Exercise caution. If things take a wrong turn, you may end up footing a huge legal bill. It appears your prior success hinged on the presence of a cool ass judge who granted an atypical order, an act most other members of the judiciary might be reluctant to emulate.

The defendants you encountered were blatantly involved in piracy, and their failure to appear in court resulted in your swift default victory. However, should they choose to defend themselves in the future, the costs associated with legal proceedings may rise sharply. Voluntarily dismissing the case might seem an appealing option if the duration or cost begins to strain your resources, but the situation could quickly worsen.

In the event a defendant lodges a counterclaim, your involvement in the proceedings would dramatically evolve, converting you into a counter-defendant. Such a scenario could potentially trigger a default judgment against you if you decide not to actively pursue the litigation. This could trap you in expensive legal proceedings, especially in copyright cases, these costs can easily exceed $250,000.

If the defendants secure a victory, they might be entitled to have their attorney's fees covered, and could potentially receive damages. On the flip side, even if you win, you may find it difficult, if not impossible, to recover anything from them.

Your recent victory may have bolstered your enthusiasm, but the law is not a tool for personal revenge. The potential repercussions for abusing it are serious and severe. The consequences can be harsh and brutal. The excitement and cheering here, encouraging you to pull off more entertaining stunts and accumulate more internet points, could land you in legal trouble. Therefore, I suggest that you act wisely

thanks for this geez I see my movies there

Let's do a quick Skype meeting Brand.

@all, Hi, yes dmcaforce.com logs a Litigation Report in your account with data.
Example:
Total # of sites not responding to 3rd notices:
Total # of infringing links:

Good luck getting all of them...

Hehe looks like some of these tubes you listed here are feeling the heat and trying to make you back off. The "if you lose it could cost you big time" argument is often used to deter any legitimate legal action.

What would the counter-claims be, btw? "Hey Your Honor this guy is making it harder for us to profit off our illegal activities!"? LOL

Make sure you are on firm legal ground and then proceed. I work 100% with legal tubes who are registered affiliates of mine so if the illegal tubes are brought down (or under control) then it can only mean higher profits for Producers and legit tube owners.

I appreciate your passion, and I assure you, my disdain for piracy is as fervent as yours. I have assisted many in battling against it.

However, your comment suggests you might not fully grasp how the legal system operates in the United States. Litigation is not about taking a broad view and assessing whether a situation generally seems fair or not. It's composed of numerous intricate parts, each of which is scrutinized in a mostly isolated context to minimize bias.

To provide a stark illustration: Consider a scenario where a man commits rape and a week prior to the incident, the woman who becomes his victim had stolen his watch, leading to his arrest. The law identifies two separate crimes here, rape, a heinous crime with severe penalties, and theft, which, although lesser in magnitude, is still a criminal act that warrants prosecution. The court won't say, 'Well, you raped this person, so we can overlook their theft of your watch.' Each offense is independently evaluated to ensure justice is served.

A litigation process is complex, and a defendant may identify grounds for a counterclaim in the course of motion practice. For instance, let's say you forget to serve them properly. They can counterclaim that their defense was compromised due to improper service, causing them to lose investors due to the complaint. They might argue that the case could have been resolved quickly if they'd been appropriately informed. Here, we have a counterclaim that requires legal representation to handle—increasing the cost of litigation.

I'm not concerned with this one bit. They are guilty and there's no argument, period. I would actually love to have one of these tube owners fight the case. That way they would have to identify themselves and these cowards wouldn't do that. I shut down some big tubes. Isn't it strange that not one of them fought the case?

I'm surprised you would see this as "revenge". If someone was stealing money out of your bank account and you wanted that stopped, would that be considered revenge?

My goal isn't to seek financial compensation. Theses tube owners are typically broke and making pennies off stolen porn. My goal is to stop them from capitalizing off my work.

This thread isn't to cheer people on, it's to expose these sites and to show other content producers that it's possible to fight back. I'm just getting started and I'll fight tooth and nail.

I can't stop people from stealing my videos. A nutless monkey can steal porn. I want the thieves to know that if they take my work, I'm going to take their work.

