there, the 3D effect is minimal, and the scene in general is boring as fuck.

If you want to take advantage of the current technology, here is what you have to do.

1. Create detailed 3D Scans of your models.
2. Create performance capture of your models (faces, bodies). The more data you can create here the more shallow the Unvanny Valley will be. (Part 1)
3. Create Motion capture models of your models.
4. Pay your models for their scanning time and image rights (important!) then kick them out as you don't need them anymore. :)
5. Place the 3D models in your scenes created in Unreal. Use some AI voice generators or AI Voice-changers to make them say what you want.
6. Play with the lighting. Learn what Sub-Surface scattering or your model's skin will look like plastic. This too will help keep them out of the uncanny valley.
7. Hold on to those image rights. If those models become stars, the 3D Data you own of them will be worth alot, especially when they age.

No matter what you do, your models will still look creepy and dead, but of course technology is improving all the time.


all this has been done, it failed miserably and burnt millions.

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MaDalton 03-18-2023 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 23111280)
I do not think this software needs a huge amount of learning.

No more than using a film editor.

What you have said could apply to everything.

You may as well say do not shoot porn as you will need to know about lighting, sound and so on.

Did you give this advice 20 years ago to people. Do not bother to learn how to do websites as it is hard work. Did you tell the chap who set up Amazon that it is a lot of work so do not bother.

I suspect if we go back many years to the dawn of time, my ancestors were trying to make fire and invent the wheel. Yours were probably telling mine, do not bother, it is too much work.

With every post you make, you show how little you actually know.

And on top of that you are trying to explain something to me that is my daily business.

but then again - this is you


DVTimes 03-18-2023 05:18 AM



This chap makes a film all free. no equipment except his computer and the softwear.

DVTimes 03-18-2023 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 23111289)
With every post you make, you show how little you actually know.

And on top of that you are trying to explain something to me that is my daily business.

but then again - this is you


I love that film. It is why it is on youtube.

Sorry, if your idea is to try to silence me.

Did not work.

Again, love that vid, and it shows I am happy to take risks and experiment.

It sounds like you want to do things that we did 20 years ago because it makes you feel safe.

The more you post the more you sound like you hate change.

DVTimes 03-18-2023 05:22 AM


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DVTimes 03-18-2023 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 23111289)
With every post you make, you show how little you actually know.

And on top of that you are trying to explain something to me that is my daily business.

but then again - this is you

Well I am not sure i will take advice from someone who has a website that looks like it was made in 2001, with content that looks like was shot on a cheap mobile phone.

And before you say my sites also look naff and my content is not so hot, my reply is I do this for a hobby, and not a living.

But even my stuff i would suggest is better than the stuff you sell. Not sure if you shoot it or buy it from people, but I would not be insulting others if I was you.

And the reason I am posting this is because you have been insulting me over and over and I do not think I have ever insulted you.

So sod you, I will be as rude as you.

And I am only doing this as a one off because I fined these flame wars boring.

If you want to use this forum to insult people them people may think you are a fool and not buy from you.

Perhaps rather than posting abuse you could engage in the conversation.

Fine if this softwear is not for you, but I think others will find it a great tool.

But as I say, I would not dream of selling something as bad as this.

https://amazingcontent.com/images/fr...ex_0016_fs.jpg

Now I will ignore your abuse.

DVTimes 03-18-2023 05:35 AM


DVTimes 03-18-2023 05:36 AM


MaDalton 03-18-2023 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 23111299)
Well I am not sure i will take advice from someone who has a website that looks like it was made in 2001, with content that looks like was shot on a cheap mobile phone.

to be fair - it was made in 2006. and lots of the content was shot on cheap mobile phones

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Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 23111299)
And before you say my sites also look naff and my content is not so hot, my reply is I do this for a hobby, and not a living.

But even my stuff i would suggest is better than the stuff you sell. Not sure if you shoot it or buy it from people, but I would not be insulting others if I was you.

And the reason I am posting this is because you have been insulting me over and over and I do not think I have ever insulted you.

So sod you, I will be as rude as you.

And I am only doing this as a one off because I fined these flame wars boring.

If you want to use this forum to insult people them people may think you are a fool and not buy from you.

Perhaps rather than posting abuse you could engage in the conversation.

blabla


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Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 23111299)
Fine if this softwear is not for you, but I think others will find it a great tool.

I even told you before that I already work with it but reading is not your strong skill


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Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 23111299)
But as I say, I would not dream of selling something as bad as this.

https://amazingcontent.com/images/fr...ex_0016_fs.jpg

Now I will ignore your abuse.

I agree - the pic looks like shit. Doesn't matter though, still sells. Exactly for that reason.

DVTimes 03-18-2023 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 23111304)


I even told you before that I already work with it but reading is not your strong skill

So because the software is not for you, we are supposed to conclude that no one wants to use it.

So why are you posting still in this thread?

If I see a thread I have no interest in, I do not post in it.

It seems rather mad to post in something you have no interest in.

I am vegetarian, and so if you posted about eating meat, it would not be a thread for me.

Anyway, the thread is spoilt now. hope you are pleased.

plsureking 03-18-2023 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 23111304)
to be fair - it was made in 2006. and lots of the content was shot on cheap mobile phones

blabla

I even told you before that I already work with it but reading is not your strong skill

I agree - the pic looks like shit. Doesn't matter though, still sells. Exactly for that reason.

Yo Dalton that guy doesn't know shit. that's why i challenged him a couple dozen posts back. dont tell real and successful producers how to produce when you dont produce shit. i know a lot guys making money online with libraries shot 1-2-3 decades ago..

its an interesting tech discussion tho.. i'm pushing my kid towards unity dev...