We use to have a good system where content producers and traffic providers worked together. Somewhere along the way greedy people thought it was a good idea to cut the producers out of the picture and just steal the content.

The problem is theft isn't a very good long-term business plan.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh That was a good one...

These shitbags are anonymous pricks living in shithole countries and hiding their asses as much as they can. No fuckin way they would show up anywhere or reveal their real names... they know they use pirated scenes and they know that's illegal. I highly doubt they pay taxes from this in the countries they live in. That would be money laundering and porn itself might even be banned in those shitholes.

Every single scumbag like this uses bitcoin for payments and it's not due to convenience... or because of them not trusting the government or the banks, or whoever... They want and need anonymity. Most of those tubes don't even pretend it's user uploaded content - no upload forms on their sites, no replies to emails. Not to mention that every single of them breaks the GDPR.

They are pure criminals and they are afraid of losing investors? Yeah, right... :1orglaugh

If they hide themselves to the point where they can't be contacted in order to respond to a take-down notice then that's on them and the sure fire way to have them respond is to take their site down. They never respond to my lawyers but you can bet they contact the Registrars right away.

BTW, these are willful copyright infringement cases. Either way, they are involved with theft.

If the cops find a bag of coke in your car, it would be hard to fight it in court claiming you didn't put it there and you can't possibly be responsible for things people may put in your car.

This is the stupid shit tube sites claim like they have absolutely no control over their sites and the content that's posted. They say they don't monitor uploaded videos but try uploading a video that's not porn related and see how long it stays up. I know because I tried it. They get removed immediately but it takes 3-4 days for them to respond to a DMCA Take-Down Notice.

They must think we're as stupid as they are.

FIDDY illegal tube apologists!

Nice ChatGPT response! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

"How does the legal system work and can you give a completely non-relatable, non-physical crime 'scenario' as evidence of my point? Please include rape somewhere in there as this is a porn board and, you know...thanks ChatGPT!"

I thought the same! :thumbsup

DMCA was never intended to protect content thieves, it was put in place to protect people who unknowingly committed copyright infringement like if someone produced a video and there was a copyright registered song or movie playing in the background.

Using your scenario, the rapist could claim that he didn't know non-consensual sex was illegal. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

I appreciate your concern but rest assured that all the proper legal procedures were followed and I gladly welcome a counterclaim. I'd love to hear how hundreds of my stolen videos that are clearly identified as being copyright registered and can't be shared ended up on their site and how they and their host ignored dozens of take-down notices.

When a site doesn't respond to take-down notices and they use a host that boast about NOT complying with DMCA then the only other choice is to remove the source completely, which is what I have done and will continue to keep doing.

The Lead Attorney of the firm I use worked for Copyright.gov so he's more than knowledgeable in these matters.

The bottom line is these scabs have been getting away with this for years and just don't give a fuck because they thought they are untouchable. Quite a few tubes have already taken my videos down in fear of losing their domains. If they don't feel that they are doing anything wrong then why would they do that?

If there are any illegal tubes using merchant facilities and accepting credit card then post them here and I'll try to get them shut down. I don't have much time but could deal with perhaps a 50 site batch once a week.

welcome back AK :thumbsup

Will do! I can't remember which one but one of the tubes I shut down was selling "Premium" memberships and a lot of customers were pissed after buying a yearly membership right before the site got shut down. They must have missed the "safe harbor" class about not being able to resell stolen content directly.

I'm sure they will start up another site because these guys can't do anything else for work but I'll shut them down again if they pop up on the radar.

I recommend the following for producers interested in fighting theft:

1) Copyright Register your content! It can be done quickly and easily online and your work is instantly protected. You can go back as far as 3 months after the content has been published. https://www.copyright.gov/registration/

2) Hire a DMCA Take-Down service. They make it very easy to submit links for removal. I did it myself for awhile but it's pain in the ass and the tubes can reject the take-down notice if it's not properly worded. I currently use https://dmcaforce.com/ and they have been working closely with my attorney to provide specific records to help win the lawsuits. They also have a service where they can have links de-listed from Google which will crush the tubes search traffic.

3) If you want to take things to the next level, hire a good copyright attorney. I use https://ilawco.com/ and they are very knowledgeable with copyright law. They have been streamlining their process in order to fast results. They are the firm that took down all the tubes I listed in the first post.

Kingdom come . . .

I also use a service called xVid Autograph (https://autograph.xvid.com/) which enables me to see which user shared my videos.

It works by embedding an invisible watermark on each frame of the video. When a shared video is found on the web, I download it and scan it through their system to find out who the user is. This is currently the most effective tool I use.

Here are some filelockers and sites with offers:
https://1fichier.com/
https://fboom.me/
https://filefox.cc/
https://filejoker.net/login
https://k2s.cc/
https://mixdrop.co/
https://nitroflare.com/
https://rapidgator.net/
https://streamsb.com/
https://tezfiles.com
https://torrentgalaxy.to/
https://uptobox.com/

File Lockers are a pain in the ass but a bit tricky because the big ones comply with DMCA. But, I'm working on something very special for those sites.

Sue one domain registrar and this problem is solved.
No domain, no site.

The Registrars don't want any part of a copyright lawsuit for that exact reason. We initially named the Registrars but they all said they would comply with any judgement and asked to be removed from the complaint. They aren't going to risk contributory infringement over some scumbags. Plus, they don't want to waste a lawyers time each time there's a hearing.

I always thought that registrars don't care as they don't host any content. When I contacted Namecheap about a thief ignoring take-downs, they said they couldn't do anything. Good to know there is a way to get them to act.

Registrars don't want to be bothered with content theft and pretend like they can't do anything when in fact they are one of the main keys to all this. They also don't want to open a can of worms (too late!). Name them in a multi-million dollar copyright lawsuit and see what they can, and can't do.

It never made sense to me how anyone could have illegal sites. If you can sell stolen porn online then you can sell any stolen products online, right? We all know that's not the case.

I started digging into this one night and stumbled across a case where Louis Vuitton sued "everyone" involved in a ring selling their knock offs, including the Registrar to the site selling the products online! Hmmm...

That's when I discovered how important the Registrars were in all of this and found a good copyright lawyer who confirmed my thought process.

Once a Judge has determined that infringement has taken place, the Registrars have to take action otherwise they can be held liable. Now they are asking to be removed from the lawsuits and will gladly comply, which so far they have. I'm happy we can finally work together ;)

In order to have teeth, content producers must register their work. No lawyer or Judge will look at these cases unless the content is registered with the US Copyright Office. It's $65/video but good insurance. Yes it's porn but legally we're afforded the same rights as any other movie or music producer who has their work registered. The law is the law and it can't be ignored.

Content theft will always be a fight because it's "easy" work and attracts lazy people but at least we have some weapons to use. For many of us, taking down one or two specific tubes sites can have a huge effect on sales.

There are registrars like njal.la I doubt that you could knock down domains from this registrar as easily as random registrars like namecheap or namesilo.

Some are more challenging than others. When they don't or won't comply then we contact Google and have the entire sites de-listed from their search.

They will still get their usual visitors but they will lose new traffic which is a slow death for any site. Their business model is to sell garbage and scams to surfers and they need the numbers for that.

Search engines like Google don't want to be named in copyright lawsuits either and won't support thieves once a Judge has determined that infringement has taken place.

DMCA was meant to protect sites like Youtube from potential copyright infringement, it wasn't meant to be a business model for thieves.

However, I was told by a lawyer that content theft (specifically porn) was allowed and encouraged back in the day because they knew it was a good way to grow the internet.

When you're in the business of fucking with people, eventually you'll fuck with the wrong person.

you mean shut down all tubes

Hence. This will never end.
The biggest game of wak a mole ever.

Well, one way to possibly solve that problem is to make a company/organization which would solve such requests for registars as front so they dont have to deal with it directly.
You know, like paypal not doing adult directly, but they can do it over epoch.