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DVTimes 03-18-2023 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 23111327)
Yo Dalton that guy doesn't know shit. that's why i challenged him a couple dozen posts back. dont tell real and successful producers how to produce when you dont produce shit. i know a lot guys making money online with libraries shot 1-2-3 decades ago..

its an interesting tech discussion tho.. i'm pushing my kid towards unity dev...

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You challenged me by asking if I made content.

If you notice I made a reply.

I stated you can see the stuff I have shot now and years ago on: https://www.holedex.com/

fuzebox 03-18-2023 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 23111299)
I do this for a hobby, and not a living.

Shocker. :1orglaugh

DVTimes 03-18-2023 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 23111338)
Shocker. :1orglaugh

Wow

That was a smart reply.

Did you use chat ai to come up with your great reply?

Also what is your reply supposed to achieve except mess the thread up.

I guess we should just insult each other rather than talk about porn or tools to create porn.

pornmasta 03-18-2023 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 23111295)

Now a question:
5 hours of tutorial.
5 hours of filming.

What is the less ressources consuming ?

pornmasta 03-18-2023 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 23111309)
So because the software is not for you, we are supposed to conclude that no one wants to use it.

Please tell us what you suggest to do and please assess if it is economically interesting.
Madalton says it's not and that he tried in the past.

sarettah 03-18-2023 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 23111293)
Again, love that vid, and it shows I am happy to take risks and experiment.

actually it shows that you are a creepy lunatic but you can look at it however you want.

.

the_software_dev 03-18-2023 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 23110813)
Um, nope! Unreal 5 is completely free. You can download it and start using it for zero cost.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.. I know Unreal is free (ish). What I meant is that learning Unreal takes a lot of time (which translates in high prices for hiring devs). And this can't really be compared to AI (as in the OP post), since AI requires a good prompt to generate decent images in a few seconds. If you want quality ofc AI is still not there when compared to Unreal with experienced devs, but Unreal is also far away in terms of costs.

pornmasta 03-18-2023 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by the_software_dev (Post 23111540)
Sorry for the misunderstanding.. I know Unreal is free (ish). What I meant is that learning Unreal takes a lot of time (which translates in high prices for hiring devs). And this can't really be compared to AI (as in the OP post), since AI requires a good prompt to generate decent images in a few seconds. If you want quality ofc AI is still not there when compared to Unreal with experienced devs, but Unreal is also far away in terms of costs.

We shouldn't speak now.
There are people making 3d objects from prompts.
It's just may be a matter of time before we can generate this kind of content at lower costs

the_software_dev 03-18-2023 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 23111546)
We shouldn't speak now.
There are people making 3d objects from prompts.
It's just may be a matter of time before we can generate this kind of content at lower costs

Sure. And there's also people working on generating entire movies out of prompts. Not quite there yet, but it's coming for sure.

DVTimes 03-18-2023 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 23111537)
actually it shows that you are a creepy lunatic but you can look at it however you want.

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Does it?

I tell you what people may find creepy and that is a chap posting on a forum pretending to be female.

No, that is not creepy, that is messed up.

DVTimes 03-18-2023 04:31 PM

Look folks, do not use it if you do not want to.

I know one website that is and from what I gather they could be now making more than most porn pay sites.

I will just get on with things my way.

Clearly most of you just want to carry on as if it is 2005.

Have a good day folks.

I will just email the TV and films firms they are morons and you lot are all correct.

sarettah 03-18-2023 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 23111549)
I tell you what people may find creepy and that is a chap posting on a forum pretending to be female

make that an obsessed, creepy, lunatic

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DVTimes 03-18-2023 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 23111555)
make that an obsessed, creepy, lunatic

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Is that how you view yourself?

Colmike9 03-18-2023 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 23111549)
Does it?

I tell you what people may find creepy and that is a chap posting on a forum pretending to be female.

No, that is not creepy, that is messed up.

Sarettah ≠ Sarah

lol

Idigmygirls 03-18-2023 06:22 PM

Give me a couple more months. I've already put $40MM into this and it's launching later this year. I haven't wanted to discuss it yet because obviously we're not quite finished...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buCc8wCK7as

plsureking 03-18-2023 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Idigmygirls (Post 23111590)
Give me a couple more months. I've already put $40MM into this and it's launching later this year. I haven't wanted to discuss it yet because obviously we're not quite finished...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buCc8wCK7as

looks great!

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AmeliaG 03-19-2023 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Idigmygirls (Post 23111590)
Give me a couple more months. I've already put $40MM into this and it's launching later this year. I haven't wanted to discuss it yet because obviously we're not quite finished...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buCc8wCK7as


I'd love this thread to be more of this and less dudes criticizing one another's photography in non-constructive ways.

I think a lot of GFYers do talk about Unreal and other new tech.

The willingness to try new ways of doing things is one of my very favorite things about this industry.

DVTimes 03-19-2023 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Idigmygirls (Post 23111590)
Give me a couple more months. I've already put $40MM into this and it's launching later this year. I haven't wanted to discuss it yet because obviously we're not quite finished...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buCc8wCK7as

It is age set.

Silly youtube does not let you use a debit card for ID.

DVTimes 03-19-2023 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 23111653)
I'd love this thread to be more of this and less dudes criticizing one another's photography in non-constructive ways.

I think a lot of GFYers do talk about Unreal and other new tech.

The willingness to try new ways of doing things is one of my very favorite things about this industry.

Yes

Agreed.


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