(The DMCA was enacted in response to the lack of laws that addressed the nature of technology and how it affects the older U.S. copyright laws. The DMCA is in Title 17 of the United States Code (U.S.C). The Digital Millennium Copyright Act focuses on protecting the register of copyrights.)

Nothing to do with youtube or anything you have argued in this entire thread.

I think you are confusing a lot of things regarding the DMCA laws. The DMCA law is only to protect intellectual property rights. Which offers clauses such as fair usage policy and protection against false DMCA reports focused on silencing criticism or artistic freedom.

Fictional Example: The new Indiana Jones movie is released, The New York Times makes a criticism that the movie is very bad, the worst in history. It provides arguments and also in the article and the review of the film there are some small pieces of the film, it may well be the trailer, or some fragment. (The producers of the movie, not liking the criticism, try to take down the article with the DMCA law.) Error, in this case the fair usage policy applies and the article is protected under the DMCA law. Since it is freedom of communication and in the end it is a review of a commercial product.

Another example: Very large fragments of a work or even the entire work are shared publicly without permission. In this case, the DMCA law also applies and the content can be removed from the methods that you previously said, google takedowns etc...

But remember that basically the entire global media industry is based on the sharing of third party content.

News channels, sports channels, etc... And let's not talk about digital media or social networks, many of the videos you find on social networks like Reddit or Facebook are taken from Tiktok. Do you think that tik tok could take away the domain from Facebook or Reddit?

So the DMCA laws are not to protect youtube. They are to regulate the United States copyright industry and also to safeguard freedom of expression and communication under some of its clauses.

Europe itself has its own copyright laws. Despite the fact that the majority of European companies are common compliants with said American laws.

It all depends on the platform I would think? If a user uploads to TikTok and have agreed to their Terms Of Service then they would expect other parties to use their content now that it is public. This is not the case with stolen adult content and illegal tubes.

But to further your example with TikTok: let's say someone takes an illegal video of a person (without their consent, not age related) and posts it on TikTok which then gets used by third parties. What does the person whose likeness and image have been used without their consent do? Send a DMCA notice everywhere?

So, as always with laws and lawyers, "it depends". Therefore finding an exact comparison to the issues involved with illegal adult tubes will prove difficult. :2 cents:

The DMCA laws need to be updated since they were enacted in the 20th century for fuck's sake.

When you upload to tiktok, you must accept that the content can be shared with third parties through the tools offered by the platform such as embed codes such as facebook or instagram. On Instagram and Facebook I think you can block it from the privacy options. But what is certainly not in the terms of use of the platform is that users completely download the videos from the platform using third-party applications and this content is uploaded again.

Basically if you go to Reddit there are subs like tiktokcringe or instagramreality that are subs with more than 1 million subscribers that all the content is from Tiktok or Instagram.

The most famous sports media outlets download instagram images on a daily basis to create news based on photos or stories completely downloaded from the platforms.

I agree that this was not the case. But the OP seems to be on a DMCA ego trip and says a lot of wrong things about the DMCA laws.

Since they are also there to protect users and media from abuses by some copyright holders.

Should have taken tubes out from the start nearly 2 decades ago.. Now the big ones are too big so they follow all of the rules and pretend to play like a real company, but they should never have gotten as big as they are in the first place.

Should have taken them out while they were playing the DMCA game with 'user accounts'. Those were used by the tubes themselves to get the unrealistic video and view numbers that the owners were trying to get during the growth period. One Pakistani and $500/month is all it took for at least one of the current top 5 tubes lol..
Basically when a video is DMCAd, they have x-time to take it down to comply. During that time, more of the same and similar videos would pop back up under new user accounts over and over. But it was all them, no surfers do that..

Now we have waves of people trying to take down just the "illegal" tubes, when that was really never the problem except maybe for some cam performers.. BP servers are not hard at all to keep up, if one does get shut down, another will pop right back up. They aren't stupid, and they aren't the ones taking so much money out of the industry from the rest of us that 95% of people are gone now and the rest is just cams or dating circle jerking..

But keep it up, it's fun to watch. :upsidedow